Re: Preference of Saddles

2001-06-06 Thread Shareknot
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Having recently become a proud Fjord owner I am wondering what preferences
there are for saddles.  I have a 10 year old mare and her 1 year old filly.
The mare has been ridden, however, I don't have a saddle.  My preference
runs to the Western Saddle but it would seem that an English Saddle might
work better as our mare is quite broad across the back.  I would appreciate
any input from other Fjord owners.
I am really enjoying the pictures of all the new babies.
I am expecting our first Fjord Baby next Apr-May.
I can't begin to tell you all how much I am enjoying the "Fjord Experience"

Sharon Knipe
Calgary Canada





lisa,husband and jane

2001-06-06 Thread linda hickam
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they made it to Idahojane seems quite happy w/my 4 yr old
stabled next to her...don't worry eileen





Re: She trains lions, tigers, elephants & Fjords

2001-06-06 Thread Arthur Rivoire
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Hi from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -

I'm so excited having Irmgard Wieczorek here that I just had to share it
with you.

Who is Irmgard?  Well, she's certainly the most knowledgeable horseperson
I've ever encountered.  Here's a very brief bio on the woman -

She was born in a circus and grew up there.  The most famous circus in
Germany, the Franz Althoff Circus.  By the time she was four years old, she
was working with elephants.  She never went to school, and only learned to
read and write when she was twelve.  HOWEVER, this girl had a phenomenal
education.  She learned Hindu philosophy from the Indian elephant trainer.  

Irmgard was passionate to learn everything there was to know about her
world, and was mentored by people with extraordinary knowledge.  

The owner of the circus took this little blonde girl under her wing and
taught her many things.  

Today, Irmgard is one of the premier horse trainers in Europe.  She's also
a well-known horse breeder, and a breeding judge of all pony breeds.  
She travels the world, all over Europe and to Africa and Australia and New
Zealand teaching riding teachers how to teach.

Her specialty is classical lunging and long-lining, and that's what she's
been doing at Beaver Dam Farm this week.  

So what have we learned?  First, let me say, Irmgard is concentrating on
the basics with us.  She wants us to be able to continue the programs after
she's gone in two weeks.  It must be remembered that she's teaching from
her background of animal training in the circus.  ---  So, first thing we
did was construct a ring in a corner of our large training ring.  She laid
down jumping poles as the "walls", and placed one pole in an open position
as the "door".  The horses have to learn to respect the "walls", and in and
out occurs only at the doors.  What could be simpler, heh?  

Irmgard lunges always with the whip in the right hand no matter the
direction the horse is going.  She has different ways of attaching the
lungline according to the lesson of the hour.  One way I'd never tried was
to run the line through the bit and attach it to the D ring of the saddle
on the side the horse is turning.  

There's so many things we've learned in the last two days.  I just want to
share a few of them.

At the start of the riding lessons, she has all the horses line up square
with riders at their heads.  First thing the rider does is play with the
bit until the horse starts to mouth it.  Then the rider stands at the side
of the horse holding the reins, one arm over the neck and flexes the neck.
Only after the horse is mouthing and bending his neck willinginly and
nicely will the rider mount.

Another interesting thing I learned today -  We have a lame horse with a
torn muscle (we think).  Irmgard recommended hosing, and showed us how.
It's important, she said, to hose in spurts, and from BOTTOM TO TOP, and to
DO BOTH LEGS.  She said it's just like in massage.  You ALWAYS massage in
the direction of the heart.  In other words, starting at the front of the
horse, you massage in a clockwise direction.  At the back, you massage in a
counter clockwise direction -- Always towards the heart.  ---  I didn't
know that!

I can't tell you how lucky and appreciative we feel to have such a guru
here on our farm.  The woman is phenomenal in her knowledge.  

She's training our dog, Champ.  We had two baby squirrels in the house (not
invited) and Irmgard was so fascinated with this species new to her, that
she trained them to sit in her hand. 

I wish all of you had the opportunity to experience what we're seeing.
It's really phenomenal.  

