Re: Trace clipping
This message is from: John and Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marsha, And boy do I need a confidence boost! Ran the dressage test today; enter ring zigzag to X; halt at 45 degree angle and salute. Kilar takes a dump. Trot on. Circle right no problem. Circle left half circle plus another zigzag. This is a test we were doing Ok three weeks ago! And I know he can do it. Oh well. I'll get the clippers out tomorrow morning and get started. He'll be an attention getter no matter what I do. At least he'll be comfortable. He is just such a ham! Marsha Jo Hannah wrote: Think of this as a learning experience. You're learning how to clip. > You're learning how to do CDEs. My guess is that you'll make enough > other (normal-for-beginners) mistakes that a fraction of a point for > "pretty" isn't going to change your placing! Go with what makes you > and your horse comfortable. IMHO, the added confidence is likely to > improve your performance! > > Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! > 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. > ---
Potomac fever
This message is from: Alison Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi List, Ingrid I hope your horse gets well. I had a horse that came down with Potomac Fever. She spend 4 days in the vets on IV. She recovered fully with no lasting effects. From what I have read on Potomac Fever, it is contacted from snails that live on the ground. There is a vaccine for Potomac Fever. It does give you peace of mind. Good luck Alison from Alberta where it is cool, but sunny
Training
This message is from: "Laurie Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Most importantly, Marty stresses safety, but not in an overdone way, but from the standpoint of sheer common sense.< This is what I like about John Lyons also. His three rules in training are, #1- The training should be safe for me. #2- The training should be safe for the horse. #3- The horse should be calmer after the lesson than before. Laurie, in NW Washington
Re: Trace clipping
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marty, go for it and clip. Kilar will be ever so grateful - and hey, they don't call it a 'trace clip' for nothing... And my vote is with the hard hat. If it feels right, and safe, JUST DO IT! Good luck, good night and happy driving,Karen (-So says a woman with 5 driving hats, one ea. western straw and felt, and a velvet hunt cap tht's not legal, and one that is.A real fashion victim!) __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Parelli training
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Parelli training Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:03:44 -0800 This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well I am sure not cultish about it, but I like methods that work >and I have had a lot of success with it. Misha, I think I can see from whence some of the negative attitude cast in Mr Parelli's direction comes...he is an excellent marketer, and some would say too much of a showman than a teacher. Also, he and a whole bunch of 'clinicians' out there, good, and bad, have amassed a HUGE following of "groupies", people who seem to thrive on seeing what the latest horse whisperer or european dressage trainer can do to enlighten them, but one wonders if they spend TOO much time and money chasing names, rather than settling down and spending quality time on their horse with a good and reputable (local) trainer.( I subscribe to a NH periodical called 'The Trail Less Travelled'.It's a decent enough rag, but sometimes I really wonder if some of the people that are shown in the magazine ever really get on with it and USE their horses, or if they just like to talk about it all the time...) Personally, I think that there are allot of better 'names' out there than Parelli now, having eclipsed him in fact. I have seen people at my old barn get into some real wrecks doing some of his (Parelli's) stuff. They had no real common sense around horses to begin with, and got kicked,run over, etc. Not a good situation for un-supervised beginners. I'd like to put a plug in for a great book just put out in the Western Horseman series of training books,(as is Parelli's). It's titled,'Problem Solving' by Marty Marten. I cannot say enough good things about this book, as it addresses the most elemental, but sometimes most overlooked aspects in training ANY horse. The writing is clear and the photos are very well done. Most importantly, Marty stresses safety, but not in an overdone way, but from the standpoint of sheer common sense. 2 of my students love it, and I am going to give a few more away at Christmas. BTW, although Marty doesn't acknowlege Parelli in his forward/dedication, he has been thru the proverbial "Parelli mill" so to speak, as he worked for him, riding the testier colts, etc. (Someone very close to me also worked for Parelli at the same time, and he has a few stories he could tell as well. Parelli is not a saint; a good psychologist/horseman/marketer = yes.) Anyway, I think its good that you have extracted what you can use from Parelli, as there is no 'one' way to do things. When something becomes an end in itself, therin lies the rub. Take it easy, Karen __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Fevers...Potomac
