RE: SWEET ITCH

[Barbara Sollner-Webb]

This message is from: Barbara Sollner-Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi!  Karen wrote that she has "the sweet itch Fjord poster child" and asked for 
suggestions.
   Well, my first Icelandic horse has to be the "the sweet itch Icey poster 
child"!  As you probably know, there is considerable competition for this 
title, since so many imported Iceys get sweet itch (SE), generally in their 
second or third summer in the US.  But my guy came down with a massive case of 
sweet itch (SE) already early in his first US summer, and he continues to be 
super-allergic if not treated. But fortunately we figured out a treatment where 
he has virtually no symptoms.
   Since this icey came down with his monster SE case (despite my having 
sprayed diligently with Repel-X) I have devoted considerable effort to 
identifying products that repel culicoides (gnats/midges/no-see-ums, the bug 
whose saliva causes the SE allergy) and that minimize itching from their bites. 
 [After briefly researching SE, it became clear that there was little effective 
known, besides: (1) keeping the horse inside under a good belly-height fan 
every dusk and dawn, (2) treating with a steroid to repress the itching 
(actually, to generally repress the immune system), or (3) having the horse 
wear a Boett blanket (horse pajamas) 24/7 all spring/summer/fall.]
   I first tested various bugsprays, and most did nothing for culicoides.  So 
forget permethrins and pyrethrins.  Swat only helps if you totally coat the 
affected area.  And Skin-So-Soft actually attracts culicoides!  But "FlyGone 
7000" by Horseman's Dream ($34/gal from Jeffers, ) 
works very well to repel these bugs!  At least part of its effect is from 
citronella, but FlyGone 7000 remains effective much longer than using only 
citronella.  Nonetheless, the FlyGone 7000 lasts less than 24 hours, so you do 
need to spray 2x/day.  Religiously!  [Of course spray most on the parts of the 
horse that get the most bites, which varies depending on the culicoides in your 
area.]  Once the SE is under control, that spraying keeps the number of bites 
down to a level that generally the horse stays comfortable with just the 
FlyGone 7000.
   But to get the SE under control (or if you end up missing a day of spraying 
and the horse itches enough to scratch open SE sores), you also want something 
to reduce the itching.  Again, I tried lots of products, and most do minimal.  
Forget calamine lotion and antihistamine cream.  But a product developed by a 
lady in Iceland (originally for her daughter's excema and then modified for 
Iceys in Germany) called "SDS lotion" works wonderfully.  You just dab it on a 
starting sore, and it no longer itches.  For a badly broken out area, apply the 
SDS lotion twice a day for a couple of weeks, along with the FlyGone spraying, 
and it will be healed.  Fortunately, SDS lotion will now be easy to get in the 
states, as Gudamr Petursson, a nice Icelandic trainer in Kentucky, has just 
started marketing it here.  Go to  or call 502-228 
6160.
   I wrote two articles on this treatment in the Icelandic Horse Journal called 
Eidfaxi, and they are easy to get on the  web 
site.
   Good luck!  Let me know how this regime works for you, if you try it.
yours,  Barbara Sollner-Webb (in Maryland)
p.s.  I tried feeding my horse 1T of garlic a day, as garlic seems to repel 
culicoides, but he hated garlic and refused to eat it, even disguised in feed 
and applesauce.  Right now I am trying attaching small pouches of garlic around 
his neck and under his belly, which seems to help, but he keeps taking them off 
in the trees, so this still needs work, but is promising.

Joe comes home

[KateSeidel]

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Joe arrived at our boarding barn today, safe and reasonably sound.  He  has a 
bad hoof trim and is resting flat on his soles, so they seem a bit sore  when 
he walked on gravel.  I'll have the farrier out next week to see if we  need 
to put shoes on until we can grow them out a bit.
 
My hat goes off to all of you manage to trim those manes so  beautifully.  
His was very long, almost ready to flop, so I trimmed it  down.  At least an 
hour, my arm is aching, but it looks much better (albeit  a bit raggedy).  He 
spent today being hand walked through the pasture, and  tonight in a stall with 
the top door open for his pasture buddies to  visit.  And we will try an 
introduction in the pasture tomorrow  afternoon.  It is a reasonably mellow 
group of 
geldings, but I should  probably take a sedative.
 
