Re: Horse haulers

2001-12-22 Thread truman matz
This message is from: "truman matz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Lynda,
I've dealt with a couple of very reputable haulers, both of whom I would
recommend.  But this last one, (which we had nothing to do with other than
receive the horse), I'm not too sure of.  I had forgotten to mention that
when they got the old mare off of the panel, they had to roll (?) her out of
the trailer.  She came to us with her entire coat ruffled, matted and stiff
from what was apparently copious amounts of urine.  The two good haulers I
mentioned had VERY clean trailers.
Judy
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Subject: Re: Horse haulers


> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hello Judy,
>
> Due to our experiences with professional transporters, we will NEVER use
them
> or recommend them to anyone.  Hence, the main reason we offer to deliver
our
> horses ourselves.
>
> Lynda
>
> Lynda and Daniel
> Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm
> White Cloud, MI
> 231-689-9902
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/






Re: God Jul

2001-12-22 Thread Tesla Spring Farm
This message is from: Tesla Spring Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hallo Janne!
Vi ønsker også Dig og Din familie en rigtig god Jul og et godt Nyt År.

Her er knabt så koldt som hos Jer men sneen ligger tykt.

Tesla Spring Farm nordlige Kootenay lake.

Bent Haagerup






God Jul

2001-12-22 Thread Janne Myrdal
This message is from: "Janne Myrdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Wanted to wish a God Jul and Blessed Nytt år from the Myrdal Farm in ND. 
where the wind is howling, the snow is coming down horizontally, and we have
fed the Fjords a bit extra tonight.

Janne Myrdal






mare's milk, randys's illness and a small world

2001-12-22 Thread Joanna Crell
This message is from: Joanna Crell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 As I was reading  all the messages tonight I was thinking about how we all
have become "related."  In Mongolia, where it is cold and remote, people
have lived on mares milk, it gives them strength and sustenance.We horse
people can talk about this with great curiousity and also can offer each
other our caring and hope when  a family member is down.  We feel for each
others animals and pray for healing continuously...I am glad we connect and
can share each others joys and sorrows. It is a great solace to know I can
turn to friends with questions needing answers as well as be there to
encourage someone in our community. I wish you all peace tonight and every
night, and that your animals sleep soundly, safe and content. 
Your friend, 
Joanna,   who loves to have visitors...
Joanna Crell and David Folger, directors
Willowind Therapeutic Riding and Driving Center
 State Highway 3 Box 1140 Eden
Bar Harbor, Maine 04609
phone and fax (207) 288-9506
http://www.willowind.org 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Best wishes to Sue

2001-12-22 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sue - our thoughts are with you on this tough journey. Take care of
yourself, too.

Peg and Doug

Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA
http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/






fjordhorse-digest V2001 #334

2001-12-22 Thread fjordhorse-digest

fjordhorse-digestSaturday, December 22 2001Volume 2001 : Number 334



In this issue:

   Electric Fence
   RE: electric fence
   RE: electric fence
   More SS Clues
   Re: had enough Christmas shopping
   Re: fjordhorse-digest V2001 #333
   very hungry fjords
   saddle fit
   Wormer tastes
   Listers Locations
   Congratulations, etc
   Re: electric fence
   Re: Fjordhesten Magazine
   Re: western saddle sizes
   Fjord milk!
   Saddles and Randys illness
   Re: Horse haulers
   Re: Fjord milk!
   Re: electric fence
   Re: Horse haulers
   Randys illness
   Re: Listers Locations
   Christmas Tidings
   Re: Wormer tastes
   a greeting-cards.com Christmas card for you!
   Re: Saddles and Randys illness

See the end of the digest for information on how to retrieve back issues.

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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:57:11 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Electric Fence

This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
  We also have electric fence. To solve the problem of the ponies pushing
against the fence when its not on, I hide by the switch (in the garage) and
keep watch (with the fence off). As soon as one touches the fence I flip the
switch and ZAP! This keeps them off the fence when its off ;-)  They can't
rely on listening to the fence to find out if it "bites". My fence also
packs a pretty good wallop and has a well-grounded extra strand.

  I hope everyone has a wonderful happy and safe Christmas.

Laura 
  From Ottawa where its barely winter - just below 32f with some snow/slush
on the ground.

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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:03:01 -0800
From: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: electric fence

This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Carol, If the electric fence is bothering your TVI would suspect an
electrical grounding of the fence problem.

If you have your electrical wire guarding a wire fence, run a ground rod at
the fence line and ground the fence itself.  If you have breaks in the fence
(not a continuous connection of the wire fence) then more grounding rods
will be necessary.

