RE: Jean looking for a new horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Hi, I know Ann and have been in touch with her. Thanks Jean >This message is from: "Frederick J. (Fred) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Anne Appleby's e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] We bought our filly >Hiejenta from her. We have one mare here that we plan to breed to Misha. > >Fred and Lois Pack >Pack's Peak Stables >Wilkeson, Washington USA >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jodie Gilmore >Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 12:26 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re:Jean looking for a new horse > > >This message is from: Jodie Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Anne Appleby near Olympia (I forget where her new farm is, but my folks >know if anyone is interested) always has a nice Fjord or two for sale. Her >stallions, Misha and (I forget the other stud's name--he's Misha's dad) >are fantastic. > >--- >Jodie Gilmore >Freelance Technical Writer >Washougal, WA > Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Hate to be a pest but where is the nfhr board? Thanks, Jean >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >In a message dated 11/12/98 14:40:51 Pacific Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ><< Pam, who is Hallie Sanders? And where? >> > >Hallie is a lady in North Eastern Washington who has some really nice horses. >We bought Nikki from her last May. She's got a website and it's usually on my >favorite places list, so I could normally send you her web address. But I've >just updated my AOL account, and have yet to transfer my Favorite Places list >over. However, if you look up Stillmeadows Ranch on the NFHR board, you can >get to her website. Also, I "think" I know somebody who is selling a lovely >mare that drives and rides, this person IS on this list, and I'm hoping she'll >talk to you about her. She's a cute mare. And local too. > >Pamela >Knowing between all of us on this list we can come up with a nice horse for >you > Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Re: Mane trimming
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what then of the extremely heavy mane on my Icelandic horse? Must I carefully double-side it to balance the weight and prevent it from twisting his neck? Now that he is down from training upstate and stabled with my Fjord, they are being turned out together for much of the day by the new stable manager. My Fjord's mane is missing an area of white on one side, large enough to remove most of one segment of the zebra-cut. I am wondering if the Icelandic is pulling it out, or if he is rubbing it off under a fence. Unfortunately, I cannot be there during the day to see what is occuring, but he looks a mess, and the Christmas parades are just starting. Merek
RE: Jean looking for a new horse
This message is from: "Frederick J. (Fred) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anne Appleby's e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] We bought our filly Hiejenta from her. We have one mare here that we plan to breed to Misha. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jodie Gilmore Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:Jean looking for a new horse This message is from: Jodie Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anne Appleby near Olympia (I forget where her new farm is, but my folks know if anyone is interested) always has a nice Fjord or two for sale. Her stallions, Misha and (I forget the other stud's name--he's Misha's dad) are fantastic. --- Jodie Gilmore Freelance Technical Writer Washougal, WA
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/12/98 14:40:51 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Pam, who is Hallie Sanders? And where? >> Hallie is a lady in North Eastern Washington who has some really nice horses. We bought Nikki from her last May. She's got a website and it's usually on my favorite places list, so I could normally send you her web address. But I've just updated my AOL account, and have yet to transfer my Favorite Places list over. However, if you look up Stillmeadows Ranch on the NFHR board, you can get to her website. Also, I "think" I know somebody who is selling a lovely mare that drives and rides, this person IS on this list, and I'm hoping she'll talk to you about her. She's a cute mare. And local too. Pamela Knowing between all of us on this list we can come up with a nice horse for you
Re: Keith Brighton's mare Heather, a little Fjord history, and some toot tooting
This message is from: Jodie Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I must add to the toot tooting over Leif. My husband and I knew Brian's dad, Harold (recently deceased, sad to say), and spent Xmas with Harold and Dottie one year in NC. Harold had Leif there, and he was a BEAUTIFUL horse. We miss Harold--although he seemed to be a controversial figure in the "Fjord world", he was a very dear friend of ours, and a wonderful man. Our condolences, Brian!! --- Jodie Gilmore Freelance Technical Writer Washougal, WA
Mane trimming
This message is from: Nancy Lehnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fiona asked why other than tradition does one trim the mane on a Fjord Horse... I have seen first hand what can happen to the horse's neck if it has a heavy mane left to grow long and flowing on one side of the neck. It breaks the muscle down, curving it so that even if the mane were cut in the future relieving the pressure, the neck itself would stay curved to one side! I saw it on a stallion in New Mexico and a mare in Wisconsin. Some folks allow the manes to grow out in the winter and roach them clear down to the neck in the Spring. That takes away the pretty sculpted arch of the mane so unique to the Fjord breed. It takes a little more work, but I keep all of mine trimmed throughout the year and they look so much better all the time. That has been as many as 54 head at one time! Now I'm down to 20 so it seems much easier! I use a non-electric hand shear with a 3 1/2 inch blade. I can do about 3 to 5 manes before I sharpen it with a small steel similar to what we use for kitchen knives. People have inquired about buying a shear for themselves so I have added them for sale on out web site. Anyone interested in purchasing one can find a photo of them on http://www.nancysfjordhorses.com or you can E-mail me. Happy Trails, Nancy, needing to "sculpt/trim" two more manes today!
Gelding
This message is from: Pat Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Everyone, The topic of hot branding made me think of pain and then gelding of our young stallions. Brian, maybe you could answer this one. What is the most humane way to geld a young colt? I lived in France for a year, ten years ago and witnessed the system of two popsicle sticks and elastic bands. I was not very impressed. Several years ago I had a 3 year old Morgan gelded. The vet sedated him enough so that he was quite groggy but was still standing. I held his head with a twitch.(axe handle with a loop of twine) It was a bit of a fight but the job was done. Two years after that, this particular horse knock down his feed bucket. I went into the stall with a piece of 2X4 (wood) to support the feed box. As I went into the stall the horse started to tremble. I took the piece of wood and approached his head. He was quite worried. I let him sniff the board and then rubbed his neck and his back with it. When I got to his hind quarters he panicked. It took me a couple of minuets to figure out what the problem was and then I realized the board was the same size and color of the axe handle. This horse never forgot the day he was gelded. Since then my Vets sedate them enough so that they lie down and there is no fight. I would also like to know what is the best age and what time of year to geld a young colt. I have heard many opinions on this topic. Pat
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) Who was it several months back that was asking for information about one of the early mares in the country (U.S.) named Sjona 2004-A (or maybe Sonja 2004-A)? Were you needing information about that mare's background? I have run across 2 generations of her pedigree, if it's the right horse. Brian Jacobsen ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Pam, who is Hallie Sanders? And where? I followed up on the advertisemnet for dressage trained mare in San Francisco and it is a "three Quarters fjord" He also had just sold for $2500 (he lives in a remote area and had started at 4500 but many calls and no one came ) a "purebred " gelding from Canada who was not registered. Long story. Jean >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >In a message dated 11/12/98 11:32:41 Pacific Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ><< I logged > on here to see who had horses available and would hope that sellers and > buyers could come together. >> > >There's also Hallie Sanders in Washington who (I believe) still has a horse or >two available. Also a couple others have nicely trained mares > >Pamela > Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/12/98 11:32:41 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I logged on here to see who had horses available and would hope that sellers and buyers could come together. >> There's also Hallie Sanders in Washington who (I believe) still has a horse or two available. Also a couple others have nicely trained mares Pamela
Re: Jean looking for a new horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/12/98 12:44:10 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Her >stallions, Misha and (I forget the other stud's name--he's Misha's dad) >are fantastic. >> His name's Gromar, and I agree! They are fantastic! She's got some beautiful horses up there. Pamela
Re: Welcome Jean!!!
This message is from: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Jean, >>Do you mean the Fjords-book? Carol? >Yes, I feel her book approaches a good >standard for fjords. I should still order it... shame on me! >>Also, I give them (winter) carrots or beets. >Saskia, I never thought of giving horses raw beets, only apples. How >unimaginative of me. We do use dried beet pulp here, I have never used it >as yet. I wash the beets, so that there's no earth on them and then I cut them (with a spade) in 4 pieces. Maybe that's not necessary. >Saskia, I give mine rabies shots every year, Potomic fever, and about four >different pneumonia and flue types. Rabies because I have bats who love to >terrify me by flying in the barn aisle during rain storms at night. Ugh We live near a wood where there are foxes, but my former vets said that there was no rabies anymore... maybe I should ask my vets now. I feel it would be safer. >>I worm every four months altho we are worm free and I use ivermectin or >equimectrin. Jean Aha! Yes, I heard good things about that. Saskia
Re: Welcome Jean!!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) > > > >Do you mean the Fjords-book? Carol? Yes, I feel her book approaches a good standard for fjords. > > >>What do you feed your horses in Belgium? . >Also, I give them (winter) carrots or beets. >Saskia, I never thought of giving horses raw beets, only apples. How unimaginative of me. We do use dried beet pulp here, I have never used it as yet. >>What kind of shots do they get >Each year a shot against the flu and tetanus. Every 3 to 4 months I >de-worm them, changing the brand of worm-paste every time. Mostly I use >Furexel, Eqvalan and Horseminth. And you? >Do you have other shots? >Saskia, I give mine rabies shots every year, Potomic fever, and about four different pneumonia and flue types. Rabies because I have bats who love to terrify me by flying in the barn aisle during rain storms at night. Ugh >I worm every four months altho we are worm free and I use ivermectin or equimectrin. Jean > Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Re: Welcome Jean!!!