Although the gray dun seems to show dirt more than the regular duns, did I  
mention he is completely and totally the most adorable horse I have ever  
encountered?? 
 
Kate 
(who wanted to sleep at the barn but was forced to go home and is now  
convinced that Joe will colic while she's gone)

Grey Fjord Gelding For Sale

[Alan Bate]

This message is from: "Alan Bate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Rare, grey gelding. 4 years old. Maple Tove, Maple Klaus line.Currently
13.3hh. Fantastic nature. Bombproof hack in  traffic, not at all spooky.
Broken at 3 using Silversands Natural Horsemanship techniques, hacked and
then turned away. Brought back into work this year.  I have concentrated on
his groundwork- yields etc. so he could be trained in a variety of
disciplines.

He has been to shows and been placed.  Wonderful markings, zebra striped
legs.  This Fjord has no problem cantering to.  Ridden in a snaffle.  Ideal
for LDR, WH or western. Boxes himself and travels alone or in company.

For sale as I am struggling with time to continue educating and riding a
young horse given arthritis, and I am looking to relocate to France.

£5,500 including 4 weeks professional western training, or the same with a
top BSJA rider. I will discount this if training not required.

Thanks
Jacqui

Re: pregnancy mystery

[Marsha Jo Hannah]

This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> does this happen, where someone accidentally gets the wrong horse?

Undoubtedly!  There have been assorted instances in the Fjord
literature of folks having either the wrong horse, or the wrong papers
(depending on your point of view).  Some involved European imports
whose brands didn't match their papers.  Some involved North American
breeders for whom DNA typing pointed out some "oops"s in their
record-keeping.  Fjords do tend to look a lot alike, and the fact that
the mares will form "nursery co-ops" can make it hard to decide which
foal belongs to which mare.  For this situation, DNA typing is the way
to go.

When I bought Sleepy (his barn name), I "broke up a set"---two
geldings, Trond and Trondleif, who were 3/4 brothers (same sire; mares
were mother/daughter), born 2 months apart, and had moved together
thru 4 homes!  I was given NFA papers for Trond.  Somewhat later, I
went to double-register him with NFHR.  As part of the paperwork, I
sketched Sleepy's whorls (required by NFHR then), and checked his lip
tattoo (required by NFA at that time).  It was hard to read (green
dots in a grey-flecked lip), but after he'd had a bran mash, it stood
out fairly well.  Hmmm, sure didn't look like the tattoo on Trond's
papers; looked more like the one that the NFA studbook said should be
on Trondleif!  This got a little complicated, as by then, the other
gelding had been sold to someone else, who had cross-registered him
with NFHR under the wrong name.  However, when I brought it up, the
seller persisted, and got both registries to straighten things out.
No biggie on a couple of using geldings (other than to have the
proof-of-ownership papers straight), but on a broodmare, you'd really
like to get the pedigree right.

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon

Blue Earth photo album

[coyote]

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I took about 250 photographs of the 20th Anniversary Celebration at the 
Midwest Fjord Horse Show this past week. The ones of the wedding 
procession turned out wonderfully, and I'd like to share some of them 
with you. I have put the best photos in an album on the MWFHC website at 
http://mwfhc.org/


In most cases, each "thumbnail" shown on the album web page is only a 
small portion of its larger image. The larger images on the website are 
compressed to about 40 kb so they should not take too long to download 
even if you have a slow internet connection.



Please note: I am retaining the full copyright for these images. This 
means that I expect people to ask me for permission first before using 
any image for any purpose other than non-commercial, purely personal use.


That said, I want to also add that if a photo is of you, a family 
member, your horse(s), or your equipment, you are always welcome to use 
my photo(s). If you'd like to use your photo for a commercial purpose, 
such as on your website or in a brochure, all I ask is that you give me 
written credit near the image.


I can provide large format, high resolution files that will work much 
better for printing, computer "wallpaper", etc. than the low resolution 
images on the MWFHC website. Just ask!



