plantar fascitis and pain
This message is from: "McInvailles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Sue and Tish, Hopefully by now, your bodies are not in as much pain as previously... For acute injured areas: ice for 20 minutes (not too long or it will cause swelling...akin to frostbite) and do this 3 times a day. Gently stretch sore muscles to prevent tightening. Ibuprofen (Motrin, Advil) is more effective for pain relief if taken with Tylenol. They work on different pain pathways and are actually better than either individually. You are right that Ibuprofen can irritate your stomach, so take it with food. It is dose dependent (more mg's more misery likely). You can substitute longer acting "non-steroidal" such as Aleve (Naprosyn) which last eight to twelve hours and often have less stomach irritation (still take with food). For plantar fascitits, it may help to use a gel pad in your shoes. Avoid walking long distances on uneven ground. It is an overuse injury and often associated with bone spur. It takes a long time to heal...6 weeks to 6 months, depending on severity and how kind you are to yourself. always remember, if things don't seem to be healing, see someone about it. If you are more inclined to herbal/homeopathic remedies, try arnica for an acute injury. Remember, no food for 20 minutes after taking it. No coffee for 24 hrs at least. Hope it is helpful. Nothing beats someone actually taking a look, though. Krissy, north of Mt. Washington in the rain. time to go out to my fjord buddies :) (physician assistant)
Re: Horsin Around contact
This message is from: carol j makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bushnell's wrote: > This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi, > > could someone please give me a contact for "Horsin Around" equine movers on > the west coast please? > > I just used the archives and didn't get anywhere, found references of Gayle > Ware and Peg Knutsen referring them, but nothing definite. > > you can private e-mail if you wish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> but be > sure and get that SECOND H in there =)) > > thanks, Ruthie, NW MT Hi Ruthie, Horsein Around has an ad in Equus. Their # is 800-234-4675. That is the only one for them. No email. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond
Horsin Around contact
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, could someone please give me a contact for "Horsin Around" equine movers on the west coast please? I just used the archives and didn't get anywhere, found references of Gayle Ware and Peg Knutsen referring them, but nothing definite. you can private e-mail if you wish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> but be sure and get that SECOND H in there =)) thanks, Ruthie, NW MT
fjordhorse-digest V2000 #217
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi from Bangor Maine. I am new to the list. I have one 8 year old Fjord gelding who wants desperatly to go to the Fjord Show in Vermont. But alas we cannot get a program. Numerous calls and e mails to the contact person have been in vain. Now one would think that persons running a horseshow would like more people to come to the show so that more money could be made, and a good turnout always promotes a good show. I have spent money on getting my horses shots updated, a current coggins test done, and health certificate, and reserved a room. It would be nice to know how much the stall rentals are, how much the classes are to enter, and what is expected in the classes so that one could decide which classes to enter. I ran horseshows for years in Massachusetts and i cannot understand why programs cannot be mailed to people timely. Anyway "yoyo" (my Fjord) and I are thinking we may just stay home, it is apparent that the persons running the show don't care if they get participants or not. One more try.. How about a class list? Sorry my first listing is on a sour note.
