tractors and barns, etc.

1999-10-15 Thread Bushnell's
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Lisa, thanks for the barn story.. interesting to us I guess because we're
contractors and realize what a major effort that would be.

We were so thrilled to have two barns for our horses when we moved here (a
year ago now) and have since arranged them into four housing areas.
Although the Fjords do real well out of doors it's wonderful that they have
shelter. (makes us feel good even if they don't care =)

One of the barns is an original homestead barn made of logs; picturesque..
I was proudly showing a snapshot of my Duffer colt at Libby and a lady
said, Oh, what a neat barn!.

I was talking to a neighbor recently, telling her about our New Holland
tractor, and she said they'd purchased one over twenty years ago, brand
new, and twenty years later sold it for MORE money than the purchase price!
Shows you how tractors hold value.

Jean, sorry to hear that winter's befallen you already! The multi-colored
leaves and the golden Tamarack needles here are splendid!!! But we can
already feel the winter; 20 degrees this morning.

Okay, I didn't have much to say, but I've been quiet for quite a while and
couldn't help myself =) I so enjoy my Fjord mail each day!

My best to all... Ruthie   NW MT



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-15 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 10/15/99 19:10:42 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 And no I didn't know that gators meant navigators.  I hear the term
 navigator all the time at the CDEs but didn't really understand that a 'gator
 was a 'navigator' and not a 'aligator'. 

Sigh and here all this time, I've been thinking it was alligators!  Which 
are not a laughing matter, mind you.  One of my friends lives in Florida and 
tells me gator stories.  shudder, shiver, shake.  Kinda glad I'm in the 
Northwest.  No rattlers, gators or tarantulas!

Pamela
Thinking about the local mountain lions



PHF, Driving and Camping

1999-10-15 Thread Nancy Hotovy
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Hello to all -

Have really enjoyed all the stories about camping and trail riding with
Fjords.  We have just returned from Brown County, Indiana where Rich and
I, along with Mike and Susie Sadlon took our horses and camped and went
trail riding for 4 days.  The weather was great, the horses were great,
the people were great and then my vacation ended.  Story of my life!  I
am a little concerned however, we received a lot of What breed of horse
is that?.  Felt like I went back 10 years.  At least here in Michigan
people seem to know what a Fjord is even if they have never seen one in
person.  I think more Fjords are needed in Southern Indiana.

There was over 70 miles of trails and our first day out we rode 25 - 30
miles.  Big mistake when taking 3 people who primarily drive.  2nd day,
I rode by myself, then we all went on a night ride.  Was gorgeous out
and we didn't even get lost.

Brian, thanks for naming us on your list of drivers.  Even though trail
riding is my favorite, I can't imagine giving up driving.  Was kind of
like a fever - - just wanted to drive a horse in a cart - - then a team
- - then a tandem - - then a unicorn - - then a 4 up hitch. Rich is the
one who does the plowing, pulling and logging.  Talk about your
all-purpose horse!   I agree with Vivian and Laura - always keep a whip
in hand.  I do a lot of driving on roads and even if you only need it
once in your life, if it isn't in your hand - - you're in trouble.

Someone asked about testing for Potomac Horse Fever.  The University of
Illinois performs a Potomac Horse Fever test.  In the clinic I work for,
we seem to see a lot of it some years and not so much in others.  Have
only had one or two cases this fall.  A few years ago we had quite a few
cases (it seems to hit here during the months of August  September).
We had horses that had been vaccinated come down with PHF but they did
recover.  A few of the unvaccinated ones died - seems to me they didn't
receive prompt treatment either.

Linda - sounds like you and Sven are really a pair.  I agree with Gayle,
the horses seem to like vacations also.

A Happy Fall to Everyone

Nancy from southern Michigan where the weather is perfect!