I realize the previous paragraphs probably sound a little snooty, and I 
do apologize for that.


I have had trouble in the past, however, with people "borrowing" my 
works off the internet without ever asking me for permission. The 
discourtesy bothers me enough that I now hesitate to put my work on the 
internet unless I also say something about the issue. I hope y'all will 
understand!


Thanks!
DeeAnna

mare for sale

[karen ribley]

This message is from: "karen ribley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,
My husband's diagnosis of stage 4 kidney cancer sadly forces sale of my just 
3 year old Fjord mare.  She is green broke to ride, has a lovely, willing 
disposition, good ground manners, and a nice pedigree which includes Grabb. 
Her NFHR # is DRFP2308M, Shome Vilhelmina.

Asking $2300 firm, St. Louis, Mo.
Thanks Karen

Re: My first time at Blue Earth

[jgayle]

This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Congratulations Tanya from another MSW.  I know the nerve it takes to enter 
these shows.  It really helps to have a sane fjord under you rather than 
some of the thoroughbreds and warmbloods I have owned.  Keep up the good 
work.  Jean G







Author
'The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949
Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press
7403 Blaine Rd
Aberdeen, WA 98520 

Re: Vinegar and Flies

[jgayle]

This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sarah what is the name of your mosquito magnet and how many acres does it 
cover?   Jean G







Author
'The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949
Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press
7403 Blaine Rd
Aberdeen, WA 98520 

Re: Pregnancy Mystery

[Olivia Farm, Inc.]

This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello,
 
It sounds to me like your suspicions are correct and you've got the wrong 
horse.  I know of a case of this happening with two Hanoverian stud colts.  
Unfortunately the horse that the breeder had intended on keeping and raising up 
as a stallion prospect was a gelding by the time it came back.
 
 
 
Cheers!
Dan Watanabe
Olivia Farm, Inc.
www.oliviafarm.com

Re: pregnancy mystery

[Epona1971]

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In a message dated 7/29/2005 2:39:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Being that the mare looked to be 7 instead of 15, I would think that it is 
most likely that you've got the wrong mare.
*** Thanks Amy. I suppose the birth date of the foal will give us a better 
idea of what's going on. Millard contacted the previous owner who was 
understandably offended and said that we were probably just overfeeding the 
mare and she 
is obese. We're not -- she's on a dry lot and eats a measured amount of grass 
hay -- and with Fjords I know all about the appearance of obesity ;-). 

Millard is happy with whatever horse he has, because she's a nice mare and 
good to ride, but the registration of the foal might be a problem. If she does 
give birth to a healthy foal within the month, we'll have to do some more 
sleuthing -- hopefully she has a microchip or the registry does DNA testing...


/ )_~
/L/L
Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
www.Brigid.Clickryder.com
www.MillwoodRanch.com 

Re: pregnancy mystery

[FjordAmy]

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In a message dated 7/29/2005 1:35:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So my questions are 1) does this happen, where someone accidentally gets the 
wrong horse? and 2) could a mare appear hugely pregnant with udder swollen at 

Brigid:

To question 1) Yes, this has happened on occasion - I have seen one case in 
QHs a few years back. Solid bay mares with stars, but the star on the horse did 
not match the one on the papers... Good argument FOR DNA testing.

2) I don't know about 6 months specifically, but my mare Taffy bagged up at 
just over 9 months pregnant and within a week or so lost a set of twins. 

Being that the mare looked to be 7 instead of 15, I would think that it is 
most likely that you've got the wrong mare.

Amy


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
260 May Creek Rd
Days Creek, OR 97429
541-825-3303
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Testing and next question

[Vanessa N Weber]

This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Again,

Well my 'testing' email came through but I got sort of a strange note from
Major Domo, which I didn't understand. Let's see if this one goes through
with less fanfare.

First, my two year old, Zipper has been losing weight and aside from upping
her food and worming her with paste (she's on a daily wormer right now) is
there anything I should know (about growth rates for instance), or what to
look for?

