Re: Supplements

1999-07-28 Thread carl and sarah nagel
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jean - thank you for the heads up on the Selenium Salt Blocks.  I have
always assumed they were a "good thing" and my horses don't seem to lick too
much of it.

I will check out the concerns you mentioned with my Vet and some local
fellow Fjord owners.  I appreciate your insights.  I'm very new to this and
find that I learn more and more as time goes on!

Sarah Nagel in Idaho with June and Sonny
-Original Message-
From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: Supplements


>This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I hesitate to provide a salt block that has Selenium, because a couple of
>my horses lick a LOT of salt and you can't control the amount of Selenium
>they get.  The vitamin supplement that I use has selenium in it.  We are
>selenium poor up here in Interior Alaska also, and I buy local hay.
>
>I was talking with someone at the spring tack swap that said their horses
>used to have beautiful manes and tails but for some reason the mane and
>tail of both horse was breaking off and falling out and they didn't know
>why..they had checked for lice and other things. I happened to think to ask
>if they were feeding Selenium.  He said, well, the only thing different was
>that he had gotten selenium salt blocks about 6 months before..  I told him
>to throw them out...maybe that wasn't the cause, but to be safe , get rid
>of them! I never was able to talk to this man again, so don't know what
>happened, but I would be careful about the selenium salt blocks.  Give
>selenium in the supplement, so you can control the amount!
>
>Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska,  enjoying a brief break from the rain, but more
>due tomorrow.
>
> At 09:58 PM 7/28/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>Here in Northern Idaho I provide my horses with a salt/mineral block that
>>contains Selenium.   Also, I feed grain that has selenium added and my
older
>>mare, June, eats senior feed that contains selenium.If your feed
>>contains Selenium, check with your vet before adding any more Selenium to
>>your horses diet (like with a supplement) as you don't want TOO much
>>selenium either.
>>Sarah Nagel in hot (mid-90's) Northern Idaho with June and Sonny
>
>
>Jean Ernest
>Fairbanks, Alaska
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>



Re: Geldings for Sale

1999-07-28 Thread Heithingi
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello everyone from VERY hot, steamy Michigan,

We feel compelled to discuss with all of you some issues/problems we recently 
encountered during a potential Fjord horse buying transaction.  We have since 
changed our minds on this purchase, but feel we must at least warn other 
potential buyers of the possible problems we ran into.

The three older geldings for sale mentioned previously on this list are, from 
our understanding, sound and healthy horses.  The training appears to be more 
centered around kid's camps than otherwise, although they have been used to 
cut cattle and drive.  It needs to be mentioned here this is what we were 
told by the PREVIOUS owner.  The present owners have not owned these horses 
long, a couple of them only for a few days, from what we have gathered.  We 
were able to gain very little VALID information from the present owners.  

If any of you are interested in these horses, we would seriously suggest you 
contact the previous owners to gain a strong and truthful insight into their 
background, training, parentage, etc.  We are by no means saying these horses 
have any physical or mental problems, actually, they sound like good horses 
for the right owners.  The Canadian Registry can assist you in contacting the 
previous owner, even though these horses have never been registered.  The 
Registry has been kind enough to help a great deal in this situation as a 
courtesy.  We have, through a great deal of work, been able to hunt down some 
of the paperwork needed to register these geldings with the NFHR.  Mike May 
has the breeding reports.  Again, the Canadian Registry was very helpful.  
The present owners were unwilling to go through the trouble of registration.  
 

It also needs to be said that even though the breeding reports have been 
located through the work of the previous owner, Canadian Registry, and 
ourselves, it may be difficult, without the previous owner physically 
identifying these horses, to know these are indeed the same horses as being 
protrayed through the available pedigrees.  We have no doubt the previous 
owner would be kind enough to identify them for any who would like to buy 
these geldings if registration is not of great concern.  

We would also strongly suggest to not send any money prior to actually 
picking up these horses.  