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-15 Thread Denise Delgado
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i have seen coyotes doing lots of things, but never riding.  perhaps they
howl and yip at sundown to gather up their night ponies and take a ride when
the humans are'nt out!!!  i was afraid to comment myself till i saw all the
others.  i did'nt want to take the chance after my last lesson from the
list.  i hope the original author takes all of this as jest, not a grammar
lesson.  i trace clipped quinn the other day after all the talk of clipping.
he loves it, but did'nt do any acrobatics as misha described, darn!!!  that
sounds like fun!!!  he is recently from canada and looks like a shaggy
buffalo,  (north american fjord that he is),  sans the little pig eyes.
next year i am going to add spirls and racing flames.  maybe that will make
him speed up.  though when he lopes, he has a rocking chair feel, like
waves.   i'm waiting for my husband to fix the trailer plug.  i think i ran
over it.  i hope he hurries, as there is a team penning tonight and i would
like  to introduce quinny to steers and lots or people, dogs and other
horses.  we won't be doing any penning till he feels comfortable about the
ruckus.  i learned a lesson from the knutemeister in turlock.  gotta eat
dinner,  denise in mokelumne hill, calif.  cooler and breezy, still sunny.
i wish fall would get here!!!



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-15 Thread John and Martie Bolinski
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He he he,
Me riding, coyote walking or stalking or whatever coyotes do.  Although the
buzzards were riding one day.  On my horse!  With me!  And the horse was NOT a
happy camper.  Of course, neither was the confused buzzard whose meal we had
disturbed.  Boy are they BIG birds!
And no I didn't know that gators meant navigators.  I hear the term
navigator all the time at the CDEs but didn't really understand that a 'gator
was a 'navigator' and not a 'aligator'.

So you learn something new everyday.  LOL
Martie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 John and Martie Bolinski wrote:

   We have coyotes but have never seen one riding.

 Boy, I hope you never do see one riding 'cause then they could keep
 up with your horse. [:o)



Re[2]: new to the list

1999-10-15 Thread Steve McIlree
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Debby--

Thursday, October 07, 1999, you wrote:

 I'm new to the list and would love to see the t-shirts. Is there a
 website or can someone forward me a picture. Thanks. Debby

  You can see the design that's printed on the shirts at:
   http://members.home.net/smcilree/shirt.htm
  I still have a few shirts in size X-Large left from the first
  printing. If there are enough people who would be interested in
  getting other sizes, let me know by private email and I'll get
  another print run organized in time for Christmas.

--
Steve McIlree  Cynthia Madden -- Pferd, Keyah, Skipper, Tank -- Omaha, 
Nebraska, USA
  Then we began to ride.  My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped
  scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889)



Re: Bill Long etc

1999-10-15 Thread Jean Ernest
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Hardest for
me would be the amount of darkness you get.  But you have your fuzzy weegies
to keep you warm and happy.  
Well, Jean Gayle, I have a new buddy to help keep me warm this winter..My
new little doggie, a four year female Australian Shepherd, has turned out
to be a great companion, and loves to snuggle, snuggle, snuggle.  She has
settled in just great and keeps track of my every move, rides shotgun on
trips to town and now even goes with me to feed the horses.

As far as the darkness, well I guess we used up all that light this summer!
 But with the snow it is light enough to take a walk outside even in the
dark, and I keep lots of lights on in the house!

I just have to get used to the idea of WINTER again...Where DID that summer
go?  I never did half the things with my Fjords I intended to do this
summer! :(

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where we're down to only 9 hours and 46 minutes
of daylight, losing 7 minutes a day!
  





Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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???????

1999-10-15 Thread Jean Gayle
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Peg, Bill Long is not an elderly American woman riding a quarter horse.  



Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Barnes  Noble Book Stores



Re: Bill Long etc

1999-10-15 Thread Jean Gayle
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Hi Jean in Fairbanks.  Kind of feel for you as you ease or maybe go rapidly
into the long winter.  Hard to know what lies ahead this year.  Hardest for
me would be the amount of darkness you get.  But you have your fuzzy weegies
to keep you warm and happy.  Jean



Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Barnes  Noble Book Stores



Re: Driving in the Country Parks

1999-10-15 Thread HorseLotti
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No, no test drive - Ha!!!  Just $10 and I am not sure what that is for - 
maybe maintance of the trail??  Riders do not have to pay a fee - just 
drivers.  Both riders and drivers must provide proof of a certificate to 
drive or a car sticker to enter the park.



Re: Bill Long etc

1999-10-15 Thread Jean Ernest
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I once saw a video on training for CDE that featured Bill Long, an elderly
American woman who was using some QH and a guy from England who drove a
four in hand of Orlov trotters.

This sounds like the Video I have from the Horse in Sport Series: DRIVING
(Now that's original for a title)  Equestrian Video Library, Phone # on the
box is (402)731-5848  I would guess it is still available, look for it in
some of the horse catalogs, such as Millers video and book section, etc.
Shows Bill Long Deirdre Pirie (she didn't look very elderly tho) George
Bowman driving Lippizzaner horses (rather than Orlov trotters).  This is a
great video, shows some exciting footage and some scary wrecks.  (guess
I'll have to watch it again myself.)  

BTW, there is also a great video on DRESSAGE in the Horse in Sport Series,
also one on Polo and another on Eventing.  all great videos!

***
Winter has come to Fairbanks, with our first permanent snow, about 3-4
inches of it on the ground.  Will be snow on the ground now for 6 months!
Oh well, better than the muck and slop we've had for the last 2-3 weeks!
And it's SUNNY today, about 28 degrees (That's the High, Peg) Maybe my
fjords will get a little cleaner now they can roll in the snow rather than
mud!

Jean in Fairbank, Alaska  wishing it was March rather than October!
 

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Utah Fall / Barn Raising / Fjord sz. Meadowbrook Cart !

1999-10-15 Thread Pedfjords
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   Hi everyone !   Greetings from So. Utah and our wonderful fall we are 
enjoying !  Its 83 for a daily high, 28 low tonight. The Fjords are haired up 
like YAK's and are dirty pigs. My Belgian is not far behind. Supposed to cool 
off alot tonight and tomorrow, then warm by next week again. I guess last 
year for the deer hunting opener ( a huge event here, the kids even get off 
school, calling it  Harvest Day ) they had 12 inch's of snow, and alot of 
folks had to be rescued off the mountian from it. So, we have been lucky so 
far, as our barn is ALMOST all up here, and will be put together in another 
2-3 weeks or so. 

Ruthie, you asked about the barn.well, in California we had no need 
for one, and I happend to find this one for sale just before we moved. It is 
a long, wooden barn that we are splitting down the center and having a raised 
breezseway put over the existing top. It will turn a 6 stall type, into a 12 
stall. ( 10 for horses, and a wash room and storage for harness/ buggys / hay 
ect?

  We had to dismantle it, and move it ourselves. Taking it down was not too 
bad, except we had to cut off all the corner fittings, as they were burried 
so deep that even a jack-hammer didnt move them. Putting it up wont be too 
bad either,  VBG but moving it has been a beast. Every board, and each 
section has made it up so far, and most of the roof. The extra pieces will 
make it up in 2 more trips and then BARN RAISING TIME !

 I looked into financing a barn but they are 30,000 to 45,000 for a 10 
stall. We decided to go with white vinyl fencing for our perimiter and also 
inside paddocks and round pen, so there went any extra funds for a barn. I 
paid 4,000 for our used barn in Calif.  and that worked for us. At least its 
paid for !   We shall see how it shapes up soon enough.   Next year, we will 
try and add inside stalls ( yep its wide open ) and finish the exterior with 
new paint.  This winter it will have pipe corrals inside with outside runs , 
so they can get in and out of the wind and cold, if they want. Alot of my 
herd is from Minnesota, and Kaiser's from Canada, so they have experienced 
winter before except those born in Disneyland. ggg  The colt, Valjo, is 
haired up like a walking rugand seems to enjoy the cool mornings, running 
up and down his paddock with poor Kaiser, the  babysitter  trying to keep 
him contained. Kaiser is a gem, and like our Knute was, LOVES babys. Spends 
his day, herding around Valjo, and keeping him out of trouble.

