Re: fjords / drafts

[Tamara Rousso]

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Well that makes sense.  He is a very sweet horse.  The trainer told me 
today that we won't find a nicer horse.  That made me very happy.


Tamara, proud "mom" of Harrison Fjord
Fallbrook Ca

On Monday, August 16, 2004, at 05:34 PM, jgayle wrote:

Tamara, your statement about your guy being a laid back kind of guy 
might

explain his relaxing with sedation

Know this horse?

[JandJ84]

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Hi,
 
I am new to fjordhorse; I've been lurking for a couple of weeks. We have  one 
fjord, named Hakon, out of Fair Acre's Gunnar and Nanna. Does anyone know  
this horse? We have had him since November, but don't know his history. He is  
friendly and a pleasure to ride. We were told that he drives, but do not have  
experience in that area. We live in central California and don't see many 
other  fjords around here.
 
Thanks, Julie Young Andrews

hurricane charlie

[Vicki and Tony Johnston]

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my computer isn't recognizing the shift key - a post-traumatic hurricane 
syndrome i'm sure.  we were without power for 3 full days.  i'm over 
hurricanes and ready to move to the frozen north again where firewood 
and a woodstove can reasonably avert a crisis.  we went out friday night 
to discover that we had a tree down taking out a critical section of 
fence.  after the 80 mile/hr winds that we endured - at best guess - 
since they were clocked that high after it passed through - we had to do 
fence repair from midnight to 1 am.  the horses were freaked out and 
when we went out in daylight on saturday morning we understood why.  the 
fence had actually been hit in 3 locations and the pasture area of about 
1-1 1/2 acres had at leat 7 large pines uprooted and an oak snapped 
off.  there were a number of trees in addition to those didn't hit the 
ground, but are hung up in other trees.  in short, it is a mess.  i know 
there are fjord people in geneva, florida, and i believe they may be in 
even worse shape.


i am happy that chocko is in illinois with pat.  our arab mare surely 
would have warped his psyche since she was sure that the world was 
coming to an end.


any other hurricane charlie reports??

vicki johnston
mims, florida

p.s.  i am looking forward to sending my resume to more sensible 
climates.  contacts welcomed.  :-)

Fjords in IBHA (nope)

[RkyMtnTrls]

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Well, out of curiosity, I wrote an email to IBHA -- and asked:
 
"...I heard, and would like feedback from IBHA, pretty please!;-)that 
 Fjords might be eligible in the IBHA  ?..."
 
The reply from the IBYA was:
 
"...Dear Ms. Olson,
In the past, there has been much discussion and debate, within the  committee 
of IBHA as to whether a Fjord horse in fact a draft type horse or not.  it 
was realized that the fjord was ridden as well as used as a drag horse. It  was 
decided that the Fjord had enough "light draft" horse characteristics to not  
be considered a western stock type saddle horse At this time the registration  
committee is not accepting the Fjord horses for registration. 
Thank you, IBHA  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  "
 
So, that's from the IBHA's contact email it's self.  Looks like a "no  go" 
for Fjords there.  I'm surprised, would have geussed it not to be a  question 
at 
all, after reading their coloring descriptions.
 
It's a shame - there's really no Fjord get togethers / activities around  
here (unless one is associated with StarFire Farm, as I understand it).   This 
is 
not a complaint - just disappointed.  My boy came from WY, do I  don't have 
any breeder ties.  I'm a trail rider, no competition stuff --  and would like 
to get together with other local Fjord owners, for trail  riding, that sort of 
thing.  :-)
 
Am waiting to hear back from ABA 
 
Happy trails!
Sher in Aurora, CO
 
Like to ride weekdays?  Colorado  
_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COWeekdayRider/_ 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COWeekdayRider/) 
Trail book for equestrians, Colorado
_http://RockyMountainTrails.net/Book.html_ 
(http://rockymountaintrails.net/Book.html) 

Re: Saddle

[Epona1971]

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In a message dated 8/16/2004 12:21:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have been  turned on to the 
Bob Marshall Saddle.  

