Re: Camptown Pair lines, Glory Bits, and collars/hames for sale
This message is from: "Barbara Lynch" Dave, We want the pair lines! I will send a check as soon as you find our how much the shipping is. Thanks, Barb and Fred Lynch - Original Message - From: "David MCWethy" <4nh...@gmail.com> To: "FjordList" ; "CD-L" ; "REDList" Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:38 PM Subject: Camptown Pair lines, Glory Bits, and collars/hames for sale This message is from: David MCWethy <4nh...@gmail.com> I have a set of brown Beta pair lines to sell. These were scarcely used. I normally used 7/8" lines. Used, yes, but in very good condition. No wear at all to the billets that attach to the bits. Specs: 3/4 inch width, suitable to all but the smallest and largest hands. Stainless hardware. Half price of new, $45. Priority shipping $12.35 Glory Bits. Swivel cheek butterfly. I have two that are 6.25 and two that are 6.5 wide. All bits and curb straps are used but serviceable. $48 plus $8 shipping each. Two carriage collars, from either Coblenz or Sugar Creek. These are midway between fine carriage collars and work collars, I think the "buggy collar". I used them twice, so they are essentially new. The sizes are 23 inch. Also, I have four sets of stainless carriage hames, with attached harness, to buckle into a Camptown Harness in place of a breast collar. These are hames that are refined, no horns. I can send a picture. The hames fit the 23 inch collar. I have no idea what these things are worth, but will put a low enough price to be sure they are attractive. $50 each, hame pairs (one side) or collar. Plus shipping at cost. Two Freedom collars. I can measure. They are either horse or large horse size. With pads but not neckstraps. $75 each plus shipping at cost. Two Old Mac strap on shoes. They are a size 7 (maybe like a size 2 shoe). On the front they say "Old Macs, hoof suspension". I had them for trail emergency, tried them on and never used them. The new texture on the bottom is intact. Didn't have the emergency! Price, $50 for the pair plus $12.35 Priority Mail. Maybe this is the end Listers, thanks for your forbearance, helping me sell my horse stuff. Almost everything I have listed over the last couple of years has sold this way. Thanks. Dave Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Camptown Pair lines, Glory Bits, and collars/hames for sale
This message is from: David MCWethy <4nh...@gmail.com> I have a set of brown Beta pair lines to sell. These were scarcely used. I normally used 7/8" lines. Used, yes, but in very good condition. No wear at all to the billets that attach to the bits. Specs: 3/4 inch width, suitable to all but the smallest and largest hands. Stainless hardware. Half price of new, $45. Priority shipping $12.35 Glory Bits. Swivel cheek butterfly. I have two that are 6.25 and two that are 6.5 wide. All bits and curb straps are used but serviceable. $48 plus $8 shipping each. Two carriage collars, from either Coblenz or Sugar Creek. These are midway between fine carriage collars and work collars, I think the "buggy collar". I used them twice, so they are essentially new. The sizes are 23 inch. Also, I have four sets of stainless carriage hames, with attached harness, to buckle into a Camptown Harness in place of a breast collar. These are hames that are refined, no horns. I can send a picture. The hames fit the 23 inch collar. I have no idea what these things are worth, but will put a low enough price to be sure they are attractive. $50 each, hame pairs (one side) or collar. Plus shipping at cost. Two Freedom collars. I can measure. They are either horse or large horse size. With pads but not neckstraps. $75 each plus shipping at cost. Two Old Mac strap on shoes. They are a size 7 (maybe like a size 2 shoe). On the front they say "Old Macs, hoof suspension". I had them for trail emergency, tried them on and never used them. The new texture on the bottom is intact. Didn't have the emergency! Price, $50 for the pair plus $12.35 Priority Mail. Maybe this is the end Listers, thanks for your forbearance, helping me sell my horse stuff. Almost everything I have listed over the last couple of years has sold this way. Thanks. Dave Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Glory Bits
This message is from: Steve McIlree I don't have any bits for sale. That message was from Jen Frame . The original message was rejected by the List server, and somehow when I approved it for posting it ended up looking as if it came from me. If you are interested in the bits, please contact Jen. -- Steve McIlree Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Glory bits
This message is from: yvonne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message from Yvonne Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the Main event in Canada, A company called Ride and Drive Horse Supplies, (403)948-8715 . had a large variety of sizes of the glory bit, and loved to reccommend them and use them for driving. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 21 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Glory bits
This message is from: "Faeo, Victoria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, Jerry. This is an awesome summary about the purpose and use of a bit with respect to my question, and how the Glory bit fits in. I'll go to the archives and read more. Thanks! Vic and Einar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jerrell friz Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:01 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Glory bits This message is from: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Do you think this is just his limited training experience, or do you > think a Glory driving bit would be better since he is a Fjord? In > other words, how common and comfortable is the > Glory--this would depend on the rider/driver > bit? There are a ton of questions in the archives on glory bits. I like the Glory bit, and also the Mylar bit [in sweet iron] custom made, not the cheap SS Chinese made one. The Glory bit, is excellent to start a horse in, just use the top ring. The bottom ring makes it a curb type bit, which is good once your horse understands what the bit is for. AND, more importantly the rider/driver, understands. This brings up a question. What is a bit for? The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Glory bits
