Re: link to Sher's Loki & herd pictures...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wonderful pics, Sher..thanks for sharing:) Linda in MN
horse trailers
This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We are finally in the market for a horse trailer to haul Harrison Fjord around. Are there any brands that I should AVOID? Steel or aluminum? Harrison will be attending his first horse camp with my daughter on Thursday (with a borrowed trailer). He had to be evaluated by two people before he was okayed for camp. They were both very impressed with "what a good boy he is". :^) Tamara Rousso Fallbrook CA www.algedifarm.com
Video Camera for Horse Trailer
This message is from: "Skeels, Mark A (MED)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A year or so ago someone sent a couple messages on video cameras. I am looking for a inexpensive model, I have seen them on the internet, but don't know which ones are any good. I would like a model that has a small camera I could put back in the horse trailer, and a small 12 volt monitor/tv for the cab. It could be either wireless or have the control/video cable draped to the trailer from the cab, don't matter. If anybody knows of a wireless that has a good image with no interference that would be preferable. Anybody have any good suggestions. Thanks: Mark
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #134
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The coyote that the fjord mare killed, "mushed" was worrying a mare (quarter horse I believe) and her foal and the fjord broke through the fence to kill the coyote. This was on this list. Jean G. Author "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 46-49 Send $20 to: PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
link to Sher's Loki & herd pictures...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those following the thread - if you'd like to see the pictures of Loki (and his new herd mates) - just click on the link here: www.RockyMountainTrails.net/Horses.html The photo of the herd grazing together was taken on Loki's third day home - he's "melted" into their little group surprisingly without a fuss! :-) One of Loki back when he was Ken McNabb's horse, in one of their 5day wagon train trips. Another that is a front-on, showing how wide he is. Well, ah, showing how wide we both are! (grin) So, that would make us a *pair* of chunkie monkies! LOL I am 4'11" tall - he's measured at 14.1 h tall. Other pics, too... Best wishes, Sher in Aurora, CO
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #134
This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tuesday, June 15, 2004, at 08:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: coyotes prefer dead already, don't they? Isn't this right? I can testify that coyotes do not prefer dead, but do prefer small and helpless. I lost 2 drakes and a 14 year old dog to coyotes this spring. It is hard for me to imagine that a coyote would try and attack a horse unless it was sooo hungry that it had taken leave of its senses. Coyotes are opportunists and self-preservationists by nature. Tamara Rousso Fallbrook CA www.algedifarm.com
Re: Wildlife question
This message is from: "Les D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Catherine We live in the mountains of Northern California and our newspaper just last week had an article about cougars. We have seen lots of tracks and I warn my wife about her hikes in the woods. But when we have small foals we keep them in. Last winter our deer herd was staying out of our fields so I thought that maybe we had a cat in the area. You said bears as if they were no problem but they like meat too. A neighbor had to kill 2 this year that came in and ate chickens, and a turkey. They have also carried off some llamas and sheep. The hills are wilder then you think be careful. We pasture our horses on the edge of the bush near where they have been seen & I don't know if we should be concerned about their safety. Sorry if this sounds like a silly question, but black bears are one thing, cougars are something totally new to us. Les & Margaret H. Callahan,Ca
Rangers New Home
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ranger the stallion from Bo Fjords has found a new home in Craig Colorado. He has settled in quite nicely. He is one of six Fjords at the Off Your Rocker Ranch. It was a pleasure doing business with Larry Boe. I would recommend him to anyone looking for Fjords. Tom S. Off Your Rocker Ranch Craig, Colorado
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #134
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/15/04 9:59:34 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: coyotes prefer dead already, don't they? Isn't this right? At least that is what I was told to teach in my Horse Sense Class when I worked at the horse camp. Nope, I have seen coyotes take rabbits, cats, dogs and chickens all of them very much alive. I have coyotes all around me and see them often, but have never heard of them taking livestock, I think they stay with smaller prey. We have had mountain lions around this year for the first time since I moved here 11 years ago, they have been taking dogs, going into yards to get them and once one out for a walk with its owner. Sue Sue Clark-Sorger Sandia Park (in the Sandia Mountains) New Mexico
Re: Wildlife question