Does anyone have one for sale?  


** Hi Patricia-

Yes, they cost a lot, but it's a good investment that should last you years. 
Any good leather saddle will cost at least $1000 so it's not just the 
"different" ones  in that price range. 

I would not recommend you buy a Bob Marshall on eBay for two reasons: one, 
the saddle may be the lower quality mass-produced Circle Y version, two, the 
saddles keep their value so you may pay close to full price for a used saddle! 
www.sportsaddle.com has a list of genuine custom made used saddles for sale. 
The 
distributor Gerri is great to work with. A friend of mine has the opposite 
problem -- she is a very small person -- Western saddle seats felt like boats 
to 
her and even raised all the way up, the stirrups were too long. Gerri helped 
her pick saddle options that will fit her body type (as well as her horse).


/ )_~
/L/L
Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
www.Brigid.Clickryder.com

Re: fjords / drafts

[jgayle]

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Tamara, your statement about your guy being a laid back kind of guy might
explain his relaxing with sedation whereas my Gunnar has been abused and
spoiled by other owners and was a handful when I first got him.  Now he is
only grumpy half the time and always obedient under saddle but let the Vet
show up and he tenses up again.  Jean G.






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Re: Cynthia's post/crossbreeding

[Ruth Bushnell]

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 .>>I could've ended up with something that looked like it was made of
mismatched parts, but I lucked out and got a nice, proportional colt with a
good blend of  traits from each parent.   It was a risk but I was willing to
take it>> .  Amy

You've brought up a very good point here Amy, in your valid contribution to
this discussion, and that point is that cross breeding involves degrees of
risk, the element of luck, experimentation! Any cross breeding experiment
gone-wrong is most likely destined for rescue or elimination. Your
philosophy on cross breeding is admirably sensible, about not using
cross-breds to breed, unfortunately... mares are not spayed and can
sometimes fall into careless ownership... then more chance 'experimentation'
in a country already overrun with unwanted surplus animals.

Ruthie, nw mt

RE: Stand still

[jerrell friz]

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> WE take young horses, be it fjords or other along to local shows, tie
them to
> the trailer for the day 
---
Excellent idea Janne

Regards,
Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca.

Re: Trail Ride @ Mariposa Farm

[Mariposa Farm]

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Got you down Suzan

Mark

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Count me in.

Suzan Johnson

The world is so empty if one thinks only of mountains, rivers and cities; but
to know someone here and there who thinks and feels with us, and though
distant, is close to us in spirit --- this makes the earth for us an inhabited
garden.
— Johann von Goethe

Re: ponying

[Linda Lottie]

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DeeAnn..yes, mayhem forsure!  And, we came close but good ole' Sven -
he just took it all in stride and did not move.  I remember tieing Hasse
as a baby to Lena and ponying him as my daughter rode Lena...but,
leading is a better choice now that he is bigger. 

Well, another tale of fjords taking care of the humans.   I would not
have even tried to take Hasse had it not been for Sven...I know
him/he knows meand all is well. 

Thanks for the much wanted advice..Linda in MN

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >To:
fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >Subject: Re: ponying >Date: Mon, 16 Aug
2004 13:26:39 -0500 > >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Linda
wrote: >"...where should we tie him if we want to pony him along side or
>behind the cart? Or, should I just lead him as I did today?..." > >I'm
no expert, but I've always understood that a person should never >tie a
ponied horse to the saddle. The lead rope should be held just >as you
would when leading a horse on foot. > >I would think the rule would be
the same for a horse being ponied >from a cart. > >I shudder to think of
the mayhem should a ponied horse get into >trouble, and the driver/rider
could not get the lead rope loose to >control the horse or let it go
free. > >DeeAnna



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Re: My Quarter Horse/Fjord Cross

[Holly Tuck]

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Hi Jean,
To answer your question, yes she does to some degree. 
Skye is quite content to be off by her side.  The only
thing I do notice though that if Skye is associating
with anyone it is my QH cross.  So I guess to some
degree there must be something there.
Holly--- jgayle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Holly does your pure Fjord recognize the cross as
> different?  