This message is from: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do you think this is just his limited training experience, or do you think a Glory driving bit would be better since he is a Fjord? In other words, how common and comfortable is the Glory--this would depend on the rider/driver bit? There are a ton of questions in the archives on glory bits. I like the Glory bit, and also the Mylar bit [in sweet iron] custom made, not the cheap SS Chinese made one. The Glory bit, is excellent to start a horse in, just use the top ring. The bottom ring makes it a curb type bit, which is good once your horse understands what the bit is for. AND, more importantly the rider/driver, understands. This brings up a question. What is a bit for? I am beginning to think that most riders/drivers think it is to stop with, and, or, to turn with, 100 percent of the time. a device that uses force and pain. In my opinion, the bit is a tool to start a turn, or ask for a stop, strictly, communications. [maybe 5 percent of the turn,or stop]I once had a very well known trainer tell me that she would break my horses jaw if he bolted. It took it as a joke at the time. A good starting bit would be a Mullen mouth like the Glory, or Mylar. Then, only after horse and rider/driver, know what a bit is for, go on to a curb bit. A curb bit should give you more collection, and a lighter rein. [ I will not let a novice rider/driver, work with any of my horses in a curb bit.] [ Glory bit on bottom ring] It makes no difference if your horse is a Fjord, or some other breed, the bit is used the same way, it is a tool to initiate a stop, or a turn, and,or to give a half halt with. Now, it might take several light reminders during the turn, on either rein. The rest [ about 95 percent] all comes from your legs, body, whip,seat, head,hands, arms, etc.. In summery, the bit is not a magical device. A thousand dollar bit will not automatically train your horse, there are not shortcuts. If your goal is to become a good rider/driver, then you MUST understand how a bit used. If you seek a good relationship with your horse, to be a good leader, pain will not work. You should be able to rein your horse with a piece of yarn. Keep in mind everyone has an opinion. Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca. I am finding that Fjords are very easy to get collected, or , as some would say gathered-up, then you don't have to deal with the dressage queens. For your security this Message has been checked for Viruses as a courtesy of Com-Pair Services! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Glory bits
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do you think this is just his limited training experience, or do you think a Glory driving bit would be better since he is a Fjord? In other words, how common and comfortable is the Glory bit? I think a bit is about as personal as any piece of equiptment you use on a horse. Every horse is different. I've had great luck with the Glory - and yet some horses - not. It's very difficult to advise on any bit in particular- without personally working with the horse - you said you had some professional training done on your horse - maybe go back to that trainer and ask why he used a Mylar, - or find out what bit he did use on the horse. Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: glory bits
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Try Driving Essentials http://www.drivingessentials.com/glory.htm (Don't confuse with Carriage Driving Essentials) and Country carriages http://www.countrycarriagesusa.com/bitswhipspads.html If you can't find a Glory bit, try the Myler driving bits (I use a Myler butterfly with low wide port #15 mouthpiece) Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still cold with -35 degrees , but we are Sending this cold air down to the Midwest! Enjoy! Does anyone know where to buy Glory bits? I want to buy another and the Glory phone number I have doesn't work anymore.I tried Carriage Driving Essentials and they don't have Glory bits.I can't seem to find a place to order them through the internet. Thanks,Ellen The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
glory bits
This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anyone know where to buy Glory bits? I want to buy another and the Glory phone number I have doesn't work anymore.I tried Carriage Driving Essentials and they don't have Glory bits.I can't seem to find a place to order them through the internet. Thanks,Ellen The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Pasture for Fjords and Glory Bits, a bit long
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One thing about the Glory bits for Fjords is that you have to make sure they are big enough..so the upper branch of the cheek piece isn't poking into their face. I had a 6" Glory Liverpool on Bjorken and it poked into his cheekbones. That is enough to make any horse dislike it! The Glory butterfly with the loose cheeks had the problem of pinching his fat lips if it was too small. With the right size they are great! However Bjorken is much lighter in the Myler. I have gone to a Myler elbow bit for big Bjorken, it has the low port mouthpiece and he goes great in that. Even more expensive than the Glory bits, tho at $120. Jean in still warm Fairbanks, Alaska, another 80 degree day! Light all night now! >I purchased the very expensive ($85) glory bit, and Elph hated it. It got >to the point where he was so vehement about not wanting it in his mouth >that I finally "got it" (okay, okay, so you hate this bit!!! I'll get >something else!!!) I had an opportunity to attend a driving clinic given >by Larry Poulin and asked him about it, and he said he did not like glorys >for fjords because he felt they were too heavy and that in his experience >Fjords tended to lean on the bit enough as it is. However, I know lots of >folks love them. I use a french link snaffle and he goes very well in >that. I did just buy a new one that has more of the "driving" look to it >(rough cheek and snaffle options), but hate the chain it came with. Does >anyone know where I can purchase a flat leather chin strap for it?
