RE: Road fabric
This message is from: Teressa tere...@kodiakfishco.com Road fabric is much more durable than garden weed blockers. You could google it and find a supplier - local landscape companies use it to underlay gravel walks and paths - that's where I got mine. Teressa -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Gail Russell Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:03 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: Road fabric This message is from: Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com It is different. I think I got mine from Merafi (???) ...not directly...through a supplier. You will have to find a company that specializes in road building stuff. You want the heavy duty non-woven fabric. Not cheap. I paid $900 for my last roll of it, and it is probably more expensive now. That did cover quite a space. The only place I have had it fail is where the horses pay in front of their feeders. The edges can be a problem if the horses walk across the edge. I dig a trench about a foot deep and then fold a 2 foot piece of the fabric down into the trench, and put soil on it. It creates an anchor. There are landscape pins, but I have been afraid to use them in the vicinity of horses. Karenwould you use landscape pins in a horse paddock? Gail Gail Thanks Teressa and everyone else who has been responding about the paddock. Another person mentioned road fabric or landscape fabric in an e-mail response. I'm familiar with landscape fabric from garden stores (though I cannot imagine it standing up for more than a few minutes without a huge amt of gravel on it). Is road fabric another name for it, or is it a separate product from separate suppliers? I have a feeling it might be an American term; I'll also try contacting road building organizations here. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Stella
This message is from: Mary Ofjord ma...@boreal.org I'm curious as to what this horse's registration number was. Our first Fjord, Sylvi's dam was Stella N-13970. Is this the same mare? Mary O. - Original Message - From: sam Stanley barefootfj...@yahoo.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 9:25 AM Subject: Stella This message is from: sam Stanley barefootfj...@yahoo.com I would like to add to the Stella report ;) __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5862 (20110210) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Roundup'ing
This message is from: Mary Ofjord ma...@boreal.org I've not had a problem with our equines tasting the sprayed plants. I will usually put them into the barn when I spray initally - yes, also by back breaking pump-up sprayer, but I can get it right where it will do the most good. The horses/mule have better places to graze than on the weeds growing around the barn and lean-to areas. The plants I'm spraying are not eaten by the horses anyway. Mary O. jeanne.mil...@pnc.com wrote: I wanted to ask how long do you keep your horses off pasture after spraying Roundup?? It depends Roundup seems to be quite tasty---if given a chance, my equines (a donkey and Fjords) will seek out areas that have recently been sprayed and nibble off the sprayed leaves. Roundup isn't particularly dangerous to equines, but it is expensive (both $ and the body aches that result from applying it with a backpack sprayer). If the plants haven't had adequate time to absorb the spray, the equine nibbling will negate the effects of spraying. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5862 (20110210) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
saddle dilema
This message is from: laurie with livingi...@q.com we had a master saddle fitter come to the barn the other day because two of us have been having troubles fitting our horses. i got a dressage saddle, a nice older albion, XW 19 inch that i thought might fit both of us but wasn't sure. it doesn't fit him. we might or might not be able to adjust it, but i am not that emotionally attached to it. i then told her that i rode in a Balanced Ride Saddle, which really got her attention since she knows how well built they are, and the principles behind them (google john fallis saddles if interested). i have been riding in mine since before i got oz. imagine my shock when we put it on and she immediately said it was too tight on his withers and bridges on his back. i never expected that, and felt guilty that i didn't realize it for all this time. i didn't expect to be trying to find saddle options, but here i am. there is a possibility that it can be used with a contoured wool pad, but not for sure. i contacted the maker (these are all done by hand and custom made. i got one made by my former riding instructor's husband who worked with john fallis on his methods) who said he can't make it bigger, and i would have to buy a custom one if i wanted one. he suggested that most of the ones that can be found for sale used most likely won't fit a fjord. and even used, they aren't cheap. i am crushed right now. my finances this year are really sucky. i don't want to ride him on a saddle that doesn't fit, and i have ridden this one for so long i have no idea what else is out there. any ideas or suggestions? treeless? aussie? i'm not so worried about the dressage, but i am getting into the western dressage movement, and really need to fix this. thanks laurie and oz the yak Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: saddle dilema