My Fjord story is that my elderly aunt, Virginia Cowles of Los Trigos Ranch,
in New Mexico decided to downsize her herd quickly, due to illness, and gave
me four Fjords a couple of months ago. I just had to get them shipped here.
They are Rhoda (10), Ivy (9), Dixie (3), Zipper (2). I'm one of the few (if
not only) blood relatives with an extensive animal background. I've had
horses before and managed to breed some Lipizzans and Lipizzan crosses (5
all together) but I was boarding them and having them trained at an
expensive facility and the payments were too high. I finally stopped, sold
or placed them due to age, and have one left - a Lip/TB cross I bred, (Salem
 5) in training in Florida with a friend. I have a general background in
horses but have depended on others to care for them much of the time. I've
bred and shown dogs for 20 + years (mainly Cavalier King Charles Spaniels
and English Toy Spaniels). I've had lots of other animals over the years as
well.

I have no barn to speak of. I'm trying to figure out how to build one on my
property. I have the land - just not the structure. So I'm scrambling to
figure out how to do that.

I participated in a really great riding program in high school so some
things have come back to me throughout all of this. For example the term
laminitis/founder suddenly popped into my head before the horses got here,
which was great as we have too much rich grass here to put them out to
pasture. But I'm pretty rusty about a lot of horse care details and have
been reading like mad. For example, someone helped put together a first aid
kit for me, but I don't know how and when to use everything in it...
although I certainly know about some things

In the meantime, I have three of the Fjords at an inexpensive barn where the
caretaker does a pretty good job of keeping an eye on them, feeding them etc
 I've managed to go trail riding with Rhoda several times and she's lots of
fun.

I sent Ivy to the eventing stable where I take lessons on a 'free lease'. I
see her several times a week and she seems to be getting some really good
care and training. I've ridden her there once, but she's always in my class
with a solid rider and I know what's going on. Because of age (50) and
fitness level (poor but improving), I don't have the strength on horses that
I used to, although I'm probably one of the most experienced riders in this
class of older adults - so this makes sense to me...

Between the time I had all the Lips and got the Fjords, I adopted 2 kids
from Kazakhstan (near Russia/China). My kids ( TJ, currently age 5 1/2 and
Polly, 7 1/2). Polly and T.J. are riding at the same stable with me and
Polly is about to start riding Ivy in lessons.

I'm also an MSW working with adopted kids and their families. Anyway, that
is my story, in brief. 

I love your list. I've been lurking for a couple of months and have learned
a lot. I have lots of questions which I hope to ask at some point. Right now
I have to pick up a dog at the vet and find some worming paste and get to
the barn with it.

I would love to meet some of you at the upcoming New England show - but I'm
chairing a dog show in Sturbridge (Sturbridge Host Hotel - if anyone is
staying there - come find me) that weekend and may not be able to get away
for more than an hour or so - if that. Wouldn't you know?..So close and yet
so far!

I hope someone can help me with my question, above, regarding Zipper.

Gotta run!

Vanessa N Weber
Kenjockety
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Westbrook, CT

pregnancy mystery

[Epona1971]

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Hi Fjord Friends-[

I have a question for those of you experienced with breeding. We have a bit 
of a mystery here on the ranch. The ranch owner, Millard, purchased a Missouri 
Fox Trotter mare in February; he was told that she was bred in January and 
would be due in December. I thought Millard was mistaken because I've never 
heard 
of a horse being bred in winter, and because she had possibly 
pregnancy-induced rings on the upper half of her hooves, which doesn't make 
sense if she'd 
only been pregnant one month. This month, the mare, Jubilee, started to look 
like she was going to give birth any minute: protruding belly, udder swollen 
and 
hanging down like a cow, extremely agitated and always hungry. I called the 
vet to confirm my suspicions and he determined that she would give birth within 
a month. He estimated her age at 7 years. I told Millard and he was baffled, 
checked his paperwork and sure enough, the mare described as Jubilee was bred 
and confirmed in foal January 8, 2005. The paper also says she's 15 years old. 
I'm beginning to wonder if we have the wrong horse! Apparently she came from a 
big herd of 20+ broodmares, and if many of them were bay... 

So my questions are 1) does this happen, where someone accidentally gets the 
wrong horse? and 2) could a mare appear hugely pregnant with udder swollen at 
6 months?