Re: Cynthia's post/crossbreeding

[Amy Goodloe]

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At 3:40 PM -0400 8/16/04, Donna Kelly wrote:

 One of the problems with crossbreeding, is that the resulting offsprings
genotype can be far different from its phenotype. Which is not a problem
unless you breed the resulting offspring.


I think attitudes towards cross breeding probably vary based on 
whether one is primarily a rider, or primarily a breeder.  I can see 
how those more oriented towards breeding would be concerned about 
cross breeding because of the possibility that the crosses will 
themselves will be bred.  But I don't think there's much risk of that.


Most people who want to produce a cross bred choose to do in order to 
produce a riding horse, not breeding stock.  And even most cross 
breeding programs that I know of are all first generation -- no one 
tries to produce a second generation UNLESS they're trying to produce 
a new breed, as with the Spotted Drafts or Spanish Normans.  But most 
people who cross breed aren't doing that.


For example, the Percheron/TB cross makes an excellent sport horse, 
but most of the breeders who specialize in this cross keep it to the 
first generation, or if they breed the crosses, they breed them back 
to a Percheron OR a TB.  If they started breeding Perch/TB crosses to 
other Perch/TB crosses, they'd probably end up with all kinds of odd 
results.  And that would be missing the point of the original cross, 
which has its value for being part pure Percheron and part pure TB.


That's not to say people won't breed crosses to outside breeds, but 
again, not to create a new breed.  For example, I had a 
Connemara/Trakehner mare I bred to an Andalusian stallion because he 
suited her better than any Trakehner or Connemara stallion I knew of 
-- and the cross produced a stunning colt.  The Andalusian is another 
breed that crosses well and improves nearly any breed it's bred to. 
But this colt is a "dead end" -- he's not meant to be used for 
breeding (and will be gelded accordingly).


I would guess that most people who are interested in owning or 
producing a Fjord cross bred are not necessarily interested in 
breeding it.  The value of the cross bred is as a riding horse that, 
ideally, blends the best of both breeds.  They don't all get the best 
from both, to be sure, but those interested in crosses are usually 
willing to take that gamble.  I bred my Percheron mare to a QH 
stallion in hopes of producing a medium-height stout stock type horse 
to show on the local IBHA circuit.  I could've ended up with 
something that looked like it was made of mismatched parts, but I 
lucked out and got a nice, proportional colt with a good blend of 
traits from each parent.   It was a risk but I was willing to take it 
in order to get a foal out of this mare, because there's so much 
about her I like (except I prefer to ride somewhat smaller horses).


It may well be that the genetics of the Fjord just don't cross well 
with other breeds, or it could be that those who have done cross 
breeding haven't made the best breeding choices or used the best 
quality examples of the breed, given how unpopular the idea is.  For 
example, I would think that a Fjord crossed with a larger draft type 
horse would make more sense than, say, crossing a Fjord with a TB or 
QH, just because the types are more similar.  But then again, a 
Fjord/TB cross might give some people the best of both worlds without 
having to turn the purebred Fjord into a tall, lean sport horse type.


I'm not advocating Fjord cross breeding.  I don't even own a Fjord 
and have no stake in the issue.  If the registry has a policy against 
it, that's fine by me and I will not try to seek out the elusive 
Fjord stallion that cross breeds (I've heard of a few).  I'd just as 
soon abide by registry rules.  However, I do think it's good to keep 
discussing the pros and cons of cross breeding just so everyone is 
more informed on what it's really all about and why people might be 
interested in it.


--Amy

Re: Trail Ride @ Mariposa Farm

[SSlotness]

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Count me in.

Suzan Johnson

The world is so empty if one thinks only of mountains, rivers and cities; but
to know someone here and there who thinks and feels with us, and though
distant, is close to us in spirit --- this makes the earth for us an inhabited
garden.
— Johann von Goethe

Trail Ride @ Mariposa Farm

[Mariposa Farm]

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Hello Everybody,

I've heard from some of you and we moved the weekend to the second one 
in October.