Woodstock Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi list, I don't know where else to voice this...so I'm doing it hear. It is now going on Aug. 17th, and I have yet to get a show list. I've sent e-mails, to the proper people... my friend has placed many calls (all to answering machinesand not returned) What do we need to do to get a show list??? We were really looking forward to bringing our horses this year to this showand I'm deeply disappointed already! What does a person have to do to get one before the DAY of the show Aimee Day
Libby Fires
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On today's Forest Service fire map http://www.fs.fed.us/r1/kootenai/fire/ it appears that there are quite a few fires north and west of Libby. Further, it appears that most of these fires have no personnel committed as yet. Could some of the local folks let us know if the fires are going to have any detrimental effect on the show. Cynthia and I have been planning on coming up there for the show, so I've been keeping pretty close tabs on the USFS fire reports, but I know sometimes things can look worse on a map than they truly are. Patty here in Libby, Will try and get you up to speed on our fire situation. Most of the fires are to the North and West of us, closer to Troy which is 18 miles west and up in the Yaak. At this time there are 167 fires burning. They only show the largest 90 on the map, of the 90, 33 of them have crews on them. They go after the ones that are a threat to lives and personal property first, but firefighters are really streached thin. None of the fires are in the Libby area, yet, more storms are expected by the weekend, dry lightening. It was really smokey in town yesterday until the afternoon winds picked up and cleared out the valley, good for us, bad for the fires. So far everything is on schedule for the show, Still working on arena after a redeo we had here, but nothing major. There are a few changes that alot of you will appreciate, some you may not, but the County had been really busy. Hope to see you in September. Patty
Re: clicker treats
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A quote from Alexandra's clicker Website: This sort of simply explains how the clicker works. "With most horses I begin by teaching the horse to touch his nose to a target. I use a small plastic cone, but the lid off a supplement container will work just as well. The object here is just to condition the horse to the clicker and teach him the connection between behavior and treats. He's going to learn that mugging the vending machine (you) to get treats doesn't work, but he can get the vending machine to work by simply performing certain behaviors. The clicker is the key to all this. When you add the bridging signal, you gain control of goodies. Without it, the horse has no rules. He never knows when you might have a carrot, so is it any surprise that he's constantly checking out your pockets or nibbling at your hands? Without the bridging signal food is a distraction to good training. With it, it becomes a powerful motivator that can produce outstanding performance, and enthusiastic, can-do horses." *** >Here's a pretty comprehensive website for any of you interested in getting >started in clicker training. Not everybody's cup of tea, but it is a nice >tool to have at your disposal. >http://www.crisny.org/users/kurlanda/index.html > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dogs
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My black Labrador, Crickett, isn't my barn dog anymore. She quit the job and I can't persuade her to come back to work! When we got home from vacation she followed me to the barn when I walked down to let Aagot out. Feeling frisky, Aagot chased her all the way back up the hill and plum out of the pasture ... and Crickett won't forgive her! It scared her! Now the only dog who will escort me to the barn is my fat, creamy yellow Labrador, Carly, whom Aagot has always considered to be the perfect beach ball! Once Carly mock-attacked Aagot's muzzle when Aagot got too forward which makes me feel that she can take care of herself better than I give her credit for; but, on the whole, Carly is just too trusting for me to relax when the horses are feeling their oats. Crickett was fast enough and sharp-witted enough that I didn't have to worry about her around the horses. She was a good barn dog. Plus, she has a bit of a guarddog temperament that was comforting in a dark barn at night. My horses have never hurt my dogs, but it is an ongoing concern. The problem with cats is ... they don't care if it's a Black Rat or an Indigo Bunting - it's history! Crickett should come back to her old position when Dorina gets home and she gets to go out with us when we go riding again! >><< Meredith Sessoms >><< Moulton Alabama USA >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><< >><< Dorina & Aagot >><< Caper, Carly & Crickett >><< Peachy, Khyber, Sparky & Splash
Re: Clicker training
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This message is from Carol at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In reference to Gail Russel's suggestion about Clicker Training for a two > year old. I was told that Fjords should never be fed treats by hand because > of their tendency to bite. The concept of Clicker Training makes sense to > me, but what about this issue? Carol ... Fjords can be very mouthy, but I wouldn't say you could never feed them treats by hand. If you are a rookie, just learning how to handle your weegie and he is getting away with everything short of murder, I'd say absolutely no hand feeding until his ground manners and your handling abilities have improved. I've had my horses several years now and we went from them mugging for treats to them just knowing that that kind of behavior simply isn't done. I have a bag of apples for Aagot in the fridge and I go out, whistle for her and toss the apple into the air so she can see it when she looks up at me, and she gets a little exercise running up the hill across the pasture for it. She doesn't mug me, she munches cheerfully, she does not get mad when I come out the next time without a treat. I don't whistle for the ponies unless I do have a treat which helps refine our communications. She loves those cold apples on these muggy Southern summer days. (dumb pun :-) absolutely intended) (Please tell me if this post goes through with any computer mumbo-jumbo attached to it; I've got a new mailbox with CompuServe, don't know if I've set it up right or not) >><< Meredith Sessoms >><< Tooksend Art >><< Moulton . Alabama . USA
