Re: naming the filly...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Rollins) Our new filly is a precious gift and has already made going out to the barn and doing chores more fun! She is a delight and has already had many visitors. I am so pleased with her and it's easy to see she already is quite lovely, well proportioned, gorgeous head, nice straight legs, all the right stuff.:). My vet was very pleased with her too. I have decided to call her Cornerstone's Skjonnhet. According to my Norwegian friend it is pronounced Shonet and it means beauty. I had been having fun researching through my new Norwegan dictionary and picking words I liked. I have lots of others to consider when our next foal arrives from our Gjest daughter Agneta. Oh, I know lots of folks like to keep track of bloodlines and I should mention that our filly is out of Budeia, a Gromar daughter and by Penfrydd's Raynor, a Kongard son. Agneta's foal is by Trinity's Samstein, a Sambar son. We will be bringing the foals to Libby this coming Sept if all goes well and will see lots of you there in person. Happy, healthy foaling everyone and thanks for allowing me to share my good news!:) I will look forward to all the birth announcements to come... Kathleen Rollins, Cornerstone Fjords, Deer Park, WA. (just north of Spokane)
More Fjords on Tv
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay Who sent the Fjord footage into the Planet's funniest animals? All week as ive been recuperating, Ive seen a fjord three times on that show. Today the clip was of a lady petting a Fjord when a weanling Fjord comes up and literally starts eating her shirt, little by little, until half her t-shirt was in his mouth and then it was TUG OF WAR to get it out, while she is at the mercy of this strong little guy PS I think the crocodile hunter on that network should be eaten too!! I NEVER let my kids watch that show I was so excited to see a full headshot of a Fjord on Tv. About the only excitement in my life right now Doctor said probably atleast 6-8 weeks before I'll be able to tolerate a saddle on that tail bone of mine Oh well, back to boring old TV Michele Noonan STevensville, Montana
Fjord Buckboard on EBay?
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a buckboard for sale on EBay and it is shown with a team of Fjords hitched to it! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=273409294 Location: New Milford, PA Who's Fjords? Nice buckboard, wish it were in Alaska. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, who has discovered EBay and can't get off this computer! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Selling young horses to inexperienced people
This message is from: Nancy Hotovy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carole - I really agree with your post on the older horses. Steady, well trained Fjords are definitely in high demand but I never, never, never recommend someone buy a young, untrained colt unless they have had previous horse experience. I find it's definitely not fair to my colts. Ours are handled, vaccinated, wormed, feet trimmed, etc. starting at Day 1, however, no matter how good the intentions are, a buyer that has very limited horse experience will have a high chance of ruining the colt. These Fjords are very smart and inexperienced people will start out letting them have their way in little things and the little things grow into bigger things and pretty soon they will call and wonder what happened to their sweet little colt. Or, they sell him to another green person who only reinforces the bad habits and pretty soon you have a dangerous horse on your hands. Now these people do not ruin this colt intentionally. In fact, most have the best intentions in the world, but horses are not puppies and when they misbehave it can be very dangerous. Now, I have a colt out there carrying the name of my farm that is less than desirable. Very bad advertising! I don't believe the best bloodlines and temperament in the world will guarantee that inexperienced people can make it the dependable horse they desire. It takes much work and much knowledge, otherwise anyone could be a trainer. I know there are a lot of opinions out there and mine is just one of many but I feel it's my responsibility to make sure the foals we produce have their best chance at a good life and that means not putting a young horse with an inexperienced owner. To change the subject, Lynn Miller is one of my husband's heroes and when his publications The Small Farmer's Journal comes in the mail, I totally lose my husband until he has read it cover to cover. We have to save every one, so if anyone needs a place to stay when traveling through don't be surprised with what our spare bedroom's closet is full of!! I just heard that Lynn Miller put out a book of all kinds of plows and there are a few pictures of Rich and his Fjords plowing! I just ordered it for his birthday in a few weeks. Since he is a definite non computer person, I can say this on the list and not worry about ruining his surprise. A good day to all. Nancy The Upper Forty
RE: Lynn Miller