Yesterday she worked about eight horses.  At the end of each lunging
session, she looped the lungeline around a foreleg hoisting it off the
ground.  Then looped it around the body, and had the horse move forward.
-  I can't even tell you exactly the sequence of ties and loops.  The idea
was SUBMISSION, and it was interesting to see how the various horses
reacted.  And the most interesting fact was that none of the Fjords fought
the restriction.  Some just accepted more readily than others. 

Well, that's it for now.  I'm exhausted and must go to bed.  Another
exciting day tomorrow.  Irmgard's not only a fabulous trainer and teacher,
she's also a great cook, and made us a wonderful salad for dinner.  

Best Regards,  Carol Rivoire  
Carol and Arthur Rivoire
Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II
R.R. 7 Pomquet
Antigonish County
Nova Scotia
B2G 2L4
902 386 2304
http://www.beaverdamfarm.com





Would Deb Stevens please e mail me

2001-06-06 Thread Gumbisue
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Hi Deb,
I have lost your E mail address
please e mail me
thanks
Gumbisue





Re: Itchy foals

2001-06-06 Thread Larry&Margaret Shorhen
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Try dusting the horses with D.E..  We use it for all kinds of insect
control,,it is non-toxic and as it falls to the ground/bedding it kills
insects there as well.
Hope this will help you a little bit.
Larry Shorhen





Re: July 7 & 8 Pre-evaluation Clinic

2001-06-06 Thread Karen McCarthy

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Linda, well we'll understand, but if you started riding now. ;~]


WA  I wish I could attend. Sounds like 
so

much fun :)

Linda in Minnesota


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hoof care

2001-06-06 Thread Denise Delgado
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listers,  had my ponies trimmed today.  quinn, the fjord, needed just
some toe trimming.  this last time he tended to wear down his hooves
heel low for some reason.  has been tripping more again.  was long in
the toe.  so we will see.  there has been some chipping too with the
change to drier weather, which has been taken care of with some sprays
of "hoof marvel" and mineral oil every now and then.  dancer, the curly,
with hooves of steal, just needed a mini-trim.  now they are set for
ridin  denise





Re: Bugs, weather, CDE, foal pics

2001-06-06 Thread HorseLotti
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Just heard on the local weather report we have had 19 days straight of mostly 
cloudy weather - gezz!!

Weekend promises to be nice:)





Re: July 7 & 8 Pre-evaluation Clinic

2001-06-06 Thread Denise Delgado
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thank you karen h. for giving us a pre-show clinic rundown.  i have a
couple of requests though.
1.  it would be nice to have a list included of the participants and
their homebase.
2.  for the saturday night videos..are they going to include fun movies
and should i bring the popcorn?!?!?!  ;~))  denise





Re: July 7 & 8 Pre-evaluation Clinic

2001-06-06 Thread HorseLotti
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WA  I wish I could attend. Sounds like so 
much fun :)  

Linda in Minnesota





New Email Address

2001-06-06 Thread Heithingi
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Hello everyone,

We are adding another email address, Baileys [EMAIL PROTECTED], to our system.  
We will still be using our old one occasionally, but thought this one would 
be easier to remember!  

We still have some quality Fjords for sale, from weanling age to 19 years 
old.  Let us know if you would like any info on any of them!

Thanks,

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm
White Cloud, MI
231.689.9902
http://hometown.aol.com/heithingi/BaileysNorwegianFjords.html





July 7 & 8 Pre-evaluation Clinic

2001-06-06 Thread Dudley and Karen Haines
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 I'm writing to remind everyone of the Pre-Evaluation Clinic being held on
 July 7 and 8 at the Rafter PM Ranch in Carson City, Nevada. Beth Beymer and
 Karen McCarthy are generously donating their time to put on this clinic.
 Beth is a current member of the NFHR Evaluation Committee and Karen is a
 former member. Participants at the clinic will receive a copy of the NFHR
 Evaluation handbook and the clinicians will review the intent and structure
 of the NFHR American Evaluation system, especially the conformation phase.

 On Friday evening there will be a pizza party with an introduction to the
 clinic and viewing of videos from both U.S. and Norwegian evaluations.
 Saturday morning there will be a review of the NFHR Handbook and
discussion,
 followed by in-hand work in the arena. After lunch there will be a
 continuation of work in-hand and a mane trimming and overall grooming and
 presentation session. Saturday evening there will be a BBQ and more videos.
 Sunday morning will start with a review and question and answer session,
and
 the days work will be determined by the needs and requests of the
 participants. In the afternoon a trail ride to the Carson River is planned.