The trail ride is scheduled for the second week of October - which is 
the 9th and 10th



Arrive Saturday morning to noon at Mariposa Farm (RSVP for directions).  
We have room (stalls) for 7-8 horses and a little pasture space for some 
more.  We'd like to fill up the space with Fjords first (and trail 
riders) but if they don't fill, other breeds are welcome.  Just give me 
a call.  Of course there is unlimited space for the trail rides if you 
aren't needing space or staying the night at Mariposa.


Lunch at Mariposa (we'll supply food and soft drinks)

Early afternoon: Trailer horses to a Chequamegon National Forest 
recreation area which is about 6 miles from our farm. The trails we like 
best are cross-country ski trails. Trail rides can vary in length from 
short to long depending on individual choice (we like to do a loop that 
is 10K and then see how the horses are doing).  For those of you who 
want to drive, there are some nice forest roads but there are ATV's on 
these roads as well.  The footing is mostly sand.  The ski trails are 
mostly sand and grass with some occasional rock.  No ATV's are allowed 
on the ski trails although we will cross some trails that ATV's can be 
on.  Mostly, they are very considerate of horses.  The trails are wide 
enough for a cart but the terrain can be rugged (steep in places).  I 
have driven a cart on some of them and it was exciting.  For all of you 
marathon lovers, these would be good training!! We should be back to 
Mariposa around 6:00 or 7:00 pm


Saturday Night:  Set up camping / trailers for those staying overnight 
and after we are done with this we can have a potluck dinner and campfire.


Sunday Morning:  Chores (feed, water and clean stalls).  Breakfast at 
local small restaurant 2 miles away (9:30 am?).  Back to farm and load 
up the horses to ride again.


If this looks interesting to you please email or call back and let me 
know if (and when) you would be arriving, how many horses/riders and if 
you need electrical hookup.  I only have 15 amp circuits so I can't have 
a huge load but we can work something out I bet.  1st come 1st served 
for stall space.  Of course, neg. Coggins tests are required.




This weekend is also the same as Ashland's Whistle Stop Marathon (sorry 
no horses are allowed I guess)   Ashland is 10 miles to the south. 


Thanks and please RSVP for directions.

Mark McGinley

Mariposa Farm
Washburn, WI 54891
715-373-2906
292-2909 cell

www.mariposafarm.com 

Re: Cynthia's post/crossbreeding

[Donna Kelly]

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 One of the problems with crossbreeding, is that the resulting offsprings
genotype can be far different from its phenotype. Which is not a problem
unless you breed the resulting offspring.  One of the factors might be how
different are the two individuals that you used for the original
crossbreeding. Also I have noticed that certain breeds seem to be able to
blend with another breed better than others. The fjords might be so dominate
in certain traits that crossbreeding is not going to produce a well
proportioned individual especially in succeeding crosses.

Just my thoughts,
Donna Kelly
Germansville, PA



  This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  You mentioned seeing a reasonably sound crossbred that was not overly
spindly.
  I thought I might comment on that observation, that in the research I did
on
  crossbreeding last year, I found references which indicated that often the
  FIRST cross is acceptably satisfactory.. but with successive random
breedings
  the product increasingly lessens. So this might be one of those cases of
  shortsightedly choosing "short term gratification versus long term
security."

Saddle

[Renzprev]

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I want to thank everybody that gave me sage wisdom about my saddle  quest.  I 
am a "big" girl and have a normal size fjord.  I have been  turned on to the 
Bob Marshall Saddle.  
 
Does anyone have one for sale?  They are expensive saddles and if I  could 
find a used one in my size (18.5" I think) that would be great.  I  have tried 
ebay and will continue to watch for one that fits.  Any other  ideas?
 
Patricia Baker

Re: Fjord Type--Riding--Driving--Draft

[Myriam/Ptite_marmotte]

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PROTECTED]>

Hello!

I would like to answer to Ursula & Brian Jensen 's
mail because we have had the same interessant debate
with french fjords owners on a french forum about
fjord horse.