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ingrid, I'm sure that was alarming to find Lilla in that condition. Hopefully, though, it will be nothing terribly serious because up to about 101.5 degrees can be normal for a horse. So 102 degrees was not terribly high. The fact that you put a sheet on her may have caused it to go up higher by the time the vet arrived. Potomac Horse Fever is usually accompanied by severe diarrhea, which you didn't mention, so hopefully it's not that. Wouldn't it be "nice" (considering the alternatives at least) if it just turned out to be a run-of-the-mill viral respiratory infection? We see many that start out exactly as you described Lilla. Even a horse that's been well vaccinated and hasn't been around "strange" horses can occasionally pick one up. Hope she continues to improve! Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:56:08 -0500 Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >This message is from: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hello everyone... >My beautiful mare Lilla has not been herself lately. Came home >last >night, after visiting family all day, to find my girl standing with >her >head down, not eating or drinking, and with a fever of 102. >Yikes...have >not ever had to deal with a fever before and felt very badly for the >poor creature. Put a call in to the vet first of course and while >waiting for him, gave Lill 2 butes and put a sheet on her. Her temp >went >up a degree by the time he arrived and he had a serious look on his >face. Not sure if the serious look was due to the fact that his >favorite >baseball team was losing or this was a pretty bad situation. I >believe >it was a combination. >My wonderful "non-horsey" hubby held on to her little colt, I >held >Lill...and the vet did his thing. Tubed her for fluids, drew blood, >gave >tri-cyclamine (sp?) and banamine. All of this helped and this morning >she is starting to nibble on some hay again and drink water. Her temp >is >down to 100.5. Whew!...thank goodness. >We'll know more as to why she became ill from the results of the >blood test. Our vet's final thoughts on her condition last night was >that she may have Potomac Horse Fever. He'll be out once again today >to >give her another round of tri-cyclamine. >Has anyone ever experienced this in any of their horses before? >What >was the outcome and treatment? I did some research late last night on >the net to read more about it and found it can have up to a 30% >mortality rate, with complications of Laminitis. I assume this 30% >mortality rate is if the horse has not been vaccinated for the >disease? >None of my other creatures are ill and we've never had this happen >before, so it came as a complete surprise. We've always taken the >utmost >care of our horses (current vaccinations, on-schedule farrier care, >good >feed and hay, etc)...they are part of our family. >Any input from you would be appreciated...thanks! >Ingrid >...(Let's hope it's not Potomac and just a nasty virus) :o( > >
Re: hello
This message is from: "cnielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear Griet, thanks for the pattern, looks really neat. Randi Nielsen Blue River,Wi. - Original Message - From: griet vandenbroucke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 12:13 PM Subject: hello > This message is from: "griet vandenbroucke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hi List, > > Today i send the patterns for the Fjord. > Please let me know if I forgot someone (hope not) > > have lots of fun brodering and fjording at the same time! > > Griet Vandenbroucke > >
Re: Fair Hill
This message is from: "Mark and Lisa K. McGinley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anne Morgan wrote: > > > An aside -that is one thing I would ask of the list - PLEASE > include city,state when mentioning Fjord events - it took me a full > month to figure out where Libby was, and I still don't know where Blue > Earth is! (Minnesota?) It's just easier to know instantly if it's near > or far, especially since we newcomers do not know where all you listers > live. Blue Earth is in southern MN where you can see 50 miles in every direction and 100 miles if you stand on a tuna fish can Mark McGinley Mariposa Farm Washburn, WI (Way north) http://www.angelfire.com/wi/mariposa
Dressage Championships in Ontario
This message is from: Wild Flower Fjord Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Elaine, Congradulations on the championships. I have done the same here in Ontario. Our fjords (Simon and Lady) Won numerous awards. Simon was ranked Champion Basic Dressage horse of the year and Lady won the Reserve Champion of the year. At the championships we placed 8th and 9th. I am very proud of what I have done. But I find that judges can't jedge fjords for their true movments here in Ontario. I had one judge ask me what breed of horse I had!! Keep up the good work!! Renee Lafleur Wild Flower Fjord Farm
Re: cushings
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congratulations Con, you had the opportunity to put an old friend down but you chose to take care of him as long as you can. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Fair Hill
This message is from: "Anne Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For Craig and Laura at Mink Hollow Farm, I am fairly new to the list - have been quietly lurking since August- and bought my first Fjords in July (geldings having their first birthdays at the end of October). I am eager to learn more about competitive driving and would love to know where/when this Fair Hill competition is. It may be worth the longish drive from Virginia if I'm free on whatever the event date is. An aside -that is one thing I would ask of the list - PLEASE include city,state when mentioning Fjord events - it took me a full month to figure out where Libby was, and I still don't know where Blue Earth is! (Minnesota?) It's just easier to know instantly if it's near or far, especially since we newcomers do not know where all you listers live. Thanks, Anne Morgan in Virginia where we need to organize a Central East Coast Fjord group! Seems like there are an awful lot of quiet Fjorders in VA, MD,and NC. Anybody know how to do this? Want to do this?