This message is from: Debbie LeBreton tippiegi...@hotmail.com Hello to you: My advise to you is get another opinion. I had a similiar experience and found out that one told me it was really wrong and the other saddle fitter expert told me that it fit like a glove. So please check out your other options. Debbie From: livingi...@q.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: saddle dilema Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:29:04 -0600 This message is from: laurie with livingi...@q.com we had a master saddle fitter come to the barn the other day because two of us have been having troubles fitting our horses. i got a dressage saddle, a nice older albion, XW 19 inch that i thought might fit both of us but wasn't sure. it doesn't fit him. we might or might not be able to adjust it, but i am not that emotionally attached to it. i then told her that i rode in a Balanced Ride Saddle, which really got her attention since she knows how well built they are, and the principles behind them (google john fallis saddles if interested). i have been riding in mine since before i got oz. imagine my shock when we put it on and she immediately said it was too tight on his withers and bridges on his back. i never expected that, and felt guilty that i didn't realize it for all this time. i didn't expect to be trying to find saddle options, but here i am. there is a possibility that it can be used with a contoured wool pad, but not for sure. i contacted the maker (these are all done by hand and custom made. i got one made by my former riding instructor's husband who worked with john fallis on his methods) who said he can't make it bigger, and i would have to buy a custom one if i wanted one. he suggested that most of the ones that can be found for sale used most likely won't fit a fjord. and even used, they aren't cheap. i am crushed right now. my finances this year are really sucky. i don't want to ride him on a saddle that doesn't fit, and i have ridden this one for so long i have no idea what else is out there. any ideas or suggestions? treeless? aussie? i'm not so worried about the dressage, but i am getting into the western dressage movement, and really need to fix this. thanks laurie and oz the yak Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
saddles and Western dressage
This message is from: bbd...@aol.com Laurie, Why not demo a Barefoot treeless? I have a Barefoot Missoula saddle that I dabble in Western dressage with. It certainly solves the bridging problem and the changeable pommels come in a really wide width. The Barefoot Arizona looks nice, too, and they are not too expensive. Isn't the new Western dressage exciting? We are all equal now...haha..don't need a QH or paint to get good scores in western dressage! I'm a bit confused about the rules, though. Bonnie Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: saddle dilema
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com Laurie, I totally understand about what the saddle fitter is telling you about the Fallis saddle. I have ridden in one (my friend has a nice older one for her QH) and they are different in that you get a truer seat position, not too chair-like and built up so you get behind the motion as most other western saddles tend to.The stirrups hang under you and the saddles are rigged differently w/ less bulk. But I digress. I think for most fjords, IF you are going 'traditional' western, unless the saddle is custom made, and that means from the tree up, that you will never get a 100% good fit. I know because I worked w/ a really good saddle maker ( Rick Ricotti) to make my saddle (wow, has it been over 20 years ago??!! OMG.) Rick also happened to be a very good civil engineer and was really into getting the tree to fit. Took us 3 attempts at sending the tree back + forth w/ the tree guy in Utah. This is not for the faint of heart as yes it will cost you. But the good thing is I still ride in that saddle and it fits 97% of what I ride, even non-fjords. Its also kept a good value should I ever part with it (no). Here's what we did: 1. Shortened the bars - in standard trees bars are too long and are the most responsible aspect for bridging 2. the bars need to curve more to fit through the back 3. the ends of the bars need flaring also called rocking @ each end, esp. in the front to allow a wider stance/gullet. Anyways, I know this isn't what you wanted to hear but it's just what I know from experience. Maybe go all english? Good luck, Karen in Oregon Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Stella