Here, the trend is about 2 types of fjords: a taller
and more fine fjord (more than 1m50) , and a smaller
and more fine  fjord, who have a classical pony
morphology ( 1m30).

In september 2004, the fjord horse has become a
"horse", before he was a pony here,this a proof of
changes about fjord type in France.

My fjord have a typical fjord morphology, he has
Nederland origins.But many french breeders make birth
fjords which have the type that buyers want, so they
are often more fine.

In "Eurocheval", a big horse meeting ( in Offenbourg,
Germany),many fjords were more tall than the original
type.

Fortunately, they are still breeders who respect the
original type!I wish that in the future,there will
exist still breeders like them.

 
I know that the genetic point of view is for the
diversity of the types, but I thank all breeders who
preserve the typical morphology of fjords horses, that
I think is the best.

Thank you Ursula & Brian Jensen .

Myriam
Toulouse (France)
http://poneyfjord.free.fr





 --- Ursula & Brian Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a
écrit : 
> This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Dear List From Brian Jensen;
>Thankyou Lori for your comments.
> I totally agree with
> you. When Ursula and I do Clinics for Fjord owners
> and breeders we always
> use the Norwegian picture of 1890 depicting Njal #
> 166, and Kare # 189 as
> examples of what a Fjord is. When I go to Fjord
> shows and Evaluations I am
> seeing today this type and style of the Norwegian
> Fjords as they were 114
> years ago.
>The caveat here is that over the
> last 114 years the
> Fjords have went through changes as ---NEED Begets
> TYPE--- As Lori mentioned
> the European Fjords have had many different demands
> asked of them over the
> last 100 years---and have survived them all in fine
> fashion. It is very
> possible to say that the modern Fjord of today is
> closer to Njal and Kare
> than ever before.
> I encourage all owners and breeders
> to research the Fjord
> breed, or go to Norway--- home of the Fjord. If you
> are not able to travel
> to Europe attend an NFHR Evaluation, and download
> the Evaluation Program
> from the NFHR website. The NFHR has computer and
> printed information on
> results of past Evaluations.
> Brian Jensen
> Ursula & Brian Jensen
> Trinity Fjords
> Box 1032
> Lumby BC, V0E 2G0
> Canada 250-547-6303
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/
>  






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RE: Rein back

[The Mercers]

This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thank Cynthia,

A show committee member from an open show had told me there was a difference
between "backing your horse for the judge" and a "rein back" but I couldn't
figure it out from the descriptions I'd read.

Evidently they were wrong.

Taffy Mercer
Kennewick, WA

Looking forward to Libby in less than a month!




>This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There is an excellent description of the rein back in driving in the ADS
handbook on pg. 16 of the General Rules section at
http://www.americandrivingsociety.org/forms/ADS_Forms.htm< 

Re: Buckskin

[spiekath]

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- Original Message -
From: Douglas Knutsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:19 pm
Subject: Buckskin

>Just a note from Yuli - everything is going fine - she is growing into her 
>head.  She is a very very pale grey-buttermilk color-yellowish on the neck and 
>almost pure white onn the body.  The eelstripe has almost disappeared - a few 
>grey hairs and right next to it is a band of pure white-on either side of the 
>strip.  The mid part of mane and tail are both grey rather than the black of 
>the regular Fjord.  Her head is dark with clown marks and the marks on her 
>legs are bown/grey.  Do you know if she will darken with age.  Right now she 
>appears to be intermediate between a white-dun and a grey dun.  She looks like 
>the pictures of the white dun except for the coloring on her head.  She will 
>be pretty either this color or darker- actually pretty striking right now.   
>Just thought you might know how the color developes in greys. 

Kathy 

Cynthia's post

[Ruth Bushnell]

This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I've lost your earlier post about seeing a good Arab-Fjord cross Cynthia,
looked once again for the archives to retrieve it but they don't seem to work
any more? (not for me anyhow, is anyone else successful?).

You mentioned seeing a reasonably sound crossbred that was not overly spindly.
I thought I might comment on that observation, that in the research I did on
crossbreeding last year, I found references which indicated that often the
FIRST cross is acceptably satisfactory.. but with successive random breedings
the product increasingly lessens. So this might be one of those cases of
shortsightedly choosing "short term gratification versus long term security."