Been out with friends here who ride, and their horses are used to our 
carts now...the BLM land near us is driving heaven, and I plan on having a 
very fit pair for next year. Soft, powdery trails, wide and a million diff. 
ways to go.deer, ect. makes it pretty nice !   I will miss the way that 
Norco, Ca. got my horses broke for street work though.pretty quiet here 
when you get off of the streets ! 


**

Wanted to remind anyone who has or hasnt contacted me about the Meadowbrook 
cart, that it is going to Martins Auction TOMORROW Sat. to be consigned. I 
have a pic. of it to send by E-Mail, and its priced right to sell. All the 
extras, FJORD SZ. E-Mail me or call tonight if at all interested.  I am 
keeping the reserve high tomorrow, and still may have it after the auction, 
depends on how many people want to fight over a cobb sz cart, and how many ( 
? ) Martins may bring out.  Thanks for all the interest !   

Please join PAV Aussie ( Jackie ) and I for Fjord chat every Sun. night 
at PetsandVets on the net. 9:00 Eastern time, horse room 1.  Alot of fun to 
live chat with other Fjord owners and we have a loyal following with many  
once and awhile  drop ins..see you there !

   Lisa Pedersen   PAV FJORDS
Cedar City, Utah / Norco, Calif. 

 HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FJORD..LATELY?



Re: Athletic Fjords - Addition to NFHR site

1999-10-15 Thread Jean Gayle
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Mike that pic of Stovar is beautiful.  all of the gangly traits and soft eye
that we love.  Jean


Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Barnes  Noble Book Stores



A Fjord and a Quarterhorse

1999-10-15 Thread HorseLotti
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Hi List;

I just returned from another first for me -- but not with my Fjord.  Susan 
H. and I were going to meet today for a drive in one of the parks around the 
area.  When I went out this am my Fjord, Sven, had a loose shoe --oh my, what 
a bad deal!!!  It was a beautiful morning with no wind and warming to the 
60's today.  I really wanted to go on this outing.  So, I took my 
quarterhorse (remember, the one I only ride in an arena??) and Susan took her 
Fjord, Major and we RODE the trails instead of driving.  My quarterhorse was 
a doll -- we think it was because he just thought he was with his pasture 
buddy - cool, calm, Sven - HA!

On our side of the Minneapolis metro area there are three County parks that 
are groomed for driving.  Users have to get a special permit for driving.  
The park we were at today was wonderful - mowed grass paths that were nice 
and wide that made a big circle around the park.  Included wooded areas, open 
areas, a lake, a bridge and picnic tables and bathrooms about mid-way.  The 
other park I have been to was not as well groomed but equally fun and pretty. 
 One more park for driving I have not been to yet.  

Our driving club is having a drive in a park tomorrow - the weather does not 
sound promising - glad I went out today.

Have a great weekend - Linda in MN - the leaves are falling fast!!



Re: The Good-Enough Tractor

1999-10-15 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 10/15/99 11:01:59 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Don't post it on
 the list, as I selfishly may not want others to beat me to it. It would
 have to be somewhere in the Northwest (or 'Pacific' Northwest for those
 less geocentric). I have been looking for something with a 60 or wider
 loader with down pressure, power steering, 3-point hitch, live PTO, 2 or
 better-yet 4 wheel drive, 25-30 HP diesel or higher HP gas. And, as I'm
 learning, age may be meaningless. 

