Fjord pee
This message is from: brass-ring-f...@juno.com So how do you handle all this pee? I have 12 foot overhangs the 2 Fjords like to hang out under in this hot and flyish season. They pee there continuously. Or if they are not too far away they will come there to pee also. Despite copious use of lime and/or Sweet PDZ Stall Freshener, and lots of shavings, and cleaning out twice a day, I cannot seem to get ahead of this. There is a nice sand base which should drain, but it is instead getting kind of icky in this weather. Mine have 50lb salt blocks in the pasture they share with the deer, except for one who is shut in at night to control her feed intake and she has a small block also in her stall in a plastic bucket. I like them to have access to salt all the time in this weather. The deer like the blocks also. Valerie Columbia, CT 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ff2f0c5434536be1m03vuc Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
sweet pleasure driving vehicle
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com Just FYI, I just saw this sweet ladies wicker drop front phaeton that someone was advertising on the CDList.Would be super cool for someone who is into pleasure driving parades - its different, fancy but inderstated. Definitely a summer pleasure vehicle. The metal work on the running gear and the way the wicker merges into the body is quite stunning. It is for sale for 3k which if you consider the rarity condition is quite a decent price. If only I was closer...maybe the only thing I would try to alter is the width of the shafts where they attach to the vehicle (24) which would require a bit of careful work or new shafts. http://sports.webshots.com/album/583049787mvNWut contact Carolyn Lemoine northwind_f...@yahoo.com :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:16:17 -0400 Subject: Fjord pee From: brass-ring-f...@juno.com This message is from: brass-ring-f...@juno.com So how do you handle all this pee? I have 12 foot overhangs the 2 Fjords like to hang out under in this hot and flyish season. They pee there continuously. Or if they are not too far away they will come there to pee also. Despite copious use of lime and/or Sweet PDZ Stall Freshener, and lots of shavings, and cleaning out twice a day, I cannot seem to get ahead of this. There is a nice sand base which should drain, but it is instead getting kind of icky in this weather. Mine have 50lb salt blocks in the pasture they share with the deer, except for one who is shut in at night to control her feed intake and she has a small block also in her stall in a plastic bucket. I like them to have access to salt all the time in this weather. The deer like the blocks also. Valerie Columbia, CT 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ff2f0c5434536be1m03vuc Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Hoof supplements
This message is from: Gayle fofdfjo...@clearwire.net Does anyone know if any of the supplements that are supposed to promote healthy hoof growth really work? Eve would benefit. Still waiting for her to grow out of the abcess from last summer. Farrier's opinion is that she has thinner hoof walls than average. Her daughter, crossed w. Ole, has thick hoof walls. Hi There, In regard to feeding supplements to improve hoof growth, I find that most of those products on the market do not contain enough biotin. Biotin also needs to be in combination with methionine. Most of the products contain 15 - 25 mg of biotin per serving which is OK for maintenance, but not enough to repair. My farrier suggests at least 50 mg per day and there are a few products that do have that much. So we need to read the label! It does take 9 months to a year to fully grow out a hoof from the coronet band down. After putting a horse on 50 mg per day biotin/methionine you can actually see the change in the hoof wall and follow it's progression downward. Hope that helps. Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR www.fjordhorse.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
peeing ponies
This message is from: Debby debby.s...@earthlink.net Its funny with horses/ponies, all have their fav. spots to pee and seems the girls even where they poop. I'd found the geldings kind of not so particular. My Lang I had was a good boy, if he had access to outside, he'd rather go outside, leaving his stall clean. Another fjord gelding I'd had for a bit, was the same way, would keep the stall clean and step outside into the sand. Which sometimes was an issue too, always using the same spot over and over, it becomes a bit much for the sand to handle. So we'd have to removed heavy stinky wet sand, digging to the ground and then add more sand. The fjords always drank more water and the girls seemed to drink more than the geldings. Amber was a guzzler and Ynde just holds her head over the bucket and slow small sips. Amber