Re: grazing muzzle

2008-06-17 Thread Linda Lottie User
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I use the Best Friends muzzle.


On 6/16/08 8:49 PM, debora seely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Linda,
 nbsp;nbsp; What kind of muzzle do you have?
 nbsp;
 Deb Seely
 
 --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Linda Lottie lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:
 
 From: Linda Lottie lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
 Subject: RE: grazing muzzle
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:18 PM
 
 This message is from: Linda Lottie lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
 
 Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most part
 my
 guys do well.
 
 The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot.
 
 I have about an 1 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse
 muzzle.
 
 The one who has the most wear had a boney face.  Might be why??
 
 Linda
 
 
 To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects
 andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to
 receive.
 
 
 gt; Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400
 gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 gt; Subject: grazing muzzle
 gt; To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 gt; 
 gt; This message is from: Ellen Davidson
 gt; 
 gt; I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face
 badly.I
 gt; bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well
 made
 gt; and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed
 fleece
 gt; around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this
 problem?
 gt; Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the
 fjords
 gt; that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen
 gt; 
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Re: Fjords at Elk Creek!

2008-06-17 Thread Ed Sullivan
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Hi Sue and everyone,

How did I miss you guys?!!!  I was on the lookout for you all weekend, though
the heat kept us confined to our camp more than usual, especially with Magz
studying for final exams.  Lex, Holy Helga, and Riena were all superstars, of
course.  Beth did Training, Carole did Prelim.  We had a great time at Elk
Creek, I can't say enough about this wonderful show -- sign up next year,
everybody!  See you next time -- Ann S.

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Subject: Fjords at Elk Creek!

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I don't have any of the placings, but there were 5 Fjords at Elk Creek CDE!
Beth Gerst and her gelding, Maggie Sullivan and Reina, Carole Hunter and Holy
Helga and Marsha Korose with Ulend and Solvar!  It was really hot and muggy
this past weekend and the course is always interesting and challenging.
Sorry
I didn't check the postings before we headed for home.  I think that all were
in training, except Maggie who is Intermediate!  Sue Freivald

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Re: grazing muzzle

2008-06-17 Thread jen frame
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My Fjord mare also got a rub spot from the grazing muzzle. So I
brought some real sheep skin with the fleece on it to my local saddle
maker and had him sew it around the edge.  It solved the problem. But
you have to check the fleece every day and pull out any grass spurs or
anything else that can easily get stuck in the fleece and irritate the
horse.
Jen

On 6/17/08, Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This message is from: Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I use the Best Friends muzzle.



  On 6/16/08 8:49 PM, debora seely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   This message is from: debora seely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Linda,
  What kind of muzzle do you have?
  
   Deb Seely
  
   --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Linda Lottie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   From: Linda Lottie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: grazing muzzle
   To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
   Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:18 PM
  
   This message is from: Linda Lottie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most 
 part
   my
   guys do well.
  
   The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot.
  
   I have about an 1 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse
   muzzle.
  
   The one who has the most wear had a boney face.  Might be why??
  
   Linda
  
  
   To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects
   andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to
   receive.
  
   
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: grazing muzzle
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
   
This message is from: Ellen Davidson
   
I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face
   badly.I
bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well
   made
and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed
   fleece
around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this
   problem?
Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the
   fjords
that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen
   
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Re: To shoe or not to shoe...

2008-06-17 Thread KateSeidel
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We don't live in an extreme terrain, but my barn owner thought it was  easier 
to put down rocks on all of the roads surrounding the barn and for access  to 
our trails.  So while my ponies are in a comfy 2 acre dry lot most of  the 
time, we have to cross rocks to get anywhere else.  I figure I am  asking them 
to work less than 10% of their time, and the inconvenience of my  putting on 
hoof boots is one I'm willing to put up with.  
 