Hmmmpph!  That would be ME beating you to it g.  We're just outside of 
Portland Oregon and have been doing the same kind of shopping that you have 
been.  It is outrageous to look at the prices on these old rust monsters.  
And the new ones, well, forget it!  I'm about ready to learn how to hook up 
my horses and do tractor type work with them.

Ah well, best get back off line and back to painting our hay barn while this 
gorgeous warm weather holds.

Pamela



Re: Driving in the Country Parks

1999-10-15 Thread Sarah Vogeley
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Wow, this sounds excellent!  Do you have to do a test drive before 
receiving a permit?

Sarah Vogeley
New Forest Farm
Charlottesville, Virginia

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A Fjord and a Quarterhorse
Date: Sat, Oct 16, 1999, 4:43 AM


 On our side of the Minneapolis metro area there are three County parks that
 are groomed for driving.  Users have to get a special permit for driving.
 The park we were at today was wonderful - mowed grass paths that were nice
 and wide that made a big circle around the park.  Included wooded areas, open
 areas, a lake, a bridge and picnic tables and bathrooms about mid-way. 



Re: The Good-Enough Tractor

1999-10-15 Thread HorseLotti
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We just went through the process of looking for a tractor.  We, too, felt the 
used ones were either really junky (a constant fixer??) or, if you can find 
one, used a little bit and very expensive.  We ended up getting a new one - 
love it - and wonder how we got along without it.  Our farm is l2 acres - we 
mostly mow, haul manure, drag and scoop stuff -- have a 4300 John Deere.

Linda in Mn - Still sunny but rain is on the way



Bill Long etc

1999-10-15 Thread misha nogha
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I once saw a video on training for CDE that featured Bill Long, an elderly
American woman who was using some QH and a guy from England who drove a
four in hand of Orlov trotters. It was all amazing but I must say I was
extremely impressed by Mr. Long. Wish I had the video though I have no idea
what it was called or where to get it. That stunt of crawling under the
reins Long's son did must have been quite a show! Wow!

So Karen, were do you get that Dressage queen stuff? Or maybe some saddle
velcro? Ha. Interestingly enough, when I took Ingmar out the next day at
home to practice our canter departs he was very snappy, but didn't get so
uh--much air. He was also telling me it was too hot to canter. I said, Oh
no smart guy, not with last night's performance. I am just glad I wasn't
riding bareback but glad I have done a lot of canter work that way,
otherwise I might have had another story to tell.

Misha
http://www.eoni.com/~mishamez



Re: Coyotes riding

1999-10-15 Thread Jean Gayle
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Shame Peg, I refrained from coyote riding just to be nice.  But I see it
set you off.  At least it gets expressed as it was building up here.  :)



Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Barnes  Noble Book Stores



The Good-Enough Tractor

1999-10-15 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
This message is from: Knutsen Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings all! Talk about your ultimate lurker - well, here I am, after
- has it been two years?
I am the Chief Enabler at Knutsen Fjord Farm. Yes, it is I who brought
the family name to this enterprise ... this adventure, and it has been
my sometimes direct, sometimes vicarious thrill to experience with Peg
the special world of Fjords. It seems like only yesterday (and it was)
that I was leading a 'normal' life, where the biggest chore in the
morning might be to put out the trash, where vet bills reflected our
dog's simpler problems, where I wasn't so acutely aware of human-animal
weight differentials. That was all BF (Before Fjords). I'm not in Kansas
anymore.

And loving it! I have occasionally suspected some genetic memory thing
in all this - Peg replies to this thread with one of her professionally
askance nods. How do you feel about your cellular-level kinship with
these horses? So, I drop the subject and return to enjoying being
around our herd all I can. Secretly knowing that there really is
something special here.

If I had any doubts, I began seeing the true light when Erlend became
part of our lives. Talk about kinship! Hmmm, this may be devolving into
an unannounced AD. To avoid overdoing it and possible list-purgatory,
I'll proceed to the original reason for my post.