Sincerely, 

Lynda and Dan
Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm



Web Page for Shota Fjords

1999-07-28 Thread misha nogha
This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi guys, Put up a simple web page for Shota Fjords. Appreciate any
comments! Please check it out at 

http://www.eoni.com/~mishamez

Thanks Misha



Re: Supplements

1999-07-28 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I hesitate to provide a salt block that has Selenium, because a couple of
my horses lick a LOT of salt and you can't control the amount of Selenium
they get.  The vitamin supplement that I use has selenium in it.  We are
selenium poor up here in Interior Alaska also, and I buy local hay.

I was talking with someone at the spring tack swap that said their horses
used to have beautiful manes and tails but for some reason the mane and
tail of both horse was breaking off and falling out and they didn't know
why..they had checked for lice and other things. I happened to think to ask
if they were feeding Selenium.  He said, well, the only thing different was
that he had gotten selenium salt blocks about 6 months before..  I told him
to throw them out...maybe that wasn't the cause, but to be safe , get rid
of them! I never was able to talk to this man again, so don't know what
happened, but I would be careful about the selenium salt blocks.  Give
selenium in the supplement, so you can control the amount!

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska,  enjoying a brief break from the rain, but more
due tomorrow.

 At 09:58 PM 7/28/99 -0700, you wrote:
>This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Here in Northern Idaho I provide my horses with a salt/mineral block that
>contains Selenium.   Also, I feed grain that has selenium added and my older
>mare, June, eats senior feed that contains selenium.If your feed
>contains Selenium, check with your vet before adding any more Selenium to
>your horses diet (like with a supplement) as you don't want TOO much
>selenium either.
>Sarah Nagel in hot (mid-90's) Northern Idaho with June and Sonny


Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Supplements

1999-07-28 Thread carl and sarah nagel
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here in Northern Idaho I provide my horses with a salt/mineral block that
contains Selenium.   Also, I feed grain that has selenium added and my older
mare, June, eats senior feed that contains selenium.If your feed
contains Selenium, check with your vet before adding any more Selenium to
your horses diet (like with a supplement) as you don't want TOO much
selenium either.

Sarah Nagel in hot (mid-90's) Northern Idaho with June and Sonny

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: Supplements


>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>This is kind of a question for the Northwest Fjord owners, but do any of
you
>feed your Fjords a selenium supplement?  Many of the horses at my barn are
on
>a selenium supplement as was my warmblood.  Just wondering if I should plan
>on feeding the selenium or if the Fjords tend not to have a problem with it
>even though the Northwest grown hay is either grossly deficient or lacking
>that mineral.
>
>Thanks -- Tami (& Soroya)
>



Now we're getting down to the nitty-gritty.

1999-07-28 Thread FJORDFUN
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This is from Alex Wind, in Shawsville, VA, where it rained heavily 
for at least an hour today! Hubba-hubba!
It's good to hear you all comparing horse aroma by breed, and
debating the best ways to get pine tar out of the coat. It makes me feel
that I'm not alone in being involved on all sorts of esthetic and sensual
levels with my horses. Even when I was a teenager, I used to comb
my black Thorobred's tail over my shoulder and pretend it was my hair.
(it was the age of Buffy Ste. Marie, Cher, and Mary of P, P & M; and
long and straight was in; and I was cursed with a naturally curly, short 
doo!) 
Here's a question for you: what are the parameters for male sheath
goo? My Fjord gelding has the consistency of used engine grease on
his sheath. It is so copious that it even gets on his inner thighs. The 
other geldings (POA, Appy, and Welsh cross) all have dry, waxy, flaky
stuff which peals or brushes off fairly easily, especially aided by a little
Vaseline, or bag balm. Gillyn, the Fjord, is a one-horse grease pit. I feel
that baby wipes would come in handy with him. By the way, the suggestion
of alcohol was good, and a milder form of alcohol is mouthwash, in case
you don't have time to shampoo afterward. That works on his inner legs,
but probably wouldn't be too good to apply directly to the sheath. Or perhaps
it would be just the ticket. How strong are the washes that get applied to
breeding stallions to disinfect before and after breeding?
Thanks for the tip about WD-40 for de-tangling. I got a complex 
since watching the Norwegian Kurrings video: all those tails were so 
immaculately free-flowing! I would have to spend an hour a day shampooing
and cream rinsing, and picking out, in order to achieve those effects!
And that's just for two Fjords. They have such thick tails and they tend to
cord up and get stained red, by the red mud around here. Thank goodness
we aren't on parade every day, most of the time it's just utility and 
necessity
down on the farm.
Hope I didn't gross anybody out. Any helpful tips will be appreciated.
Cheers,
Alex