Ruthie, nw mt

Re: ponying

[coyote]

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Linda wrote:
"...where should we tie him if we want to pony him along side or behind 
the cart? Or, should I just lead him as I did today?..."


I'm no expert, but I've always understood that a person should never tie 
a ponied horse to the saddle. The lead rope should be held just as you 
would when leading a horse on foot.


I would think the rule would be the same for a horse being ponied from a 
cart.


I shudder to think of the mayhem should a ponied horse get into trouble, 
and the driver/rider could not get the lead rope loose to control the 
horse or let it go free.


DeeAnna

RE: Fjords recognizing Fjords

[Cynthia Madden]

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Tank was very bonded with my Morgan, Keyah, and when they showed together, he 
was bonded with Steve's Morgan, Pferd - actually he was Pferd's shadow all the 
time and transferred this to Keyah when we came to New Mexico. This did not 
prevent him from instantly recognizing other Fjords when we are in their 
vicinity. They just don't discriminate against other breeds but always seem to 
recognize their own.
 
I have noticed that when separated from their pals such as overnights at shows 
or clinics (like this weekend), horses of all breeds seem to bond with their 
neighbors for the short period they are near each other. It is such a strong 
instinct. Tank was next to a pinto mare all weekend while he was a lesson horse 
at our club clinic and they always nickered at each other when one was removed 
from or returned to a neighboring pen.
 
BTW, Tank again received kudo's from the the clinician as well as people who 
drove him for his patience and tolerance. He is a perfect horse for beginner's 
and much admired in our little driving co   
   
mmunity.Ourclubhasbeenfocusingonprovidingdrivingexperiencesforpeoplenewtodrivingorwannabees.ItistheonlywaytobuildinterestindrivingandTankandNigeldareImentionacrossbredArabFjordherewithnospindlylegsareresponsibleformanynewmembers.


Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
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RE: Rein back

[Cynthia Madden]

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Taffy,
There is an excellent description of the rein back in driving in the ADS 
handbook on pg. 16 of the General Rules section at 
http://www.americandrivingsociety.org/forms/ADS_Forms.htm
 
I tried to copy it but the pdf program wouldn't let me in this instance. BTW, 
this section of the ADS handbook also has a excellent descriptionof the gaits 
in driving (for pleasure driving). This handbook has lots of useful information 
and can be accessed online.
 
Hope this helps.


Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
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RE: Breeding Fjords

[Brad & Kelly Baird]

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I was on this list for a while a couple of years ago, when we were looking
for Fjords.  We picked up a couple of fillies then, and really love them.
When we changed emails we never managed to transfer our 'subscription' to
the new email, so we've lost touch until now.
Just last month we had our young ladies bred, and I'm eager to see new
Fjords next Spring.  Previous to their breeding we had several discussions
with different folks about them, and I'm just curious to know whether
there's a consensus on whether we made the 'right' choice.
Katie and Kandi are about as different as Fjords can be.  Katie is tall and
graceful, probably about 16 hands with excellent movement.  Kandi is a more
'traditional' Fjord, with beautiful features and muscling.  Our debate
centered on whether we should accent their unique character, breeding Katie
to a tall 'dressage' stallion and Kandi to a drafty one, use 'corrective
breeding' and breed Katie to a short drafty stallion and Kandi to a tall
dressage type, or breed them both to the best stallion we could find and
hope for the best.  While this year the answer to our question is academic,
we'll be doing the same thing in years to come.  What would you have done?
After I get some answers I'll let you know what we settled on.
Thanks for your insights.
Brad Baird, for the whole gang at Celebration Farm in Southwest Wisconsin.

Convertor for Aussie Saddle to Western Rigging

[RkyMtnTrls]

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Thought I'd share this for those of us who were looking into Aussie saddles  
- but wanted Western rigging.  (We'd talked about convertors - prices were  
going from around $60 down to $25, different sources.)
 