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do have to agree with Candy's comments on Lynn. I've had the pleasure of working for Lynn for almost 4 years now, and have learned so much from him. He really does have a way with horses that's wonderful to watch. And what's really great is to see how his own horses respond to him; it's nothing short of beautiful! There is definitely a strong relationship of mutual trust! Amy
Re: private exchanges/Tlgtn-Jones stuff.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/9/00 2:45:56 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can think someone else sent you something privately - and Reply - only to find it was from the list. No horror - until you get your message back...from the List. Oh, well - To err is human. Teaches us to be nice all the time. :) And to tolerate others' mistakes, I hope. :) Not to mention I enjoyed listening. On the Linda Tellington-Jones stuff, my old trainer used it exclusively, more than I wanted, but a lot of it was very good. Some of it was the gum stuff, but there's also a thing you do with stroking the ears from the base up with your hand that distracts them from medical things or things they don't like. It really works and puts them right to sleep. Gail-Dorine
Hand in mouth
This message is from: Laurie Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm trying to envision. Sort of like grabbing the upper jaw, with fingers pointing UP - on the upper lip/muzzle, and the pad part of the thumb on the roof of the mouth? Hi Gail, No, that would be kind of scary, wouldn't it. : ) What you do is just slip you thumb into the mouth from the side, were there are no teeth, and press up on the pallet. Like I said, it worked great for me in halter classes to quietly correct my gelding if he had dropped. Laurie
Re: technological goofs
This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just thought I'd share a horrible experience I had with my cell phone. First I had had several experiences, where people told me they'd picked up their phone only to hear me conversing with someone and not being able to get my attention. I gave it no real attention. THEN one day, having lunch with an industry client, I let loose about how badly GOVT pays, in terms of timing .. demanding their tax up front, and letting two months go by before coming up with what they owe (unlike industry who, in my experience, pay immediately).. then I launched into a diatribe about a particular govt client who insisted I provide him with the table of contents for a report I hadn't yet researched or written, as part of the terms of reference for a contract (height of the ridiculous to me) .. and more in that tone. In the midst of which, my cell phone (which usually never leaves my car, but happened to be having lunch with us that day) rang .. I answered, explained I was busy, hung up immediately. Continued the rant. THEN I sauntered off to meet that very client I'd been talking about. Guess what! I arrived to find him beet red, pointing at the phone and saying listen to this, listen to this .. and sure enough, there was my conversation, verbatim, recorded on his voice mail .. when I ended the conversation over lunch, on the phone, I hit send not end and it sent the next five minutes of my conversation right to that client's number (which I'd dialed just before lunch ..it did the redial thing). SO .. guess who has thrown out that particular piece of hardware and is VERY careful that she has pushed the END button. Fair warning to all .. don't know if it's worse than sending an incriminating message to 250 people on the list, but my stomach still churns when I think of having to deal with the repercussions of pushing THAT wrong button! Yuk!
Re: Warning
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Merideth. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: Warning
This message is from: Meredith Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does just viewing it on your screen trigger the invasion? Or do you have to click on an html in the message? You have to click on an icon in the body of the e-mail message to pick up the worm/virus. Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA Dorina NFR Aagot
Re: Warning
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike on Outlook express how do you delete a message before it is displayed? In other words is there a way to delete a virus message before looking at it? Does just viewing it on your screen trigger the invasion? Or do you have to click on an html in the message? Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: bits/heavy hands
This message is from: Debby Stai [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would agree with this, if you have heavy hands then a harsher bit will not help, except! I do have an Arab that would get nervous on the trail, and when we'd trot or canter, he would be hard to stop, especially if he thought he was being left behind. In the arena he is very quiet but comes to life on the trail. I borrowed and have since bought a D-ring rubber lowport with a curb chain. The advantage was that I didn't have to hold on to him anymore. If he decided to take off or not stop, the ever so lightest touch on my reins and he came down. No pulling. I could ride with a relaxed rein. He understood this and so did I. It worked for us and I'm considering using it when I drive Amber cross country. Sometimes