 Now, doesn't that sound like fun?!

 Karen still has some spaces left in the clinic for participants as well as
 room for auditors. Karen even has "loaner" horses available if you are not
 able to bring your own. The cost for this clinic is very reasonable, as I
 mentioned, both Beth and Karen are not charging for their time. Don't miss
 this opportunity to learn and practice for your next evaluation, or simply
 learn more about the evaluation system and fjordhorse conformation. You do
not need to
 be participating at an evaluation this year in order to attend - the clinic
 is open to everyone.

For those of you who have already signed up, Karen will e-mail you more
detailed information, including directions to the ranch
 by June 13th.

 For more information about the clinic, please contact Karen McCarthy at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Bugs, weather, CDE, foal pics

2001-06-06 Thread tillie34
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In a message dated 6/6/2001 8:50:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> http://foxfirefjords.homestead.com/Foal5.html
> 
 Betsy, we sure enjoyed your photo's but the narration was greatest. You have 
started a story that we hope will go on thru the years as Lidamir's life goes 
on. I like your site. I went to the first page and viewed it all again. You 
have worked hard on it and we say Thanks for giving us the pleasure of 
viewing it. 
 I enjoy viewing all the sites that Fjord owners let us view. Lets see more 
Fjord web sites or  show addresses again  for the new Fjord owners on this 
list. I go to every site with interest. 
  Congratulations to all who have new foals, we are waiting for Emily to 
bring "Bjorn's) us one this week. Hopefully!!Tillie


Dun Lookin' Fjords
Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers
Redmond OR  (541) 548-6018
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589





Re: water hazards

2001-06-06 Thread Denise Delgado
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mary,  what is your suggestion?  carry a crop for added contact?  leg
aids (heavy),  finally worked.  i think he just wanted to roll and play,
but if he learns this trick, i might have a heck of a time with him.  he
is'nt a mean horse.  denise





Bugs, weather, CDE, foal pics

2001-06-06 Thread Patryjak
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Hiyall,

We are getting Minnesotan weather a day or so later...The weather "guys"
said last night that since May 1st we have had two days of sunshine. The sun
came out for about 10 minutes on Monday...and the deer flies with
it...swarms! It has also been really cool...highs just barely in 60's. Rain
every day...Isn't this what Washington and Oregon are supposed to be
like...or is that just a myth?
Has made it necessary to keep moving horses around, either too much grass or
really mucky or really slippery clay. Hard to lead horses around when you
are slipping and sliding yourself! With no sun, nothing is drying out...

Are any Fjords coming to Metamora CDE June 15, 16, 17? Sure hope it dries up
some for it...I will be working cones on Saturday. Hope to see some Fjords
there...

For those who have never had or been around fjord foals, like us, I am
trying to document Lidamir's adventures in pictures. If you would like to
see visit

http://foxfirefjords.homestead.com/Foal5.html
http://foxfirefjords.homestead.com/Foal6.html

Hard to believe she is 3 weeks old!

Betsy in Michigan





Re: muzzles

2001-06-06 Thread HorseLotti
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Thanks, Jeanne -- I'll look for that!





Re: fat fjords

2001-06-06 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There is a "grazing muzzle" made of nylon webbing with a rubber bottom
which has a hole in the middle which lets in a few blades of grass. I have
read (somewhere) that this is the best grazing muzzle to use.  You can see
a picture of the muzzle incorporated into a halter unit in this month's
EQUUS, page 152.  The muzzle by itself is available and snaps to a regular
halter.  Whether it is sized for a Fjord muzzle is another question!

Jean in sunny Fairbanks, Alaska, expected to be 75 degrees today with 21
hours of sunlight!


>Re:  chubby fjords and grazing muzzles  
 causes a sore 
>from rubbing on his chin area so I don't use it anymore.  Mine is the heavy 
>wire "basket" style with fleece all around that clips on his halter.  Has 
>anyone used a different style that works for them???


Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Re: water hazards

2001-06-06 Thread Mary Thurman
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--- Denise Delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  yesterday i could barely get him out of the middle
> of the stream.
> granted it was hot and the water was nice, but he
> just splashed away.  i have heard
> that when horses paw and splash in water like crazy,
> as he was doing,
> that it is a sign they are soon to lie down and
> roll,
  is that true or
> was he just screwing
> around, playing in the water, 

Denise,

Yes, the next move was probably "drop and roll".  Have
'been there, done that' and it's not fun!  Actually,
ANY time a horse stops and starts pawing madly - in
the water OR on dry land - he IS probably planning to
take a good roll - rider or no rider!  I have seen
'seasoned'(read SOURED) beach and dude string horses
use this as a way to get rid of their rider when they
feel they've had enough for the day.  Also have seen
older horses use this to get rid of the "kid" on their
back when the kid started being decidedly obnoxious to
the horse(hee, hee, think the horse won that round). 
Realistically, it can be very dangerous for a small
rider - but then some kids/dudes really DO have it
coming ;).

Mary

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Raintree Farms
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kez

2001-06-06 Thread Denise Delgado
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glad to hear kez is doing so well.  i don't know about dirt ingestion,
but i down loaded the horsemen's voice on line.  it looks like a very
interesting magazine.  i have to go back and check it out a little more.
congrats and thanks.  denise  ps.  for the other listers, you can go to
www.horsemensvoice.com.





Itchy foals

2001-06-06 Thread HorseLotti
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Re:  gnats and no-see-ums

In Minnesota we also have gnats -- have noticed they REALLY bite one mare, 
love to burrow down in my fjord geldings "folds" and just nibble on my QH.  
The mare is almost crazy they bother her so much.  She has big scabby areas 
where they bite and bite.  

I use "gnat away" and a generous blob of clear SWAT on areas I know the gnats 
will go to -- but, if at all possible I put them in their stalls.   I don't 
go out when the darn gnats are out -- and their bites not only itch but swell 
up and hurt.  UFFDA!!!

Linda in MN





Re: fat fjords

2001-06-06 Thread HorseLotti
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Hi Listers!!

Re:  chubby fjords and grazing muzzles  --  I have used one with my "Sven" 
and it works well to slow his eating down, however, it also causes a sore 
from rubbing on his chin area so I don't use it anymore.  Mine is the heavy 
wire "basket" style with fleece all around that clips on his halter.  Has 
anyone used a different style that works for them???

Congrats to all the folks with new foals -- hope to see many on the Herald's 
baby page:)

Sympathy to those with ill or deceased horses - such sad stories!  My heart 
aches as I read them through misty eyes.

Minnesota weather is barely tolerable -- cool, rainy, cloudy -- with a day of 
sunshine here and there just to tease us!!   Not many bugs and that has been 
the only plus - too cold!!!

Have a fun summer!

Linda in Minnesota, just outside Minneapolis, in "rural" Corcoran  -- still 
lots of farmers out our way :)





Keswick

2001-06-06 Thread SorgerJ
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Keswick is a month old today and doing well. We are still feeding him every 2 
hours round the clock, but he is now starting to eat Foal Lac pellets so we 
will soon feed him a little less often. Kate has returned to Los Trigos and 
Heather my 3 year old Fjord and Jorge a Pygora goat have taken over. He seems 
to be growing normally and is as tall as his brother Paul who is 4 days 
older.  
Keswick made the cover of the East Mountain Telegraph, our local paper and he 
will be on the cover, with Heather, of The Horsemans Voice a New Mexico horse 
magazine.  The Horsemans Voice plans an annual update on his progress. So at 
one month old he is already an ambassador for his breed.
.
I have a question for the list how long does a foal eat dirt, I understand it 
is to build the bacteria in the stomach, but Kez seems to eat a lot more than 
I thought he would. Even in the pasture he will eat the grass down to the 
soil and eat dirt. It isn't so bad when he is eating the clay soil but I have 
sand and have had to restrict him from some areas where he could run.   
   Sue

Sue Clark-Sorger
Crown Oak Fjords
Sandia Park NM