On pg.25, bottom, they have girth convertors for $10.95 on sale (best on  
eBay for same nylon & style that I've seen is $18.00 before shipping.)   
Usually 
$34.95.
 
The description reads - 
"...2 buckle nylon western converter set.  Polished steel heavy  D-ring.  
This converter consists of two billet buckles that fit an English  saddle.  
With 
D-ring attached so you can change the rigging to fit a  western girth.  1" 
wide buckles.  Sold in pairs / need two for  girth..."
 
I don't see a website url in the magazine, but then, I only did a quick  look 
through the catalog.
 
Hope this helps out for the other folks, like myself, who were looking into  
converters!   ;-)
 
 
Happy trails!
Sher in Aurora, CO
 
Like to ride weekdays?  Colorado  
_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COWeekdayRider/_ 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COWeekdayRider/) 
Trail book for equestrians, Colorado
_http://RockyMountainTrails.net/Book.html_ 
(http://rockymountaintrails.net/Book.html) 

Stand still

[Janne]

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WE take young horses, be it fjords or other along to local shows, tie them to
the trailer for the day just to teach them that this is part of life and OK.
So, when the days come where they actually will be part of a show, they are
not all shook up.

Janne

Reining fjords.

[Janne]

This message is from: "Janne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gayle, - you go!!!   I love the reining sport, - would LOVE to see more fjords
in it.  You train them, we'll work on sending you buyers!!!   Would LOVE to
see a reining fjord in the Dakota's.  Big time popular here.

Janne

Re: Big Day for "Hasse"

[Mathilde en Cor Groenewoud]

This message is from: "Mathilde en Cor Groenewoud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I got mail from you, but I do not want to have your mail. Please delete my 
Emailadress from your adresslist. I own a fjordhorse, but I do not know how 
you all know my emailadres.

Kind Regards
Mathilde



From: "Linda Lottie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Re: Big Day for "Hasse"
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 19:12:18 -0500

This message is from: "Linda Lottie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Amy - thanks so much for your response.  I hope to do more of the
ponying..like you said, it gives two horses exercise at the same
time.  Honestly, if I had a team harness I would be tempted to hitch up
the young one..he is such a sweetie and so smart.he catches on so
fast and accepts. 

I will just continue to lead him as it worked out so well.  Dumb
us..heck, we were out on the road due to the bugs.with three cars
that went bylittle Hasse just took them in stride.  We did stop
and "stand" while the cars went by...and as I said.the only
little issue we had with Hasse was that initially he thought it was Play
Time.  Once he figured out we were seriously just "walking along" he got
in the groove..we even trotted a little in the driveway..he was
totally cool:)

Appreciate the helpful infoLinda in MN

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >To:
fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >Subject: Re: Big Day for "Hasse" >Date:
Sun, 15 Aug 2004 19:43:55 EDT > >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>In a message dated 8/14/2004 9:26:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >where should we tie him if we want to
pony him along side or behind the cart? >Or, should I just lead him as I
did today? > > >Hi Linda: > >This is something we do a lot of, whether we
just want to exercise two of the >mares at once or we want to take one of
the kids along. We have always opted >to just lead the extra horse and
not tie them, mostly for safety reasons. We >usually do this out on the
trail only, not on the road where there is traffic, >so if something
should spook the horse being led you can always drop the rope >and not
risk injury from pulling, or damage to a cart/carriage. With our very
>young foals, we will tie them directly to Mom while driving, making sure
they >don't have enough rope to get in front of Mom or to get back to
where they'll >get hit by cart or wheels. > >Amy > > > >Amy Evers >Dun
Lookin' Fjords >Redmond, OR >Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: fjords / drafts

[Tamara Rousso]

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Must just be Harrison is an easy goin' kinda guy then.  Or mine is a 
draft horse, but yours isn't.  Just kidding.


tamara

On Sunday, August 15, 2004, at 06:31 PM, jgayle wrote:


This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Not true Tamara, not all fjords sedate easily.  Mine takes two types of
medicine to get him to where he can be worked on.  Jean G









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