Re: Stabling preferences/options...
This message is from: Julia Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Geeze, Ingrid ~ I think your Ohio cold has blown up to New York! It was 69 degrees when my alarm went off early this morning, and now it is high 30's! We use a combination of standing stalls (6) box stalls (4) and run-ins (6), with each run-in housing 3 or 4 horses. Our run-ins are in a wagon wheel format around a central barn with hay storage above so I can feed all twenty-some horses from the loft. Each runin has it's own automatic waterer and a paddock for exercise. I am a fan of standing stalls and run-ins, and just have the box stalls for my stallions, foaling or sick horse, or newcomers that have to be isolated. Have a good night! Julie
Re: Stabling method
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Jean Gayle: Please explain this "key hole" thing! Sounds like it is a spot for them to pee? or what? >The best stall I ever used was a key hole clay footing with gravel drain >underneath. The keyhole, about three feet wide and a foot deep was covered >with fine fir sawdust and covered oer with fir shavings. With picking this >would last three weeks for free use and lock up only at meal time. Here in Fairbanks I have a small barn (stable) 12' X 20' built out of 6x6 timbers. I had one big stall, 12 x 14 when my mare foaled and she had free use of the stall with a large corral. At that time there were large spruce trees for shelter and Bjarne, the gelding, had an adjoining corral/paddock but no shed, just trees for shelter.(The trees have since died and have been cut down). I then built a run-in shed off the back of the barn which is about 20 x 14, with their water tank on one end and a feed bunk at the back, and one end as well as the front open, facing south. I now have all four horses in the two paddocks, with the gates open on the dividing fence so they can circle round this center fence, which they like to play over for some reason, then switch sides! the size of the paddaocs are about 100' x 75' for the upper and 120' by 50-80' lower, irregular shaped, on a south facing slope. I reduced the size of the box stall and left the rest of the barn open, but could have 3 tie stalls. Tie Rings are in the walls, but no dividers. I could put all four horse in out of the cold if necessary, with one in the small box stall and the other three tied in the larger area. You may be surprized (or not) to know that I haven't had the horses in the barn at night for several years, except last winter when Adel, the new 2 year old was separated from the others and had the stall and upper part of the corrals. I used shavings for bedding, but she started peeing in the stall and it turned into a four inch thick glacier and started running over into the rest of the barn which has a wood floor. I was going to have a skating rink! I finally got them all together and the gates opened between paddocks. All four now use the run-in shed, and when I put shavings in there, they love to lie down. It's great for about two days,then the mares pee in the shavings and make more ice. If I could convince them not to pee or poop in the shed they would have a very nice place to lie down, but I just can't keep enough shavings in there without them glueing them all down with ice! Here in Fairbanks, in the winter, the horses stay dry and clean with the snow, there is little wind and I am protected by huge white spruce trees also. They love to run around and play and I can't imagine them confined to stalls for 10 to 12 hours! The worst time of year is the wet, rainy fall, and that is the time I wish I had a big barn with four box stalls and a wash stall! (And an in-door arena while we're at it!) They enjoy lying down on the snow in certain areas and seem to keep these fairly clean. In the summer these are also the places they like to lie down, or just stand. They move around the paddocks to stand in the sunniest areas. Next summer I hope to build up the floor of the run-in shed with gravel and dirt and put down rubber mats, which would make it easier to chip out the ice and frozen manure. When it is REALLY cold, like -50 degrees, I bed them down in the shed with grass hay, using hay that is lower quality, bleached, etc. for the bedding, as I am pretty much giving them free choice hay in that kind of cold. When the weather moderates (maybe after a few days to a week) I put less "good " hay out and let them eat up their bedding. sometimes I have used straw bedding, but they will eat it, (it was oat straw). They usually come out of a cold spell fatter then when it began. The only time I put them all in the barn at night was one year when we had a week of -65 degrees. The three horses spent 12 hours in the barn, 12 out, and I cracked a door open for some ventilation.. They were bedded down with straw and shavings with lots of hay and their water buckets were barely starting to freeze in the morning, they kept the barn warm with their body heat. I would go out and feed them in the morning, then a couple hours later, kick them out, close up the barn and pick up the manure and wet spots and fluff up the straw. Kept the little barn tightly closed until I put them in at night and it retained some heat. For the most part I think they are healthier and happier being outside with shelter available. They stay clean and fluffy all winter, then turn into dirty pigs at "break up" when the mud shows up again. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, zero degrees tonight, which is mild for this time of year! ** Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Norway
This message is from: Julia Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A little further info about the drive from Bergen to Nordfjordeid...hang on to your hats! The scenery is breathtaking and so are the roads! Last year, in our rented car, we had the driver side rear view mirror taken off by an oncoming vehicle on a steep mountain road...no where to get out of the way! It's a real "white knuckle" drive in many places. The roads are s narrow, and in many places you drive between rock and air, with no guard rails. Ah but it was all worth it! Julie
Re: Aagot's Tail
This message is from: Paula Steinmetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For anyone concerned about the safety or hair breakage connected with using Mrs. Stewart's Liquid Bluing (a laundry product) on your horse...Mrs. Stewart's Liquid Bluing is the stuff your grandmother (or great grandmother) used on her hair before L'Oreal...the "blue haired" ladies didn't dilute it enough!!