Re:clicker treats
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I could go on and on about this - but will offer only two thoughts for now. 1) Distinguish between "treats" - in the "handing out candy to the begging little darlings" sense, and "wage pay treats" that are used in clicker training. One of the things you do when you clicker train is STOP handing out treats that are not preceded by a "click." In turn, the click only comes when the horse is doing his "job" (however you have defined the job). So if you want to be handing out treats, you have to get the horse to earn the "click" that precedes the treat. You have to stop all "freebie" handouts. My horses even have to "earn" their dinner by doing some little task to earn a click before the hay goes in the feeder. 2) Distinguish poor table manners (not taking the treat carefully and gently) and biting at your body or clothing." Good table manners can be taught. (Search the archives for Marsha Jo Hannah's "Pliers 101" article for an example of table manners training - though you could also devise a way to do it with the clicker.) Biting at the human can be stopped by teaching an alternative activity (using the clicker) that is incompatible with biting. Example, - horse cannot lower its head to the ground and bite at you at the same time. Hope that helps. Gail Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clicker training
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/16/00 5:29:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I was told that Fjords should never be fed treats by hand because of their tendency to bite. The concept of Clicker Training makes sense to me, but what about this issue? >> If you properly clicker train you will train away the tendency to bite. IE, they will NOT get a reward or a treat UNLESS they get a click. They learn really quick that biting or mugging is not the way to go, and that the treat needs to be earned. Pamela
Re: clicker treats
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/16/00 7:22:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I read an article on how to do it but it wasn't as easy or clear as what you described. >> Here's a pretty comprehensive website for any of you interested in getting started in clicker training. Not everybody's cup of tea, but it is a nice tool to have at your disposal. http://www.crisny.org/users/kurlanda/index.html
Re:clicker treats
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/15/00 10:29:49 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Anyway, the training for "no mugging" has made my other clicker training go MUCH better. >> Cool. Because I would love to give my girls treats but it makes them obnoxious and then you can't do anything with them. I read an article on how to do it but it wasn't as easy or clear as what you described. Gail in NM
Re: Martie Bolinski's Fjord Stained Glass Suncatchers
This message is from: John and Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> First, My apologies to the Fjord list. I thought my Email address was on the site with the pictures. My Email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] My phone if you can't reach me there is 410-398-0257. I'll take the rest of the reply off the list. Sorry, Martie in muggy MD Melissa Dowling/Glenn Campbell wrote: > This message is from: Melissa Dowling/Glenn Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Martie, > I have tried to reach you privately via your email address, but > haven't > had any success.
Clicker training
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from Carol at [EMAIL PROTECTED] In reference to Gail Russel's suggestion about Clicker Training for a two year old. I was told that Fjords should never be fed treats by hand because of their tendency to bite. The concept of Clicker Training makes sense to me, but what about this issue? Carol from hot, humid, rainy, buggy Michigan
Re: Fires around Libby
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:53 PM 08/15/2000 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On today's Forest Service fire map http://www.fs.fed.us/r1/kootenai/fire/ > it appears that there are quite a few fires north and west of Libby. > Further, it appears that most of these fires have no personnel > committed as yet. Could some of the local folks let us know if the > fires are going to have any detrimental effect on the show. . Steve, In my personal unprofessional opinion, (not worth much) I think it's probably too soon to tell.. it's just not a predictable scenario. Much will depend on what happens with the weather. We are having increasingly cooler nights, 37* right now, and that's helping.. few clouds and heavier atmosphere yesterday. We were in Libby last evening and it looked fine. Many of those fires (map marks) are spot fires on the tops of high mountains (from dry lightening last week) and present no immediate problem. Many of these may be "unmanned" because they handle them by choppers packing big water buckets to and fro. I'm sure Sherry and Ron Dayton are keeping an eye on the situation, then there's Patty Peterson right outside of Libby to keep them posted. Maybe we'll hear from her later today, I'll see if I can locate her. Let's all hope and pray the Libby show is on, I can confidently say it looks like there's no problem at all at this time. Ruthie, nw mt
potty habits
This message is from: carol j makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi list, It is time for a new topic. I let Heidi have free acess to her box stall so she can get in there away from the flies. At first she did not seem to potty in there too much. But now I swear she uses it as an outhouse. I only have bank run gravel down in her stall, but do plan on toping it with sand. So can all you experts give me some insight about this. We had another 5 in of rain Sun and sure would be happy to send it to you in the fire area next time. That makes about 20 inches since July 8th for our place. But I do have the barn flooding problem solved after going out there during the heavy downpour and digging a trench to redirect the water. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond
