maybe, is it possible????????
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, while so many are describing the ecstasy of the views and wonderful experiences on their beauties, I have a report on the unfriendly one. I met Betsy at Libby and told her I was pretty sure I wanted to sell Gunnar as his sides are dead and I want dressage, not trail riding. I had even lost interest in riding with his attitude. Hm wish I could remember who said they did not like the Parelli (sp) method because a draft horse had a tendency to push back when given a leg pressure and that they use a tickle until the horse moves away from it. I got to thinking that this boy has had some pretty bad experiences and has learned to passively resist, ie a slow walk etc. but he will stop with the slightest cue. This has to mean he is truly sensitive but resisting in most areas. I had a devil of a time getting him to back up, but then stayed with the a soft request for a leg yield on the wall and eventually got it. What a great feeling of progress as minimal as it is. I now feel interested in seeing if I can bring this little fellow around. He is still stand offish but allowing more hugs and petting. My gosh we may make it yet. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Phew, the showcase of breeds is over!
This message is from: Mike and Casey Rogillio [EMAIL PROTECTED] And we didn't disgrace the good names of Fjords everywhere, I don't think! We also got to meet Meredith and Steve Sessoms from the list, which was great. They did a terrific job of holding my hand and making sure I breathed on regular occasions. It was good to meet someone from this list! Unfortunately for me, they had to leave before it was our turn in the arena. My husband had gotten tired of my palpitations I think, and gone to the stands to be bored there. Decidedly non-horsey, as I've shared before. Either that, or he did it to avoid just killing me in front of so many witnesses! But we survived, and as I said didn't disgrace ourselves in the ring. I think I heard one word in 20 of the write-up, was extremely glad to get out of the arena when the time came! I think Tyr was too. He certainly portrayed an alert Fjord out there. It was the first time he'd had people clap for him, so he got a bit snorty at the beginning and end. My husband said we were the only ones that got a clap at beginning and end of our stint. I think I was suffering nerve-induced deafness then so I wouldn't know. I can scarcely wait to see what the picture he took looks like! LOLOL, big eyes on both of us I'm sure. But Tyr was definitely a hit. Many people came by to look at him in the stall, and when we were waiting for our turn they oohed and aahed and petted. He did very well, I think. I was scared he'd get nervous and kick but nothing happened. I didn't hand out so very many brochures or breeder's lists, but that's ok, I'll keep them handy for future fun shows and such. One poor woman wanted to talk to me about Tyr, I don't know her name, but she wanted information for a write-up of some sort. This was immediately pre-arena, so I was at my very worst. My husband hustled us out of there like we had a baby on the way or something at the end, so I never did personally hand any info to her, hope she grabbed a brochure and breeder's list like I asked her to. Thank you all for the info you shared, I did talk anecdotal-type things to people that stopped by the stall, so between them all, they know everything a Fjord has been used for that I knew. I'm glad it's over and have a whole new respect for the people that represents breeds of any kind at Equitana or Equine Affair or other types of breed things. My hat is off to all of you that work these sorts of things. Thanks again for all your assistance - Casey and Tyr (who could scarcely wait to roll in the mud last night!)
Driving questions
This message is from: Laurie Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Danny, I know that there are a number of people here that can answer questions about driving for you. Another place would be the Carriage Driving List. Lots of great people there too. Here's the URL, http://www.trot-on.com/cd-l/ . Laurie
Re: Vacationing with horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Marsha!! I have springs on my cart so that might help the ride a bit?? Will check-out those wheels right away. Linda
Re: Driving
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Danny and welcome to the list. I am sure someone here who knows driving will give you some pointers to help you not feel like a beginner. Of course, I think being a beginner is a good way to start anything. People who do not ask questions often miss a lot. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: Vacationing with horses
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on our drive the tire on my cart went flat [...] need to get a different cart - something heavier duty than bicycle wheels -- any suggestions?? I do not want pretty -- functional and rugged would be better. I'd suggest that you contact Paul Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://miltoncarriageworks.com He makes metal carriages that are tough and functional; several folks in our driving club have them, and really like them. He also makes metal carriage-style wheels designed to replace bicycle wheels on a pipe cart. Folks on the Carriage Driving List speak highly of these wheels. The only drawback is that most pipe carts are designed such that the flex in the bicycle tires and spoked wheels is the only thing that softens the ride at all. With more rigid wheels, the ride becomes really awful! When you talk to him, mention Fjords. He used to own the pair that Brigid-in-CA now has. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. ---
Driving
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Could someone please enlighten me on driving Fjords? A friend has promised me a ride on her mare - I need to sound educated! I know absolutely nothing about it. I'd also like to drive my Fjord eventually so I'd really like to know about the basics of it, you get the idea. Thanks, Danny
Re: The 'kvittRe: White Fjords
This message is from: Sarah Vogeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary; The cremello coat color is a result of two contributing dilute genes, therefore it cannot be further diluted. If you breed two cremellos, you have a 100% chance of producing a cremello offspring. I understand that the cremello Fjord colt pictured on the NFHR site has been gelded. I'm sure he's quite beautiful! I'd love to see how he looks when he matures; I'm a big fan of creme colored horses! Not for breeding for the color, but the beauty of the color itself. Sarah Vogeley New Forest Farm Charlottesville, Virginia -- From: Mary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The 'kvittRe: White Fjords Date: Mon, Oct 11, 1999, 1:26 AM The 'kvitt' Fjord looks exactly like a cremello color in other breeds. It is not possible to register these in AQHA and many other registries. How does the Fjord registry handle this, and have people tried breeding them to dilute color?
A Beautiful Fall Ride
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought I would share all my wonderful stories about this week. First, my friend Sarah from Sandpoint, Idaho brought her harness over and we tried it out on Ike. She gave me a quick lesson on ground driving, and going on the basis that Ike has driven before, we went for a little turn around the corral. It was great!! He responded by voice command only, and picked up a trot (boy did I get a work out) and we did figure 8's and everything. So now I want to hook him up to a cart for sure. Then later on this week, we decided to try Opal (our mare) out on a little trail ride, she has been doing so well in the arena, so we went off the property and about a 1/4 mile away. we came across, loud vehicles, dogs and GARBAGE CANS and she did great. We tried it again later in the week, ponying baby HArrison, she did fine and so did he Today I saddled up Ike in my brand new Aussie saddle and we went on a 4 hour trail ride around the mountains by our house, we saw deer, elk and all kinds of droppings from many animals and had a great view of the Bitteroot Valley from way up there, I didnt want it to end, Ike crossed the irrigation canal twice and wanted to play in the water for sure. The leaves are turning, and the mountains are snow topped, it was truly breathtaking and I could have rode all day. But reality, I was paying a babysitter to watch the little redheads , and had to get back home.Hope you all had a great weekend too Sincerely, Michele Noonan In the Bitteroot Valley Stevensville, Montana
Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #221
This message is from: Harold Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wanted to write in that I just returned from an overnight camping trip with my new 2 year old fjord named Redford. Ive had him about 2 months, Im new to the breed after owning apps. for about 6 yrs. My dream has always been to ride the trails and go in water alone or with other horses and riders along. I went with friends to a 4-H campout in Wisconsin. We had purchased 12 foot cattle gates that attach to each other to use as a round pen type turnout. It worked great! I saw similar with John Lyons.we bought6 pieces at Fleet Farm for $46.oo ea. My friends couldnt believe Red had only b een under saddle for 2 months, never even cantered. We went in a group of 6 people/horses. We even went in the river, he just walked in and took a drink. I actually had tears coming down my face. I kept yelling, this is what life is all about. I had so many people stop and ask about him. What type of horse etc. etc. My red Fjord,, Redford..is everything I hoped him to be. Im a happy camper t onight. sheri *
Re: Trace clipping
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Misha asked how to get a clip to look smooth.. I am no expert here but the theory is to follow the direction of hair growth as closely as possible with the clippers. This might mean curving them around as you move along. Long even slow paths with the direction of growth often work to give even cut. If you go across the direction of growth you will get clipperb blade marks, if you lean too heavy on one side of the clippers you will get the long line marks between runs...I am sure anyone who has clipped knows all about those lines!! ANy way it is a real art that I cannot say I have totolly mastered to get a completely smooth, line free clip job, especially on these beasts with their arctic coats. It is a different experience on Thoroughbreds or thinner coated breeds... I try to clip in the fall when there is still going to be a little growth of winter coat left so that hopefully those lines will grow out and fade away.. Other wise you are stuck with them for the season. Happy clipping. Anne A.