As Chief Enabler, it has been my adopted responsibility as a guy to find
the correct machinery to support our new life style. Flush from a major
truck purchase success, I now must better myself with the ultimate
tractor purchase. (Peg deserves full credit for the perfect trailer
purchase.) Always having found used vehicles/machinery at fair or better
prices, I was expecting no less when looking for a tractor. Silly me.

What is it with tractors? I am consistently finding a totally different
price-to-age/condition ratio than with anything I've seen, save for
antiques, aged liquor, and my personal collection of 1960 Kennedy and
Nixon campaign buttons. What is a fair price, what is value, what should
we expect to pay for what we need? Help! If anyone on the list has or
knows of a promising tractor, please email us directly. Don't post it on
the list, as I selfishly may not want others to beat me to it. It would
have to be somewhere in the Northwest (or 'Pacific' Northwest for those
less geocentric). I have been looking for something with a 60 or wider
loader with down pressure, power steering, 3-point hitch, live PTO, 2 or
better-yet 4 wheel drive, 25-30 HP diesel or higher HP gas. And, as I'm
learning, age may be meaningless.

- Doug ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Coyotes riding

1999-10-15 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
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Hi all,

In the last Digest, Marie Bolinski mentioned that she had never seen a
coyote riding.  Well, I'm not surprised, Marie, I never have either.  I
did know of one who was raised by my former dog trainer - he taught her
to retrieve.  She was great going out to get the bird, but he always had
difficulty with the bringing it back to the handler, sitting, and
giving it to the handler part.  We have lots of coyotes where we live,
and I love to hear their chorus at night.  I wonder what they're singing
about?  Does anyone know?

I'm excited and envious when I read about the wonderful adventures you
all are having riding and driving.  I seems that my learning curve is so
slow, and I wonder when/if  I'll be writing about those successes.  Oh
well, one day at a time.  At least we got the chips spread over the dust
bowl yesterday and now we'll find out how we do when the chips are
down
[Sorry, couldn't help myself}

Sonny is still on the mend.  We discovered that he is anemic, and are
now shoving a noxious fluid containing iron down him twice daily.  He's
become stoic about it.  What a little trooper!  It's nice to see him
contending with his big sister for the foodstuffs again.20

The new barn is nearly finished, but we're stalled [get it?] by the
stall fronts having arrived without feed doors or hardware.  I'm sure
we'll be in it before the Big Cold, though.  We'll be adding diamond
mesh or no climb to the panels for the babies and for Clark, the goat
formerly known as Prince, to stay in with Erlend.  They still are in the
honeymoon phase of their relationship - but it looks like they'll be
willing to make a committment to each other soon.

Have to go now, keep those adventures comingPeg



racing stripes

1999-10-15 Thread Ingrid Ivic
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 you
 didn't add was the warning label. Please note, trace clipping an already
 peppy horse in the fall can have similar results to putting nitrous in your
 fuel tank.

  Yikes Misha!
You certainly have a way with words, I felt like I was there
rocketing towards the sky. Each year I think of clipping my horses, and
each year I put it offh, think I'll put it off again this year,
and live with coolers and slow walking. No wall of death for
meheh-heh-heh. My fjords don't need that kind of extra
encouragement.  (grin)   All the Best...  Ingrid in Ohio :o)



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-15 Thread wcoli
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John and Martie Bolinski wrote:

  We have coyotes but have never seen one riding. 

Boy, I hope you never do see one riding 'cause then they could keep 
up with your horse. [:o)



Use of Whip

1999-10-15 Thread Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/UNEBR
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Thanks, Laura, for crediting me with the whip missive, but that was from Steve
who is kind enough to include me in his signature line. I do agree completely
however! He just beat me to it and fortunately, Tank and I have not yet (notice
the qualifier) ended up in a ditch.