Re: Stabling preferences/options...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've still got a relatively new place, so for now, we've got 12x12 box stalls for the horses, with one 12x24 foaling stall. When springtime rolls along we'll add runs to the stalls. And if we keep on accumulating horses, we'll put a 3 sided shed in one of the smaller pastures. Running outa space, and have a baby due in April. Anyone wanna buy a beautiful quarter horse filly? Pamela
Re: May 1999
This message is from: "Teressa Kandianis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My husband and I will be in Bergen on business from May 5 to May 11 and have to go up to Alesund to visit customers sometime during that period - probably will be May 6 or 7. So given that the shows are about halfway between Bergen and Alesund, we should make an opportunity to do that if the timing is right and other stuff doesn't interfere..meaning business. It would be wonderful to meet some of the fjord listers at that time - so if you plan to set up a rendezvous, please let me know. But, be warned, I'll still have plenty of stupid questions by then, I'm sure. On another note, can anyone make recommendations for a fjord trainer in the western Washington area? I intend to send the yearling to school with a pro so that's he not a complete victim of my ineptness. Thanks, Teressa Kandianis
straw in stalls
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) I am amazed that anyone can use straw around fjörds. I bought straw one time to cover mud when some ladies were coming to use the arena. After putting $12 worth of straw on the path to the arena, it was amusing??? to watch them walk their horses on the straw and themselves mucking through the mud. Later my little fjord impacted on the dry stuff and that cost me $175 for the vet. No more straw on this place. Jean Gayle Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Re: New sites on the German Fjord links page
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Thanks so much for this website, greatly appreciated and a chance to brush on my Deutsch Jean Gayle >This message is from: Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Interessengemeinschaft Fjordpferd (IGF) links page: > >http://home.t-online.de/home/fjordpferde/links.htm > > > Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Stabling method
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) The best stall I ever used was a key hole clay footing with gravel drain underneath. The keyhole, about three feet wide and a foot deep was covered with fine fir sawdust and covered oer with fir shavings. With picking this would last three weeks for free use and lock up only at meal time. Now I have rubber mats as we ran out of good sawdust and shavings are so expensive. The land of great timber and retrained woodsmen/computer and appliance repairmen now. My trakehner will not lie down in the stall anymore and lies in the mud and on the cold ground. the Holstien mare is content with the stall. But she is dirtier as urine and feces gather during the night. So I leave the door open to my indoor arena and turn them out in that field where the footing is great, a product of crushed rock called "screenings" They get a color change from rolling in it, but it offers great secure footing for them. I also use sandblast twice a year to be sure they are not getting a build up of sand. But how we miss those soft clean keyhole stalls. Jean Gayle Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Re: Stabling preferences/options...