would drink to 5 gallon buckets clean by morning, having filled them up the night before, not dinner time, the evening, say 9pm. The vet told me take one bucket away, she didn't need that much water. I must say when the girls would pee, it was fairly clear, water in, water out. I did start using the wetted down pelleted shavings for the girls, as they would pee in the same spot, so it gets expensive, almost stripping it everyday, but least it was only in a small area of the stall, the rest of the stall was clean. Add some pdz to the clean mat, then another bag of the wetted pellets, and cover with a bit of shavings. Eventually the shavings in the other part of the stall would break down, to smaller pieces, and I'd use it in the wet spots, so didn't have to do much stripping of the stalls. The geldings basically would pee in the middle of the stall, so some pdz there and shavings, they just didn't pee as much. Never had a breed to pee as much as fjords though. Debby in Tx Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: salt supplement/hoof supplement
This message is from: Sharon s_obri...@verizon.net Hope wrote Does anyone know if any of the supplements that are supposed to promote healthy hoof growth really work? Eve would benefit. Still waiting for her to grow out of the abcess from last summer. Farrier's opinion is that she has thinner hoof walls than average. Hi, I read the posts about salt and hoof supplements and here's what I do. salt supplements - In an effort to streamline my horse's supplement bucket and save some $$, I started her on Dr. Dan's Red-Cal minerals http://www.thenaturalvet.net/RED-CAL_c_3.html and his vitamins and oil. (Red-Cal 25 lb bag is $95.69 which is 440 oz, at 1oz/day that's @1 year and 2 months worth, @$6/mo. I get the high magnesium for $14 more a bag. The extra magnesium helps the easy keepers with insulin resistance). All my friends panic at the price until they realize it lasts one horse over a year and has probiotics and antioxidants in it. Red-Cal is mined from a Utah sea bed. It contains GUARANTEED ANALYSIS: Calcuim, Min. 13.5% - Max. 15.5%, Phosphorus, Min. 0.10%, Organic Natural Sea Salt, Min. 38% - Max. 41%, Zinc, Min. 25 ppm INGREDIENTS: Organic Natural Sea Salt, Ground Dried Grape Seed Pomace, Calcium Carbonate, Yeast Culture, Diatomaceous Earth, Garlic, Montmorillonite, Thiamine Mononitrate, Selenium Yeast Culture, Distillers Grain, Mineral Oil. CONTAINS NO ADDED POTASSIUM OR COPPER. CONTAINS ORGANIC SELENIUM. Red-Cal can be put in a bucket for free choice. If they need it, they'll eat it right off but don't seem to overeat it. Once they fill their deficiency, they eat it as needed. If it gets wet, just pour off the water, break up the clumps and it's good to go. Or if you want to make sure how much they get, (minimum amounts so no excess peeing) you can put it in a bucket with the vitamins. I board my horse is in a pasture so I have to go the bucket routine. I put 1 oz in her every other day bucket with the water softened oat pellets and a scoop of vitamins, a ounce of Dr. Dan's GMO-free soybean oil which makes her shine like she's wet. Putting table salt into her bucket was too salty for her, she wouldn't touch it. Wouldn't lick salt blocks (Redmond or white) either. But she takes the Red-Cal in her bucket with no hesitation. I'm in southern Cal I worried about riding in the dry summer. Once she started the Red-Cal, no worries! She's always hydrated, drinks and sweats and pees normally, great feet, etc. RE: Hoof supplements- I was surprised, but the second thing that occurred with the Red-Cal for my horse and every other horse I knew with hoof troubles was their hooves responded to the naturally balancec minerals and got better! (thin wall, thin sole, white line disease, hoofs that wore too fast, hoofs that were too hard and brittle, didn't grow, etc). My friends and I did this test very scientifically. I gave them a 2 mo supply (1oz/day) to start just after a trim. (My 6 friends and I all share the same barefoot trimmer and we did not tell him so it was a blind test). When the trimmer returned 6 weeks later, he vouluntarily exclaimed how much each hoof had changed and improved. None of us prompted him. (2 quarterhorses-one brittle, one thin sole, paint, mustang, throughbred, foxtrotter, pony, curley). The walls and soles got thicker and began to shed off normally, hoofs got harder, the brittle ones-softer, and the most dramatic was the one with bad white line disease was transformed into normal! That horse's owner ran out and didn't get more. She called me in a panic 3 weeks later-the white line was back 1/4 deep and wide, and now his front feet were affected too and the rears were additionally coming apart! I loaned her more Red-Cal until her's arrived. 