Re: Supplements

1999-07-28 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I feed Northwest supplement about every other day and there is also selenium
in the grain.  Here in cold overcast Washington.
Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: Supplements


>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>This is kind of a question for the Northwest Fjord owners, but do any of
you
>feed your Fjords a selenium supplement?  Many of the horses at my barn are
on
>a selenium supplement as was my warmblood.  Just wondering if I should plan
>on feeding the selenium or if the Fjords tend not to have a problem with it
>even though the Northwest grown hay is either grossly deficient or lacking
>that mineral.
>
>Thanks -- Tami (& Soroya)
>



Re: pine tree sap removal...

1999-07-28 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Right on Jean, only when they can't reach it does the peanut butter get to
work.  Probably would be the same with a Fjord!


Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
-Original Message-
From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: pine tree sap removal...


>This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Jean,
>
>Do you rub the peanut butter into the treesap and fur and then let the dog
>lick it out? :)  Pretty clever!
>
>Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska   Sun is out and blue sky, finally!  Hope it
lasts!
>At 10:03 PM 7/27/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>I also have removed, with help, tree sap from my dogs fur with peanut
>>butter.  It liquefies also
>>



crossbreeding, NOTHING TO DISCUSS

1999-07-28 Thread Laurie Pittman
This message is from: "Laurie Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi List,

 I've been thinking about this ever since we were told that there was
NOTHING TO DISCUSS concerning crossbreeding. First of all, I'll say again
that I totally agree with no crossbreeding fjords. However, I do not agree
that we should not even discuss it. Remember folks, that there all always
new people joining the list, and this topic is going to keep coming up. If
you'll remember the last time it came up, it was about someone who *might*
be thinking about crossing a fjord and a zebra. By the time the discussion
ran it's course, I'm sure that these people knew all kinds of reasons why
they shouldn't do it, as well as the consequences of such a breeding (losing
their fjords registration). Every time that this topic had come up (that I
know of), it has revolved around why we should not allow crossbreeding. It
seems to me that this would help educate the people that are new to the
breed and might wonder about this. Isn't that what we want to do?

JMO
Laurie, in NW Washington



RE: Supplements

1999-07-28 Thread Tehoward9
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is kind of a question for the Northwest Fjord owners, but do any of you 
feed your Fjords a selenium supplement?  Many of the horses at my barn are on 
a selenium supplement as was my warmblood.  Just wondering if I should plan 
on feeding the selenium or if the Fjords tend not to have a problem with it 
even though the Northwest grown hay is either grossly deficient or lacking 
that mineral.

Thanks -- Tami (& Soroya)



Re: pine tree sap removal...

1999-07-28 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ingrid Ivic wrote:
> 
> This message is from: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > but it has been pine sap..very dark brown sticky, tarry substance
> > that she gets on her coat...next to impossible to get off short of
> > cutting it off. Do you have pine trees on your property?
> > Carolyn
> >
>   Hi Carolyn,
> You don't have to cut any of your fjord's coat off to remove the
> pine tar. I know all about this sticky mess on our fjords coats, because
> about an acre of our turnout area is studded with pines. Our farm used
> to be a tree nursery. The pines give them shade and keep some of the
> bugs away, but our little darlings love to rub against the trees and get
> "sappy".
> Here's what you do...cover the tarry areas with a good bit of
> vaseline and wait awhile (about an hour or so in warm weather), wipe the
> resulting "goo" away, then wash it all off with a mild shampoo. The
> combination of vaseline and their body heat sort of melts the stuff
> off...it becomes liquified enough to scrape away. Yeah, they can be a
> little bit greasy afterwards (just shampoo a second time), but its
> better than the tar!
Thanks for the tip on the pine sap removal!  No more chunks out of
Daisy's coat!



