Vilde

2003-09-29 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Vilde is still uncomfortable, with a fever of 102.5 and increased
respiration rate. Today, when I returned from being in court with a friend,
it was clear she had been rolling. She improves with Banamine

Looks like I will be off to the State Vet Hosp at Pullman, WA, with her
tomorrow where she can be scoped and they can tell me where to go from
there. Many thank you's to all of you who have emailed privately to offer
support and/or suggestions. I will keep you informed.

Beth, I am so sorry to read about Amy and Sara, but relieved to learn that
Sara is doing well. She is such a pretty girl! I will send healing thoughts
Amy's way.

I will keep everyone informed.

Thanks, Peg

Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA
http://www.elltel.net/kffjord/



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #228

2003-09-29 Thread Northhorse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 9/29/2003 5:45:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> These horsy accidents can happen soo fast and so unexpectedly !!! (even
> playing it safe)
> 
> May the Lord touch Amy and awaken her, restoring her to full health ! Our
> thoughts and prayers are with her.
> 

They do.  I just took a fall off of Holly in a nearly completely safe 
environment.  Just sprained an ankle and tore the skin off my fingers (when the 
reins 
slid through my hands).

My prayers that Amy comes out of her coma soon.  Your description of her 
makes her sound like a wonderful person.



Looking for good stable in NC

2003-09-29 Thread vz/bossmare
This message is from: "vz/bossmare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

After considering a number of places to retire to we've settled on the town of
Shallotte, NC which is halfway between Wilmington and Myrtle Beach.  To my
dismay I could find no suitable boarding facilities that either I or my mare
would find comfortable and safe.  I don't need fancy but I do needa
barnsafe fencing that's not one strand of electric tape...people who know
what they are doing and hopefully a training and lesson situation.  What I
found was very rough (junk cars in the pasture) and strange thoughts about
horse care.  I'm not sure I'm ready for the "Stepford Wife" golf community we
will be moving into (after 30 years of horses it's husband's turn for his
passion) so I was hoping to take one of our mares with us to keep me connected
to my lifelong passion.  I won't miss the snow and ice in NJ, the frozen water
buckets, the flies, the broken fingernails and the feeling of always feeling
grimy taking care of our own farm.  I also won't miss the $20,000 annual
property tax bill.  If I can't find something suitable then both of my Fjord
mares will be donated to the Somerset Hills Handicapped.  I'm reserving an
option on the one mare to take her back if I do find a facility that meets my
criteria.

If anyone  knows of a decent boarding/training facility in the Shallotte NC
vicinity please email me and let me know.  Thanks.

Lois Berenyi



Re: It's a Boy

2003-09-29 Thread Deb Williams
This message is from: "Deb Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Congratulations.   Hardy left you something behind.  He'll grow fast on
mom's milk.  Glad to hear everything is working out.  Hope you have had good
weather for your hay.  We are still putting some in.
Debi Williams
Williams Hill Fjords
Waterford, Pa
Home of Tolgar,Belle and Levi,Hilda,Senja,Rosie, Daniel and Emily
>
> This is the first fjord colt we've had, but I think it seems so tiny. He
> measures 29 1/2" at the withers. I'm just glad it's alive after what Una
went
> through. Also, I haven't found any dark hair anywhere. The sire and dam
are
> both brown duns, but there is no black hair on the colt. The mane and tail
> have some light reddish-brown hair. Could it be a red dun?
>
> Joe Glick
> Glick Family Farm
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Showing/Neck Sweating

2003-09-29 Thread Warren Stockwell
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

.  I have heard that there are people who have begun to sweat
their Fjords' necks prior to showing or evaluations.  This practice of neck
sweating is common for some reason in other breeds (which I will never
understand).
 But, it really upsets me that the practice may be finding its way into the
Fjord ranks.  Has anyone else heard anything about this and why it is being
done?

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Anne,

It was suggested by a trainer that I use a neck sweat on my Fjord to clean
up her throat lach area. I never put much effort in it for a number of
reasons 1) my other Fjord would take it off, 2) the trainer skinned her mane
off because it got in the way ( ? ), and 3) she also got her good and sick
and sent it home for the rest of the herd to get ( strangles ). I lost some
faith in this trainer, she is still tallented but questionable.

Roberta



Showing/Neck Sweating

2003-09-29 Thread NCFjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello.  It has been a while since I have sent anything to the list, but time 
just seems to get away from me.  I am finally done with show season, but we 
are busy getting two Fjord teams in shape to handle the opening of our you-pick 
pumpkin patch.  We take people to and from the patch in the horse-drawn wagons 
and it can get quite hectic at times.

I know the show attire issue has been covered, but I wanted to give my 
"2-cents' worth"!  I feel it very important to wear appropriate show clothes 
for the 
event/classes you are entering.  I am the only one in my area showing Fjords. 
 I want to make a first class impression by having proper attire and the 
proper equipment.  Now, don't get me wrong...I don't go spend a lot of money on 
my 
clothes or equipment.  I buy much of my stuff at used tack sales or wait for 
sales at tack stores.  But, I try to stay in "fashion" as much as possible.  I 
feel I owe to the breed to present myself and my horse in the best possible 
manner.