2 1/2 weeks later- white line was just about gone and she will not run out again. After our trimmer saw each improvement he was told of the Red-Cal supplement, which was the only common denominator. He used to recommend another hoof/mineral supplement. Now he recomments Red-Cal. A bag Red-Cal is pricey up front but lasts over a year, and it taken the worry from me about my horse not eating enough salt or eating too much, or getting the right balance of minerals. Additonally the montmorillite clay takes care of any mycotoxins from bad feed (encapsulates and ushers out of the body), it contains probiotics so I don't have to pay for a separate supplement (yea), the diatomaceous earth lowers the worm population in the digestive tract by slicing the exoskeletons of the worms, garlic for flies and the grape seed extract is an antioxidant. I know this must sound like an ad. My friend and I started it as our vitamin and mineral supplement. But after a few weeks the hoof improvements were so noticeable. And it's improved every foot of my friend's horses who have tried it. I love it because her bucket is so simple now. One more thing- when it gets real hot in September, I bump up the Red-Cal to 2 oz/day every other day for a few
re: cushings
This message is from: Sharon s_obri...@verizon.net Jane in Maine wrote: Geilo (Eggeprins, MVF Stine), our not quite 19 year old gelding, has cushings. The difference in the two fjords is huge. Several years ago it was hard to tell them apart at a quick glance. Now Geilo looks OLD. Long shaggy dull hair coat, grumpy, tired, sweaty. It's a bear of a disease. . You might look into Evitex to help control the cushings symptoms. I have had fantastic results with it. The gals there are honest about Evitex and have helped me save my horse. http://www.emeraldvalleyequine.com/evitex.cfm our story-3 years ago when my horse was 10, very slowly, over a couple of years, my horse developed the extra coat, curly, loss muscle tone and energy and a very big hard crest. It became glaringly apparent something was wrong when, in that March, she gained 142 lbs in 4 weeks on the same free choice alfalfa, in the same 1/2 acre drylot pasture she'd been in for 2 years. I researched the cushings, tests, pergoglide, change of diets, etc, but because I boarded and didn't see my horse every day I was feeling stuck about if she had it, how to give daily medicine and take care of her. I decided to try the Evitex (after all, it made sense to me that since the pituitary gland controls every other system in the body and if was out of whack, treating the symptom with pergoglide, thyroid meds would not fix it. Would help, but not fix it. I wanted to help the pituitary run things right and hoped it would straighten out every hormone system.) I now understand the differences between equine metabolic disease and cushings and how some think one is a precursor to the other and there's no stopping the progression at this time. But, I thought if I could get her body more right side up and support it, maybe we could greatly delay or minimize the progression. If the Evitex failed to help, I'd go to plan B and the blood tests and meds. I would know soon enough without runnung thru the expensive tests. Long story short, I started her on the 14 day loading (double) dose then reduced to daily maintenance dose. (Or in my case, every other day) It took a few days of trial and error of what to put it with so she'd take it (ended up pouring it on a couple of handfuls of dry pellets and diluting with some water to a mash like). After a couple of days, she began losing 6-8 lbs a day! It slowed down and she eventually lost 100 lbs in 4 weeks still on free choice alfalfa in the pasture. In 6 weeks she lost 150 lbs. She 'woke up' from her lethargy in week 2. She now had energy and personality. Shed out the long curly coat completely in 2 weeks. Regained her muscle tone and muscled out like I hadn't seen in years. Her crest softened. I had my horse back! We went on to trail ride all summer. The gals at Emerald Valley said this improvement was not unusual and recommended I keep her on it thru the tough fall transition. I did, no problems in the fall and during the following spring- she did not put on any weight at all. Full steam ahead. This last fall (age 12 and evidently a shift in her metabolism) we had the perfect storm. I didn't recognize a November weight gain of @60 lbs so I didn't double up the Evitex dose. We took a 2 hour trail ride, 1/2 on blacktop and she got stone bruised and a wood sliver in her frog. The Vet came to give a tetnus shot, thought she was in the very, very, very beginnings of laminitis. We treated as such just in case (instead of lameness from just severely stone bruised and punctured frog). Stall rest, Bute for 2 weeks, I doubled up on the Evitex, used homeopathic remedies and in 3 weeks she had lost the weight, was completely pain free and sound. My Vet was mystified at her extremely fast recovery. The Vet couldn't believe she didn't have