 I never drive without my whip and my hard hat and when I am alone, I take a
cell phone (in a fanny pack and not attached to the cart). Just some additional
safety tip reminders.

Cynthia Madden
Omaha, Nebraska  USA
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Hector Saddles

1999-10-15 Thread Sarah Vogeley
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This is very interesting.  I visited the site and it appears that the saddle
maker himself has a lot of Spanish influence in his saddles.  The El
Hector model is a version of the Doma Vaquera saddle that the Spaniards use
in the sport of Doma Vaquera, which is similar to the US version of reining.

The Hector saddle design has a similar look to my Espanola Saddle, with the
raised cantel and pumel offering a secure fit as well as a close contact
feel with your legs under you instead of in front of you.  The saddle I
purchased was through a company called the Iberian Connection in Lincoln,
CA.  The underside of the saddle is made to conform to your horses back and
fit him comfortably and smoothly.  If anyone wants to see a photo of this
Espanola Saddle, email me directly and I'll send you a photo.  It was
reasonably priced at $950 and I LOVE it for all kinds of riding!

Sarah Vogeley
New Forest Farm
Charlottesville, Virginia

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From: Anneli Sundkvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Saddles
Date: Fri, Oct 15, 1999, 5:17 PM


 This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi all!

 Since yesterday I'm testing a new type of saddle on my fjord gelding Cider.
 This saddle was made here in Sweden and it's called HECTOR. It looks like
 somthing in between a western and an English saddle but also like an
 medieval saddle.

 One of the saddle-makers involved in the project are a fjord-owner and has
 therefore taken the 'special needs' of many fjords into consideration
 during the work with the saddle. Many models are available, among them one
 extra wide and extra short that often fit arabs and fjords.

 The purpose with the saddle is e.g. to give room for the movement of the
 front legs, to give the rider closer contact to the horse and to spread the
 rider's weight over the back of the horse.

 For those who want to see what Hector looks like, wiev here:

 http://hectorfabriken.nu

 The English version in not ready yeat, but if you just clic 'Priser 
 beställning'. Once there, clic anything in the column 'sadlar', you will se
 pics of saddles and other equipment.

 Translations:

 Hector Standart - the standard model
 Hectur Islandssadel - for Icelandic horses, shortened to fit their short
 backs.
 Lector Distanssadel - lightweighted model for endurace, wide tree
 El Hectore - Spanish design for classical dressage
 The Hector - English design
 Actor extra bred - extra wide tree, shortened, extra room over the withers.
 Fits e.g. arabs well.
 Wector western - the western model
 Hector custom - custom-made model

 Today I'm going to ride in this saddle for the first time - exiting!

 Regards

 Anneli in Sweden
 **
 Anneli Sundkvist
 Dept. of Archaeology  Ancient History
 St. Eriks torg 5
 75310 Uppsala
 SWEDEN
 +46-18-4712082 (work)
 +46-18-553627 (home)




Re: Athletic Fjords - Addition to NFHR site

1999-10-15 Thread Mike May

This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At 12:22 PM 10/14/99 -0700, you wrote:

This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have a modest proposal for Mike May  - an addition to the photos of
athletic fjords.

 How about the picture of Tank retrieving his red stall ball?  :)  Or
Kongaard retrieving a bucket?


I don't have a problem with that at all.  I kind of like those type of 
pictures actually.  Have you seen the one I have up there of Stovar 
playing the Kill the Rag game?  Here is a link to it:


http://www.nfhr.com/gallery/hrs035lg.jpg

All I need is the pictures.  I can't put them up if I don't have them.


Maybe even with a little plug for clicker
training.  (I know, I'm insufferable on the subject - just think clicker
training can be so helpful to Fjord owners that I cannot help myself).


Sorry we don't do any advertising on the site.  There are so many different 
training methods that all I can see is problems if one of them is plugged 
and not another of them.



And, while we are at it, doesn't Karen McCarthy train her babies to teeter
totter? :)


I don't know.  Karen?