/ )_~
/L/L
Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
www.Brigid.Clickryder.com
www.MillwoodRanch.com 

Re: Vinegar & Flies

[coyote]

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Joyce wrote:
...this is the recipe that you can cross off the list. I tried it many
years ago and it didn't work for me
Make your own fly trap:
3 cups Water
1/4 cup Sugar
1/4 cup Vinegar
Mix ingredients. Place in a jar or can with holes in the lid. Place were
needed.

DeeAnna here:
This type of solution does work, but only if the flies are interested in
decaying or fermenting stuff to lay eggs or eat. When it is very dry
around here, I think the flies go after the water in the horse's eyes,
mouths, and sweaty areas, not food so much.

I've found this type of bait also works better if used as a spot
treatment. It needs to be in a warm, sunny place out of the wind.

As flies build up in the liquid and decay, that adds to the
"attractiveness" (ugh!!) of the bait. I suspect any kind of solution
that will ferment and smell yummy to flies will work.

I use about 1/2 c of "hummingbird nectar" as my attractant with no
vinegar. This nectar is 1 c sugar + enough water to make 1 quart of
solution.

This type of trap works better if you have a "one way" cap on the jar
that is designed to let the flies in but won't let them out. Otherwise,
they visit, do their business so to speak, then leave, rather than stay
trapped to die.

There's a yellow and black plastic one-way cap on the U.S. market that
slips into a plastic milk jug opening. I found it in my local "farm and
home" store. It comes with its own "attractant" goop that you add to
water, but the sugar solution works about as well in my experience, so I
don't buy more "goop" when it's gone.

DeeAnna

PS: For the record, I am another Fjord List member who is always "grey
listed" when I post a message. It is incredibly annoying! Steve, is
there anything that can be done to "white list" my email address?

Re: Vinegar and Flies

[Sarah and Mike Stacy]

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Hi everyone,

Just a quick note on flies - I got a Mosquito Magnet early this summer 
and I love it!  I also put out fly predators and that seemed to help 
also.  There are almost no mosquitos or flies at my place.  Of course, 
it's a different story as soon as I ride off the property.  I've been 
using RepelX fly spray, but it only seems to work for a short time.  I 
think I'll give garlic a try.


Sarah
in Soldotna, Alaska


Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:49:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vinegar and Flies

This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Greetings,

Pondering the upcoming fly season this spring I decided to do some research on 
feed through fly control systems. I soon began to notice that the active 
ingredient in many is granulated garlic.  As such we began to feed granulated 
garlic this spring at a rate of 2T per day (1T morning and night) the first 
week mixed with the horses grain.  We decreased this to 1T only in the morning 
and have been having good results ever since.  You might find that it is easier 
to start with 1T, work up to 2T and then cut back to 1T as some horses are more 
sensitive to this change in flavor.

RE: sprirulina, was Vinegar & Flies(& Garlic)

[Gail Russell]

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Maybe we should swap horses for the summer.  Gunthar to Nevada, Idelle to
Sonoma?  I guarantee that Gunthar would be a big hit.

Gail

Re: evaluation scoring

[jgayle]

This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My Holsteiner mare went through evaluation with evaluators from Germany.  We 
tied for third and so entered the main mare book for breeders. This was done 
on Fox island  out of Tacoma, WA back in the seventies.  Many warmbloods 
were being evaluated and still are.   Jean






]
Author
'The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949
Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press
7403 Blaine Rd
Aberdeen, WA 98520 

Re: fjords - their feeding and friends

[jgayle]

This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Crystal, I think some horses might take exception to the Fjordies color and 
smell.  They do seem to smell differently than other horses.  My big 
Trakehner, Charlie, took quite awhile getting used to my first Fjord, Howdy. 
After losing Howdy, I bought another boy, Gunnar and as long as the mare was 
not in with them, they did fine together. Now the mare has a new home and 
Gunnar and Charlie are always wanting to be together.  One problem is their 
different feeding needs. Anyway, just my take on it.  Jean






Author
'The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949
Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press
7403 Blaine Rd
Aberdeen, WA 98520 

Re: fjords - their feeding and friends

[jgayle]