This message is from: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Jean, >Hi Saskia, my word "top" is a kind one please. Yes, I know. It just reminded me of a long and hard discussion I had last week with a very dear friend and so I thought it important to let you know... well, you understand I hope (I'm a terrible explainer :-)) >When you ask an author, ask >Carol too, about their book look out as you may hear volumes. Do you mean the Fjords-book? Carol? >It is called, >"The Colonel's Daughter". I will try to be brief. I lived in Germany for >three years after the war. Daughter of a handsome Col. I had a fascinating >life as Germany, conquered, struggled to regain itself. Castles, >blackmarket, concentration camps, riots, romance. Enough. Whow! I will look for it! (I am a book-o-holic) >What do you feed your horses in Belgium? Well, we have a really poor pasture at this moment. They have been eating hay all summer and will be eating hay until February or March, when we move to a farm with a splendid, green pasture, to which I will have to adapt them slowly. Sometimes I take them for a walk (on halter + rope) and let them graze. To this farm I am taking also a Fjord I am in love with since February. His name is Flor, he's in a riding school nearby and I would love to have him here now already, but... (the stable is too small, the pasture is a pool of mud and water and he's not used to being outside, he's a horse-in-a-box, but I frequently visit him with carrots (never rode him though! but he's the sweetest horse there, they use him for the most beginning beginners...). Besides the hay, I give Kitty (4 and half years old) a mix of grains, Sybren and Janosch (both 18 months old) get a special mix for yearlings. They can eat as much hay as they want (my vets told me that was good for them). Also, I give them (winter) carrots or beets. >What kind of shots do they get Each year a shot against the flu and tetanus. Every 3 to 4 months I de-worm them, changing the brand of worm-paste every time. Mostly I use Furexel, Eqvalan and Horseminth. And you? Do you have other shots? >and do you find adequate vetting? I'm very happy with my vets now. After having two vets I didn't like at all, now I have a couple of vets (husband and wife) who are both really good vets and very pleasant people. Though I didn't know them when Unna died, they know everything, read the autopsy-report, and told me (over-anxious person now) that I shouldn't hesitate to call them if I felt uneasy about one of the horses, even when I thought I was imagining things (as you can imagine I do). Just knowing that made me very much at ease, so (luckily for them) I have only phoned them when there was really something wrong (Sybren had colics in August) or necessary (gelding little Janosch - poor chappie! but he didn't seem to mind) or promising (feeling if Kit could be pregnant and yes!!!). bye! Saskia
Re:Jean looking for a new horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Thanks Jodie, good neighbor! I have known ann and her great dressage horse Wez for some years. I kept my trakehner in training where she also worked Wez. Quite a treat to see a fjord work at his level. She feels she will be doing Grand Prix on him this year or next. Ann put me in touch with Joy Luper who has Chance for sale. He is a great steady driving horse, big and super friendly. I had him for a week but he needed some polishing re his riding and "whoas". sent him back, but they are excellant people. They are in Olympia Wa 360 456 8271. Jean She also has a young gelding for sale. >This message is from: Jodie Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Anne Appleby near Olympia (I forget where her new farm is, but my folks >know if anyone is interested) always has a nice Fjord or two for sale. Her >stallions, Misha and (I forget the other stud's name--he's Misha's dad) >are fantastic. > >--- >Jodie Gilmore >Freelance Technical Writer >Washougal, WA > > Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Keith Brighton's mare Heather, a little Fjord history, and some toot tooting
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) On Sun, 8 Nov 1998 K.J. Brighton wrote: >Brian: We have not met yet although I hope to in the not to distant future. We do have something in common as I purchased a mare named "Heather I" from your friend, I beleive, Ray Taylor in Carbondale, CO. I bought her bred to their Stud "Danser". I think this mare goes back to the Jacobsen blood lines. Am I right? She is out of Helge by Leif. Would like to know more about her family tree. She is on the small side but moves out very nicely and I hope to put her with my mare, Bliss, for a lead team. Thanks for the interest. Keith <<< I hope we can meet also Keith. Here is more of Heather's family history. Her sire, Leif, is by the imported stallion Dragtind and imported mare Lenda I. Both Dragtind and Lenda received 3rd prize as three year olds in Norway, and would have been eligible for higher prizes had they stayed in that