laminitis, but he knew laminitis doesn't completely resolve in 3 weeks like this with no residual abcesses, rotation, etc. He had given his ok to continue the Evitex with the bute and thyroid. We dodged a big bullet. That Evitex is something else. Vet gave permission to move her to a 33 ac pasture to help her maintain her weight. We made it thru this last springtime pasture bloom with NO problems. I did double up on the Evitex for 3 weeks just in case and used the weight tape every time I saw her. I was ready to move her to a dry lot pasture if her weight went up. It did not. She is fit, good muscle tone, no shedding problems, soft crest. I know probably at some point in, I hope, many, many years, she might have to go on pergoglide. But the longer I can delay the heavy duty meds the better. For now, by looking at her and riding with us, thanks to Evitex you'd never know she has troubles. For anyone with a horse affected with Cushings or Equine Metabolic Disease, from my experience, Exitex helps a lot. The gals who answer the phone are knowledgeable and sincere. The maintenence dose is 1/4 cup/day. It costs @ $40/mo and no side effects. She gets it every other day in her
Re: ringbone/salt/et al
This message is from: laurie with livingi...@q.com interesting discussions. the vet's description of ringbone is pretty much what my vet told me when i had oz X-rayed. i know this was starting a couple of years back. i wonder if there could be a correlation between overweight and the ringbone. i think in people with bad knees (like mine, both replaced) and weight. it all puts more stress on their joints. as far as his case, the vet told the barn manager, that keeping moving is the best thing for him. not hard riding, but schlepping around kiddos in lessons would be fine, or my wandering around the farm with him. the weight issue is part of it, and he is at a very good weight now. between his muzzle, and the lessons, he is healthier looking than ever. his feet look very good, and i am amazed at how much larger they are now than before we started shoeing with the ringbone in mind. as far as salt, the first riding instructor i had was very much into natural remedies and healing, and highly suggested redmond salt, even the blocks of it that were chipped off and larger block of it. if oz is in the mood for salt, he has in the past eaten to the point of peeing a lot, but this is something he does frequently. i can almost always count on him to pee just after we get into the arena to ride. it's kind of joke with us. right now we are dealing with heat/humidity, as isso, most of the nation. 101 is predicted for tomorrow. yesterday when i went to the barn in the morning, i found oz eating standing out in the sun. his muzzle was off, which is good, because i think it restricts their breathing in some cases. however, even without it, he was breathing hard. i hosed him down for quite some time and then was lucky enough there was an empty stall, where i put him in with a fan. later in the day he was a lot better, but stayed in overnight. today he went out for a little while, but they brought him in about noon, hosed him down and let him stay inside. the owner has very nicely allowed me to keep him indoors until it cools down. it doesn't seem to bother the other outside boarders like it does him. i also spoke to her yesterday about moving him, since i felt he wasn't always riding sound, and she (and all the kids there) is so fond of him, she gave me the option of keeping him there without increasing my costs or charging me for lessons i won't take. she totally took me by surprise, and i am pleased. i didn't want to leave my best friend and the others friends there. half of the riding aspect for us is the social one, and there are several of us mature women who regularly ride there in the morning. so we are staying put, and i can stop stressing out quite so much. laurie with livingi...@q.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: cushings
This message is from: Jim Barnhart jb...@sleepyeyetel.net Jane, make sure you get a good vet to look at your horse. I also have a Cushings fjord. He is now 23 and has been on peroglide for 3-4 years. Ranec has the usual Cushings symptom of heavy coat. He hasn't show any laminitis. I'm not sure if this is a symptom of the perglide or the Cushings, but we have a devil of a time keeping weight on him. He gets extra hay, extra grain, etc. In fact we built his own lean on the side of the barn where he can eat by himself all night. I'm not an expert at all, but I think Cushings is a lot like diabetes in humans. Diabetes sufferers can have heavy weight gain or heavy weight loss. Ranec does great with his Cushings. We can ride him, etc. He does have issues with temperature management (getting hot or getting cold). In fact I just got in from giving him his second body clip of the year and a nice bath to cool him down from our 97 degree heat here in MN. Jim Barnhart -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 1:25 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: re: cushings This message is from: Sharon s_obri...