If it is bothering your TV, I suspect the electrical pulse is feeding back
into your 110/220v house circuits.
Check the grounding rod at your electrical panel (or meter).
Also, check the ground rod at the fence charger...and possibly add another
rod.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Subject: Re: electric fence


This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Thank you for the detailed explanation of this problem.  I have checked my
fence
as well as possible and still have the interference.  So, my next possible
solution is to put a timer on the charger and have it off during the early
evening hrs when we are most apt to be watching TV.  Has anyone tried this
and
is it workable?  13 degrees here this morning and we may have snow for
Christmas
after all.  But hopefully not too much to make all the holiday travelers a
difficult trip.


- --
"Built FJORD tough"
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
Northern Wisconsin

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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:06:12 -0800
From: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: electric fence

This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Glen, you bet the horses know when the fence is not operating.  They can
sense the electrical pulse.
Even humans can sense the pulse if they "listen" closely enough.  I can hear
it when I am near the wire.

All the best,

Fred


Subject: Re: electric fence


This message is from: "Glen MacGillivray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

We have tried a few things like this to reduce troublesome interference with
anything from television to guitar amplifiers.  While turning the fencer off
definitely solves the interference problem while it is off, our girls (the
older in particular) are remarkably aware of the times when the fence is
off, and adjust their behaviour accordingly.  I don't know if they are
actually sensitive to the radio-frequency emissions from the fencer, or the
fence, or if they her the clicking of the fencer, or what, but if I turn the
fence off for any reason, I am certain that they know it.

Glen

>
> Thank you for the detailed explanation of this problem.  I have checked my
fence
> as well as possible and still have the interference.  So, my next possible
> solution is to put a timer on the charger and have it off during the early
> evening hrs when we are most apt to be watching TV.  Has anyone tried this
and
> is it workable?  13 degrees here this morning and we may have snow for
Christmas
> after all.  But hopefully not too much to make all the holiday travelers a
> difficult trip.

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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:16:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: More SS Clues

This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL P

Re: Saddles and Randys illness

2001-12-22 Thread wilson964
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Sue:  OE and I send our best wishes for Randy and you.  
I pray that you both will weather this illness and have 
positive results.
Merry Christmas and hopefully a healthful New Years.

pat
ttfn
> This message is from: "Sue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >A question on western saddles...Isn't the semi-quarter >bars the narrowest
> tree?  I
> >thought that the sizes went from Arab tree (widest), to >Quarter Horse, to
> Semi- (for
> >narrower horses).  But folks are finding the narrowest >one fits the
> Fjords?
> 
> Well I have a semi -quarter bar in the western Wintec saddle that I bought
> this past summerand it does appear to fit Storm...Yet!  Although he is
> only 2 1/2 years old and we have of course just set it on him and lightly
> cinched him upbut I do have my fingers crossed that it will continue to
> fit him.
> 
> Well  my hubby and I have had a rough fall.  As I mentioned in a previous
> letter, I broke my ankle.  I am getting around now (7 weeks later) by
> wearing a Breg splint boot.   Randy took sick a  couple of months ago and
> after being misdiagnosed and given medicines that did not work, finally got
> in so much pain that he was hospitilized 3 weeks ago.  C.T. scans were taken
> and various tests.  It turns out he has a non Hodgkins type of Lymphoma.
> This is very scary but according to the cancer specialist his prognosis is
> good.  He had his first Chemo treatment today and if all goes well he will
> be released tomorrow.  He will have 5 more treatments spaced 3 weeks apart.
> When I spoke with him tonight, he was very nauseated and had just been given
> a gravol needle.  Apparently, his immune system will be comprimised by the
> chemo...so we hope and pray he does not pick up a flu or cold.  What a fall
> this has been!  But in spite of all this, I have managed to go on line and
> order gifts from Sears so hopefully Santa will come after all.  My prayers
> were answered when Randy's illness turned out to be treatable and hopefully
> curable.  Keep us in your thoughts everyone, and have a Merry Christmas.
> Sue in N.B. (Desert Storm's mom)






a greeting-cards.com Christmas card for you!

2001-12-22 Thread Martie and John Bolinski
This message is from: Martie and John Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: Wormer tastes

2001-12-22 Thread John & Martie Bolinski
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Maybe it is a personal preference.  All my horses tolerate the Strongid, even
suck it out of the wormer tubes, but Frida, our newest, like the Ivermectin so
much she wants to fight the others for their share.
They all like the Panacur when they get it, but we just put it on their feed and
let them take it that way.

Martie in MD

Anjer Farms wrote:

> This message is from: Anjer Farms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I would definitely agree I am certain that Ivermectrin tastes the worst from
> the horses reactions. Mine seem to like Strongid Paste and never even make
> faces when they get it!
>
> Andrea






Christmas Tidings

2001-12-22 Thread Susan M Cargill
This message is from: "Susan M Cargill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

We, at Longtheway Farm, would like to wish each and every
member of the Fjord Horse Digest a very Merry Christmas
and a Happy New Year.