country. But after we (my grandfather Harold) brought them to the States, they were never shown again. Dragtind was the son of Ola Gik, a first prize stallion who had also been awarded first prize for his offspring (designated 1.pr - 1.avk.pr). As Carol Rivoire says, you can learn a lot about a horse by looking at his dam's sire as well. Dragtind's dam was Goma, a first prize mare, who was sired by the famous stallion Valebu, also 1.pr - 1.avk.pr. Dragtind was the new genre of stallion in Norway at that time. Sven Huseby, one of the founders of the NFHR, was over in Norway after Dragtind left, and many breeders that he talked with there told him they were sorry to see Dragtind go. He was born during the time in Norway when they were starting to shift back from the draftier, farming type Fjords, to the more multi-purpose, more agile, smoother-moving Fjords, and Dragtind was one of the first and most promising of the stallions. Dragtind had a very sweet temperament and he was every bit the gentleman. We could lead 2 or 3 small children around on his back and he loved it. I was only 10 when we brought Dragtind to the US, but I and my brothers (one younger, one older) would routinely hand-breed him to the mares and he handled very nicely. We had one particular mare who would not let Grabb breed her, but was in love with Dragtind. I think she thought of Grabb as the Arnold Schwartzenegger of Fjords,while Dragtind was the Mel Gibson. Dragtind produced many nice foals until his death several years ago in New Mexico. One of the nicest foals was our stallion Leif, who looks and moves very much like his sire. Leif's dam, Lenda I, has Lidaren in her background, who was also a 1.pr - 1.avk.pr stallion in Norway. Bear with me now, because I'm going to make a typical breeder remark; We think Leif is one of the best Fjord stallions in the country! I know, I know - every other breeder thinks their stallion is best too. ; ) But actually, a Leif daughter was Grand Ch. Mare at Woodstock '96. And he has had several grandsons who have distinguished themselves; O.H. Alexander was Overall Grand Ch. Fjord at Woodstock '96, and O.H. Kevlar earned the title the following year. (Note - an itsy bitsy teensy weensy bit of credit for Alex and Kevlar also goes to Julie Will and her stallion Erlend, their sire. Hi Julie! ; ) ). So anyhow, one of these years we are going to have to put on an Evaluation here in the Southeast to put our money where our mouth is regarding Leif. His offspring pretty much tell the story though. Keith, we sold Leif as a two year old to Jim Sutton who was in Pennsylvania at that time. Some years later, when Jim was retiring from raising Fjords, we bought Leif back and we now have him on our farm in North Carolina. I believe Helge may have been Jim's mare, or at least was bred to Leif at Jim's farm. Ray Taylor's stallion, a nice son of Hostar, whom you say Heather is bred to, has beautiful deep rich coloring. That sounds like a neat combination and I hope you have a wonderful foal! I know Joel, toot toot! : ) It's getting bad when no one else will toot toot for me so I have to toot toot for myself. Actually, I was toot tooting for Leif, and I'm not even sure he needs the help. He has never been bashful about toot tooting. He's pretty good at it actually. Brian Jacobsen Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re:Jean looking for a new horse
This message is from: Jodie Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anne Appleby near Olympia (I forget where her new farm is, but my folks know if anyone is interested) always has a nice Fjord or two for sale. Her stallions, Misha and (I forget the other stud's name--he's Misha's dad) are fantastic. --- Jodie Gilmore Freelance Technical Writer Washougal, WA
Re: September Minutes - Question
This message is from: Julia Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Inquiry to Julie Will from Wayne Hipsley > >Item #9 September BOD Minutes > To Wayne and other interested parties: The BOD minutes just posted on the list certainly do not contain all the input on any of the subjects. The minutes are hand transcribed during the phone calls, and only the highlights are written out...otherwise I would be writing a small book with each of our 3 to 4 hour meetings! Thank you Wayne for filling in the details around your decision. And yes, the BOD and the evaluation committee are working on remedies for the problems. Julie
Re: Welcome Jean!!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Hi Saskia, my word "top" is a kind one please. When you ask an author, ask Carol too, about their book look out as you may hear volumes. It is called, "The Colonel's Daughter". I will try to be brief. I lived in Germany for three years after the war. Daughter of a handsome Col. I had a fascinating life as Germany, conquered, struggled to regain itself. Castles, blackmarket, concentration camps, riots, romance. Enough. What do you feed your horses in Belgium? What kind of shots do they get and do you find adequate vetting? Jean Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Re: Real Goods