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was curious to see the percentage of people, on the List, that use > box stalls, tie-stalls, run-ins...etc...and also why you prefer your > own particular stabling method. [...] What's your favorite bedding? Our equines (3 Fjords, one donkey) have "stalls" that function as run-in sheds. Each stall (12x12 for the Fjords, 8x8 for the donkey) has no outside door, but opens onto a corral (pens of varying sizes, as dictated by the steep ground). They can come and go as they please, year-round. I use no bedding (stalls have rubber mats over either wood or concrete floors)---they are expected to "go to the bathroom" outside, in the corral. For the most part, this eliminates the problem of stains, as they sleep on a relatively clean, dry surface. Well, most of them do---Sleepy (a.k.a. Sloppy) sometimes goes out and lays down on the manure heap, especially if Rom won't let him into the stall they're supposed to share Why? Um, well, that's what the donkey's breeder did, and it worked for us when all we had was the donkey, so we tried it with the Fjords and liked it Note that we keep them on our own place, in coastal California. Stabling is one of those things that is strongly location-dependent, as well as depending on whether you board, vs can build what you want. (Caution---build all barns bigger than you think you'll ever need. Equines accumulate to over-fill the space available!) Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. ---
Re: Viagra Approved for Stallions
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Courtney Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was talking about infertility with a friend of mine who breeds > fjords. She has a mare who persistently fails to get pregnant, despite > having been bred to different stallions repeatedly. [...] she > responded with something I had not considered, but definetly should > have - that infertility is not a good characteristic for the gene > pool, and that the breed was probably better off without offspring > from animals with difficulty reproducing. My old Nansy mare was a "poor breeder"---only managed to have one foal, despite many years of trying, with a variety of stallions, vet procedures, etc. The good news was that this meant she got lots of time and mileage (as in, "Well, everybody's heavily in-foal or nursing but Nansy, so let's take her to XYZ event"), and when her breeder decided to trim down the herd, she was available to become my first horse. When my husband got a case of "cute foal-itis", he tried to talk me into breeding Nansy. As much as I love the old biddy, I figured that Mother Nature saw something there that She didn't want reproduced. Who am I to tell Mother Nature Her business One of the words often used to describe Fjords is "fertile". Think of it as a breed trait that should be bred for. IMHO, if they can't do it by themselves, don't "force" the issue. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. ---
Re: May 1999
This message is from: Julia Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I will be going with my husband Darryl Wolford. I also have 2 friends with Fjords in PA who are a strong "maybe". Thanks, Julie
Eye color
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After reading the posts on eye color, I'll add my 2cents worth. We own Line, the white dun mare that Jean Ernest refers to. Her eyes are not what I would call "golden" - rather they are light brown with large, dark pupils. None of the offspring we have had from her have golden eyes. They all have dark brown eyes. All are brown duns and are from the same brown dun stallion, Rusten. To my knowledge I have not seen any of their offspring (her grandsons and granddaughters) with light colored eyes either. Maybe the light - or golden - eyes come from the stallion Bjutind 1697, who is Stella's sire. The horse that Jean Gayle refers to, Chance, is a Quad-L bred gelding. He is brown dun and has what I would call light brown eyes - not quite as light as Line's, but definitely not dark brown like you usually see in Fjords. I believe his dam is Orianna, if I remember correctly, so his sire may be Rorik rather than Quad'L usual sire, Rusten. I never noticed what color eyes Rorik has, but I think I would have noticed if they were light. Chance's eyes are not really all that startling, unless you are used to a horse with really dark eyes. Mary, in soggy Washington. == Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Stabling preferences/options...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use a box stall that she can run into when she wants. The bedding is straw. When it is freezing rain or cold (just above freezing), windy and rainy I close her in so she can't get out. She doesn't seem to have the good sense to come in out of the weather. Maybe she is fine to be out in all weather, but I have seen her in hypothermia twice. I also sleep better if she's in the barn in bad weather. I leave the barn open in the coldest weather, down to -30 degrees F. She thrives in it. Its just the cold wet wether that's bad. Suzan
Re: Stabling preferences/options...
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > I was curious to see the percentage of people, on the List, that use > box stalls, tie-stalls, run-ins...etc...and also why you prefer your own > particular stabling method. Hi Ingrid, We live in WET western Washington. We use a variety of things to keep our horses under cover. In the summer and early fall we use a "loafing shed" for whichever horses are in the front pasture. When it gets really wet, it is too muddy to have horses out there, so we put them in their winter pens, which have access to box stalls. During the day, and at night when the weather is not too wet and the pens too mucky, we give them free access in and out. The stalls have wood floors and we don't put anything on them until they start to get wet and slippery, or when we start closing the horses in at night. When it gets really mucky and rainy and windy - as it is now - we close the horses in their box stalls at night. We usually bed lightly with sawdust, wood shavings, or a combination of these. Sometimes we use "stemmy" hay, depending on what the hay crop was like in any given year. Our horses get dirty from lying down, no matter what we do with their stalls. Fjords seem to have an affinity for lying in manure. We used to use tie stalls, but there were problems with chewing mangers, pawing constantly because they couldn't quite reach the hay they had thrown on the floor, and generally getting in trouble. For many years we had a lot of young horses, hence the above problems. Now that we have only older horses, we do tie them in once in a while for "attitude adjustment" - usually with hobbles on to prevent pawing. If you try this be sure to give them plenty of hay, which they are prevented from throwing out of the manger (we use hay nets for this). Mary == Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Stabling preferences/options...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Hi" Ingrid: Good question you brought up - I too am interested in this topic. Having just brought two horses to my home, set-up my barn and have been in operation about 4 months my program is underway. I bring my QH and Fjord in every night to a box stall. I do this because I like the process - being close to them twice each day (at least) and I think it helps teach them manners. Many times I think they would prefer to stay outdoors - and I let them stay outside as long as possible when the weather is nice. Have never used tie stalls - and for now leaving them out all the time does not appeal to me. However, we have had THE most wonderful "winter" to date so I have not had to clean, bring-in, bring-out, etc. in below zero weather or howling wind chills - might change my mind when that comes!! - HA!!! Have used pine shavings and straw - honestly I prefer straw because I think it makes a softer bed and for my Fjord, as you said, it does give him something to root around in when he is bored. The manure pile is growing however and not sure just what to do with it - hopefully the farmer next door will help us out - we need a tractor!!! Hey, SANTA??? No kidding about the wash stall - my boarding barn was heated - so this constant mud and manure staining is irritating!! Think I will go visit them and take my guys with for a bath! :) Hope some other folks give their opinions - the caretaking is half the fun so info. to make it easier is welcome.Linda, from the Minneapolis, MN area where it is sunny and in the 30's.