Re: Life doesn't get much better than this
This message is from: "PSB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HELLO, IN RESPONSE TO GAYLE'S POST. I WAS ONE OF THE "BO DEREK" WANNA BEE'S. WHAT AN ABSOLUTE BLAST! NEITHER OF MY HORSES HAD BEEN ON THE BEACH BEFORE BUT AFTER 5 OR 10 MINUTES OF ISSUES DECIDED IT WAS PRETTY COOL (QUITE LITERALLY). THERE IS NOTHING LIKE GIVING THE HORSE IT'S HEAD AND GO FULL BLAST DOWN THE BEACH, WATER SPLASHING BEHIND YOU. GOOD FRIENDS (BOTH TWO LEGGED AND FOUR LEGGED) ADDED TO AN EXTREMELY AWESOME DAY! THANKS TRACY, LIZ, GAYLE AND DINA PATTY PARADISE ACRES
cushings
This message is from: Corinne Bodeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi. I've been out of town for nearly a week and am now catching up on all my reading. I have a 29 year old quarter horse gelding that has been diagnosed with cushings. It's a struggle but its manageable. The vet did an insulin and thyroid test. Shiloh's insulin hit 121 (10-30 is normal, I believe). Also, like the other writers have suggested, the thyroid becomes involved. Unlike the typical symptoms of curly, long coat, my horse had only lethargy and profusive sweating and excessive drinking as symptoms. I ignored them as it was a very warm spring and he is a very old horse. It wasn't until his feet went bad that "all hell broke loose". He absessed so severely in his right rear we almost had to put him down. It is now October 10 and he can finally walk normally. He was put on Thyroid X (I think) and Cyproheptadine. Since he's so old, and his teeth are going, we have him on all Equine Sr. with hay when and if he can eat it. Well, in conversation with the vet (after the insulin still wouldn't drop) we decided to reduce the Equine Sr. as we felt there was a pretty good case of insulin resistance. It seems to be working. Like I said, this is the first week he has acted and felt like the guy I've known and loved. So be patient with Cushings...and be willing to experiment. The vet said that the thyroid meds were to be in conjunction with the cypro to assist it in reducing the insulin and regulating the adrenal glands. Keep a close eye on the feet. But with good care and monitoring, I'm told they can live a productive life with the disease. Good luck. Cori Bodeman (a hopefully soon to be fjord owner too)
Re: Danny
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Congratulations on starting early to fulfill your dream. I wanted a horse so bad I could taste it when I was 12 or 13, and ended up waiting until I was over 50 to get my first one. Now I have 6 - a beautiful grey stallion who rides, drives and pulls; a brown mare who is bred to him; a 3 year old grey mare that I will breed to him in the late spring, and who drives and is learning to ride; a 2+ year old brown gelding who is learning to drive; his sister, a 1+ year old filly who can get into and out of any gate; and a sweet 5 month old colt. >> Thank you very much! Oh how I would love to have six horses (six Norwegian Fjords, that is) perhaps I will be able to get one eventually. It's possible... Danny
Danny
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Danny - Congratulations on starting early to fulfill your dream. I wanted a horse so bad I could taste it when I was 12 or 13, and ended up waiting until I was over 50 to get my first one. Now I have 6 - a beautiful grey stallion who rides, drives and pulls; a brown mare who is bred to him; a 3 year old grey mare that I will breed to him in the late spring, and who drives and is learning to ride; a 2+ year old brown gelding who is learning to drive; his sister, a 1+ year old filly who can get into and out of any gate; and a sweet 5 month old colt. See what can happen when you finally get going? It's a lot of work and a lot of learning, and I love it. Good luck to you! Sincerely, Peg Knutsen, Knutsen Fjord Farms
Re: Fevers...Potomac
This message is from: Julia Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We have had Potomac fever three times here...always in horses that had recently arrived from areas where it is more common. (In this area, people usually do not vaccinate for it.) One horse had come from North Carolina, one from the Hudson river area of lower New york and one from western PA. One case was a nursing mare and she recovered just fine. One was a 4 year old, and it took her several months to get any pep back. One was a two year old who foundered and had to be hospitalized at Cornell for about 8 days. Controling the fever is very critical to a good outcome! Good luck!