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) >Sorry to be on again but how do I get the Herald? Jean > > Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Thank you Lisa Pederson for the kind remarks about over 70 riders. Since I lost my little Fjord I am quickly becoming old and ancient. The only cure will be finding the right replacement and getting back on a horse. I logged on here to see who had horses available and would hope that sellers and buyers could come together. carol made a very nice boy available to me, and she is certainly honest and knowledgeable. I have yet to decide on which horse. Meantime, I am learning many new things about the fjörd and enjoying this channel. Jean> Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Re: Fjord in Sacramento Bee
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just thought I'd relay an ad I saw in the Sacramento Bee. "Norwegian Fjord pony mare, 8 yeras, very gentle, has been shown English, jumps, 2nd level dressage, excellent for beginner or experienced, 13.3 hand 900 lbs, $4800 530-385-1233. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Education: Learning bloodlines & Evaluations
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol-- Wednesday, Wednesday, November 11, 1998, you wrote: > Not as good as having all breeding stock Evaluated, but the next best > thing to ASSURE quality breeding in North America would be to REQUIRE all > stallions be Evaluated. In this program, if the stallion is not Evaluated, > his offspring would not be registered. However, once Evaluated, even > though his score was low, he could still be used for breeding; that is, if > people brought mares to him, which is unlikely. This system would provide > tremendous education for the stallion owner and mare owners, maintain > freedom of choice for both owners, and immediately begin the process of > assuring quality Fjord breeding in North America. > I personally believe that if a breeder is serious. If he really cares > about breeding, he will take the trouble and spend the money to get his > stallion Evaluated. I think that this is perhaps the most rational suggestion I have heard with regards to making the Evaluations a meaningful process. People may complain about the distances involved in getting their horses to evaluations in the U.S., but somehow the breeders of horses in the various Warmblood registries manage to do it. I know from personal experience, that the American Trakehner Association had only one evaluation each year for a long time. That evaluation was held in Columbus, Ohio, and breeders who were interested in having their stallions licensed managed to make it there. Of course, I think that many people would be quicker to geld less promising colts, than make the effort to travel halfway across the continent; and that would be very good for the breed. If a horse is good enough to keep whole, he is good enough to truck to an evaluation. I think that Carol's suggestion, that the evaluation not be an approval to breed, simply that the availability of results from an evaluation be mandatory for stallions, is worth further discussion. -- Steve McIlree & Cynthia Madden -- Pferd, Keyah, Skipper, Tank -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA If I be once on horse-back, I alight very unwillingly; for it is the seat I like best. --Michel Eyquem de Montaigne(1533-1592)
Re: Turlock Auction/ Sad news
This message is from: Jodie Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm in Washougal, which is 20 miles east of Vancouver, WA (just north of the Columbia). We live in the foothills of the Cascades, at the mouth of the Columbia Gorge. The scenery is wonderful, and I have virutally unlimited (if steep/slippery) riding. I can see the Columbia River from my mailbox, 900 feet below and a couple miles south of us. It's very pretty! --- Jodie Gilmore Freelance Technical Writer Washougal, WA On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, jean gayle wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) > > Hi Jody, I am from SW Washington, also in Aberdeen west of Olympia. I can > not remember if I introduced myself or not just having come on today. At > the risk of boring all again I am 73, female, a psychotherapist in private > practice, author of a book (can you tell Im proud of that!)owner of two > warmbloods and into dressage, collect antique bridle rosettes and museum > type horse bits, and dabble in real estate. Plus I am a water comissioner > etc. Where are you? Jean > > > Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline > >
Re: Thanks & Evaluations
This message is from: Julia Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Dolph, and anyone else who hasn't checked it out...the Breed Standard is posted on the NFHR web site, nfhr.com. There are also links there to many other Fjord sites that have photos of Fjords, including those in Holland and in Norway.