Mike



Re: Gallop departs ..

1999-10-15 Thread Cheryl Beillard
This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well Misha, you have certainly given us all something to think about as we
urge some or our less peppy fjords into the trot!  I will look for the
sinking of the haunches and hope it propels us into something approaching a
canter for more than three strides .. Great description .. I'm sure many of
us can recall moments when the world whipped by at warp speed although in my
case it always seems to be associated with trees flashing to the right and
left ..



Saddles

1999-10-15 Thread Anneli Sundkvist
This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all!

Since yesterday I'm testing a new type of saddle on my fjord gelding Cider.
This saddle was made here in Sweden and it's called HECTOR. It looks like
somthing in between a western and an English saddle but also like an
medieval saddle. 

One of the saddle-makers involved in the project are a fjord-owner and has
therefore taken the 'special needs' of many fjords into consideration
during the work with the saddle. Many models are available, among them one
extra wide and extra short that often fit arabs and fjords.

The purpose with the saddle is e.g. to give room for the movement of the
front legs, to give the rider closer contact to the horse and to spread the
rider's weight over the back of the horse. 

For those who want to see what Hector looks like, wiev here:

http://hectorfabriken.nu

The English version in not ready yeat, but if you just clic 'Priser 
beställning'. Once there, clic anything in the column 'sadlar', you will se
pics of saddles and other equipment.

Translations:

Hector Standart - the standard model
Hectur Islandssadel - for Icelandic horses, shortened to fit their short
backs.
Lector Distanssadel - lightweighted model for endurace, wide tree
El Hectore - Spanish design for classical dressage
The Hector - English design
Actor extra bred - extra wide tree, shortened, extra room over the withers.
Fits e.g. arabs well.
Wector western - the western model
Hector custom - custom-made model

Today I'm going to ride in this saddle for the first time - exiting!

Regards

Anneli in Sweden
**
Anneli Sundkvist
Dept. of Archaeology  Ancient History
St. Eriks torg 5
75310 Uppsala
SWEDEN
+46-18-4712082 (work)
+46-18-553627 (home)



Re: driving those Fjords

1999-10-15 Thread HorseLotti
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Philis - I agree with you about the trust factor.  When I first got Sven I 
was not sure I trusted him and he very likely felt the same about me.  I 
spent alot of time on ground-work, grooming, leading, and just plain 
hanging-out with him -- by the time spring came we knew each other well and 
it has just gotten better from then.  I am now trying hard to learn to trust 
my QH outside an arena -- it is starting to pay-off and soon I may take him 
for a trail-ride.  You are also right about hard work and consistent work -- 
big payoff!!  

I, too,  enjoy hearing about all that folks do with their Fjords - from 
shows, competing, babies, trial rides, etc. -- 

Linda in MN - hope to go on a drive with Susan and Major tomorrow if the 
weather cooperates :)



Re: Racing stripes

1999-10-15 Thread Karen McCarthy

This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Gee, Misha,

WOW, upward transition to the MAX! Hang in there and be prepared for 
anything, even the wall of death, (just kiding folks...)
Perhaps its time to invest in some of that 'Saddle Tite' dressage queen 
glue!


Remember: less fur = more G's!

Karen

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Sultan the pony

1999-10-15 Thread Epona1971
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Lori-

I just love your story about Sultan! Looks like he found the right gal ; )

My friend and fellow pet sitter is leasing a Quarter Horse mare, a pretty 
buckskin (well of course I would prefer that, being partial to primitive 
colors...). This mare is not mistreated, but neglected by her owner who knows 
little about horses. My friend said when she was shown the horse, the owner 
took her out of the stall, saddled up and galloped her hard, then plopped her 
back in the stall all sweaty. No warm-up, no cool-down. Poor girl. Anyway, I 
have a feeling that my friend may become her new owner if the cards are 
right. It can happen.

Brigid