Susan Cargill - Longtheway Farm






Re: Listers Locations

2001-12-22 Thread Fhtrp
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Just for your map. I'm Robyn Marie Sherrard, one fjord Nina III and we live 
in Port Deposit, MD. which has the distinction of being "the only town that 
can't grow" according to Ripley's Believe It or Not. The little town of maybe 
600 has a huge hill on the backside and the Susquehanna River on the other 3 
sides.
Robyn
and winter came in this week






Randys illness

2001-12-22 Thread ruth bushnell
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sue, you sure are having a rough time!.. very sorry to hear of your trials!
Hoping your future takes an upswing and Randy's treatment is
successful.God's Blessing on you and Randy in the New Year..
..with a prayer for you, Ruthie

>
> Well  my hubby and I have had a rough fall.  As I mentioned in a previous
> letter, I broke my ankle.  .   Randy took sick a  couple of months ago
and...  It turns out he has a non Hodgkins type of Lymphoma.
> This is very scary but according to the cancer specialist his prognosis is
> good. ..  My prayers
> were answered when Randy's illness turned out to be treatable and
hopefully
> curable.  Keep us in your thoughts everyone, and have a Merry Christmas.
> Sue in N.B. (Desert Storm's mom)






Re: Horse haulers

2001-12-22 Thread BaileysFjords
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Hello Judy,

Due to our experiences with professional transporters, we will NEVER use them 
or recommend them to anyone.  Hence, the main reason we offer to deliver our 
horses ourselves.

Lynda

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm
White Cloud, MI
231-689-9902
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/






Re: electric fence

2001-12-22 Thread Carol J. Makosky
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Marsha Jo Hannah wrote

>
> I haven't had that problem.  However, someone on the LONGEARS list
> said that, when she plugged her charger in via a surge protector,
> the TV interference went away.

That's worth a try.

>
>
> Equines do sometimes learn to "test" fences to check whether they're
> "hot".  The breeder of my donkey said that her jennies would go out
> and use their whiskers to "feel" the wire; if the battery to the
> charger had run down

As I have mentioned before, I must be very lucky.  Heidi does not try any
of these tricks, but I do keep the fence on as much as possible.


--
"Built FJORD tough"
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
Northern Wisconsin






Re: Fjord milk!

2001-12-22 Thread truman matz
This message is from: "truman matz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> You wouldn't believe it but I just had a big glass of fjord milk! Tasted
> quite nice, almost like skimmed milk but sweeter.
> Dagrun from freezing Norway
***
>From what I've read, the Russians use the milk from the Curly horses, use
their curly hair to make sweaters, blankets, etc., eat the meat, (uh-oh),
and of course, use them for work.  The milk is supposed to be plentiful, and
one of the uses of it is to make some sort of an alcholic drink.  Judy






Re: Horse haulers

2001-12-22 Thread truman matz
This message is from: "truman matz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

A week ago, we received our friend's horse that was shipped from NJ to AR.
(Friend is to follow soon.)  The horse had a horrible accident in the
trailer about 30 miles from her final destination.  I've procrastinated
about writing about it, but since it still bothers me, thought I'd "air" it
on the list.

This horse is a 28 year old T/B mare.  No known reason why she went bonkers,
but the owner assumes it was because she stood in the straight stall of the
trailer too long, (3 days, instead of 2), and her arthritis hurt so bad she
couldn't take it any longer.  I personally wondered about the possibility of
a driver not handling our AR hills and curves very well.  We lose a lot of
18 wheelers to drivers who aren't alert enough.  Anyway, the mare somehow
got a back leg over the panel, went down in the front, was going shocky, and
we got a call that she would probably die before the night was over.

In the meantime, the two drivers had called for police assistance, and the
troopers and sheriff's deputies arrived to offer wonderful assistance, even
putting thermal blankets on the mare.  The one driver said that all of the
law enforcement men left there dirty that night.  They just jumped right in
doing whatever was necessary.

Our friend in NJ had told us that the one driver was totally worthless,...
didn't know how to deal with horses, and didn't even know how to load the
hay on the truck that she was sending.  Apparently, he also doesn't read a
road map very well, as he also got them lost for 4 hours before he ever got
to my friends place to pick up the mare.  The other driver is on complete
disability due to a back problem for which he had surgery.  This man,
however, does know and care about horses.  He's the one that got under the
mare to lift her up enough for the troopers to get the panel down and the
mare off of it.

Ending of the story was that the vet checked the mare, sedated her and gave
her something for pain.  She spent that night at his place, and was
delivered the next morning.  She's improving, but I would guess not out of
the woods due to her age.

Anyway, I'm sorry this is so long, but I needed to vent, and actually have a
question.  I feel that this is not a hauler that I would ever use, but
wonder if my "feelings" are just an hysterical reaction to a nightmare
situation, or if there are grounds for those feelings.  Any comments?  Just
as an aside, my husband also felt the one driver was worthless, just from
the brief meeting when he received the horse.

Thanks for listening.

Judy