Re: Norwegian harness
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] an elderly Norwegian visitor thought the blinders (blinkers, > winkers) on American harness were bad and should be removed. [...] > Anyone have any opinions, pro or con, about blinders? This gets periodic (and sometimes heated) discussion on the Carriage Driving List. Some horses have to have blinders---just can't cope with the sight of something "chasing" them. Some refuse to work in them---have to be able to see for themselves what is making noise back there. For an animal without strong opinions, blinders do tend to "focus" the animal's attention on the job at hand, rather than letting him sightsee, and maybe spook at things along the road. When driving multiples, it keeps one horse from reacting to the whip about to be used on the other. (Even singles learn to "steer away from" often-inadvertent movements of the whip in the driver's hand.) And, of course, if you're showing, it is traditional to have them, so some judges will mentally mark you down a little for not using them. Personally, I prefer to have the animal trained to go without blinders (so it knows what the cart looks like back there), then add them if needed. > many harness bridles have a strap that runs around the muzzle and is > attached either to the headstall or to the bit rings, something like > an "English" riding bridle. Alternatively, I've seen it as a Y-shaped > strap that runs between the eyes and down to the bit rings. [...] > What is its purpose and are there any particular concerns in > adjusting it to fit the horse's head? > > DeeAnna I think you may be confusing two different pieces of equipment. Most driving bridles have some sort of noseband, especially if there are blinders on the bridle. Otherwise, the rein action (especially WHOA, dammit) tends to allow the bridle cheeks, hence the blinders, to "gape" away from the animal's head, which lets the animal see to the rear briefly. In an animal not trained to go without blinders, such glimpses of the vehicle can be overly exciting. The noseband is also used by some to keep the animal from opening its mouth to evade the bit; others contend that this just makes the animal more tense, and more likely to fight the bit. How tightly you apply it will depend on what effect you want. The Y-shaped strap you've seen is probably an overcheck. It is required in some "breed ring" driving styles, and all but forbidden in pleasure driving circles (a side-check is allowed, but not using a check rein at all is preferred). Such things can be adjusted tightly to artificially "jam" the animal into a "frame" that it's not trained to do properly. On a Fjord, its main use would be as an anti-grazing device. In this case, the proper adjustment of the strap that connects the overcheck to the driving saddle is just tight enough to keep the animal's nose above its knees. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. ---
Stabling preferences/options...
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi folks, I was curious to see the percentage of people, on the List, that use box stalls, tie-stalls, run-ins...etc...and also why you prefer your own particular stabling method. What's your favorite bedding? I use a thin layer of pine shavings (for absorption) with clean wheat straw on top (for boredom). :o) We have both box stalls and tie-stalls here, for extreme weather and nightimes. I happen to like the fact that 4 tie-stalls can be cleaned up in the same amount of time it takes to do one or two boxes. On the other hand, when my fjords lie down in a tie-stall, they get all kinds of stains and manure all over them...yech. Maybe the time saved in cleaning the tie-stall is taken up by cleaning the occupant? IT'S A WASH!hardee -har -har :o) Oh, how lovely it would be to have a hot/cold washrack room, with infrared lights...Santa, are ya listening? :o) Take care all, Ingrid...in "Gee, it sure got cold all of a sudden" Ohioback to reality and winter weather.
New sites on the German Fjord links page
This message is from: Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Interessengemeinschaft Fjordpferd (IGF) links page: http://home.t-online.de/home/fjordpferde/links.htm
Your link has been added!