This message is from: Reuben Titus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't live where they do,(at least not much, but there have been confirmed sightings, a friend saw one cross his path in daylight when riding a 4wheeler a few years ago.) I'm in the eastern mtns. but have read about them some. One case was where a couger was attacking a pair of draft horses in a corral, they made a comotion attracting owners attention, the man tried to chase it away and it attacked the man instead, mans wife managed to chase it away, the man was injored badly (but recovered,) the mt. lion was tracked by game officials and shot, it was winter and lion was thin and hungry. So I'd say the young horses would be in danger, the grown ones only if the predator gets really hungry, or finds them in a convenient place, with them being safer if thay're in a pasture where thay can escape. Or they might be resonably safe if there are no trees in or next to the pasture that a lion could spring from. Also most horses will sense or smell the presence of a mt. lion and! get away from it if thay can. I've read where a horse being ridden would get nervous long before the rider saw the source of the problem. But they could still surprise a horse if the wind was going the other way. RT Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:02:24 -0400 From: ulli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Wildlife question This message is from: ulli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Listers, I noticed that several of you live in the mountains & I have a question about cougars. My neighbor saw two cougars (wild, not zoo escapees) in his back yard & they seem to include our farm as part of their territory. We pasture our horses on the edge of the bush near where they have been seen & I don't know if we should be concerned about their safety. Sorry if this sounds like a silly question, but black bears are one thing, cougars are something totally new to us. cheers! Catherine (in South/Central Ontario - east end of Lake Ontario) _ Get your free horse related email. - http://www.horsemail.com -
Re: lifespan
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My 17 year old gelding that I raised from birth is in his prime! (I still consider him to be my baby, can't beleive it has been 17 years!) I have an old gelding, Bjarne, 29, who looked pretty poor a year ago..very thin, etc. After senior feed, joint supplments and other supplements he looks great this year, gained weight, shiny coat, etc. Has some stiffness when he gets up (don't we all?) and I don't ride him any more..but he had a hard life before I got him. Stella is 27 and still in great shape..regular feed, no lameness. I plan to get driving her again this summer. Many Fjord mares have continued breeding successfully well into their 20's. Don't pass up good sound Fjords who are in their teens! Jean in sunny Fairbanks, Alaska, gonna be Hot today, 85 degrees >Lately I have noticed some older Fjords (like 19) going for high prices. What >is the general age span for a Fjord? How long can they be bred or lightly >ridden? >I would like to eventually buy a trained Fjord (that 19 year old seemed >perfect for me!), Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #134
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cougars (like cats) prefer ledges or other things up high in tree's. They wait for their prey to walk near, then they jump down on top of the horses back and bite into the neck, withers. Try to get them to fall down. Wolves group up, and chase the horse, and when the horse shows that it's tired, they move in, and grab at the hind legs, hoping to break tendons so the horse cannot run, then falls down. coyotes prefer dead already, don't they? Isn't this right? Atleast that is what I was told to teach in my Horse Sense Class when I worked at the horse camp. Jennie http://fjordbonnie.tripod.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Winter .jpg]
donations for Ron Davis Memorial
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I should add to the other post - If there is anyone whom would like to donate to the memorial fund and are not attending Blue Earth you can send a donation to me. The names of all sponsors will be noted and presented to Kit privately. When sending for the memorial please note that on the check, I am receiving entries for the show and need to keep it seperate. Send to Pat Holland 3601 South Irish Hollow Road Hanover, Illinois 61041
Re: lifespan
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lately I have noticed some older Fjords (like 19) going for high prices. What is the general age span for a Fjord? How long can they be bred or lightly ridden? I would like to eventually buy a trained Fjord (that 19 year old seemed perfect for me!), but we are on horse overload right now with my recent PMUs. I have a broken down Arab that was ridden 4H a lot when she was young (barrel racing, etc). I bought her when she was about 14, but she was OLD and unridable by 20. If I were to spend a lot of money for an older horse, I would like to know that generally they are usable for a number of years after purchase. Patty
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #134
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/14/04 10:15:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Some how remembering the fjord > mare that attacked a coyote and " mushed it" I would hope the fjords could > standtheir ground. Jean G > I think coyotes and cougars fight way differently!