The other issue I wanted to approach is something I have heard and a little 
dismayed about.  I have heard that there are people who have begun to sweat 
their Fjords' necks prior to showing or evaluations.  This practice of neck 
sweating is common for some reason in other breeds (which I will never 
understand). 
 But, it really upsets me that the practice may be finding its way into the 
Fjord ranks.  Has anyone else heard anything about this and why it is being 
done?  

I hope everyone has a wonderful fall!

Anne Crandall
Nottawa Crossing Fjords
Marshall MI 



Re: Need some good thoughts

2003-09-29 Thread ruth bushnell
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> We need your thoughts and prayers sent our way for a friend of ours who
> is currently in the hospital in a coma after a riding accident.  Her
> name is Amy Bowman.

MVF Sara coliced over the weekend and ended up in surgery at CSU
Keep her in your thoughts as well.
> Thanks.
>
> Beth

VERY SORRY to hear of Amy's accident, Beth! ...also Sara's surgery GLAD
that she is recovering well.

These horsy accidents can happen soo fast and so unexpectedly !!! (even
playing it safe)

May the Lord touch Amy and awaken her, restoring her to full health ! Our
thoughts and prayers are with her.

Ruthie and Gene, NW MT



Need some good thoughts

2003-09-29 Thread Starfirefarm
This message is from: Starfirefarm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Everyone,

We need your thoughts and prayers sent our way for a friend of ours who
is currently in the hospital in a coma after a riding accident.  Her
name is Amy Bowman.  She was riding a young horse on a trail ride with
some friends and somehow came off the horse (no one saw the accident and
she was wearing a helmet.)  Amy came to Libby to visit us in 2000 and
helped us out with getting the horses ready during the show, so some of
you may have had the opportunity to meet her.  She also was an alternate
for our fjord quadrille in the 2002 Wizards of the Night performance.
She is one of those great people who, you can tell right away, has a
generous heart and great sense of humor.

MVF Sara coliced over the weekend and ended up in surgery at CSU.  She
has come through the surgery with flying colors.  They found a sand
impaction and some old scarring tissue, so it's been going on for a long
time.  I havn't been able to see her yet, as I was at the Ohio
evaluation, but Sandy has visited her and she apparently "looked like
nothing at all happend to her."  Keep her in your thoughts as well.
Thanks.

Beth





--
Starfire Farm
Beth Beymer and Sandy North
http://www.starfirefarm.com



Fjord mare for sale

2003-09-29 Thread Dave and Patti Jo Walter
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Jo Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi List, Just wanted to tell everyone about a mare that my friend and
neighbor is putting up forsale.  Britta, is a 5 yr old red dun mare out of
Reterra Evy and by Anvil's Torborjn(Toby).  Britta is a compact little mare,
standing a little over 13.3hh, who is also very athletic.  I started Britta
to drive as a 2 yr old and to ride as a 3 yr old.  Britta has been ridden
mostly western.  She is neck reining fairly well. She has been ridden by a
13 yr old girl, who has taken her to some open and 4H shows and does trail
riding with her.   Britta knows her leads, has a super jog on her and has
the talent to do a whole lot more.  She is responsive to your legs and to
the bridle.  She will side pass, turn on the haunches and forehand.  She was
shown in halter, trail, western pleasure and horsemanship.  She was used in
the open flag ceremony at one of the 4H shows.  She loves to go swimming in
the pond with a rider aboard, and VERY much use to kids.

She was evaluated and given a red ribbon at age 3.  Britta did give birth to
a colt this year and you would have sworn she done this a million times, she
was so good right from the start with strange people and with the colt.  She
is a super mom!  Baby is VERY nice, but of course he is from my stallion.
:-)

Britta has not been driving since she was 2, although I am hoping to work
with her this fall and winter and get her going again if she is still
around.  I doubt that it would take much.  She was very much a natural at
it.  I remember getting out of the cart one day and the tire blew, I looked
up to see where she was gonna bolt to, she didn't move a muscle.  I remember
thanking God that I choose Fjords and thanking Britta for being such a good
girl too!

She is being priced at $4250, another good bargain.

Patti Jo Walter
Francis Creek Fjords
Two Rivers WI



Re: Vies Vilde

2003-09-29 Thread jgayle
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sorry to keep on this but in the old days for twists one called in friends
and laid the horse down and rocked them back and forth with often good
results.   Jean






Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
Author:The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946-49
$20 PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563



Re: Vies Vilde

2003-09-29 Thread jgayle
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Peggy, so sorry about your baby.  Remember how stoic these horses are and
they do not show great pain until things are really tough.  My Howdie kept
eating but there was a twist in the gut high up.  We had him on so much
banamine he would act normal at times but each day got worse.  Surgery,
exploration etc. a day earlier might have saved him. Good luck, I know it is
agony waiting and hoping.  Jean






Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
Author:The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946-49
$20 PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563



Re: western shank bit

2003-09-29 Thread Warren Stockwell
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

sorry sent the inquiry re tellington bit to the wrong person. Must be a Sr.
moment.

