Re: muscling

2000-07-24 Thread GailDorine
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My trainer says that muscling would be the worst thing to do with them.  Riba 
tends to be a little opinionated (we're a good match that way) and she just 
makes it easier for her to do the right thing than the wrong thing and then, 
whenever she gets it right, she stops the lesson real soon, letting her know 
that there's a reward for being good.  It's 107 here today so no riding at 
all.
  Thanks for the points, too, Karen.  I love that kind of post.
Gail in Las Cruces



Re: Hans Out's Website

2000-07-24 Thread Mike May

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At 06:56 AM 7/24/00 -0800, you wrote:

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Check out the website of Hans Out in Norway, Lots of pictures of fjords as
well as Norwegian Harness, carriage info, etc.  Hans, are you on this fjord
 list?


How about a URL for it Jean?







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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #198

2000-07-24 Thread Sue Harrison
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The old boot'em
 around tactics just don't cut it anymore! I keep telling my students that
if
 you want to move a fjords quarters around, pretend you are a fly landing
on
 their side. They notice RIGHT away, whereas, when you push and muscle
them,
 they want to re-vert to being horsey sumo wrestlers with you, and push
INTO
 you. The same applies to backing, etc. always ask as lightly as possible.


Hi Karen:  How does this apply when you are leading a very bossy yearling
with a mind of his own?
Hubby was out working with Storm tonight and had a chain under his chin (He
refuses to budge or else wants to throw his head and go where he wants)
without it.  They didn't do too badly except Storm would attempt to bow his
neck and take off if he could.  He also tends to crowd.  When standing he
takes the leadline or chain ...whatever he can get hold of...into his mouth.
If you take off the leadline and attempt to lead him  with just the halter
he will try to bite...(while refusing to move. )He got his mouth slapped
tonight for the open mouth act.  ...when I attempt to lead.. he .tries to
nip and refuses to budge unless I slap him lightly with the leadline and
pull...then off we go with him trying to go too fast and get the upper hand.
After that,  I decided I had better let my husband do the training. We just
wonder what is the best approach with this.  We have had horses for years
but none have acted exactly like this guy.  He just does not want to lead
without balking and being  headstrong...tho much much better to handle since
he was gelded in May.  At least now he can be controlled. When we finished
his little training session, he ran to the barn and in his stall. (There
were mosquitots bothering us all)  We made over him after and gave him
treats.  Any suggestions anyone?  He does back up well. (:
Sue in N. B.  (Desert Storms mom}




Re: Hans Out's Website

2000-07-24 Thread Jean Ernest
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Gee, I guess I forgot to paste the website address in the message!  I meant
to!  Well here it is:
http://home.online.no/~hebden/carriagehistor/History1.htm

click on the menu at the left to find Fjords, etc.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska


Hi Jean,
Could you give me that web site?  I just don't know all the ways to find
it on
my own and would like to see what you are talking about.  Thank you.

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Built FJORD tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond





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Re: Hans Out's Website

2000-07-24 Thread Jean Ernest
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It looks like a pack saddle to me! one that you could also rid in if
necessary (not very comfortable) but with the breeching, and breast collar
it must be a pack saddle.  I wish he had some explantion written somewhere .

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska,  Farrier just left, two shoeings and two trims,
everybody done! $140

http://home.online.no/~hebden/carriagehistor/History1.htm


If you click on the page Voss, what kind of saddle is that?

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Re: riding 2 year olds

2000-07-24 Thread GailDorine
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In a message dated 7/24/00 9:11:34 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 lthough, the guy who breeds
 them here, breaks them to ride as 2 yearolds.  Guess it will depend on size
 disposition etc. 
I think it depends on how fast you want your money out of them and if you 
care if they stay sound for life.  I see people do all kinds of horrible 
things to horses.  All the professionals I respect don't ride their horses at 
two.  It costs a lot of money to feed, medicate and shoe a horse for a year 
and if it's a business, some people push it. Gail in NM



Re: Hans Out's Website

2000-07-24 Thread Meredith Sessoms
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This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://home.online.no/~hebden/carriagehistor/History1.htm


If you click on the page Voss, what kind of saddle is that?

...  Meredith Sessoms
...  Tooksend Art
...  Moulton . Alabama . USA




Re: Back in harness again!