Re: Kg Gjestar II & Loki
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry took me a bit of time to answer - am catching up more, today! This is the "birthday party season" - my little pony ride business is working 4-6 days a week, this time of year. So, all the things I can't get to (oh, like house chores, training time, etc) - have to play catch up on my "off" days. :-) That makes for a bit longer to get to the emails. :-) "...King Gjestar ...died a few years back but his son, King Gjestar II is (Ginny's) current breeding stallion. I own a King Gjestar II son, Crown Oak Keswick...So your boy and mine are related" Thank you so much for telling me some about Loki's family tree! I really *do* enjoy hearing about his past. Any part of it! Whenever I hear anything about Loki, his family background, or Ken McNabb (the original trainer / worked with Loki for years) -- I am printing it off. Have a folder, just for him! I heard just a little bit from Keith Perry - who had him for about 8 months. Keith had bought Loki for haying on his large ranch in Wyoming - but during last winter, they decided to give up the farm and move into town. So, very lucky me!, that's how Loki comes to live with us! "...Congratulations on your finally getting your fjord I know you have waited a long time..." Thank you, again! I'd given up that it would ever happen. Normally, the average adult trained-to-ride Fjord is so far out of my finances, was fearing it would just never happen. Then Keith was very generous with Loki - and now he's home. He really *is* my dream horse come true! Going to catch up on emails - then will post Loki's pics to the list, for anyone who'd like to see him. Made a webpage for my herd - mostly it's showing Loki (big grin). Sher in CO
Re: Ron Davis memorial at Blue Earth
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It's been a couple of weeks since Ron Davis' passing and I'd like to let > other people on the list who couldn't make it to the service that how > nice it was. Thank you Mark for you nice post about Ron and he and Kits horses. I highly recommend the purchase of any horse from their breeding program. If there is Rokita in the pedigree you are assured a good solid minded horse with a good work ethic. The MWFHC has allowed for a memorial service for Ron to be held prior to The Four Horse Hitch Class which is class 27. It should be late afternoon Tuesday the 27th of July. Ron was preparing a four in hand and Kit will be there with them. Rich Hotovy will say a few words and Philis Anderson will present a song or two on her Oboe - as she did at his funeral - because of the distance, many of us whom would have liked to have gone to his funeral could not. We are offering this time to honor a member, and show respect for a true breeder. Kit I know will appreciate and gather strength for what all of us can only imagine as a difficult time for her without her partner. A group of us are sponsoring a memorial trophy in honor of Ron. The first of which will be presented to the winner of the Four Horse Hitch class this year. I am ordering a special trophy engraved. I will be accepting donations at Blue Earth. All monies above the cost of this years trophy will go into a fund to purchase and maintained this memorial. Those of you attending the Blue Earth Show please make a point of attending this memorial, for those of you whom were on the fence about attending Blue Earth, I extend a heartfelt invitation to make the trip THIS year to be a part of this very special event. We all have busy other lives and its hard to get away, but perhaps this is a call to all of us to come together as a horse group to comfort a friend and show respect for an individual who made a difference. See you in Blue Earth Pat Holland
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #134
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/14/04 10:15:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I noticed that several of you live in the mountains & I have a question > about cougars. Where I live in Wa State, every year a horse or two is attacked and usually killed by a cougar. When there are sightings going on, people tend to pull their livestock up closer to the house at night or put them in the barn. But if they are really hungry, they can easily jump a 6 foot fence. You just want it to be easier to hunt elsewhere. Patty
CDE In British Columbia
This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear list from Brian Jensen; Ursula and I just returned from completing the 2004 CDE at Pritchard BC. The Ranch; site of the CDE is located on a high plateau overlooking the Thompson River valley offering unbelievable vistas. This is a Pacific Rim sanctioned event using ADS rules and ADS/FEI judges. We all camped in a huge field surrounded by high mountain meadows and wild flowers. Although the weather was threatening it gave us the needed windows of opportunity to do the three phases without getting wet. Holly and Larry Brinker; FEI Judges from Langley judged the Event. This year about 20 entrants competed with all sizes and kinds of horses. From Warmbloods to Canadians to Welsh, and us with our 5 Fjords. Ursula drove her stallion Penfrydd's Raynor in Preliminary Test Two Dressage which is actually one of my favourite tests. It is also the Advanced Driving Test in the NFHR Evaluation Program. Ursula and Raynor drove one of their best tests yet scoring a 42 in Dressage and taking one ball down in cones. The score of 42 stood the test time over the day emerging as the best overall dressage score against all breeds and at all the levels. She and Raynor have established themselves as the ones to watch for Driven Dressage in this area. I drove the four-in-hand, scoring a 48 in Driven Dressage, and not quite making the L clean in the cones course. Folks said the four looked good and there was a lot of unison. The marathon was great for us although I came home with a few chunks off a wagon seat and some tree bark as a memento of the occasion. No red E for either of us in the marathon which is always a relief. At the awards ceremony Ursula was awarded Best Dressage Score Trophy, and I won the Multiples division plus receiving the CDEs Sportsmanship award. It is always nice to return home safe and sound and just sit and watch the video of the Event. This is what memories are made of and certainly the Fjords are not to be ignored at CDEs in this area. The video of the Event is available from us. It is amateur quality but gives a good reflection of a CDE and the happenings over three days. It is just over 30 minutes long and does have some nice shots plus also a few colourful comments by the video camera handler. Contact us privately at Trinity Fjords if you are interested in buying one. Brian Jensen Ursula & Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC, V0E 2G0 Canada 250-547-6303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/
Re: Wildlife question
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Unrau's whole Fjord herd became much more wary and the herd behavior changed after the cougar attacks there, according to Anita. Is Anita reading the list? Tell the details! I don't think it would be a good idea for a Fjord to stand it's ground with a cougar! As for Coyotes, My old mare Stella has killed dogs, according to Anita. I haven't given her the chance to do that here, but I have seen a fox wandering around the corral with no reaction from the horses.Lately a Sandhill Crane has been keeping them company. picking around the corral, especioally where I throw a handful of grain!. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still warm and light out at almost midnight..Doesn't get dark now. >A young horse was killed here two years ago by a cougar. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