Re: Pricey Fjords?

1999-07-28 Thread griet vandenbroucke
This message is from: "griet vandenbroucke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello,
yes that's what I mean  A Fjord isn't expensive comparing to other horses.
Of course it's in general but for a good Fjord mare (registrated) it's about
45.000-50.000 belgian francs.
One dollar (us) is about 38-40 belgian francs so...; to me thats a
lot of differences.
i saw somewhere on the internet that the price for a breeding is about
1.000us dollar so here thats the price of a whole Fjord mare.( For my mare I
paid 4.000 francs /100 us dollar and the stallion is placed second in
belgium from all the approved stallions)
A colt for sale is about 13.000-15.000 belgian francs.
A gelding about 20.000 fr.

Comparing. A Belgian warmblood horse is about 500.000 fr.

So to me a Fjord is not that expensive. Lucky I am otherwise I could not
keep those furry adorable creatures.
Waauw I love them.

BTW Askeladden will be 3 months tomorrow. That goes quickly.

Lot's of Fjording  from sunny an hot Belgium (not so hot like th US)
Griet
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Cheryl Beillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Datum: woensdag 28 juli 1999 14:05
Onderwerp: Re: Pricey Fjords?


>This message is from: "Cheryl Beillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Hello Griet .. Just wondered whether you meant that Fjords are not
expensive
>in Belgium (compared to other breeds?) or that you think $5-6,000 US is not
>expensive, as a price for a Fjord or other breed?.
>
>



Brian

1999-07-28 Thread griet vandenbroucke
This message is from: "griet vandenbroucke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

brian,
Thanks for your answer,
When I first saw her so stiff al over I thought she was.. I don't know,
but I thought she would have died. So bad she was. I think it was to
painfull to stand on her legs but to hard to sit down.
Now she is better, but yes Monday ilness could be.
But when I feed her in the morning I don't always know if I will be able to
go riding  that day so I give her always the same portion, (not in winter),
so I dn't know if I give her too much grain. Because we work a lot with our
horses. And they aren't to fat so I think we're doing fine??? (I hope)

Thank a lot brian

Lot's of Fjordings from Belgium.



[no subject]

1999-07-28 Thread misha nogha
This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well I know we banged the tar weed issue to death. But I appreciate it
because I went and checked and had it here too. It's hot here too, another
day into the 100's. Since we're in the foothills fo the Blue Mountains,
it's not that usual here. But we had a very cold very dry spring and now a
very hot very dry summer. Makes you wonder who is getting all the rain
we're not. Actually, I like it when people on the list talk about weather.
I am a weather observer for NOAA, and you know, it's kinda hard to get a
lot of good info on weather. And it all effects us so much. I waited so
long to get some good work done with the horses, but we are all just
sweating heavily standing in place and so we all gave each other knowing
looks and went to our respective shady spots. Yesterday I had a scare when
I went to bring the mares off the pasture. One of the foals didn't come.
The mares all trotted to the dry lot without a word and I was panicked.
Finally found the baby sleeping in the lower part of the 8 acre pasture,
but not without covering a lot of ground at top speed first. Fortunately,
with imprinting, he thinks I am the 'boss mare'so he just followed me back
to the dry lot at a trot. I berated his mom for abandoning him but she
looked at me as if to say, "Why, you were watching him?" Gad! I hand held a
bucket of water for him to drink and then washed him down with another
bucket just to make sure he wasn't suffering from heat stress. He seemed
perky and lively but I wasn't taking any chances in 100 degrees. So I am
bringing in the herd earlier as long as this hot spell lasts. I don't think
it is a great idea for foals to be sleeping in the sun in this kind of heat
and the dry lot has shade. Plus I can go out and water them down if I think
they are getting too hot. Just wanted to share that with you guys who are
all dealing with the heat. I guess, not having air conditioning, I am real
concious of the heat factor. Lastly, on Fjord odor, I noticed it was
different the first time I got with them. Some people are more sensitive to
odors and I am one of them. Anyway, I thought they kind of smelled like oak
tanned leather instead of regular acrid horse smell. I like it. My husband
thinks when horses are sweaty they smell like hot dogs. He said it made him
suspicious of hot dogs and he hasn't eaten any in years. Ha. Good luck for
those looking for Fjords to buy. I have some dandies, but of course, they
are babies. I can commiserate at the expense of well trained ones. I was
all set to sell my well broke gelding and pick up a fair broke mare, but
the fair broke mares are going for a LOT more than I am asking for the well
broke gelding. So I am putting his sale on hold. Training takes a lot of
time and effort and money. So I guess you are just going to have to expect
to pay a lot for that kind of horse. Keep Cool Fjord folks. Thanks every
one for writing to the list. It sure is fun to read. Misha 