knowing you have a bit that works will help you both relax. Have a great day. Debby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/6/00 9:06:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is probably a stupid question,but here goes. If there is 100% info on bits,I know 5%.I am wondering if there is a traditional or common bit used for riding Fjords.I have been using a Eggbutt snaffle,but don't feel that I have the best control that I could.I am trail riding only and have heavy hands.I would welcome any suggestions. Thanks,Ellen Hi Ellen- First, as I'm sure everyone else will remind you, there's no such thing as a stupid question. I've only owned Fjords one year and believe me, I still have many questions! Despite my lack of experience, I'm opinionated on bits. Heavy hands is a problem I'm also getting over. It has taken many successful rides for me to relax my death grip and start gently guiding my horses with legs and a little rein. Because of this problem, I have fanatically stuck with mild snaffles. Remember, the bit or other equipment is only as good as the hands that hold it. A pro can use (almost) any bit she likes without hurting the horse. However, it's too easy for a non-pro to get into the severe bit syndrome, that is, buying harsher and harsher bits as the horse fails to respond to each one. The eggbutt snaffle is a favorite, provided it's smooth (not twisted) and broken in the middle. No, you won't have a lot of control with this bit, but what is control really? Is it a painful emergency brake in the form of a piece of metal in the horse's mouth? No. It's the partnership between you and your horse, the respect and trust he has for you. The types of bits I use are (help me out here, bit experts) a D-ring snaffle w/copper inlay, and an eggbutt snaffle with copper rollers. My horses take these bits readily and carry them in a relaxed manner. Ellen, have you visited the clicker training web site? If not, here's the link... A HREF=http://www.angelfire.com/az/clickryder/home.html;ClickRyder --Clicker Training for Horses, Mules, Donkeys/A . Good info on fun, easy training you can do by yourself. For me anyway, the clicker is my emergency brake. Hope this helps, Brigid
bits/heavy hands
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/6/00 9:06:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is probably a stupid question,but here goes. If there is 100% info on bits,I know 5%.I am wondering if there is a traditional or common bit used for riding Fjords.I have been using a Eggbutt snaffle,but don't feel that I have the best control that I could.I am trail riding only and have heavy hands.I would welcome any suggestions. Thanks,Ellen Hi Ellen- First, as I'm sure everyone else will remind you, there's no such thing as a stupid question. I've only owned Fjords one year and believe me, I still have many questions! Despite my lack of experience, I'm opinionated on bits. Heavy hands is a problem I'm also getting over. It has taken many successful rides for me to relax my death grip and start gently guiding my horses with legs and a little rein. Because of this problem, I have fanatically stuck with mild snaffles. Remember, the bit or other equipment is only as good as the hands that hold it. A pro can use (almost) any bit she likes without hurting the horse. However, it's too easy for a non-pro to get into the severe bit syndrome, that is, buying harsher and harsher bits as the horse fails to respond to each one. The eggbutt snaffle is a favorite, provided it's smooth (not twisted) and broken in the middle. No, you won't have a lot of control with this bit, but what is control really? Is it a painful emergency brake in the form of a piece of metal in the horse's mouth? No. It's the partnership between you and your horse, the respect and trust he has for you. The types of bits I use are (help me out here, bit experts) a D-ring snaffle w/copper inlay, and an eggbutt snaffle with copper rollers. My horses take these bits readily and carry them in a relaxed manner. Ellen, have you visited the clicker training web site? If not, here's the link... A HREF=http://www.angelfire.com/az/clickryder/home.html;ClickRyder --Clicker Training for Horses, Mules, Donkeys/A . Good info on fun, easy training you can do by yourself. For me anyway, the clicker is my emergency brake. Hope this helps, Brigid
Re: Buying/Selling Fjordhorses -
This message is from: linda hickam [EMAIL PROTECTED] WOW Lori what a great book list.and what great reviews...and to think the first book on it is written by my good friend Caroline Nessbitt! small world.when I was reading Jean Gayles web site guest book I saw a name of a person I used to show with.30 years ago! and I got in touch w/her! sorry for reminiscing.again I say atta girl Lori and thanks. -- From: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Buying/Selling Fjordhorses - Date: Thu, Mar 9, 2000, 10:50 AM This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol, you mention some good books. What would you recommend? What would others on the list recomment, and why? Hi Candy, I have posted book reviews of many of the books in my horse library, you can check out my recommendations at http://www.bluebirdlane.com/libframe.htm I also read Lynn Millers Training Workhorses book and found it very interesting, esp his stories of telepathic behaviour in horses. He sounds like quite the horseman. Lori Albrough Moorefield, Ontario