2000-07-24 Thread Jean Gayle
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Glad to hear you are back at it again Cynthia, Jean






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Re: exercises for Turlock show

2000-07-24 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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Thanks Karen, for the explanation.  Perhaps you can clarify further:

And what are your seat bones doing during all this?  The one time I got a
really good turn on the *forehand* was when I reached down with my  inside
leg - put my weight down on the inside side  and planted my seat bone in
the long muscle of the back on that side - and then pushed the horse's back
away with that seat bone.  This was a lot different than lightly squeeze
with the inside leg.  It seemed pretty brutal on the horse - and there was
really not a lot he could do but comply - but it worked.  It seems that the
amateur rider can easily err when squeezing with the inside leg by
*lifting* that leg - which picks the seat bone up off the horse's back on
that side AND, plants the outside seat bone into the horse's back muscle.
Seems to me this would just be counterproductive.

Am I explaining this right?  Do I correctly perceive that there is a
principle that is not usually stated along with the instruction to squeeze
with the inside leg - that the seat bone on that same side will follow the
leg, and also squeeze the horse's back on that side - instead of just
(from the horse's point of view) disappearing up into your body.  

OF course, you are talking about a turn on the hindquarters - so the seat
bone may need to be doing something entirely different than with a turn on
the forehand.

Gail


Say you want the front end to move around the hindquarters to the 
right.(Turn on the haunches.)
Place your left leg just behind girth area, supporting with your outside 
(right) leg. Pick up the contact on the outside (right) rein, and lightly 
squeeze in time to the movement of the inside (left) leg, and support with 
the inside (left) rein. Don't pull back too much, just keep a nice, firm 
contact, all the while nudging with the outside (left) leg. Try to do small 
segments first - don't try to do more than a 1/4 of a turn at a time. Just 
keep building on the small things. I use a fence to start them on this 
stuff: either planting the horse at a right angle facing the fence and 
moving the hindquarters around, and vice versa, with their butt to the 
fence, moving the front end across the hind quarters. I do this kind of work 
in between work on the rail for transitons, and I do it alot out on trail.
Hope this helps, it's kinda hard to convey in writing what can be better 
shown in person.

Good luck,
Karen


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To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: exercises for Turlock show
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:30:19 EDT

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OK all you Turlock veterans-

What can I practice at home, to prepare for the show? Riding certain
patterns, on the rail, obstacles?

Our back and sidepass definitely need work! I have no problem moving their
hindquarters around, but the front end does not want to move sideways. Any
suggestions?

Brigid


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Re: Hans Out's Website

2000-07-24 Thread carol j makosky
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Jean Ernest wrote:

 This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Check out the website of Hans Out in Norway, Lots of pictures of fjords as
 well as Norwegian Harness, carriage info, etc.  Hans, are you on this fjord
  list?

 Note the white dun stallion being introduced to the mares in the fjord
 section! I wonder what his name is?


 Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, Partly sunny after showers yesterday.


 
 Jean Ernest
 Fairbanks, Alaska
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Hi Jean,
Could you give me that web site?  I just don't know all the ways to find it on
my own and would like to see what you are talking about.  Thank you.

--
Built FJORD tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond





Re: Hans Out's Website

2000-07-24 Thread Karen McCarthy

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Jean,
I agree ! This is a really neat site. I found it thru a link on the 
Norwegian Fjord site (Norway). Looks like he really knows his harness and 
vehicles. There was really no information I could find about HIM.

Has anyone met this gentleman on a trip to Norway?

Karen
Carson City,NV

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Hans Out's Website

2000-07-24 Thread Jean Ernest
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Check out the website of Hans Out in Norway, Lots of pictures of fjords as
well as Norwegian Harness, carriage info, etc.  Hans, are you on this fjord
 list?


Note the white dun stallion being introduced to the mares in the fjord
section! I wonder what his name is?
 

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, Partly sunny after showers yesterday.

  

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Warts

2000-07-24 Thread Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/UNEBR
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Warts are caused by a virus. Mostly they occur in young horses, but they will
crop up in an older horse if they have never been exposed before. They will go
away, your  horse is then permanently immune and warts never reoccur again - it
may take a while (several months). Just be patient. You can try all the remedies
and folk cures, but they go away in the same amount of time!

Cynthia Madden
Omaha, Nebraska USA
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Back in harness again!

2000-07-24 Thread Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/UNEBR
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For the first time in two months, since I broke my wrist, I harnessed up Tank
with some help from Steve and we went for a drive. Our new facility has great
roads for driving and it was such a pleasure to watch that Fjord butt going down
the road again. I went out again on Sunday with some help from the kids at the
barn. It is wonderful to be able to hitch up and go again. Tank behaved
beautifully after such a long layoff. I am sorry we are missing Blue Earth!

Cynthia Madden
Omaha, Nebraska USA
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