Re: hello???
This message is from: Carl Sarah Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy, the new address for the list is: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com be looking forward to your posts! Sarah Nagel -Original Message- From: Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:17 PM Subject: hello??? This message is from: Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this is the right address the message wasn't to clear on what address to post to. I tried [EMAIL PROTECTED] and got a help message back? Someone let me know! Amy
hello???
This message is from: Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this is the right address the message wasn't to clear on what address to post to. I tried [EMAIL PROTECTED] and got a help message back? Someone let me know! Amy
Re[2]: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean-- Wednesday, December 22, 1999, you wrote: Who is located where in reference to new commands on the list? I have disabled the who command on the new list as it was on the old list. I have done this to protect everyone's privacy from spammers who subscribe to mailing lists for the sole purpose of harvesting email addresses. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889)
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, look in your wlcome message and you will find the ddifferent commands. Eqvalan liquid is the brand of Ivermectin by Merck, and it is under prescription. My vet sold it to me for about twice what it is listed in KV vet supply, but I saved money on doing it myself. Apparently Ivomec 1 % injectable for cattle is the very same stuff, but not under prescription! The price in the K-V vet catalog is about the same per ML but EQVALAN comes in 100 ml bottles, IVOMEC comes in 50 and 200 ML bottles. 1 ml/110 lbs, or 10 ml for a 1100 lb horse. I use a 12 ml plastic syringe and squirt it onto the middle of the horse's tongue. They don't seem to spit it out like the paste! Glad you are having some dry weather...I would have preferred the 10 inches of snow they were warning us about, rather than this melting stuff and freezing rain! We're losing our insulation! Jean in Fairbanks, temp dropped to +39, but still dripping out there: all the pretty snow and frost has fallen off the trees! Jean, Two questions, Who is located where in reference to new commands on the list? And what is liquid ivermectin. Is it the same as for cows and injected? Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Secret Santa ring Busted!
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.theonion.com/onion3546/secret_santa_ring.html Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, Two questions, Who is located where in reference to new commands on the list? And what is liquid ivermectin. Is it the same as for cows and injected? I bought a bottle for the chickens and then chickened out!! Ahem. Jean PS it has been in the forties and dry for two days. Sheer heaven. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, just testing the new list. Lets TRY and make a fresh start and not turn every subject into a I dont agree with what your saying: pissing contest. It does the memory of June and Jean disgrace, to see what started as condolenses , turn into a big fued over where or where not we all go (animals included) when we leave this world. If you dont agree, you dont have to respond EVERY time, AND not every subject has to be beaten into the ground . OKAY NERVE WAS STRUCK i admit. And a little advice (given for free and unsolicited) A little sugar and humor always makes the words better May you all have a very merry Christmas and a Happy New year PS Lisa PeDerson, you have the right idea, i loved your post about the signature lines Michele Noonan Wild Hair Ranch Home of 4 children 6 horses 3 (wishing it was 2) dogs and 5 cats that all need fixing soon Havent done anything famous Home is under construction and my presents arent wrapped
Re: religious views
This message is from: Meredith Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whether you believe in the Lord in Heaven, Buddha, or the Kachina ... it's a wonderful world! Merry Christmas everybody! Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy TN USA ~ Dorina NFR Aagot ~
Re: Pledge Total
This message is from: Anne Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Count me in for a pledge , Steve. with many thanks, Anne in VA - Original Message - From: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fjord Horse List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 8:53 PM Subject: Pledge Total This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] The pledge total already stands at $57. I'll send a thank-you note to each person who pledges telling them where to send the money. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA People may talk of first love--but give me the flush, and triumph, and glorious sweat of a first ride. --George Borrow(1803-1881)
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, steve! Looks good to me? I see we can find out who is on the list? (the command wholist)? Again, thanks for all your work Steve..this list is important to me! I don't geel so isolated way up here in Fairbanks! The temp got up to +43 today and I got manes cut, and wormed everybody with liquid Eqvalan (ivermectin). Boy, that's much easier than using the paste! and my vet says its is more effective. Now, if I only could have gotten the farrier out to do their feet...first time in two months it has been warm enough, but the roads were slick sheets of ice, with freezing rain, frost building up on the cold pavement, etc. More freezing rain predicted. Then back to -10 to -30 Friday and Christmas! What crazy weather! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where we are GAINING daylight, even if it only half a minute! At 05:53 PM 12/22/1999 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let me initiate the new FjordHorse list by welcoming everyone. The switch-over seemed to go pretty smoothly to me. Please let me know right away if anyone has any problems. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889) Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: may the Fjorce be with you