This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Author
'The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949
Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press
7403 Blaine Rd
Aberdeen, WA 98520

Re: neem/fly spray

[CrystalZak]

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In a message dated 7/29/05 7:33:54 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> I also have heard that NEEM oil is good to repel gnats.  I have some, will
> mix it with some vegetable oil and apply it...lots of gnats here lately.
>

i use NEEM on many things, it is great stuff. it is antifungal, and seems to
work well on itchy things, too. mixed with tea tree oil i use it for wound
care on the horses, and i add that combination to some rubbing alcohol to use
on
my chicken's legs when they have mitesmulti purpose stuff.

laurie, and oz, who is glad to be back sleeping outside all day, instead of
in a stall, sleeping all day

Re: blue earth

[CrystalZak]

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In a message dated 7/24/05 6:54:45 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hello All,
> Unfortunately, because we are taking my daughter on so many trips to
> look at colleges, I cannot make it to Blue Earth.  I was trying to
> combine it with a trip to MacAluster college in St Paul, but it just
> didn't work out.  When you see Laurie doing great on OZ, it is
> because she got a good nights sleep in the King Suite I passed on to
> her.  Well it probably has more to do with the years worth of work
> she has put in with him - I'm rooting for them!
>
genie, i really wish i could take credit for years of work on him LOL..he
came with years of work on him thanks to paula, who owned him before me. he
tolerates me learning what he knows, and accepting my sometimes muddled cues.
we are learning together.

as for the suite, it was awesome!!! the one night i came home so shaky and
sore and really stressed, i headed straight for the jacuzzi. as for the king
bed, well...i have a very non-horsey friend who has come with me both
years i
have been there (everyone say hi to carol), who does simply everything
(voluntarily) that it would be hard to do if i were there alonecleaning
stalls,
loading and unloading the truck, keeping track of all my stuff..SHE
deservedly got the king size bed. it was closer to the air conditioning, and
she's a
winter mindset woman. i slept just fine on the foldout.

i must qualify that, there is one thing she refused to do. one afternoon a
very sweaty, bearded red-headed man asked if we had clippers, which i did. i
thought he needed to trim something on his horse. nope, he wanted to shave so
he
could go apply for some work at the fair. sheesh, he took off his shirt and
proceeded to give himself a shave right there with my wahl clippers. he asked
if
we could help, and carol, who is a master dog groomer, refused.
LOLOL...guess i'll have to sterlize the clippers.

more on blue earth later

laurie, and oz the famous

Oak Point's

[Laura Kranzusch]

This message is from: "Laura Kranzusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello all,

 

Just wondering if any of you have ever heard of or know the whereabouts
of the following horses:

Oak Point's Alma

Oak Point's Dag (barn name Daggie)

They were at a local stable a couple of years ago and I heard that Alma
was sold at the Waverly auction in Iowa.  If you have any information on
these horses, please e-mail me privately.

 

-Laura

 

 

My first time at Blue Earth

[Tanya Welsch]

This message is from: "Tanya Welsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thought I'd share about my experience entering my FIRST horse show with MVF
Viola at Blue Earth!  Of course, her being a pro, she showed me the ropes
and was so good.  I entered her in the Broodmare category.  There were seven
in the class and I was sure glad I hadn't entered the 4+ mare category
because there were 22!!  Anyway, one didn't show, so we were a group of six.
When I approached the judge for inspection, he asked how old she was and I
replied "19".  He said, "old enough to vote" and I said "yes, but not old
enough to drink" to which he replied, "well, she looks like she's had a few
drinks!"  I had to keep from laughing and said, "yes, 10."  When they
announced 6th place and didn't call my number, I thought, "well good, we
didn't get last."  Then they called 5th and it wasn't my number and I
started to get nervous.  They called 4th and it wasn't me either..oh boy.
Then, I'm proud to report we won third place!!  A beautiful grey 17-year old
mare won first as I knew she would..she was really nice, and an 11-year old
won second..but she was sure a handful for her owner!  Not Vi, she was calm,
cool, gave me a great trot, stood so quietly..I couldn't have asked for a
more fun and nice experience.  

