Re: Heaves

2012-05-17 Thread Kim Manzoni
This message is from: Kim Manzoni kim.manz...@yahoo.com


Wow! So many responses about Toby and Heaves - thank you all for your kindness
and support.

Yes, the vet has me soaking his hay for 10 minutes before
putting in the feeders. We dont have stalls, just outside run in sheds.
We
live in an area where winters are fairly mild (mainland Maryland gets the
snow, we are on the peninsula of MD and rarely get much) so Toby does not
spend any time in a barn.
We have a dirt lot that they stay on during the day
with the run in sheds and after dinner at night we turn them out on the
pasture. We dont leave them on the pasture all day because of founder.
The
peninsula is very sandy of course and we are always trying to ward off Sand
Colic. Its dusty, high pollen, windy and with all the farm fields around and
chicken houses... it can smell moldy. 
So any of these things can be the
culprit and will continue to be around no matter what I do. I can only treat
his hay and treat him with meds. 

Right now he is getting Prednisone,
Albuterol and Axium (or Azium, dont remember the spelling).

After three weeks
of rest and meds she will re-evaluate to see what meds to give at that time
and to see if he could be ridden.
He is my only riding horse.  :(  My husband
has his horse and a 2 yr old that he is training. I have Toby and my Fjord
baby, Titan.
We also have an elderly rescue shetland pony Sadie and a rescue
QH that we bought off of a slaughter house bound truck last year, Sonny.
Sonny
can be ridden at a walk for about 30 minutes only - he has severe navicular.
So it looks like my riding season is over before it began.
I am upset about it
but more upset that Toby is not well. I would give up riding to get back his
health.

As a side question... how do you all store your hay? We have ours in
a hay loft and some in our feed room. But from what I read yesterday, hay
shouldnt be kept in a hay loft???
Well, then how do you keep it and keep it
from getting dusty? 
We get two string sq bales from a local hay guy and we
also get one of our pastures baled twice a year if we can.

Thank you all
again for your help and support. 

And to keep this Fjordy...  Titan is doing
very well. He is 9 months old and a real funny character. He is still
separated from the other horses. Our herd leader can be aggressive so we are
giving Titan time to grow before we introduce him into the main herd. What do
you all find is a good age to start introducing your babies into the full
population?

Kim in Md.

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Re: Heaves

2012-05-17 Thread Vicki Johnston
This message is from: Vicki Johnston vjohn...@bellsouth.net


Check out the Yahoo group at:

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/COPD_HEAVES/

My curly was on dexamethasone for about 10 years before I discovered this 
group.  I am following their recommended protocol for MSM and blue green algae 
(I am using E3AFA for horses and it is expensive but goes a very long way).  I 
was able to take him off the dexamethasone.

I always soak hay for at least one hour and 2 hours is better.  It will get the 
dust out of the hay which is a major irritant and trigger.  I put it in bags, 
so that it is not picking up dirt or dust after that.  I recommend Nibblenet 
slow feeder hay bags by Thin Air Canvas, and I recommend the smallest mesh if 
you are feeding grass hay.  They have a bag that flips from 1 1/2 inch on one 
side to 1 inch on the other side.  You can get them used to the bag with the 1 
1/2 inch side and then use the 1 inch.  The two inch is too big for a grass hay 
in my opinion.

Good luck, and I really recommend the Yahoo Group.  The administrator is very 
helpful.

Vicki
Mims, FL

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soaking hay

2012-05-17 Thread Debby

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I'd wondered about the soaking hay, for a horse with heaves.  I do 
understand to soak it, get the dust off of it.  I'd done that before, used a 
spray on the end of a hose, put a few flakes in and spray it and wash the 
hay pretty much.  But why would you soak it for hours to get the dust off? 
I know that’s done to get the starch out, for ones with IR.  But why for 
heaves.  I'd not heard that this horse who's been diagnosed with heaves is 
IR too.


The other concern at this time of the year, soaking hay for several hours, 
the hay can turn rancid really quick.  In the winter time, its not an issue, 
but with warmer weather, one has to be very careful with that.
The one thing about soaking hay that I've noticed, one can tell if they have 
good hay or not, just by the color of the water.  Green water, good hay, 
brown water, not so good.


And some horses will turn up there noses at water soaked hay, so have to 
watch that.  I'd think the last thing this horse would need is to be 
stressed.