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very nice message Ruthie and my hopes that you have a lovely Christmas and also for everyone else on the list. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Bad message
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think Topica is sending out notices saying people are being removed from the FjordHorse discussion list. Don't worry about it, it's coming from me dismantling that list. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA The hooves of the horses!--Oh! bewitching and sweet; Is the music earth steals from the iron-shod feet. -- Will H Ogilvie
Re: horses i heaven
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Linda and Daniel, very interesting re the Gods of old. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Bad message
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think Topica is sending out notices saying people are being removed from the FjordHorse discussion list. Don't worry about it, it's coming from me dismantling that list. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA The hooves of the horses!--Oh! bewitching and sweet; Is the music earth steals from the iron-shod feet. -- Will H Ogilvie
Re: horses i heaven
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, Jean, The eight legged horse is Sleipnir, and yes, ridden by Odhinn. Norse Mythology is full of horses; for example, the god, Freyr, gives his beloved horse away to gain the love of a beautiful giantess; The Valkyries ride horses throughout all their travels; the goddess Hel rides a three legged horse; and Freya and Skuld ride horses. These are the ones I remember off the top of my head, anyway. Interestingly enough, the horses ridden by the Valkyries are said to carry souls from Earth to the next world, hence, an afterlife. From a mythological/polytheistic viewpoint (most early polytheistic religions were also animistic), the question of whether or not an animal had a soul would be a moot point. All creatures were seen with souls, and all would be seen as going on to live in an afterlife. Hope this different prospective helps a bit! Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI http://hometown.aol.com/heithingi/BaileysNorwegianFjords.html
Welcome to the New List
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let me initiate the new FjordHorse list by welcoming everyone. The switch-over seemed to go pretty smoothly to me. Please let me know right away if anyone has any problems. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889)
Wonderful gift ! List woes.....ho ho ho's?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 99-12-21 06:02:24 EST, you write: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just a note to say I got my Santa gift on its way to the South of us here in Montana..Funny thing about the name thing, so close to mine. YES Patty Peterson from Libby..I recieved your package yesterday ! Except for you spelling your name WRONG ( Pedersen is correct VBG ) you are wonderful ! When I asked for tack, as mine has been burried in the move, I didnt expect ALL the tack that I ever neededI opened my box to find a gift pack of brush's, comb, hoof pick, curry, bathing mit. ect. ALSO there wasa the neatest tile of Norwegian welcome and a coffee mug with a Dala horse on it !WOW. Thank-you so much for all the great stuff, Patty.what fun, esp. of the picture of you and ( ? ) a beautiful mare at Libby with a grand ribbon of blue on her neck. I hope to meet you this next year at Libby, and please correct that name between now and then. ; ) Hi List ! I feel like such a loser today, I JUST mailed out all my x-mas cards, a few packages, my Santa Pals gift, ect.From one who usually sends out cards nearer to Halloween, I felt like it was Jan. 16th, and I was crawling into the PO to mail my tax's. Oh well, I guess its all relative and just the thought that counts( only LATE LOSERS SAY THAT ) So, hope you like your custom gift, Santa Pal, I can say that only you will recieve this EXACT gift, so enjoy! P.S. You may feel the need to DRY OUT from all the wet stuff you have been getting , so please come to dry, cool So. Utah for a visit. We will go hitch and play. Hint, Hint. Steve.on chat this week, was it you who mentioned that the cost of us contributing to the list was only going to be around 1 dollar? If so, sign me up. I get One-List for my Draft Horse digest form, and yes, it does run ad's after EVERY postmaking the total same ad seen by me around 30 times per day.very annoying to say the least, esp. when they love to copy everyones full prior message before sending a , I agree or a Really? ect. BUT : I will blindly follow wherever you take us..as your loyal subject should. If you build it, we will come. Maybe IF we end up at One-List, ( doning the flame retardant suit now ) we all could help by shortening our own sig. lines. There, I said it. The place where someone lives always interests me, but with 3 diff. lists I subscribe to,sometimes reading over and over the ad's, along with a multitide of repeat posts, then throw in a sig. line like. Max Farmer MD, EMT, ESPN, CNA, CPA Holder of the worlds best time for spinning a dog on a ladder / Guiness Book Of World Records Vol. 11. 1963 Special Ed. Rockville, Mn. USA ( available at IDIOT BOOK CLUB, Lansing, MI. ( 800-699-4431 ) when the dog's a spinning, the man's a winning Quoted by wife, Hilde, mom to future record holder, Bobbie, age 24, who, when let out on a day pass.practices for the tital. ** I know, Im a little over the top here, but tis the season to be crabby, and one can only read those just SO many times a day..see? Anyone who gets multiple lists per day, Digest form WITH ad's every 20 sec. or so will relate. Everyone else with big signature lines will just get mad. ( ducking ) ; ( Had another fun group for chat this weeksans Jackie, PAV Aussie, who seems to have blown up her computer for real this time ! Waaa, Jackie HELP ! Those speed greetings are not working well with my 2 fingered attempts. Hope you and everyone can find time to stop by next Sun. for a visit. We can all share what type of cookies we are eating, and how much weight we all gained over the weekend. Bye for now, Lisa Pedersen --note spelling. PAV FJORDS Cedar City, Ut.