Re: chiropractor
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/6/00 2:46:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 4, how the horse is ridden: I see many stiff horses because the riders pull too much in the horses mouths without using their legs first. They are being ridden backwards instead of forwards and there will probably be still some other causes, like a horse that has hurt himself, had a fall or whatever. Thanks Marion! This is definitely a problem for me. Good news is, every time I ride I am more relaxed and lose my death-grip on the reins : ) I'm finally getting the concept of light contact. Brigid
Re: Buying/Selling Fjordhorses -
This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol, you mention some good books. What would you recommend? What would others on the list recomment, and why? Hi Candy, I have posted book reviews of many of the books in my horse library, you can check out my recommendations at http://www.bluebirdlane.com/libframe.htm I also read Lynn Millers Training Workhorses book and found it very interesting, esp his stories of telepathic behaviour in horses. He sounds like quite the horseman. Lori Albrough Moorefield, Ontario
Re: Buying/Selling Fjordhorses -
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Carol. This was a terrific post, and mirrored much of the advice I received this past weekend. I attended the New York State Draft Horse Club's Draft Horse Short Course at Cornell U. this past weekend. Lynn Miller of Small Farmer's Journal was there leading much of the demonstration.Along with workshops on nutrition, colic, lameness, etc were harnessing demonstrations, shoeing, chances to drive a Suffolk, Belgians, Percherons... unfortunately no Fjords. One of the club members arranged for Lynn to do a round pen training demonstration on Monday morning.It was excellent. Many of the points made in this post were made by Lynn. He said that he used to recommed that beginners get an older well broke team to start, but now he often recommends buying yearlings and raising them up yourself, for many of the same reasons mentioned. You grow together, you know everything that's happened to that horse.You and the horse have bonded by the time you need to work together. I feel that's one of the reasons why our two Fjords are so patient and calm. The previo! ! us owner had bought them as yearlings and raised them himself, with excellent results. During Lynn's training session, he talked about the very real significance of 'baby steps'. For example, Lynn was able to pick up the 'trainee' horse's foot for just a second or so, and put it down. The significance of this is not that he was unsuccessful at picking up the foot and holding it as long as he wanted, (the final goal, as it were) but that he decided when to put the foot down, not the horse. Lynn made the claim that horses are telepathic, they know what you are thinking. For this reason, you need to approach the training and handling of the horse with confidence, in a very matter of fact way. Lynn said that he prefers not to know anything about a horse he works with in the pen, and suggested pretending that you don't know the horse. That way you're not thinking thoughts like 'he always kicks when I do this', that the horse picks up on, and of course... Lynn took a 65 foot long rope with a ring braided into the end, looped some of the rope through the rin! ! g, and put it over the horse's neck, He then proceeded to wiggle it back and forth, swing it up over the horse's back, let it fall over the other side and put pressure on various parts of the horse's body. The purpose of the ring at the end is that the rope won't ever cinch tight, the horse will feel the rope but is not restrained. He kept enough tension on the rope to keep it from falling or dragging, but went with the horse's movements to avoid pulling or restraint. The idea was to continue this until the horse stops reacting, and says 'OK, this is not that bad'. He described this as teaching the horse courage. One goal here was to have the rope touch all the areas that a harness would touch, where a loose tug or rein might fall, etc.Lynn was able to put a collar and harness on a young mare that was only halter trained after 30 - 45 minutes or so. She stood quietly for it. In his talk on Friday evening, Lynn talked about the tremendous growth potential he sees in the work horse industry. Along with this he stressed the responsibility experienced horse people have to help those starting out, both to help prevent accidents and injury due to mistakes, and to help fuel the growth that Lynn sees is possible. Every beginner that successfully realizes his dream of working with horses is testimony to others who have the same dream. Carol, you mention some good books. What would you recommend? What would others on the list recomment, and why? Sorry to go on so long, but it was just so exciting to read this post after hearing so many of the same things this weekend. Someday I will buy a pair of Fjord yearlings. Candy Sloma Laughing Crow Farm Maine, NY