Re: Trace clipping
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > John and Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would like to clip him again but plan to show him (our 1st show) > in November. [...] I don't do a really beartiful job and I'm afraid > he will look 'strange'. The show is a CD, not a pleasure show [...] I > had planned on wearing a hard hat rather than a nice dressy hat for > this show. I understand that this is acceptable, but my instructor > thinks I should dress up. [...] We will only be doing dressage and > cones. In Combined Driving, "pretty" is far less important than "clean and safe". Yes, if you get a picky judge, you might lose a fraction of a point in "Presentation" for a really bad clip job or a really ugly helmet. However, at some events (the ones with marathons), you can get eliminated for having a horse that's overly stressed, i.e. doesn't get his pulse and heart rate down properly at the rest stop, or the end of the marathon. Think of this as a learning experience. You're learning how to clip. You're learning how to do CDEs. My guess is that you'll make enough other (normal-for-beginners) mistakes that a fraction of a point for "pretty" isn't going to change your placing! Go with what makes you and your horse comfortable. IMHO, the added confidence is likely to improve your performance! Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. ---
Dressage Championships
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For anyone on the List that is interested in dressage competitions, I thought I would share with you some pretty exciting news. This year I have been showing a gelding, BDF Idar, that I purchased from Beaver Dam Farm last year. This horse was primarily a driving horse and his exposure to any type of dressage training was new to him. When I first got him, I couldn't work him hard for almost 6 months because he got a bad pneumonia shipping from Nova Scotia to CA. Once he was healthy, we began working on fundamental dressage, and I am proud to say that in less than a year, this horse has come home from the United States Dressage Federation Regional Championships Show where he placed 6th in the Training Level Division against a fabulous field of the top dressage horses in this region. Realistically, it is hard to place at a show of this caliber with ANY horse, so the fact that I was riding a Fjord made it even more special. After a well-deserved "break" of a few weeks from training (any longer than this and he gets bored), Idar will begin preparing for his next show at First Level. So if anyone else has a Fjord with very good gaits and a good attitude, get them out to the dressage arena! Regards, Elaine Olsen
Re: Fjords and Parelli
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I, too, have contemplated starting the seven games with Major, our Fjord, but just due to time, have not. We have a very good friend who is working on level ?3 and spent 3 weeks in Co this summer at his place. I will ask her what she recommends for this type of horse -- and use Major as an example since she saw him at the last show and knows his temperament. I'll let you know! Susan
Re: Trace clipping
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martie, I compete my Fjord a lot in dressage and to me, it is imperative that they are clipped otherwise they suffer by overheating. I live in a warm climate(CA) and I often do a full body clip twice a year. I clipped my competition horse at least a week before the show because even clipping a horse can create some stress because of the difference in body cooling. I clipped him in Oct. and I am sure he will need it again in January. I think Fjords look beautiful with a full body clip...just like a summer coat. And I do sheet or blanket him when his clipped. So clip away! Elaine Olsen
Re: Trace clipping
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 02:46 PM 10/11/99 -0400, you wrote: Also, I had planned on wearing a hard hat rather than a nice dressy hat for this show. I understand that this is acceptable, but my instructor thinks I should dress up. I always work Kilar with the hard hat. Since this will be our first show, I would be more comfortable wearing the hard hat. Thoughts on this? We will only be doing dressage and cones. If you are more comfortable with the hard hat by all means wear it!!!