 

I want to thank everyone involved with the show in making it such a great
experience for a "first-timer"..I'm looking forward to next year!

 

Tanya K. Welsch, MSW

MN LINC Administrator

952-472-2422

www.mnlinc.org

Show Results

[Catherine lassesen]

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Thanks for posting the show results to the list. It was fun to read about
the show. 

Congratulations to all that attended. 

Catherine Lassesen
Hestehaven - The Horse Garden\
Southern Oregon

Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #167

[Quilter855]

This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 7/29/2005 5:33:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The  fjord gelding we have is very sensitive and he could be destroyed  
emotionally from an incident like that. Before anyone enters any fair  
... I would encourage them to look into the backgrounds of any and all  
volunteers. Just a quick question over the phone is not  sufficient.

We can never be too cautious when it comes to our  horses.




We had an incident a few years ago where people broke into the fair grounds  
at  night and released the horses from their stalls and the barns. Luckily,  
they were all rounded up and none were injured, but now they inisist that 
owners  sleep there.

testing

[jerrell friz]

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I  too have not been able to post.
Jerry Friz, 
Anderson, Ca.


jerrell friz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
EarthLink Revolves Around You.

Re: Blue Earth Results

[Reena Giola]

This message is from: "Reena Giola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thank you Pat for taking the time to type this up and send it to the list.

Reena

  20th Annual Upper Midwest Norwegian Fjord Horse Show Results

Garlic & Anemia

[Joe Glick]

This message is from: "Joe Glick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Since I have been feeding garlic to my horses the past two summers, the
article in the Horse Journal got me wondering. So I did a massive web search
to see what I else I can learn. All I really learned off of the web is that a
lot of people are now scared to use garlic. Then I contacted Springtime (my
garlic supplier) and asked what their thoughts where on the article. They
forwarded a letter to me that was sent to the Horse Journal. It reminded me
once again, there are two sides to every story.

Joe Glick
Glick Family Farm
Gordonville, PA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Letter from Springtime to Horse Journal:

June 25, 2005


Horse Journal

6538 Van Buren Road

Warners, NY 13164



Dear Editor,



The results of the freeze-dried garlic study that you referenced in your July
2005 publication are important and significant but could lead the reader to
erroneous conclusions. The doses given in the study were for freeze-dried
garlic and must be extrapolated to derive raw garlic doses and cannot be
applied at all to the air-dried garlic commonly fed to horses as an insect
repellent.



Almost three units of raw garlic cloves are required to produce one unit of
freeze-dried garlic due to lost moisture. Therefore, a 4.4 oz portion of
freeze-dried garlic fed twice daily would equal about 1 lb, 10 oz of raw
garlic cloves. According to the study, this amount was fed daily over 30
consecutive days to achieve an anemic condition. That equates to almost 50 lbs
of fresh garlic fed within a month period.  In real life, no responsible
horseman would try to feed this much garlic and no horse would eat it!



Even more significant than dosing issues, however, is the distinction between
raw and/or freeze-dried garlic and air-dried garlic.  Raw garlic contains two
chemicals (stored in separate chambers in the clove) which when combined in
the presence of water form a highly active but extremely unstable oxidizing
substance called allicin. Allicin, as noted in the study, is the substance
that causes oxidation of red blood cells when fed in excessive amounts. In the
freeze-drying process, also explained in the study, almost all water is
removed before the garlic cloves are grated into powder. The preserved
freeze-dried product will release allicin only after moisture is added back in
during ingestion. In the air-drying process, garlic cloves are crushed in
their raw form and then dried. The allicin is released when the cloves are
crushed and within minutes metabolizes into other compounds. Air-dried garlic
is therefore allicin free and cannot cause the red blood cell damage described
in this study.



Allicin and/or its metabolites create the characteristic garlic odor that we
are all familiar with. Over millions of years, insects have evolved
attractions to certain food scents and aversions to odors that signal possible
harm. Insects will avoid the garlic odor even when no more allicin is present.
That is why garlic oil preparations are effectively used on crops to repel
pests and also why horses that eat air-dried garlic will, over a period of
weeks, develop an effective protection against many varieties of biting
insects.