We are currently in the process of changing our hoof boots.  Della can  wear 
BOA's which are not really difficult to put on.  Joe wears Old Macs  because 
they are the only ones with a shape round enough to accommodate his  hoof.  We 
are trying out some Renegades for Della (hopefully they get here  today), 
which are supposed to be easier to use, and cause less of an issue with  
rubbing 
since they sit below the hairline.  The Old Macs are really a pain  to use, but 
we're waiting for Renegade to make a model big enough for Joe (he is  such a 
stud).
 
Kate
with Joe and Della
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I have a  bit of a dilemma. I am really having to consider whether or not I 
want to shoe  my gelding.


 



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Re: To shoe or not to shoe...

2008-06-17 Thread Lola Lahr
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Hi Kelly-
A friend of mine and I both have barefoot fjords, and use boots.  They are
great.  My advice would be to Google Pete Ramey's website and read his
articles.  He is a farrier by trade, and a famous expert in hoofs and hoof
care, who has a string of barefoot horses that he uses for tourists to ride
on the mountain trails (very very rocky!) at his home in Georgia  He got
most of them free because they had major foot problems.
Also check Easy Care's website and read the articles about natural hoof
care. I use the Easy Boot Epics, usually just on the fronts, but sometimes
on all four feet when riding in rough, muddy and/or rocky terrain.  I have
seen shod horses lose their shoes, slip and slide on the rocks, getting cut
and scraped, etc., and my horse, in her boots, just walks right on through.
If it is really rough, you can get foam pads to put inside the boots for
more cushioning.  Once you put the boots on a couple of times it gets to be
really quick and easy.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Kelly Trirogoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Hello list;

 I have a bit of a dilemma. I am really having to consider whether or not I
 want to shoe my gelding. The ground where I live is unreasonably rocky and
 he
 still seems to be tender tootsied.  He can tolerate walking on the rocky
 ground, but he seeks out softer spots and he is reluctant to do much more
 then
 a walk/ short strided trot. I live up a mountain with a dry, hottish, rocky
 terrain. The boys spend most of their time in a dry lot that is mostly
 sand
 (with some trees for shelter)  Skovy does ok on our outings, but I just
 wonder
 whether he would go better with front shoes.  Will his foot become tough
 enough over time? A few of my neighbors that have horses have warned me
 about
 him getting a stone bruise. How many of you here do extreme trail riding
 with
 and without shoes? I hesitate to put them on him as  I worry once they are
 on,
 they can't come off. I trail ride several times a week for an hour and a
 half
 to two hours at a time. If some of the people that use their fjords for
 combined driving or eventing could let me know how their fjords do with
 being
 shoed vs. unshoed

 Are the shoes going to make him more slippery on some of the rocky
 terrain??

 What about horse boots. I know some of you use them, and are they really
 convenient to put on?  I guess they depend on the shape of the horses foot
 too. I have found that the general shape/area of Skovy's foot has changed
 as I
 have had to change farriers several times.

 Just wondering what some of you do, as I know that some of you must live in
 more extreme areas then this.
 Just hanging out at the crossroads until I make up my mind...
 Feel free to p.m. me and let me know your opinions

 CheersKelly
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saddle

2008-06-17 Thread Debby Stai
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Wasn't someone looking for a Wintec Isabel for one of their fjords.  We'd
ridden on our daughters treeless saddle this past weekend and really really
liked it.  We won't be showing, we just ride at home for fun, but this
treeless we can ride on the trails too.  I'd be interested in selling the
Isabel if someone would like pictures...Its a 17inch and in great shape...If
anyone else knows someone looking please forward my email.  I have
pictures/video of Miss Ynde in the treeless, I'm hoping to get downloaded to
youtube so we can share with the fjord people and Yndes papa...We were so
proud of her this weekend. I liked the treeless to but I think my Prestige
fits Langster better.
thanks all.
Debby in Tx

