Re: Heaves
This message is from: Kim Manzoni kim.manz...@yahoo.com Wow! So many responses about Toby and Heaves - thank you all for your kindness and support. Yes, the vet has me soaking his hay for 10 minutes before putting in the feeders. We dont have stalls, just outside run in sheds. We live in an area where winters are fairly mild (mainland Maryland gets the snow, we are on the peninsula of MD and rarely get much) so Toby does not spend any time in a barn. We have a dirt lot that they stay on during the day with the run in sheds and after dinner at night we turn them out on the pasture. We dont leave them on the pasture all day because of founder. The peninsula is very sandy of course and we are always trying to ward off Sand Colic. Its dusty, high pollen, windy and with all the farm fields around and chicken houses... it can smell moldy. So any of these things can be the culprit and will continue to be around no matter what I do. I can only treat his hay and treat him with meds. Right now he is getting Prednisone, Albuterol and Axium (or Azium, dont remember the spelling). After three weeks of rest and meds she will re-evaluate to see what meds to give at that time and to see if he could be ridden. He is my only riding horse. :( My husband has his horse and a 2 yr old that he is training. I have Toby and my Fjord baby, Titan. We also have an elderly rescue shetland pony Sadie and a rescue QH that we bought off of a slaughter house bound truck last year, Sonny. Sonny can be ridden at a walk for about 30 minutes only - he has severe navicular. So it looks like my riding season is over before it began. I am upset about it but more upset that Toby is not well. I would give up riding to get back his health. As a side question... how do you all store your hay? We have ours in a hay loft and some in our feed room. But from what I read yesterday, hay shouldnt be kept in a hay loft??? Well, then how do you keep it and keep it from getting dusty? We get two string sq bales from a local hay guy and we also get one of our pastures baled twice a year if we can. Thank you all again for your help and support. And to keep this Fjordy... Titan is doing very well. He is 9 months old and a real funny character. He is still separated from the other horses. Our herd leader can be aggressive so we are giving Titan time to grow before we introduce him into the main herd. What do you all find is a good age to start introducing your babies into the full population? Kim in Md. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Heaves
This message is from: Vicki Johnston vjohn...@bellsouth.net Check out the Yahoo group at: http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/COPD_HEAVES/ My curly was on dexamethasone for about 10 years before I discovered this group. I am following their recommended protocol for MSM and blue green algae (I am using E3AFA for horses and it is expensive but goes a very long way). I was able to take him off the dexamethasone. I always soak hay for at least one hour and 2 hours is better. It will get the dust out of the hay which is a major irritant and trigger. I put it in bags, so that it is not picking up dirt or dust after that. I recommend Nibblenet slow feeder hay bags by Thin Air Canvas, and I recommend the smallest mesh if you are feeding grass hay. They have a bag that flips from 1 1/2 inch on one side to 1 inch on the other side. You can get them used to the bag with the 1 1/2 inch side and then use the 1 inch. The two inch is too big for a grass hay in my opinion. Good luck, and I really recommend the Yahoo Group. The administrator is very helpful. Vicki Mims, FL Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
soaking hay
This message is from: Debby debby.s...@earthlink.net I'd wondered about the soaking hay, for a horse with heaves. I do understand to soak it, get the dust off of it. I'd done that before, used a spray on the end of a hose, put a few flakes in and spray it and wash the hay pretty much. But why would you soak it for hours to get the dust off? I know that’s done to get the starch out, for ones with IR. But why for heaves. I'd not heard that this horse who's been diagnosed with heaves is IR too. The other concern at this time of the year, soaking hay for several hours, the hay can turn rancid really quick. In the winter time, its not an issue, but with warmer weather, one has to be very careful with that. The one thing about soaking hay that I've noticed, one can tell if they have good hay or not, just by the color of the water. Green water, good hay, brown water, not so good. And some horses will turn up there noses at water soaked hay, so have to watch that. I'd think the last thing this horse would need is to be stressed. Just some thoughts. Debby Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Hay storage