Re: religious views
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/22/99 12:41:40 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i've asked you before, LIGHTEN UP! I apologized for snapping at you before under the stress of moving, etc. I didn't agree to give up all my opinions and behave the way you want me to. I suspect we'll never be best friends.Gail
The New List
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even as I write this everyone is being subscribed to the new list. You should all receive a new Welcome letter from the new list. Please notice that there are a few changes. The biggest of these is that there is no nomail command. This means that when your going on vacation you should use the form on the list Web site to turn your mail on and off. It also means that some people who had silent subscriptions to allow them to post from multiple addresses while receiving the list at only one address will have to start posting only from the address at which they receive the list. Sorry, I'll see if I can get this feature included at the new site, but it will take awhile. Other than that everything should be pretty much the same, except that messages should now go to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . If you don't get a Welcome message sometime this evening, please let me know so I can make sure you get on the new list. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA No whisper of lover, no trilling of birds, Can stir me as hooves of the horses have stirred. -- Will H Ogilvie
may the Fjorce be with you
This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] Probably the best appreciation we can ever give Steve for his List efforts is to behave ourselves =)). I've thought I sensed a blending, or melting, or what have you, in our posts these last few months. It's most apparent that many of us cherish our Fjord communication highly. If we cannot tolerate the intolerant, what's the diff? While our common denominator is the Fjord and we probably should confine ourselves to that topic of discussion I must say that I enjoyed all the many dog posts immensely and various sidelines. Trouble is, now I'm pining for a Swedish Vallhund! Darn! =)) I'm always glad for every letter and feel happy early morning when I see several waiting. I thank you all for sharing your lives with me. Ruthie Bushnell, NW MT
Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #312
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm replying to Ingrid about her daughters theology class. I'm 14 and If animals didn't have souls or a heaven then what makes us think we do. God has a place for all its creatures not just humans
Re: religious views
This message is from: linda hickam [EMAIL PROTECTED] ah yes..pc = nix the first amendment.if you're a Christian..merry CHRISTmas everyone and may God's love shine on us all.Linda.p.s.it's very easy to delete this message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: religious views Date: Wed, Dec 22, 1999, 3:08 PM This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/22/99 10:52:34 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Though not a theological scholar, I don't like this sort of thing. Not all Americans are Christian. What we agree on in the list is animals. Discussing religion and politics is tricky enough with friends much less strangers.
Re: religious views
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: not talking about religion with strangers: I kind of think we are not strangers and that we had already agreed to disagree and not be so strict about the topics. This one is about horses, although in a more abstract way.
Re: horses i heaven
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Denise, not to alarm you but fjords are stoic and do not show illness like most horses. So not eating is a sign of a problem , he may be plugged up. Listen to his gut sounds on each side of his belly. If there are no sounds or only on one side, call the vet. He will need mineral oil or . Also before calling the vet take his temp and be sure to hang on to the thermometer as they can suck it into the rectum. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: horses i heaven
This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] dear jean, not too many legs if odin wanted to go fast! big, sturdy fjord legs are a sight to behold, can never have too manytalking about horses; my knute is'nt up to par today. not much in the mood for playing around, did'nt even want to eat his daily apple, so quinny took it. no fever, just not his usual self. hope this is'nt the start of something. merry christmas, denise - Original Message - From: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjords [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 11:24 AM Subject: horses i heaven This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wasn't it Odin who rode the eight legged horse? That horse looks exactly like a fjord except for too many legs. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: religious views
This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] about the biblical quotes re: the horse and responses. if we are not careful this could start up another one of those bitch sessions...come on gail, i've asked you before, LIGHTEN UP! everyone is entitled the their opinion. i for one enjoyed reading the exerpts. you don't have to be christian to learn something from the bible. just like you don't have to be a nazi to learn something from mein kampf. take a few breaths and relax!!! denise in northern calif. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 11:08 AM Subject: Re: religious views This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/22/99 10:52:34 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Though not a theological scholar, I don't like this sort of thing. Not all Americans are Christian. What we agree on in the list is animals. Discussing religion and politics is tricky enough with friends much less strangers.