Roberta
- Original Message -
From: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: western shank bit


> This message is from: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I ride Thor in this bit and used to show my appendix type bred paint in it
> for upper level western classes
>
> http://lindatellingtonjones.com/store/index.htm
>
> the mouthpiece is also laid back, fixed, med. port w. roller.
>
> Hope
> N IL



Re: Glory Bit

2003-09-29 Thread Sam & Sue Banks
This message is from: "Sam & Sue Banks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I use the Glory bit with butterfly cheeks for foxhunting. My horse is very
comfortable in it, and I ride with two reins so I can use the curb rein
independently, which is infrequent. In my small hunt, they care more about
"what works" than being strict with tradition. Most people are too busy
looking at my unusual choice of a Fjord horse to make many comments about my
bit. If people can accept Pessoa gag bit shanks which are not "traditional",
they should accept butterfly cheeks.

Sue Banks, Mattaponi, Virginia



Re: Vies Vilde

2003-09-29 Thread Joe Glick
This message is from: "Joe Glick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Peg,

I read your post about Vies Vilde. I would highly recommend giving her Pro Bi,
which is made by a company called Advanced Biological Concepts (ABC for
short). Here is a link to their web site: http://www.a-b-c-plus.com/  And here
is the link to a page that describes how Pro Bi works:
http://www.a-b-c-plus.com/probi.php3

ABC manufactures a full line of supplements for horses. Their primary product
is ABC Plus which is in a pellet form and is to be used as a daily supplement
that helps with the digestive system. The benefits are healthier hair coats,
better immune system and less feed consumption.

ABC's products are all natural and are sold through a dealer network or
directly from the company. Dealer prices are generally lower than buying
directly from the manufacturer.

If you have any questions about how Pro Bi or any of their other products
work, give Andy Miller at Hiland Supply Co. a call at 1-800-893-3702. He is an
area representative for ABC and he gives seminars in my area twice a year. He
is very knowledgeable about their products, as he has been using them for
years and has actually helped them develop some of their products.

I'm not getting paid to do this advertising, it just breaks my heart to hear
of people losing a horse to colic when it could have been prevented with a
simple treatment.

I wish you good luck with Vies Vilde. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Joe Glick
Glick Family Farm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Vies Vilde

2003-09-29 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Peg, Did you just do any shots a few days ago?  like the Strangles
intranasal?  My gelding, Bjorken, had a reaction 3 days after having the
shots, including the Strangles intranasal and had symptoms much like that:
a fever of 104.5 for 3 days, off his feed, wanted to lie around, etc.  came
out of it after three days, with banamine, etc. Vet later thought it maybe
was the Strangles Intranasal and decided not to give it to him the next time.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska

 At 11:08 PM 9/28/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Hi all -
>
>Vilde is still not herself today, with a temp of 102.3. She is in pain, but
>has passed stool and the oil from the vet's tubing yesterday. We fed her
>this morning, but then she just wanted to lie down. No rolling, and she did
>get up and walk readily.
>
>Her blood work is normal. Respiration is up a little. Plenty of gut sounds.
>Her temp was down 2 degrees after the vet gave her Banamine.
>
>We are worried, but not panicked at this point. Please send any healing
>thoughts you can spare our way.
>
>Thanks, Peg
>
>Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA
>http://www.elltel.net/kffjord/
>

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: western shank bit

2003-09-29 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here is more on the Tteam training roller bit:
http://www.tellingtonttouch.com/rollerbit.shtml

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: western shank bit

2003-09-29 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Fred, it is called the "training bit" on Linda Tellington Jones website
http://lindatellingtonjones.com/store/index.htm

I have one in my bit collection.  The way Linda advises to use it is with
two reins. I havew the 5 1/2" which I will sell if anybody is
interested...Would like to get the 5 3/4"
 
  "Training Bit
  Used in TTEAM Training, this bit is
  especially effective for horses who are heavy
  on the forehand, strung out, ewe-necked and
  stiff in the back or hind quarters. The stainless
  steel bit has a 7" shank with a copper roller
  and is designed to be used with two reins. The
  shank is loose and curved back, which has a
  softening effect on the mouth, poll and back.
  Sizes: 5, 5-1/2 and 5-3/4 inch mouthpiece"

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, "indian summer"..will be 60 degrees this week!
Winter is delayed.
>Hope,
>
>No pictures of the bit on your web site...
>
>Fred
>


Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Vies Vilde

2003-09-29 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi all -

Vilde is still not herself today, with a temp of 102.3. She is in pain, but
has passed stool and the oil from the vet's tubing yesterday. We fed her
this morning, but then she just wanted to lie down. No rolling, and she did
get up and walk readily.

Her blood work is normal. Respiration is up a little. Plenty of gut sounds.
Her temp was down 2 degrees after the vet gave her Banamine.

We are worried, but not panicked at this point. Please send any healing
thoughts you can spare our way.

Thanks, Peg

Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA
http://www.elltel.net/kffjord/