@verizon.net Jane in Maine wrote: Geilo (Eggeprins, MVF Stine), our not quite 19 year old gelding, has cushings. The difference in the two fjords is huge. Several years ago it was hard to tell them apart at a quick glance. Now Geilo looks OLD. Long shaggy dull hair coat, grumpy, tired, sweaty. It's a bear of a disease. . You might look into Evitex to help control the cushings symptoms. I have had fantastic results with it. The gals there are honest about Evitex and have helped me save my horse. http://www.emeraldvalleyequine.com/evitex.cfm Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Fjord pees in one spot
This message is from: divingduoandcor...@comcast.net Loved Jean's comment...  we had to move Soph outside because she was eating her shavings.  The barn crew loves her because she pees and poops in one spot only at the end of her run...we put some shavings there originally to encourage the spot.   What is funny is that she rarely pees or even poops outside of her run.  When I put her back, even if it has been hours, she will go out to her spot and go first thing .  I also find the sometimes destructive behavior amusing.  I think they are just problem solvers. -) She once dismantled the automatic waterer...pulling the insulation completely out and removing the bowl when it was off temporarily.  I think she was trying to fix it.     CANNOT leave a stall door unlatched on the outside.  She figured out it was unlocked, opened it and was in the aisle (cleaning up dropped hay). Thanks for the great salt discussion...going to be looking into some of the items mentioned here! Very hot and dry in Colorado...but fires are more under control now! Beth, Bob, the Corgis and the Fjord - Original Message - From: jern...@mosquitonet.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 8:58:17 AM Subject: Re: Fjord pee This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Your mistake is the shavings!  They love to pee in shavings!  Instead, clean that area down to the base/dirt, and put a bunch of shavings out where you would like them to pee! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
info
This message is from: Carol Pastore cpastor...@msn.com Hello We have two Fjords for sale and I was wondering if we could post the info on the Fjord Registry or if only members can do so? I have been receiving all the information listed on the Registry for several years now. Is there a certain person/Registry email I need to contact? Just wondering . . . . let me know . . . Thank you, There is no secret so close as that between a rider and his horse.R.S. Surtees Carol Pastore M.A. Director/ Co-Founder Bridges of Health Inc.'sEquine Strategies (AKA Challenge Colorado Therapeutic Riding Program) 0536 Swede Lane Monte Vista, Colorado 81144 719-852-2795~Speech Pathologist~~PATHI Instructor~ ~PATHI Registered Therapist ~ ~American Hippotherapy Association (AHA) liaison for the State of Colorado~ Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 22:04:47 + From: divingduoandcor...@comcast.net To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Fjord pees in one spot This message is from: divingduoandcor...@comcast.net Loved Jean's comment... we had to move Soph outside because she was eating her shavings. The barn crew loves her because she pees and poops in one spot only at the end of her run...we put some shavings there originally to encourage the spot.What is funny is that she rarely pees or even poops outside of her run. When I put her back, even if it has been hours, she will go out to her spot and go first thing . I also find the sometimes destructive behavior amusing. I think they are just problem solvers. -) She once dismantled the automatic waterer...pulling the insulation completely out and removing the bowl when it was off temporarily. I think she was trying to fix it. CANNOT leave a stall door unlatched on the outside. She figured out it was unlocked, opened it and was in the aisle (cleaning up dropped hay). Thanks for the great salt discussion...going to be looking into some of the items mentioned here! Very hot and dry in Colorado...but fires are more under control now! Beth, Bob, the Corgis and the Fjord - Original Message - From: jern...@mosquitonet.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 8:58:17 AM Subject: Re: Fjord pee This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Your mistake is the shavings! They love to pee in shavings! Instead, clean that area down to the base/dirt, and put a bunch of shavings out where you would like them to pee! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: peeing ponies