horses i heaven
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wasn't it Odin who rode the eight legged horse? That horse looks exactly like a fjord except for too many legs. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: religious views
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/22/99 10:52:34 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Though not a theological scholar, I don't like this sort of thing. Not all Americans are Christian. What we agree on in the list is animals. Discussing religion and politics is tricky enough with friends much less strangers.
Re: religious views
This message is from: Annette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Though not a theological scholar, I'll add my 2 cents to the current theological debate: 1st...there are the 4 horses of the Apocalypse; they come down from Heaven; white horse (Revelation 6:2; Rev. 19:1114), red horse (Revelation 6:4), black horse (Rev. 6:5), and a pale horse (Rev. 6:8). Whether they died first and went to Heaven or are created in Heaven isn't implied or stated...but, clearly, they're there. 2nd... Isaiah 11:6:9 and Isaiah 65:25 both talk about the way things will be when the Messiah establishes a new earth: The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them. The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox. The infant will play near the hole of the cobra and the young child put his hand into the viper's nest. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea. 3rd...Concerning the murder of man Genesis 9:5 says: And for your lifeblood I (God) will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each man, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of his fellow man. The assumption seems to be that animals answer in the next life, therefor, they must have a next life. 4th...Animals were created by God in the Garden of Eden and were declared Good by God BEFORE the fall of man. (Genesis 1:31) 5th...God uses animals in describing His own Son, Jesus...Lamb of God (Rev. 5:6, John 1:29) and the Lion of Judah (Revelation 5:5). While these are used figuratively, they imply that God holds animals in a place of favor. While not willing to be martyred for this facet of my beliefs, I do believe the above Scriptures provide a compelling argument for animals in Heaven. Annette Johnson (I haven't written any books) (My farm doesn't have a name) Colorado Springs, Colorado
Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #311
This message is from: Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] That brings tears to my eyes. It is sooo hard to say good-bye. Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR We too think of the day our coming 24 yr. old Ellinor will not be in our pasture. She came from Norway 1980, The Jacobsen's had her till 1984., then Forresters , till 1998 and now her place is with us. This will be her 9th baby. She is the queen, when I call the girls to me for the treats, her head high, on the run(maybe not as fast as the younger ones) and when she is waiting for her carrot her head on my shoulder saying I'll wait till the youngsters have their's We feel blessed that she is in foal with our Bjorn-Knutson. Our fingers are crossed till July. She is healthy, happy and can keep up with the young ones.. I am going to try to ride her one of these days.She has not had any thing done with her for many years. She is sad when Bud Amy saddle or harness up the others. I won,t push her into anything, just take it easy with her. I don't think she has forgotten anything she knew or done years ago. I to have used the Over the Rainbow Bridge Poem. Hurrah We will continue to have our List and Thanks to all that have made it possible.Steve you are Number 1.The Happest of Holidays to all. Tillie
Re: List must move
This message is from: Don Jane Brackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree Jeri! Jane in Maine Steve, by the time I got to the list read you had already covered this year's costs. However, I like both suggestions of paying you back and saving some for a list member's or fjord owner's rainy day. I want to contribute, do you truly want me to wait til next year??? Feels like cheating!!! Jeri in Missouri
Re: List!!!Hold on!!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/21/99 8:48:19 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you please try out onelist.com. He's done enough. 32 cents a person is not a big bit and since you can't make a check out for 32 cents, some of us will be happy to do a bit extra. It is kind of like PBS pledge, I have sure already gotten my money's worth even if I were paying half or the whole thing.