I believe that there is a great interest among your readers in practical,
natural food products for their horses and I hope that your publication will
provide them with more information on air-dried garlic.



Sincerely,



Dennis Hampt

President

Fjord looking for new home

[HapDayBMF]

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Hi - I'm a 13.2 hand, brown dun tank, who turned 11 yrs this month.  I  am 
trained to ride, though I look like I should be plowing someone's  fields.  I 
have been in a few shows - and even won some ribbons, but that  was awhile ago. 
 
I am healthy and up to date on everything - but I'm tired  of being a pasture 
ornament - well maybe my mom is more tired of it then  me.  I use to trail 
ride almost everydayand was real good at it.   I was the horse the visitors 
always got to ride, and the beginners had walk  trot lessons on in the ring.  
My owner has not used me in some yearsand  I have gotten very rusty, and 
kind of spooky about things now.  She doesn't  like seeing me get this way, and 
would REALLY like to find me a new home where  I'll be used more and some 
place I'll like too.  I'm still pretty good in a  ring, but out in the big 
world 
I'm a Nervous Nelly.  I don't think she's  asking too much for me ($2,000)  so 
if you have the time, and experience to  work with me, I'm a GREAT friend!
Let my mom know if you'd like some pictures.  Here's her email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 
Hope we get to meet soon,
H.D. Sebastian
Central Maine

RE: Blue Earth Results

[The Mercers]

This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks for the results, Pat!  There were some great classes offered.
What is Australian Pursuit?  I've never heard of that before.

Taffy Mercer
Kennewick, WA

RE: sprirulina, was Vinegar & Flies(& Garlic)

[Karen McCarthy]

This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks for the thought Gail! 

 I get the Cashel catalog, and the latest issue had the most ridiculous
looking fly sheet/outfit I have ever seen! They actually made a set of
step-in horse 'pajamas', made out of very fine soft mesh. There is also a
blanket made in Europe called a Boett blanket. These items cost alot of
moola, Believe me, i might think it was worth it if there were not such
things as gates, posts and doorways, as Idelle really "gets into" the
itch groove, and would make short work in demolishing these type of
coverings...sheesh! We are hoping to wean her down on the Progesterone;
she started out at 45 pills, now she is down to 35. Just don't like to
keep her on this stuff if I can help it. We had such a long wet, spring
that I was lulled into a false sense that Idelle's itch problem was
perhaps a thing of the past, but oh no... summer is here, and so is the
major itching!

I was trying to find out what the specific spirulina dosage is; I have
found a few sources, but need to figure out how much to give so I can
calculate out an order.

Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, 
Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees

Original Message Follows
From: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
To: 
Subject: RE: sprirulina, was Vinegar & Flies(& Garlic)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:29:11 -0700

This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hmm..Karen. The local tack shop has a fancy complete cover up fly
sheet
on their plastic horse outside the shop. I strongly suspect it is not
going
to sell this summer, and that I might be able to get a deal on it. The
fly
sheet material looks softer and more comfortable than the usual mesh.

If you send me measurements, I could at least check to see if it is the
right size. It has the neck cover and tail cover, if remember correctly.
Not positive about the belly cover.

Gail

Re: sprirulina, was Vinegar & Flies(& Garlic)

[Karen McCarthy]

This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jean,

yes we do the ground flax seed routine. 1/2 c. per day. I will look into
the neem oil...

Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, 
Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees

Original Message Follows
From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Re: sprirulina, was Vinegar & Flies(& Garlic)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:54:08 -0800

This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Have you tried ground flax seed?
I also have heard that NEEM oil is good to repel gnats.

Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #166

[Quilter855]

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In a message dated 7/27/2005 10:46:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This  message is from: snafflesnshelties <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I had been  adding about one  cup of apple cider vinegar to the horses 
feed.(not  the white vinegar... the apple cider vinegar)  Also adding the 
cheap  garlic powder from walmart. . Both are supposed to repel flies. 
but in my  case it is not 100%




I have heard that garlic can make the horses anemic, so watch out. I don't  
know if this is true ro not, but thought I would pass it along.
Patty in hot Yakima, WA