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com OK, Why do you keep them in stalls? My three Fjords have two large corrals, open at each end so they can use both, and I keep the three together...they will run around the center fence and play and get a lot of exercise. They have a run-in shelter and I have a small barn with one stall where I feed the old mare Stella her mash. But they don't stay in stalls 16 hours a day, even in the winter. Why do you keep yours in stalls in Texas? When I did have the young mare separated in the pen with access to the stall all of the time, she would pee in the shavings in the stall in preference to outside on the ground where it would splatter her legs! In the winter this was a real problem as the frozen shavings and ice would build up! I used to put shavings in the run-in shelter too, but they would pee in there too with a build-up of frozen shaving in the winter, so I quit that. If you keep them in stalls with a run-in why not have rubber mats in the stalls with no shavings and they would not pee in there. Ask Lisa Pedersen how she Trains her fjords not to pee or poop in the stalls... Jean in rainy Fairbanks, Alaska..but there is no smoke from fires here! Its funny with horses/ponies, all have their fav. spots to pee and seems the girls even where they poop. I'd found the geldings kind of not so particular. My Lang I had was a good boy, if he had access to outside, he'd rather go outside, leaving his stall clean. Another fjord gelding I'd had for a bit, was the same way, would keep the stall clean and step outside into the sand. Which sometimes was an issue too, always using the same spot over and over, it becomes a bit much for the sand to handle. So we'd have to removed heavy stinky wet sand, digging to the ground and then add more sand. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: More salt
This message is from: ruth bushnell fjo...@frontiernet.net It doesn't make any sense to offer free choice salt. Mary I suppose it does appear to be excessive from a human viewpoint, one of my sons uses too much salt at the table and I have to close my eyes =) But that which eats like a horse may require much more salt.. It can sometimes be a mistake to foist our sensibilities onto an animal. I'm not versed on the subject but I can tell you what has worked for us here, we free feed white block salt and have never had a problem. They seem to self regulate their intake. A narrowed confinement might exacerbate their salt appetite into compulsory behavior, maybe requiring meted portions.. I don't know. I'm sure the salt helps them drink more too so I wouldn't withhold it. Thought I'd mention that years ago on this list it was suggested that the red mineral blocks were hard on mane and tail hairs.. increased breakage. We quit using them at that time and no problem since. Ruthie, nw mt US Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: peeing ponies, keeping horses in stalls
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com My concept of a stall is what we do in Alaska: a well insulated barn or maybe a log barn, insulated roof, etc, with an enclosed stall, 10X12 or10X12, etc, mine has two doors, most here in a barn with multiple stalls had one door opening onto an inner isle, all built for warmth, etc in the winter. But In Texas and Arizona and other warm states I've seen pictures of stalls that are made of pipe panels with a roof over them to allow breezes and air circulation. So my thinking is I don't want to keep my horse in a stall like we have here in Alaska any more than necessary, let them out to enjoy the weather when it is nice, not much of a fly problem here, very few days that are warmer than 80 degrees,etc. They need to move around even in the cold winter. Stalls are convenient for the horse owner, horses stay cleaner, etc. but I think it isn't great for the horses to be isolated and kept in a small space for 12-16 hour of their day. better that they are out moving around, in a small herd situation. Just my thoughts. Jean in Alaska, where I can watch my three Fjords playing, sleeping on the ground, or dozing together, somewhat dirty from rolling in the dirt, but happy. I think itâs a personal choice if one stalls, part time stalls, full time, pasture board with run ins, pasture board with trees. Everyone has their way of doing it, its what works for them and their horses. Horses are pretty much creatures of habit. I don't believe that the best for them is out 24/7 but I'm fine with those that do think that. In Texas, its HOT, when it gets in the 100's and stays there, no breezes, no rains, nothing should be out in it. I've seen many of the great dairy farms with the HUGE pasture waterers running them on their cows while out in pasture. And they too stall them with fans blowing and fly spray control. If the beef cows have access to ponds, thatâs usually where you will find them. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