This message is from: Susan Giargiari felicityfjo...@live.com Hi Listers! Sue g. here.SamI will definetly be over for a visit! Carol, Susie F., Kay and the rest who have written me privately...I will get back to all of you tomorrow! Anthony is coming for a visit for a few days on his way to move to Florida with a friend and Gramma (Me!) will have some time to myself! Awesome to hear from you all!!! I feel as if I have lived another whole lifetime since being in touch with any of you! Mary O. .my Stella is Stella I from Norway ( STELLA I N-14942 ) , imported as a yearling and owned by Skoal Farm and Meg Joe Hempell. We bought her as a 4 year old with a week old foal, SF Sunday, standing at her side.how could one resist that??? Sam...Stella did have a 'B' foal who is owned by Kay Konove. He is listed in the Pedigree Site of the NFHR but no Reg. #, his name is Bojangles! ( changed from Brady) CarolI can't believe Patrick is 16! He is a Konggard son by that cute little foal (SF Sunday) we fell in love with at Skoal Farm! Wow!! I love the term.Goggle Fjords!! I did see yours ..Karen! Cool! and yes..Hilmar has his head downis there any other pose that a Fjord knows how to do??? lol I spent the last 4 years working part time as a seamstress at a place called Eddie's Wheels for Petsthey make wheel chairs for dogs!! What an awesome contribution to disabled pets...yes ...pets...dogs, cats, mini pony, llamas, pigs, lambs/sheep and even ferrets! Check them out on line! Although I am no longer a member of the 'team' :( there is some great stories and videos that will bring a tear to any animal lovers eyes!! Till next time.happy ridingor I guess I should say...skijoring!! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: saddle dilema
This message is from: Mary Ofjord ma...@boreal.org I had a similar experience with Dry Fork Saddles in Vernal, Utah. I worked with a fellow named Cal Cook. They asked for a picture of my horse, Mirage, with measurements showing his very short back - 13 from withers to loin. They also had to shave the tree to shorten it. I had to send them pictures, with measurements so they could correctly fit the saddle to the horse. They asked what I did for riding, how tall I was, etc. They built a saddle around those specifications. Dry Fork Saddles makes the McCall saddle. It is not a custom saddle, but the closest thing for much less than a custom. These are good working saddles and the saddle I received is wide enough through the gullet to fit all my Fjords. By far, this is the most comfortable saddle I have owned. When I first sat in it, it fit me like a glove. There was no break in time. The pre-turned stirrups were even set for my height when I first sat in the saddle. They also suggested that I do Mother Hubbard style with only one rear skirt. This lessens the weight and length of the overall saddle. I ordered a Wood Post Pendleton Association tree with a swell fork for more security (never could figure out why to buy a Wade-type tree only to add saddle falsies?). I would reccomend these saddles highly. Mary O. I have tried a lot of saddles over the years to fit Fjords. So far, this has been the best for a non-custom Western saddle. Here's what we did: 1. Shortened the bars - in standard trees bars are too long and are the most responsible aspect for bridging 2. the bars need to curve more to fit through the back 3. the ends of the bars need flaring also called rocking @ each end, esp. in the front to allow a wider stance/gullet. Anyways, I know this isn't what you wanted to hear but it's just what I know from experience. Maybe go all english? Good luck, Karen in Oregon Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5863 (20110210) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5863 (20110210) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: saddle dilema