Re: Arena footing
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy, I'm a little behind on my E-mail but thought I'd respond to it anyway regarding arena footing. I researched a lot of footing materials before we built our 150 X 300 FT. outdoor arena 3 years ago. We looked at that stuff, even got some samples in but there were too many questions in my mind, like how it evens out when you harrow it and where in the heck do you dispose of rubber product if you get it down and don't like it. Also, we had concerns with contamination and the fine black dust particles that rise up when riding on it? Decided not to take the leap especially considering the cost. If you want more info on how we constructed the footing layers in our arena, E-mail me privately, and I'd be happy to help out. We are very happy with how it turned out! Susan in MN
Re: help with trailers and travel
This message is from: John and Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Laura and Craig, I will be working at Fair Hill again this year! I think I am scheduled as a hazards timer and a cone pusher. Unless they change the assignments again. John will be weighing carriages on Saturday. I hope to see you both again! You both did so GREAT at the Laurels. Martie
Re: Trace clipping
This message is from: John and Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I trace clipped Kilar last year and was thrilled to be able to work with him all winter without the hours-long drying and cleanup time. Today I drove him after about 3 weeks off. It was really warm today and he sweated badly and tired after just 1/2 hour. I would like to clip him again but plan to show him (our 1st show) in November. That means I will be driving more regularly for the next couple weeks to get ready. And it means I will be spending a LOT of time cleaning up. Any thoughts about whether it would be better to clip him now, before the show or wait until after? I don't do a really beartiful job and I'm afraid he will look 'strange'. The show is a CD, not a pleasure show so maybe it is more important for him to be really comfortable than really Fjordy? He does look a little strange with the trace clip and all the heavy body hair. Also, I had planned on wearing a hard hat rather than a nice dressy hat for this show. I understand that this is acceptable, but my instructor thinks I should dress up. I always work Kilar with the hard hat. Since this will be our first show, I would be more comfortable wearing the hard hat. Thoughts on this? We will only be doing dressage and cones. thanks, Martie
Re: Fjords and Parelli
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am currently using the Parelli method, primarily the seven games, with my gelding. At first things didn't seem to phase him and he was indifferent to some pressure points, but now he's got the hang of things and it's fun. I just practiced with him consistently each time before I ride we run through several of them. I am a firm believer in the method and it's definitely taught me a few things. Good Luck. Tracy and NORMAN in Sunny and Cool Indiana. We have had some really gorgeous fall weather:o)
Re: Fevers...Potomac
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ingrid, I do not know where you live but I do know Potomac fever is quite rare here in Wash state. But I still have my horses vac. for it and rabies. Lots of bats here. Last year there was a strange fever going around the area, Seattle, Tacoma and Aberdeen (that I know of) that needed quick intervention or dire results followed. But these horses were high fever and ill for days. My boy had a high fever 105 deg. but it turned out to be a torsion that the vet could not diagnose and said "Potomac fever" instead. She has been in trouble many times and has now left the area. I would feel good about the quick reaction to the treatment as if it were something more severe it would not go away easily. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
RE: hello
This message is from: Jeri L Rieger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Griet, plz send me one!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From: griet vandenbroucke[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 12:13 PM To: fjord Subject:hello This message is from: "griet vandenbroucke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi List, Today i send the patterns for the Fjord. Please let me know if I forgot someone (hope not) have lots of fun brodering and fjording at the same time! Griet Vandenbroucke
hello
This message is from: "griet vandenbroucke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi List, Today i send the patterns for the Fjord. Please let me know if I forgot someone (hope not) have lots of fun brodering and fjording at the same time! Griet Vandenbroucke
Parelli training