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Re: grazing muzzle

2008-06-17 Thread CrystalZak
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i, too, use a best friends muzzle on oz, and he knows that when i get it out, 
he gets to eat some grass. he will actually lower his head and stick his nose 
in the bucket. then he trots to the back of his turnout to the gate the i 
open to let him into the grassy area. so far we haven't had a rubbing problem, 
though the last time he used it regularly, he did get some black spots where it 
rubbed, but they were not raw.

he's quite funny to watch trying to get as much as he can through the hole. 
he kind of tosses the basket forward a little and then drags it back to his 
lips. there's a lot of flat grass out there, so at least it doesn't all go into 
his mouth.

he will run all the way to the back of the pasture, which abuts the one with 
charlie and gizmo. i was watching him and the mini playing under the lower 
fence rope. gizmo can laugh now, but i have a mini muzzle for him if he starts 
to 
chub up.

laurie, and the three musketeers


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gazing muzzle

2008-06-17 Thread Ellen Davidson
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Thanks for all the posts.I have a Best Friend grazing muzzle size large
horse.My horses have never obected to me putting it on or wearing it in the
pasture.Maybe I'll try the real sheepskin instead of the fleece that I sewed
on.Maybe a teadmill for all of us!  Ellen

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Boots

2008-06-17 Thread Karen Larry Klein
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For those looking for different types of boots there is a web site called
www.naturalhorsetrim.com/boot_swap.htm  or search under hoof boot swap. They
have many different boots and used boots to buy or swap. They list all the
different kinds and the web sites to get sizes and descriptions of the boots
and how to fit them. On the Boa and easy boots page they also have Old Mac's.
There are about 4 different styles of easy boots now. Some of the boots can be
bought for a reasonable price on the boot swap and sale.
We use Boa's on 2 of  our horses, and easy boots on the one. We did have a
problem with easy boots staying on the one horse, because of a twisting he
does as he walks, they would twist off. I think the new epics would stay on
better, but until he wears out the Boa's We won't buy any more boots. They
wear forever, we have had the one pair for 4 years, and there is very little
wear on them. I don't use them all the time, but that is what I really like
about the boots, I only have to use them as I need them.
The one thing I don't think I would like about the Old Mac's is the Velcro,
once it gets just so dirty it looses its Velcro power. I think you would wear
out the Velcro before you ever wore the boots out.
Just some thoughts and ideas.

Karen

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Re: Boots

2008-06-17 Thread Lola Lahr
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A small metal wire brush (looks sort of like a toothbrush with shiny
bristles) and hose will clean up your Velcro.  Thanks for the tip on the
boot swap site!!
I also have a few pairs of BOAS and Old Macs - some NEVER USED-  lying
around in my tack room if someone wants to take them off my hands. I use
Epics on everybody  now. ;-)

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Karen  Larry Klein 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This message is from: Karen  Larry Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 For those looking for different types of boots there is a web site called
 www.naturalhorsetrim.com/boot_swap.htm  or search under hoof boot swap.
 They
 have many different boots and used boots to buy or swap. They list all the
 different kinds and the web sites to get sizes and descriptions of the
 boots
 and how to fit them. On the Boa and easy boots page they also have Old
 Mac's.
 There are about 4 different styles of easy boots now. Some of the boots can
 be
 bought for a reasonable price on the boot swap and sale.
 We use Boa's on 2 of  our horses, and easy boots on the one. We did have a
 problem with easy boots staying on the one horse, because of a twisting he
 does as he walks, they would twist off. I think the new epics would stay on
 better, but until he wears out the Boa's We won't buy any more boots. They
 wear forever, we have had the one pair for 4 years, and there is very
 little
 wear on them. I don't use them all the time, but that is what I really like
 about the boots, I only have to use them as I need them.
 The one thing I don't think I would like about the Old Mac's is the Velcro,
 once it gets just so dirty it looses its Velcro power. I think you would
 wear
 out the Velcro before you ever wore the boots out.
 Just some thoughts and ideas.

 Karen

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dressage pad?