This message is from: Mary Ofjord ma...@boreal.org Our hay is stored in a hay shed. Probably 20 X 40 feet, and 15 foot high roof. The majority of our usual delivery of 230 bales of 70# each are stored there. The rest are stored in a covered leanto on the north side of our run-in shed for the horses. Some is stored in the barn - on the floor on pallets, not in a loft. We usually try and buy ahead during the winter months to make sure we have hay on hand in case the weather turns foul since our hay comes from about 150 miles away. Once the hay shed is full, we store the hay in the barn and leanto. I read with interest about the lady who had to have air conditioning for their hay. Yikes! As a side question... how do you all store your hay? We have ours in a hay loft and some in our feed room. But from what I read yesterday, hay shouldnt be kept in a hay loft??? Well, then how do you keep it and keep it from getting dusty? __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7145 (20120517) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
NFHR Filly and Gelding for sale
This message is from: Misha Michael misha...@eoni.com Hi All: I have a lovely brown dun 2yo filly for sale. Shota's Sunne. She is a quiet and unflappable type, yet athletic and sound. Tall and leggy she should easily mature 14.2 hands. She has been imprinted and is learning natural horsemanship groundwork. Sunne is a joy to work with and a great all around riding driving prospect. She is out of Oddens Evy Bolseth (grey) and Woodland's Jovan. I also have a lightly started 4yo Grey dun gelding for sale, OFI Emil. He is out of my blue ribbon eval mare Kjor's Elianna and KF Soren. Emil is about the cutest Fjord you ever saw. Emil is super sweet and sensitive, has big round movment nice extension and lots of pep yet just thrilled to be working with some one. He is an awesome sport pony prospect. 13.3 hands and strong sound and spectacular moving. Could he be your next dressage pony? We are in the Northeastern corner of Oregon and you can contact me via email at misha...@eoni.com for photos or more information. Hopefully one of these outstanding ponies will go home with one of you. Misha at Shota Fjords Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: soaking hay - Soph is a dunker
This message is from: divingduoandcor...@comcast.net Soph mov ed to a barn with buckets (in lieu of electric waterers) and immediately started dunking - she also prefers her pink bucket from her burgundy one and yes, knows them apart. haha  She likes to play in the hose too... I figured she just liked the water. Beth, Bob, the Corgis and the Fjord - Original Message - From: Mary Ofjord ma...@boreal.org To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:06:33 PM Subject: Re: soaking hay This message is from: Mary Ofjord ma...@boreal.org I, too, wondered about soaking hay for hours.  I have read that is leaches out the nutrients if left to soak too long. I'd wondered about the soaking hay, for a horse with heaves.  . But why would you soak it for hours to get the dust off? And on the other hand  - one of our Fjords learned to dunk her hay when we took her to horse shows.  She didn't do it at home, probably because the hay was too far from the water trough, but in her stall she would take a mouthful of hay and dunk it in her water, good Norwegian that she is. And some horses will turn up there noses at water soaked hay, so have to watch that. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7146 (20120517) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Fjords for sale
This message is from: Corinne and Scott Logan willowsedgef...@msn.com Hello all! For those new or those who forgot, we do offer free, photo ads of registered Norwegian Fjords on our website. Recently, our website topped 10,000 hits in one month with the number one page being the Fjord horses for sale! People specifically looking for our amazing, Fjord horses. :-) If you have a Fjord for sale, you can take a look at our page at : http://www.willowsedgefarm.com/fjord-horses-for-sale.html or if you have one to list, you can go directly to: http://www.willowsedgefarm.com/sales-listing.html. As a related note, we bought a Fjord mare recently who was diagnosed with Pemphygus Dermatitis shortly after we purchased her. She is now weaned off the meds and seems to be holding fine. Sweet personality, but not going to be suitable for a breeding program. The number one reason we purchased her. She is trained to ride - actually likes to canter! - and is trained for ground driving as well. If you know of someone looking for a very inexpensive Fjord or a non-profit that would like a donation (she would be a suitable candidate for therapy, but comes with the diagnosis), please contact us. Enjoying the sunshine in the Idaho desert, Corinne Logan Willows Edge Farm Boise/Kuna, Idaho www.willowsedgefarm.com https://www.facebook.com/WillowsEdgeFarmIdaho Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l