This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well I am sure not cultish about it, but I like methods that work and I have had a lot of success with it. As you can see by my web page, I am riding my stallion with just a string--if I could not control my horse do you think i would be playing that game! Ha. Just like any other discipline--you get out of it what you put into it. It takes time. Actually, I don't just go with the Parelli method, I use all the NH techniques and even have developed my own using visualization. It's cool. But then, I spend a lot of time with my horses, all the time actually. So we really know each other. If you don't want to take a lot of time getting your horse supple and willing and looking to you for guidance then don't do this method. No method is perfect. I prefer the Barb Apple method over Parelli---she seems to understand Fjords. In addition, I use the methods just to get a partnership with my horse. Now I want to go onto some other disciplines in specific ares such as dressage or reining. I feel like I have set my horses up to succeed. Misha
Re: Vacationing with horses
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear pennie, do you have fjords in oakdale. i know hold your horses is there. i live not too far in mokelumne hill. denise
Re: horse supplies
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear lori, try chicks and valley vet in calif. or petsmart. denise
Re: Life doesn't get much better than this
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/11/99 7:06:37 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << There is nothing finer than to taste the salt air, listen to the waves crashing, and to run through the surf until the tears meet in the back of your head!! The horses LOVE it too. I could go clear to Baja if my horse wouldn't drop dead under me!! Bo Derrick, eat your heart out!! >> You're making me nostalgic for my days back in Malibu. Course I didn't have a fjord then, but an arab. Still it was so much fun riding through the waves, bareback . What fun! And what beach is this that is geared up for horses only? I may want to trailer out there sometime myself. Pamela
Fevers...Potomac
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello everyone... My beautiful mare Lilla has not been herself lately. Came home last night, after visiting family all day, to find my girl standing with her head down, not eating or drinking, and with a fever of 102. Yikes...have not ever had to deal with a fever before and felt very badly for the poor creature. Put a call in to the vet first of course and while waiting for him, gave Lill 2 butes and put a sheet on her. Her temp went up a degree by the time he arrived and he had a serious look on his face. Not sure if the serious look was due to the fact that his favorite baseball team was losing or this was a pretty bad situation. I believe it was a combination. My wonderful "non-horsey" hubby held on to her little colt, I held Lill...and the vet did his thing. Tubed her for fluids, drew blood, gave tri-cyclamine (sp?) and banamine. All of this helped and this morning she is starting to nibble on some hay again and drink water. Her temp is down to 100.5. Whew!...thank goodness. We'll know more as to why she became ill from the results of the blood test. Our vet's final thoughts on her condition last night was that she may have Potomac Horse Fever. He'll be out once again today to give her another round of tri-cyclamine. Has anyone ever experienced this in any of their horses before? What was the outcome and treatment? I did some research late last night on the net to read more about it and found it can have up to a 30% mortality rate, with complications of Laminitis. I assume this 30% mortality rate is if the horse has not been vaccinated for the disease? None of my other creatures are ill and we've never had this happen before, so it came as a complete surprise. We've always taken the utmost care of our horses (current vaccinations, on-schedule farrier care, good feed and hay, etc)...they are part of our family. Any input from you would be appreciated...thanks! Ingrid ...(Let's hope it's not Potomac and just a nasty virus) :o(
RE: Vacationing with horses
This message is from: "Hastie, Penny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Marsha Jo Hannah...yes contact Milton Carriage Works...I have used their solid tires for both draft and pony sizes...but a real cheap quick fix is to use the SUV/Off road green tire seal that you get either at the bike store or the farm store. I use the SUV that has tire particles in it so it self seals the big holes. Milton Carriage is sloow in getting work done. Great work but you do need to be patient. Penny Hastie, I'm in Oakdale, Ca. > -Original Message- > From: Marsha Jo Hannah [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 6:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Vacationing with horses > > This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > on our drive the tire on my cart went flat [...] > > need to get a different cart - something heavier duty than bicycle > > wheels -- any suggestions?? I do