Re: Scented Horses

1999-07-28 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 11:32 PM 7/27/99 -, you wrote:
>This message is from: "B. Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Ha!
>Now this is interesting. I like the smell of horses too, but can't say I'd
>noticed different "flavors." I'll have to broaden my research and get my
>nose on more horses and check it out!

Nope - there are flavors.  It's the breath that is the biggy.  Gunthar,
though, has the perfect horsey smell - the QH's I have do not.  I think it
is related to health and digestion somehow.  The horse I had as a child (a
polo pony of uncertain parentage) smelled the same as Gunthar.
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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Re: Silver Dapple and Grey Foals (long)

1999-07-28 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 10:02 PM 7/23/99 -0400, you wrote:


Anyone have the facts on the Fjord gray gene? Julie mentioned an article on
the subject--is it on the NFHR web page?


Yes it is.  Here is a link to it:

http://www.nfhr.com/newsinfo.html#Documents

Scroll down a bit and you will see it.  It is in 2 parts and you will need 
the Adode Acrobat reader to be able to view it.  If you don't have it you 
can download it for free right from the same page.


Mike

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Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #124

1999-07-28 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 09:25 AM 7/23/99 -0400, you wrote:

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Our committee has recently completed updating the Eval. Handbook.  I
submitted the changes to Mike May a short time ago, but I have not looked to
see whether he has yet made the changes officially.


Nope they haven't been done yet.  Been real busy with other things and 
since there hasn't been any evals scheduled I didn't see it as a real priority.


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Re: the Roster and Sacremento

1999-07-28 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 01:12 PM 7/19/99 -0600, you wrote:

This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I just had a request from the Sacremento area wanting a Fjord for sale and
I went to the directory roster and there are so many listings there under
California!

Mike, has there been any thought on a handier system for accessing a
particular area like maybe designating which are breeders in the state
listings? As it is each name has to be looked up and very time consuming.


I guess I could make the breeders bold in the state listing too.  That 
Roster is a real job to get just right each year.  One of these days it is 
going to have to change drastically.  It is just getting to hard to manage 
the way it is now.



Maybe this has already been done on the net and I just haven't happened to
come across it, tell me if it has or forward it to me and I'll pass it on.


No it isn't on the net.  The only thing there is the Farm Directory ad's.

Mike


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ENOUGH ALREADY

1999-07-28 Thread */-999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
This message is from: 
*/-9 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jean Ernest wrote:
> 
> This message is from: Jean Ernest
> 
> Jean in rainy Fairbanks, Alaska, where the sun peeks out one minute, and
> it's pouring the next, or a steady drizzle.  ENOUGH ALREADY
> Jean Ernest
> Fairbanks, Alaska
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Jean,  Here in Rhode Island we are having a HEAT WAVE and NO RAIN! 
The lawns are brown, all the flowers in the window boxes are dead, the
garden is a loss, and our stream is almost dry!  So, send some Native
magic our way with RAIN!  AND. . . worst of all, it's TOO hot to ride! 
Carol Tacey
West Kingston
Rhode Island



Horsey smell

1999-07-28 Thread */-999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Ruthie,
> 
> What fun reading your comments on smell.  After you brought it up, I pondered
> this for only a few seconds and decided I have a definite preference for that
> wonderful sweet horse smell and it's with my Quarter Horse.  It's not that my
> Fjord doesn't smell good, it's just different, not quite as aromic (is that a
> word?!).
> 
Horsey Smells - I love them - However the VERY WORST is wet horse pads
left in the pick up on a hot day.  Carol - Rhode Island



Re: crossbreeding, NOTHING TO DISCUSS!