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May 1999
This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Informal Questionnaire... Who will be / or want to be attending the Fjord Shows in Norway in May 1999? Even if you are just thinking about it, send in a "Maybe?" Thanks, Catherine Lassesen
FYI Fast Ferry Bergen to Maaloy
This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Teressa Kandianis FYI... Another way to get from Bergen to Nordfjordeid is by FAST FERRY. It takes about 4 hours. Bergen to Maaloy, and then a bus from Maaloy to Nordfjordeid. Nordfjordeid is small and we walked from the bus station to the school and to the hotels and to the center where the "statue" is and where they show the horses. The ferry and the bus were luxury in design and have non-smoking sections. Catherine Lassesen HESTEHAVEN - The Horse Garden www.thehorsegarden.com
RE: "Carol's little provocations"
This message is from: "Werner, Kristine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Carole - I for one at least like your "postings".There is nothing wrong IMHO at least, with a little critical thought and provokation. I don`t know why people are so sensitive generally. I`m wondering of that Viagra business in Europe was not a hoax of some sort. The States came out with the drug and the States is the forerunner where research and development are concerned. I can hardly believe that is true. Be that as is may - it seems clear that if a stallion cannot reproduce, then he should be gelded. Nature knows best - this is a cliche because it is true. There are so many stallions out there - why insist on what is obviously not meant to be ? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Montag, 7. Dezember 1998 14:16 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: "Carol's little provocations" > > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) > > > > Good Morning from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia > where > today we woke up to that really warm weather everybody else has had. > > To Cynthia, Yes, my posting about Approval of Viagra for European > stallions was meant to be provocative. The idea was to provoke a > discussion regarding the use of artiificial means (drugs, hormones) to > breed Fjords. The Fjord is a naturual breed, and naturally very strong > reproductively. More so than most. This is a result of the European > Keuring system which stresses reproductive strength. Over the 18 > years > we've been breeding and importing Fjords, I've come to believe that > the > closer I stay to nature, the better the horses are. My "provocative > posting" was meant to promote a discussion along these lines. > > Regards, Carol > > > Carol and Arthur Rivoire > Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II > R.R. 7 Pomquet > Antigonish County > Nova Scotia > B2G 2L4 > 902 386 2304 > http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf >
Re: "Carol's little provocations"
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Good Morning from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia where today we woke up to that really warm weather everybody else has had. To Cynthia, Yes, my posting about Approval of Viagra for European stallions was meant to be provocative. The idea was to provoke a discussion regarding the use of artiificial means (drugs, hormones) to breed Fjords. The Fjord is a naturual breed, and naturally very strong reproductively. More so than most. This is a result of the European Keuring system which stresses reproductive strength. Over the 18 years we've been breeding and importing Fjords, I've come to believe that the closer I stay to nature, the better the horses are. My "provocative posting" was meant to promote a discussion along these lines. Regards, Carol Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf
Re:Smiling
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:41 AM 12/6/98 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Mike >You are taking things far to seriously. I take what people put in my mouth for me very seriously, even if it is only a bunch of words. I prefer to chose my own though thanks. >And, I too am still smiling. Good, me too. Happy Holidays
Re: Red dun grooming
This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a favourite product for white tails - potatoe flour. You still need to shampoo the tail now and then, but lot of stains can be removed with potatoe flour. It's very simple: powder the tail and use your fingers to work the flour in (some tails need to be sprikled with water with a sprinkling bottle). Leave it while you groom the rest of the horse and brush it out. It removes many stains, is cheap and non-toxic. It's also a good way to clean tails in the winter when you might want to avoid to use a lot of water. Regards Anneli in Sweden, where we have had 2 feet of snow in 2 days.
RE: Mixing it up! Caution in breeding animals...
This message is from: "Werner, Kristine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> P - I think you`re right about mixing things up. I want my horse to be flexible. Also - you can get your horse to lift his hooves without leaning on him or even touching him. Of course, this is the goal and you have to work on it. In the beginning, check out what he understands. If you have to "lay hands on" - do so. It helps if you say, "hoof" in the process. With Kai, I started with a crop - tapping the back of his leg and saying "hoof". Now he sees me going into "position" and lifts his leg up automatically. If he is distracted, I ask him to pick up his "hoof" and he does. The less pressure you apply, the better. Make him use his noggen ! > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sonntag, 6. Dezember 1998 21:21 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re:Mixing it up! Caution in breeding animals... > > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In a message dated 98-12-06 05:54:35 EST, you write: > >