not want "pretty" -- functional > > and rugged would be better. > > I'd suggest that you contact > > Paul Milton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://miltoncarriageworks.com > > He makes metal carriages that are tough and functional; several folks > in our driving club have them, and really like them. He also makes > metal carriage-style wheels designed to replace bicycle wheels on a > "pipe cart". Folks on the Carriage Driving List speak highly of these > wheels. The only drawback is that most "pipe carts" are designed > such that the flex in the bicycle tires and spoked wheels is the only > thing that "softens" the ride at all. With more rigid wheels, the > ride becomes really awful! > > When you talk to him, mention Fjords. He used to own the pair that > Brigid-in-CA now has. > > Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! > 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. > ---
Re: Trace clipping
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Since moving to the more temperate climate here in > Oregon, I have found it > necessary to trace a couple of our heavier coated > Fjords. > Some time later, one of our clients, Becky Crosbie, > purchased Lars, out of > Mary Thurman's white mare, Line. He is another one > who grows way too much > hair for this climate. He comes by his long coat naturally!! Line grows way too much coat every year, but solves it much the way Molde does - she starts to shed around mid-December, and sheds steadily all winter long(although not in bunches). Don't even own a pair of clippers, but maybe I can borrow a pair and get someone to help me clip her this winter if she doesn't need all that coat. Will wait to see what winter has in store for us this year, though. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: White Fjords
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- griet vandenbroucke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "griet vandenbroucke" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Mike, > Ky mare Kely, has FLIKKA as grandmother, could that > ever be the same > horse Griet, Many Fjords have the same name, because of different registries in each country. The way to keep them straight is to include their registration number along with their name - in this case Flikka N-13310. If the Flikka on your mare's pedigree has this same N- number, then it is the same horse. I also found it confusing until I started keeping track of the registration numbers, as well as the names. Mary, who owns Line(who now has three registration numbers, as she has been registered/has lived in three different countries in her 28 years.) = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Life doesn't get much better than this
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, I just read the latest "Digest" and it sounds like several of you also enjoyed one last great "HOOORH" before winter sets in. Yesterday, several of the gals from my barn loaded up our horses and headed for the ocean to ride in the surf n' sand. About an hour's drive from our ranch, there is a state funded park on the beach that is for horses only, nice graveled parking area large enough to accomodate several trailers, camping sites, hitching rail, restroom, etc. Don't mind paying my taxes when they are used for such endeavors!! The weather was absolutely gorgeous. Mornings are the best time to ride on the beach. The afternoons tend to bring the wind. The tide was coming in and the sun was shining brightly. LIFE JUST DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER! There is nothing finer than to taste the salt air, listen to the waves crashing, and to run through the surf until the tears meet in the back of your head!! The horses LOVE it too. I could go clear to Baja if my horse wouldn't drop dead under me!! Bo Derrick, eat your heart out!! We watched a sea lion bobbing in the surf and looking for lunch. It was a totally AWESOME day. When you're enjoying these memorable times with your equine friends, it is hard to remember that there are troubles in the world. We all will look forward to going again. Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR
horse supplies
This message is from: "Fred & Lori Osmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi to all of you!!! Thanks for all the tips on the fencing. I appreciate it. I am now wondering if anyone has a particularly great place that they buy their horse supplies, like wormer, showsheen, etc.??? I have used American Livestock, but am wondering if you all have a better place??? Their Ivermectic in, I think about $9.75 approx Thanks and happy fjording!!! Lori=20 CATSOFOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/8660
help with trailers and travel