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com Hey Mary, that is a cool story. Yes, Mother Hubbard skirts are excellent for shorter backs as with a reg. western saddle the (?) jockey skirt gets shoved pretty far under the shorter skirt, and there's not a lot of tooling room, so why bother to have 1.5 - 2 hanging out? Also by wade tree, are you maybe referring to the type of fork, a slick fork which is common to these trees and then people use bucking rolls? Being an english rider 1st, I really like the slick fork as it doesn't have those nasty bulges to bash your leg into. 'Course I learned in an english saddle so feel a bit trapped by a regular fork. Really hate aussie saddles - almost feels like I am locked in, ugh! Also, in these buckaroo type saddles people get really carried away with the saddle horns. Unless you are a HD roper, forget those 3 post horns. Only good for setting your B'day cupcake on once a year! A mexican style horn stays outta the way, but if you need it to dally on or hang onto, it's there. All personal preference jmpo of course.. From: ma...@boreal.org To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: saddle dilema Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:06:59 -0600 This message is from: Mary Ofjord ma...@boreal.org I had a similar experience with Dry Fork Saddles in Vernal, Utah. I worked with a fellow named Cal Cook. They asked for a picture of my horse, Mirage, with measurements showing his very short back - 13 from withers to loin. They also had to shave the tree to shorten it. I had to send them pictures, with measurements so they could correctly fit the saddle to the horse. They asked what I did for riding, how tall I was, etc. They built a saddle around those specifications. Dry Fork Saddles makes the McCall saddle. It is not a custom saddle, but the closest thing for much less than a custom. These are good working saddles and the saddle I received is wide enough through the gullet to fit all my Fjords. By far, this is the most comfortable saddle I have owned. When I first sat in it, it fit me like a glove. There was no break in time. The pre-turned stirrups were even set for my height when I first sat in the saddle. They also suggested that I do Mother Hubbard style with only one rear skirt. This lessens the weight and length of the overall saddle. I ordered a Wood Post Pendleton Association tree with a swell fork for more security (never could figure out why to buy a Wade-type tree only to add saddle falsies?). I would reccomend these saddles highly. Mary O. I have tried a lot of saddles over the years to fit Fjords. So far, this has been the best for a non-custom Western saddle. Here's what we did: 1. Shortened the bars - in standard trees bars are too long and are the most responsible aspect for bridging 2. the bars need to curve more to fit through the back 3. the ends of the bars need flaring also called rocking @ each end, esp. in the front to allow a wider stance/gullet. Anyways, I know this isn't what you wanted to hear but it's just what I know from experience. Maybe go all english? Good luck, Karen in Oregon Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5863 (20110210) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5863 (20110210) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
not trimming post :~()
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com A Grande-sized apology to the List Master for not trimming my (previous) post. Tcsh-tcsh! my bad. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: saddle dilema
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com My problem was fitting multiple horses. I didn't want to have several saddles that may or may not fit. And since I needed something to fit my less-than-perfect physique, I wanted something to take to lessons as well. The problem with most fixed tree saddles is that no matter how you customize it, it will only fit that horse at that time. Soon as they change...poof. It doesn't fit. So, I ended up going with an American Flex saddle from Hill View Farms in Minnesota as recommended by someone in one of the Fjord list archives. Thus far, it's been great. Rode in it on a Fjord, Andalusian, Warmblood, 14.1 aged Arabian, and a bowling ball of a 13.3 hh Morgan mare. It's been used by friends on a 17hh Percheron, quarter horses and a peaky-withered Thoroughbred. It moves great with their backs, leaves even sweat patterns, no bridging and a clear channel over the spine. Horse gets the advantage of the panel system, while I get a tree (which keeps me off the horse's back--I'm just too heavy for a straight treeless). I started out with dressage and currently take lessons with a dressage instructor using a bosal hackamore and mecate rein on a horse that's trained for dressage and Californio/vaquero riding. Only saddle I've had where I can take up a balanced 2 point without struggling. The system for the saddles: http://www.american-flex.com/system%20discription.htm Pictures of the Caliente I had made last year: http://www.american-flex.com/caliente.htm The fenders may look funny, but that's because I have really short legs. I had a tall cantle and the shortest skirts I could manage with a 17 inch seat (padded up, so it fits like a 16.5, but with lots of cush). Good luck, Laurie! They make dressage saddles too... -Julia Webb Wellington, CO The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. Albert Einstein Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