Just some thoughts.
Debby

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Hay storage

2012-05-17 Thread Mary Ofjord

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Our hay is stored in a hay shed.  Probably 20 X 40 feet, and 15 foot high 
roof.  The majority of our usual delivery of 230 bales of 70# each are 
stored there.  The rest are stored in a covered leanto on the north side of 
our run-in shed for the horses.  Some is stored in the barn - on the floor 
on pallets, not in a loft.  We usually try and buy ahead during the winter 
months to make sure we have hay on hand in case the weather turns foul since 
our hay comes from about 150 miles away.  Once the hay shed is full, we 
store the hay in the barn and leanto.


I read with interest about the lady who had to have air conditioning for 
their hay. Yikes!


As a side question... how do you all store your hay? We have ours in
a hay loft and some in our feed room. But from what I read yesterday, hay
shouldnt be kept in a hay loft???
Well, then how do you keep it and keep it
from getting dusty?



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NFHR Filly and Gelding for sale

2012-05-17 Thread Misha Michael

This message is from: Misha  Michael misha...@eoni.com


Hi All:

I have a lovely brown dun 2yo filly for sale. Shota's Sunne. She is a quiet 
and unflappable type, yet athletic and sound. Tall and leggy she should 
easily mature 14.2 hands. She has been imprinted and is learning natural 
horsemanship groundwork. Sunne is a joy to work with and a great all around 
riding driving prospect. She is out of Oddens Evy Bolseth (grey) and 
Woodland's Jovan. I also have a lightly started 4yo Grey dun gelding for 
sale, OFI Emil. He is out of my blue ribbon eval mare Kjor's Elianna and KF 
Soren. Emil is about the cutest Fjord you ever saw. Emil is super sweet and 
sensitive, has big round movment  nice extension and lots of pep yet just 
thrilled to be working with some one. He is an awesome sport pony prospect. 
13.3 hands and strong sound and spectacular moving. Could he be your next 
dressage pony? We are in the Northeastern corner of Oregon and you can 
contact me via email at misha...@eoni.com for photos or more information. 
Hopefully one of these outstanding ponies will go home with one of you.


Misha at Shota Fjords 


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Re: soaking hay - Soph is a dunker

2012-05-17 Thread divingduoandcorgis
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Soph mov ed to a barn with buckets (in lieu of electric waterers) and
immediately started dunking  -  she also prefers her pink bucket from her
burgundy one and yes, knows them apart.  haha   She likes to play in the
hose too... I figured she just liked the water. 


Beth, Bob, the Corgis and the Fjord

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To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:06:33 PM
Subject: Re: soaking hay

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I, too, wondered about soaking hay for hours.  I have read that is leaches
out the nutrients if left to soak too long.

 I'd wondered about the soaking hay, for a horse with heaves.  .
 But why would you soak it for hours to get the dust off?

And on the other hand  - one of our Fjords learned to dunk her hay when we
took her to horse shows.  She didn't do it at home, probably because the hay
was too far from the water trough, but in her stall she would take a
mouthful of hay and dunk it in her water, good Norwegian that she is.

 And some horses will turn up there noses at water soaked hay, so have to
 watch that.


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Fjords for sale

2012-05-17 Thread Corinne and Scott Logan
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Hello all!
For those new or those who forgot, we do offer free, photo ads of registered
Norwegian Fjords on our website. Recently, our website topped 10,000 hits in
one month with the number one page being the Fjord horses for sale! People
specifically looking for our amazing, Fjord horses. :-)
If you have a Fjord for sale, you can take a look at our page at :
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to list, you can go directly to:
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As a related note, we bought a Fjord mare recently who was diagnosed with
Pemphygus Dermatitis shortly after we purchased her. She is now weaned off the
meds and seems to be holding fine. Sweet personality, but not going to be
suitable for a breeding program.  The number one reason we purchased her.  She
is trained to ride - actually likes to canter! - and is trained for ground
driving as well. If you know of someone looking for a very inexpensive Fjord
or a non-profit that would like a donation (she would be a suitable candidate
for therapy, but comes with the diagnosis), please contact us.
Enjoying the sunshine in the Idaho desert,

Corinne Logan
Willows Edge Farm
Boise/Kuna, Idaho
www.willowsedgefarm.com
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