2008-06-17 Thread Gina Larson
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Hello,

I am wondering if anyone can recommend a favorite dressage pad.  I recently 
ordered a Roma full quilted pad from Smartpak and it looks ridiculously huge on 
my fjord!  Most don't give measurements and I don't want to make the same 
mistake again!

Thanks,
Gina
Menominee, MI

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Re: dressage pad?

2008-06-17 Thread MorrisShadowMT
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Hello Gina 
 
 
   I have a couple of dressage pads that I really like one is  made by 5 star 
100% wool felt.   It is very nice and fits Fjords well  the other is a Merino 
sheep wool fleece and it contoured to the shape of the  saddle.   I do have 
some of waffle weave types, but after you ride  them in the wool the look that 
they give you if you dare use the other  pad!   You just know that they are 
much more comfy.
 
 
 
Bonnie Morris
 
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Fwd: Fjord

2008-06-17 Thread Mike May

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Hello Fjord Friends!

Our therapeutic riding center, located in upstate NY, is currently 
looking for additional horses to use in their riding lessons for 
individuals with disabilities. I personally am extremely well 
acquainted with the Fjord breed, since I have owned a Fjord of my 
own, MVF Malla, for 18 years. Malla proved all too well the 
versatility and huge heart that are characteristic of our favorite 
breed, since her and I literally have done everything a horse and 
rider/whip could do. She now is a fantastic teacher to my 2 year old 
daughter as she learns about riding and horsemanship (and of course I 
still ride/drive her too!). I also take credit for roping the NFHR's 
Registrar/Executive Director (Mike May) into his role, as he wouldn't 
ever have started it if it weren't for horse crazy me getting him 
introduced to Fjords- he's my dad! ;-)


Anyway, knowing Fjords so well, I know if we could find the perfect 
Fjord, he/she would likely be the perefect combination of size, 
sturdiness and temperment that a great therpeutic riding horse needs. 
I am an Advanced Certified NARHA (North American Riding for the 
Handicapped) instructor, and the Sr. Instructor at our center, and I 
sure would love to get my hands on a furry little Fjord for our 
riders (and I know the riders would just love them)! We also have an 
eye towards the future to incorporate a driving program into our 
center, and a Fjord would likely be able to slide right in there as well.


If any of you know of a good candidate to be a therapeutic riding 
horse, please contact me. We are looking for a horse with some 
miles that has been ridden a fair amount and has seen a lot of 
things, so likely will be 8 years old or more. We are especially 
interested in any horse that you may be interested in donating and 
receiving a tax write-off for, though we will certainly consider a 
possible purchase if we can find just the right match.


Thank you!
Niki Whilden
Sr. Riding Instructor
Heritage Christian Stables
(585) 872-2540

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Re: To shoe or not to shoe...

2008-06-17 Thread shawna smith

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Just want to chime in here, as a shod riding friend of Lola's. The Epic 
boots that Lola and friend Pam use definitely work very well. I will be 
going with boots for my young gelding this summer and most likely with my 
mare as well this winter. She's had shoes on continuously for 3 years and 
her feet are great, but with higher fuel costs, I doubt I'll be riding quite 
as much this next winter and the boots seem like a good choice. Another 
friend I ride with in steep, muddy, rocky terrain uses the old mac G2's and 
loves them. The boots all seem to provide better traction on rocks and slick 
muddy hills than shoes do.  At least in our group, it's always my mare 
leaving the most skid marks on slick hills; not the booted hooves!!

Shawna in OR



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To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Re: To shoe or not to shoe...


This message is from: Lola Lahr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Kelly-
A friend of mine and I both have barefoot fjords, and use boots.  They are
great. I use the Easy Boot Epics, usually just on the fronts, but 
sometimes

on all four feet when riding in rough, muddy and/or rocky terrain.  I have
seen shod horses lose their shoes, slip and slide on the rocks, getting 
cut
and scraped, etc., and my horse, in her boots, just walks right on 
through.


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