1999-07-28 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 02:03 PM 7/19/99 -0400, you wrote:

This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> "In the interest of protecting the genetic purity and the highest standards
> of the Fjord horse, we will withdraw from the Norwegian Fjord Horse
> Registry any mare or stallion that is used for crossbreeding with another
> breed. 

Perhaps this rule should say:

... with another breed *or species*

(such as zebra or donkey)



I think I like that idea Lori.  I will have it added to the BOD's agenda 
for the next meeting.


Thanks for the idea.

Mike


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Re: King Haakon

1999-07-28 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 09:18 PM 7/17/99 -0400, you wrote:

This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Just a week or so ago emailed Mike May about this same stallion, they are the
same. The mare I talked to you about breeding to Obelisk is a King Haakon
grandaughter. Her sire was Ole, another of King Haakon's sons, also a
breeding stallion was Nils. Ole and Nils had been owned by Cliff Baltzley
here in New Mexico. If I remember rightly King Haakon came to NM from
Florida. Mike May could confim this.


No King Haakon was bred in Norway & foaled in Colorado by Harold Jacobsen 
who imported the mare HEIDI  N-14150  N-R-117-M, King's dam.  He was sold 
to Cliff Baltzley and then to Dr. John Wilson in NM where he still is as 
far as I know.  I don't think he was ever in FL.


Mike

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Re: Fjords or Fords

1999-07-28 Thread Lori Albrough
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Jean Ernest wrote:
> I often get questions...many people think it refers to the
> Sea: Fiords here in Alaska, another thought it said "forty' (FJORD3) and

Haha. Funny how people don't "see" what they're not used to seeing. Our
licence plate is "FJORDS", and I had someone ask me "What's a J FORD?"

Lori



Re: King Haakon

1999-07-28 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 08:02 AM 7/17/99 -0600, you wrote:

This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Does anyone know about King Haakon?  I have copies of NFHR registration
papers for a mare and a gelding, both are sired by King Haakon
N-V-014-S.  A friend of mine has a Fjord Breeders of America registered
mare which has King Haaken FBA-1046 as a great grandsire.  Does anyone
know if both names are for the same horse?


Well here is the NFHR's King Haakon's pedigree if that helps you any:

KING HAAKON  N-V-014-S
Foaled May 17, 1982
Bred by IVAR DUAAS,  BADALEN


GRAMANN  N-1730
JOLSTRA GRAEN  N-1780
GRAA  N-13455
EIKER-GRAEN  N-1861
ROGAR  N-1643
 LOTTE  N-13311
VESLA  N-13169

BJUTIND  N-1697
FRISK  N-1784
FIA  N-12883
HEIDI  N-14150 N-R-117-M
HALLING  N-1720
HEGE  N-13595
BRUSI  f.1959




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Re: A mystery

1999-07-28 Thread sloma
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Not to get totally off the 'horse track' here, but I felt compelled to respond. 
  All that was said is correct, with one exception.  There is one type of 
puffball, called the poison pigskin puffball, that IS poisonous.   It is quite 
harder to the touch than other puffballs, and has a very distinctive texture on 
the outside.  Hard to describe in words, but has sort of raised bumps all over 
it with a dark dot at the center of each bump.   Also, if you cut it open, you 
will see a thin ring of white around the outside, and some discoloration 
ranging from very pale yellow to quite dark throughout the rest of the 
puffball.   It really is quite distinct from the edible puffballs.  Any field 
identification guide will provide plenty of description and a picture to help 
distinguish this one inedible puffball.  I eat puffballs when I can find them 
while they're still white and fleshy, not the 'smoke bomb' that I usually come 
across.   So enjoy!