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear list, Craig and Laura of Mink Hollow here. Hope you are all having a super day. We are trying to do the impossible and both compete, we are wondering if anyone has any good ideas on trailers 4 horses, 3 4 wheelers, 1 2 wheeler, 1 ATV, to fit in one trailer, anyone stack like Orville and Anita? We don't care much about lots of tack/dressing room. We also travel with 2 navigators, one mom to babysit, 2 kids and ourselves. We have seen alot of people using travel trailers to camp in and seperate trailer for horses and Equipment. Any Creative Fjord people who could offer suggestions. Love to hear your input. We had a really fun trip to Gladstone, our first intermediate CDE. I was 2nd in Int. single pony and Craig was 3rd in Int. pair pony. It was a learning experience for both of us, moving up and the following Craig's pair Abby and Evita, had their ECC vehicle lock the back brake and basically had been pulling the vehicle like a sled, the poor dears! They made their times amazingly enough yet had no usual go in the hazards, Craig and Russ did not know the brake was still frozen till the end when they picked it up and tried to turn it. Those Fjords do not give up!! I had a day that I truly needed a good navigator. Niki May was riding with me luckily, I have a new horse I have been bringing along , She did super, 1st in dressage and only knocked down one in cones (30 cm) but before the marathon she spooked over some water and sent herself up the side of a bank before I could blink. She is athletic, so we tried to send her up the bank but a tree blocked the vehicle. Niki was calm and collected , together we backed her down the hill and made her go back over. This set the tone for the day, she tried to exit a large water crossing by jumping a barrier and once again Niki saved the day and helped lead her over. Thanks Niki , really needed that Excellent horsemanship! Our last bit of news is that SFAbigail will be the 9th recipient of the NFHR Registry of Excellence award, a nice tribute to Holunder after his recent passing, she is his daughter. We are off to Fair Hill International in Maryland shortly, any Fjord List members be there?
Re: driving
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is not a solicitation -- I've never even met Carol Rivoire of Beaver Damn Farm. I thought her videotape on driving was very helpful in explaining what and how. It also decided me that I didn't want to, but that's a decision I made based on having information and matching it with my personality, which is a good thing. And never say never. I've still never experienced driving.Gail in Albuquerque
Re: The 'kvittRe: White Fjords
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 01:26 PM 10/10/99 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: Mary Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The 'kvitt' Fjord looks exactly like a cremello color in other breeds. It is not possible to register these in AQHA and many other registries. How does the Fjord registry handle this, and have people tried breeding them to dilute color? The one horse of this type in N America that I know of is FG Luna. He is a gelding so he hasn't been used for breeding. He was registered before I was the Registrar and I believe it was by a decision of the BOD. I am not sure but I would guess that his gelding was a condition of the registration. Mike -Original Message-- NFHR web site of Luna, the sixth color, the 'kvitt' Fjord: http://www.nfhr.com/gallery/FG%20LUNA.jpg Meredith Sessoms --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trace clipping and Athletic Fjords
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 08:57 AM 10/8/99 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I like Carol Rivoires idea of putting some of the super athletes on the NFHR page. Whaddya say Mike? I think we should use NA horses as these guys are the ones we are most likely to see around. We have to include geldings too or we would miss out on Wez. I don't have a problem with that at all. All I need is the pictures. I do have one of Laurie's sliding stop pictures of Dusty on the site. One of the pages I love to send people to, other than Laurie Pittman's photo page, is Mike May's personal page with Malla flying over that log jump! What a horse! Not to mention the great rider. I guess I should put that one on the NFHR site too. It is a cool picture. The resolution of it isn't great because it was taken at quite a distance and blown up during the scanning of it. Mike
Re: White Fjords
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:11 PM 10/8/99 +0200, you wrote: This message is from: "griet vandenbroucke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Mike, Ky mare Kely, has FLIKKA as grandmother, could that ever be the same horse?? I think it is very possible. The N-13310 is Flikka's Norwegian Registration number. Here is the pedigree for Flikka: FLIKKA N-13310 DYRE N-1059 BORGEN N-1406 FLORA N-2623 PERFEKT N-1520 OYARBLAKKEN N-819 INGER N-5551 NILSINE N-2419 TRULS N-947 LUN N-1011 LUNA N-3114 BREIDI N-12059 KARESON ERESFJORD N-623 GJOA N-3346 NIPA N-2639 === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