Re: Thanks & Evaluations
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:42 AM 11/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: Dolph Courchaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >I think a good start would be the breed standard and some sort of book on >how evaluations are done. Carol & Wayne, can either of you two offer some >advice on how I or anyone else would learn more about this process? I am >looking forward to seeing and studying the newly approved standard. > The NFHR Approved Breed Standard is on the NFHR web site for all with a browser to see. Point your browser to: http://www.nfhr.com/standards.html It still doesn't have the drawings to go along with the text but it will soon. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks & Evaluations
This message is from: Dolph Courchaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you all for the public & private welcomes! Nancy, Yes Froya(aka Green Briar Dixie) (Sire?? x Dam??) is still being used in therapeutic riding. She is still in WI being shared by 2-3 families with handicapped children. That was the only way the parent's would let Brook leave town. (just kidding) Regarding Evaluations and Stallions; I agree with Carol we should do more to understand & evaluate the quality of Stallions. We bought a weanling stud colt (Holtar x dam??) from Gene Bauer's estate before moving and really wrestled with the thought on whether to geld him or not. He seemed to have the right attitude and correct conformation. (although I am far from an expert). My only fault that I could see was a faint/thin dorsal stripe through the back. Anyway we finally gelded him this fall. Having an easier mechanism to evaluate would have been nice. Although I know there have been some opportunities they have been few and far between. I think Geography has also played a part. I would think if North America was the size of Holland we would have easier time evaluating and that we would end up with less than 45 stallions instead of 200. Although, in this 'land of the free' where everyone has the right to do what they want, I could be wrong. Lastly, I wonder how we get around the fact that 'one mans trash is another man's treasure'. I can remember Gene Bauer having some very definite ideas on what made a good stallion. Not necessarily in line with other views. I would think the same is true with judges/evaluators. We are all human. I think a good start would be the breed standard and some sort of book on how evaluations are done. Carol & Wayne, can either of you two offer some advice on how I or anyone else would learn more about this process? I am looking forward to seeing and studying the newly approved standard. Thanks Dolph Courchaine PS. This list is another great way to spread the knowledge. Thanks Steve for hosting it and thanks everyone else for participating.
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This message is from: Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maybe we should just say "Fillies for sale", or "Horse, cart and harness for sale", etc. If I see the word advertising in my e-mailbox ... I hate junk mail and I'm awfully quick to delete without looking. Even though I know how retrieve things from the trash, if the contents are not clear it I might miss it altogether.:-( Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy, Tennessee, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Dorina ~ NFR Aagot .~:~. Fjords ~ Caper ~ Carly ~ Crickett .~:~. Labradors
Re: September Minutes - Question
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Inquiry to Julie Will from Wayne Hipsley Item #9 September BOD Minutes The fact Gayle Ware reported my desire to no longer participate in the evaluations is accurate. However, I am disappointed the reason was not given. To make such a statement without foundation seems irresponsible. I will presume the minutes have been paraphrased for the Digest and thus did not include the rationale. For the record and readers of the Digest, I decided the evaluation process was not serving the NFHR membership. There were many aspects of the evaluation that were not being addressed, the foremost being the lack of education for the participating members. The details behind this decision range from the lack of organized introductions and orientation to the lack of discussions on the scoring system and what the scores mean to the breeder/participant to complaints that the process was too expensive. Additionally, the general feeling that the evaluations had taken on the image of a horse show goes totally against the my philosophy of an evaluation process. The members paid their fees, the horses are judged, scores are recorded, the score sheets are handed out and everybody goes home with different color ribbons. My feeling was I would rather judge horse shows, because there the participants expect little more than an opportunity to exhibit their horse, and depending upon the quality of the other horses, possibly would be rewarded with a ribbon for their effort. My philosophy for working with breed association members is to provide them with education. The evaluations had evolved to where they were no longer serving this goal. I must add, that since I raised these issues, the Evaluation Committee has been meeting to address these and others. The question is, where does all of this lead? Only time will tell.
Re: Welcome Jean!!!
This message is from: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Jean, good morning! >>Hi Saskia, When you wake up brrr to that first Belgium cold, tell me >where you are in Belgium. I'm near to Leuven, the old university-town. 20 miles from Brussels. (For you this would probably mean "very close to Brussels", but we have totally different ideas about distance here... :-)) >I can not top your inability to walk following >your loss O, I didn't want to boast about that, I'm very sorry. Also it was not because I was physically so weak, but because I was mentally so tensed that I cramped my legs. It was all in the mind! I just wanted to explain in what state I was when I bought Kitty and that that was not a smart thing to have done (though now I'm very happy to have her, so maybe it was smart after all). >but I did go to my eye doctor thinking I had pinkeye disease to be >informed that I had cried so much that I had irritated and inflamed tear >ducts. Arent we something? yes! :-) What is your book about? Saskia