Candy at Laughing Crow Farm in Binghamton, NY,  where rain is a distant memory






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"Denise Delgado" wrote

dear meredith,  those sound like "puffballs."  they show up here in the
moister weather of fall and spring.  they are a sort of fungus, like
mushrooms and poisonous.

 It might interest some of the more adventuresome on the list
to know that puffballs are not only not poisonous, they are actually
quite good to eat. Not, of course when they have gotten to the point
of being all full of brown "gooey stuff". Unless we're talking about
different fungi, puffballs spores, while they are brown to black, and
fill the skin of the puffball, are actually dry. Old timers in
Vermont told me that when they are at this spore bearing stage they
can be used to staunch bleeding in an emergency (if you're out in a
field and need a compress) for man or beast.
 Basically, the flesh of any puffball, when it is pure white,
can be thickly  sliced (1/2 inch thick) and sauteed lightly in a
little garlic olive oil until brown. Quite good.
 One needs just to be sure it is a puffball, rather than a white
mushroom in a "button" stage, since the latter ARE POISONOUS. Unlike
puffballs which are solid, mushrooms have gills on the underside of
the cap.



Re: Sunny side up

1999-07-28 Thread Cheryl Beillard
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Just thought I'd let you know I have a fjord who eats eggs!  We were
cleaning out Soleia's old stall, having put her in another which she shares
with a broody Muscovy duck (nest in corner, water bowl on side, occasionally
gets a little "wet") .. Having found about a dozen more duck eggs, we placed
them in her old grain bin, while cleaning the stall .. Of course, pushy
thing that she is, and having noted the activity around her feed bin, the
minute we turned our backs, she shoved her way back in and her nose into the
bin .. downed about 6 (old, yuk) eggs in 30 seconds flat.  These horses will
eat anything!  Then yesterday afternoon, I found her having a nose to beak
dispute with the mother duck in the corner of her stall, after weeks of
living together companionably .. the duck was very agitated, squeaking
loudly and drilling her on the muzzle when she dared to get too close .. I
suspect Soleia has figured out theres' eggs in them thar nests .. and I've
had to lock the duck in the stall, by herself.  I can add this story to the
one about how she ate all the dried corn off  the wreath on our front door
last winter, while waiting for me to open it (long story) Bet there are any
number of weird stories about things Fjords have eaten (or tried to eat!).



Re: Pricey Fjords?

1999-07-28 Thread Cheryl Beillard
This message is from: "Cheryl Beillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Griet .. Just wondered whether you meant that Fjords are not expensive
in Belgium (compared to other breeds?) or that you think $5-6,000 US is not
expensive, as a price for a Fjord or other breed?.



Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #130

1999-07-28 Thread HapDayBMF
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Hello,
Got a few things to reply to so here goes
My gelding, who just truned 5 yrs. and is of "good" breedingJUST got 
stripes on his legs THIS year.
I'm sure the clover is the cause of the drooling. my husband said we have 
A LOT of clover this year, for some reason.  Because the field was just mowed 
when I let them out thereI didn't even think about that.

Thanks,
Aimee



pine tree sap removal

1999-07-28 Thread Dave McWethy
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For removing pine sap we  use alcohol.  Works great.



Dapples

1999-07-28 Thread walker
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After reading several comments about dappled coloring in fjords I
thought I'd pass this along:

Two summers ago, I took to leaving Brit in the yard to eat grass for
several hours a day since her pen had been gleaned of anything
resembling grass!  She never wandered very far...after a week or so, I
noticed a faint dappling of her brown dun coat and when I talked to my
vet - he asked if there was much clover in the grass which can cause
this effect in horses coats...there was lots of it.  By the winter, the
spots were gone and since she has a different pasture area this year
(not my yard grass!) her coat is perfectly dun again!!! Thought this
might help - it may be just a temporary reaction.

Regards...Carol Walker in Franconia, NH where I have a new barn which
Brit and Nelson love as much as I do!!!