Re: Fjords and Parelli
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail, I got a kick out of the broom bit. I had to sneak around when picking manure with the pitchfork. Howdie would come running whenever he saw the fork to get itched. Made a pest of himself. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: Vacationing with horses
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda, why do I get the picture of gypsies when I read your post. Sounds so free and relaxing. What a great feeling to ride Sven for the first time and find him so relaxed and confident. Pure heaven from this locked in persons point of view. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
The 'kvittRe: White Fjords
This message is from: Mary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 'kvitt' Fjord looks exactly like a cremello color in other breeds. It is not possible to register these in AQHA and many other registries. How does the Fjord registry handle this, and have people tried breeding them to dilute color? -Original Message-- NFHR web site of Luna, the sixth color, the 'kvitt' Fjord: http://www.nfhr.com/gallery/FG%20LUNA.jpg Meredith Sessoms --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
Vacationing with horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everybody; We returned yesterday from our first trip to our vacation home with the troops -- 2 dogs, 2 horses and the parakeet!!! Eight days of fun, fun, fun!! (home meaning trailer with no running water and no plumbing) Seems like we took everything but the kitchen sink -- I drove the truck and horse trailer packed tight and my hubby drove the van and a trailer. When we arrived we had to string wire for the fencing - after walking the horses around a bit we put them back in the trailer with the doors open - they ate and watched with curiosity as we prepared their pen. Once inside there was lots of grass to munch on - Sven did not lift his head for days :) Our first drive included several neighbors - all of whom had been waiting for the Fjord to arrive - they loved him!! Unfortunately, as we left to meet everyone, the weather became cold and windy and on our drive the tire on my cart went flat - pumped it up at a neighbors and made it back home. Tracked 7 miles that day!! The weather turned nasty for the next three days - no horsing. The last two days temps went up, the sun was out and it was beautiful. Our land is near Rollag, Minnesota - an area of rolling hills, much of which is prairie or farmed. Fall was at it's peak and the colors were great. Our next drive took us down a two-track road (a township road with no maintance - barely wide enough for one truck) -- about two+ miles one way. Quiet, beautiful and perfect for the horses - breathtaking to see for miles and miles. The following day we planned another drive on our property before we headed home - again, flat tire!!! Phooey - I was so disappointed!!! Then I decided, HECK!!!, I am going to RIDE Sven - he is such a sweetie, appears to be very comfortable with the area - never mind he is not trained to ride!!! So, I put his driving bridle on - added my riding reins and put a bareback-pad on him. Off we went - HE WAS A DOLL We rode for about 40 minutes - felt like I was on a sofa - HA!! What a great horse -- the more I do with him, the more I want to do -- he is so steady, willing, quiet - you know, all that Fjord-type stuff :) (His sire is Toby from The Upper Forty - THAT too is why he is so wonderful!!) The other great thing about Sven is that he has gotten me out of the arena - he tolerates arena work but is at his happiest and his best out and about - he just loves it!!! I rode my QH for 5 years in an arena - never outside. So, a successful first trip with everybody - can't wait to go again and stay even longer. We must dig a well next spring -- hauling water gets REAL old -- my hubby said he could not believe how much water the horses drink :) Also, need to get a different cart - something heavier duty than bicycle wheels -- any suggestions?? I do not want pretty -- functional and rugged would be better. I came back to 255 messages - most of which were from the list - chatty bunch lately!!! I did miss my computer and my phone - we are very isolated there and after a few days of visiting with my brother and husband it was getting old :) But then, I am not interested in how many ducks they saw, shot, might see tomorrow, got last year, got five years ago, etc.!!! :):):) Enjoying the many discussions on the list - I am going to get back to them - hope everyone has a good week and can get out and enjoy some nice weather. Linda in MN -- today is in the upper 60's with no wind - we are going to RIDE the horses again today since my cart is still kaput!! I am outfitting Sven in my english gear.
Parelli training for Fjords
This message is from: misha nogha [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you check out our web page, http://www.eoni.com/~mishamez, you can see a lot of Fjords with Parelli training on them. In some I am riding my stallion using only a small string. He remains very light and responsive to it. Most of my Fjords are of the peppy and sensitive type and respond well to the level of phases, but some are the more stoic. For the really stoic, I do NOT elevate phases , rather I lower them. For example, you want your horse to move sideways away from the pressure of your fingertips--so when you are riding the horse moves away light from leg cues--the stoic horse, instead of moving away, may actually really lean into pressure. I think this is because Fjord horses are draft horses and they are bred to lean into pressure. So, what I do is use a very light pressure, like say, just tickle the hair and keep irritating them until they move over. See? Fjords are Really different at the Parelli stuff but as you can see by my pages, they do it well. Fjords are extremely intelligent and they like being buds. You just have to be smart too, to read them. Outwardly a Fjord seems quite calm but inwardly they can be very sensitive. Just upping the phases sometimes will just cause them to blow up. I don't only use Parelli training. I use visualization and occasionally I use treats if I get a BIG yes to a very difficult execution. Most of the time the reward is a good scratch or a hug. Fjords seem to like em--at least mine do. There are two really great Natural Horsemanship trainers out there who have worked with Fjords and like them. One is Barb Apple, she will come to your town and give clinics. The other is Katie Lay, she is a fantastic colt starter or re-starter using NH techniques. You can email me privately if you want their phone numbers. Misha, Shota Fjords
Introduction
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, My name is Danny Large and I live in San Antonio, Texas. I am 13 and have always admired pictures of Fjord's in all of my horse books. I have had a year and a half of hunter/jumper training and I am somewhat experienced in it. I have always had an interest in all animals, but especially horses (and specifically - Fjords). I had never seen a Fjord at any of my friend's stables, but I recently met up with a beautiful 10 year old mare named Amber. She is one of the best looking horses I have ever seen and has an excellent disposition. I knew one day I would own and breed these magnificent horses. I am looking forward to communicating with others on the list... Danny
Re: Parelli
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am surrounded by people of 2 minds. Those who treat Parelli like a religion and worship almost like a cult and those who hate it with equal enthusiam, think it's the devil himself and hate anybody who even does that . I've viewed the 7 games tape and, frankly, wasn't impressed, but I am bewildered by the passion the training method engenders in those around me. I've noticed that those I know who do use it can't control their horses and their horses are usually confused but I don't know if it's them or the method. I did like both the Shrake and the Lyons tapes. Gail in Albuquerque