Pledge drive wrap-up
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pledge acknowledgments have been sent along with premiums. If you pledged and don't receive yours, please let me know. I apologize to anyone running a Mac that the premium will be useless, but hey, it's a Wintel world. Anyway, we had enough folks pledge that I was able to tell many to cut back on their contribution. I've picked up the tab for the list up until now because I wanted to, and I don't need compensation. Mike's idea is interesting, but I don't see myself as administrator of the Widows and Orphans fund. So if we just spread it around amongst those who have pledged and cover the expenses, I'm more than happy. Thanks, all! Have a very happy holiday season! -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA It's never the horse, it's always the rider. --Old Cavalry Adage
Re: Re[2]: List!!!Hold on!!!
This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] WE'VE HIT OUR PLEDGE GOAL!!! NO MORE PLEDGES NEEDED!!! Digest subscribers get off scot free, since they don't know anything about this yet. Thank you all who pledged. I'll send you notes in the morning. I will publish all these people's names next year so everyone will know whose turn it isn't. Thanks to everyone!! Was just getting ready to enter my pledge after reading my morning mail. Publishing the names of this year's contributors next year is a great idea. That way we can all take our turn sponsoring the List. Thanks for all your hard work, Steve. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: parasites cross-species?
This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got a question for those of you whose barnyard includes non-equines. What problems do equines have with parasites/diseases from other species? the other is smaller and tightly fenced, but currently overstocked with sheep, goats, a llama, and who knows what else. I don't know enough about these other critters to assess their health, but the density of critters brings to mind Murphy. What are the potential problems, and what might I do to lessen any risks? Everyone will tell you that lice are specific to each breed/class of animal. That is, llama lice don't like horses and visa versa. BUT for the past several years Line has had a good case of lice every spring. She is the only one of our horses who ever has them AND she is the only one whose pen is in the same woods with the neighbors' llamas. These llamas have become increasingly unkempt the past couple of years, and I suspect they are the source of Line's problem. The lice she gets don't look like any lice I've ever seen on a horse before - more like the ones sheep sometimes have. So there you have it - I suspect that lice might be a problem you could encounter, especially if the animals currently residing in that enclosure are overcrowded and not taken care of. I am not aware of any other parasites or diseases which transfer from sheep, llamas, goats, etc., to horses. That would be a question for a veterinarian. We have had all three around us at different times and have had no problems, other than the lice. The llamas have all been sold this winter, so it will be interesting to see what happens with Line next spring. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: New Home for List
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/22/99 4:26:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something like keeping it in an account to donate to some of the members when they are in need. Seems like horse people have some of the damnedest luck some times. There is something wonderful about most horsepeople. Last week a friend's young filly got her mouth around a chain link fence and ripped her teeth out. Her adult teeth are compromised and her mouth was just a mess. The owner is a woman who puts her heart and soul and all her cash into her horses, but she doesn't have a lot of cash (she gives her services for free quite often). Lisa, you know her. It's Julie. The filly needed surgery. No ifs ands or buts. Julie took the filly in, but wasn't sure how she would pay. But knowing her she'd find a way. The ladies on my other horse email list heard this and without her knowledge offered to chip in, $20 here, $50 there. One of the ladies is putting the whole bill on her credit card, when Julie goes to pick up her filly this morning she will find the bill has been paid. We will reimburse the card holder for some expenses and Julie will reimburse for more. I don't know. It's horsepeople, the spirit of Christmas or what, but I'm amazed at the generosity of horsepeople. Oh yes, somehow I missed out on hearing the decision that Steve would keep paying for the list? I missed out on that and since I benefit from the knowledge here, would gladly pay my fair share. Pamela
RE: List must move
This message is from: Jeri L Rieger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve, by the time I got to the list read you had already covered this year's costs. However, I like both suggestions of paying you back and saving some for a list member's or fjord owner's rainy day. I want to contribute, do you truly want me to wait til next year??? Feels like cheating!!! Jeri in Missouri
Re: New Home for List
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 05:07 PM 12/21/99 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list will be free of advertising, and it will have 10Mb of disk space for archives. The cost for this is going to be $100 per year. Excellent choice Steve! I have sent my pledge to you privately. When do you want the check and who do you want it made out to? Something like a PBS or NPR fund drive. People can send pledges directly to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll keep the list apprised of how we're doing on meeting the goal. At the end I'll publish the names of all who contributed unless they ask to remain anonymous. I think this should work, I only wish it didn't come at such an already costly time of year. How about doing something a little special with the extra you are obviously going to get? Something like keeping it in an account to donate to some of the members when they are in need. Seems like horse people have some of the damnedest luck some times. I don't have ideas on how to manage it or who would qualify for the funds but it is just a thought. Mike