Re: Pasture for Fjords and Glory Bits, a bit long
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/16/2005 9:44:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This winter he was even segregated for the hay feedings (because while her horses would stop eating after a while, he wouldn't be done until every bit of hay was gone, and he would get fat through the winter on that). *** Hi Tish- All Fjord owners can sympathize ;-) I am in the unique situation of having all my horses in one small pasture together. I recently asked the guy who feeds to give less hay, because this is exactly what was happening. The non-Fjords would eat their fill and walk away, then the Fjords would vacuum up every last straw! / )_~ /L/L Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA www.Brigid.Clickryder.com www.MillwoodRanch.com
Pasture for Fjords and Glory Bits, a bit long
This message is from: "Pasqual, Patricia A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have now owned Elph for 7 years, and while it makes me a little sad that he can only be hand grazed as a reward for a nice training session, that is just the way it is. When I moved him this spring to a boarding situation with an indoor arena, it was the number one condition: he had to have a paddock or pasture that had nothing in it for him to graze on. He is on a complete feed, and gets a fairly poor quality grass hay for fiber, some hoof supplements, and that is it. He has actually probably never been at a better weight and level of fitness. I have also been giving him pretty intensive workouts this spring on a consistent basis, and he has really stepped up to the challenge, so he has plenty of energy to handle it. One of the reasons I had to move him was because it was impossible to convince the person I was boarding with that he could not be on pasture, even one that was in as poor a shape as hers. I would consider some of her horses very overweight (the vet concurs). It just doesn't seem possible to combat the grazing, even a half a day, with workouts. Maybe if he was logging, or plowing, or something like that, but the one to two hours of work five days a week just doesn't begin to take off the fat. This winter he was even segregated for the hay feedings (because while her horses would stop eating after a while, he wouldn't be done until every bit of hay was gone, and he would get fat through the winter on that). We used the grazing muzzles for several seasons, the Best Friend worked better than the cheaper model. They only ever lasted one season, however, before wearing through. Plus, to adjust it so that it wouldn't come off meant that he was wearing his skin through in different rub spots, not very pretty at the shows. So he spends a few hours a day by himself while the others are on pasture, but he does gets a bit of hay to get him through the day. I purchased the very expensive ($85) glory bit, and Elph hated it. It got to the point where he was so vehement about not wanting it in his mouth that I finally "got it" (okay, okay, so you hate this bit!!! I'll get something else!!!) I had an opportunity to attend a driving clinic given by Larry Poulin and asked him about it, and he said he did not like glorys for fjords because he felt they were too heavy and that in his experience Fjords tended to lean on the bit enough as it is. However, I know lots of folks love them. I use a french link snaffle and he goes very well in that. I did just buy a new one that has more of the "driving" look to it (rough cheek and snaffle options), but hate the chain it came with. Does anyone know where I can purchase a flat leather chin strap for it? Finally, we are signed up for the Skunk River Driving Trial in Ames, IA the weekend after next, and I am excited to see how he does there. I am hoping that the progress I think we have made since April shows up in the dressage scores and on the marathon. Tish and Elph in Minneapolis
about Glory bits
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Read about the patented mouthpiece of the Glory bits: http://www.glorybits.com/about.htm My Fjords really go well in them Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska where it is really WARM! but no smoke! (yet)
Re: Glory bits and the change in weather
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When the weather got cold here (several weeks ago it WAS cold!) the water in the insulated water tank did not freeze, but was icey cold. Water consumption dropped to about half of what they usually drink. I put in the tank heater and water consumption immediately doubled!. It really makes a difference! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, with "Indian summer", 70 degrees on the 1st of October! (Rubbin' it in, LOL) >As the weather changes make sure your horses get water >that they want will drink as we go into the colder >temps. I was very suprised to have a colt weanling >refuse the first cold water of the season as he was >confused 2 years ago, that could lead to problems. I >now have 2 buckets for a weanling stall and monitor >them carefully. Keep an eagle eye on newcomers and >youngsters asthe season progresses! > >Marsha in VA where the temps are really falling this >week, need to get those heated buckets out soon. >The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search >http://shopping.yahoo.com > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Glory bits and the change in weather
This message is from: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ref the bit discussion. Looks like a lot of folks will be going out to get G. bits, which is great, I swear they are the BEST Fjord driving bits and some folks swear by them for riding. I have some information for you all, if you want to get further, I used butterflys as a single and just naturally started to use them with my pair. Muffy Seaton (reknowned driving person) here said yes, the bit is fine, but the butterfly cheeks are not good for a pair, the inner lines tend to pull the cheeks out of alignment, she suggested the liverpool cheek butterflys for the pair. I did that, I personnally don't like liverpools, but the bit cheeks don't pull out and these liverpools are nicely made. More trivia!! Change in weather, notice the colic cases coming up? As the weather changes make sure your horses get water that they want will drink as we go into the colder temps. I was very suprised to have a colt weanling refuse the first cold water of the season as he was confused 2 years ago, that could lead to problems. I now have 2 buckets for a weanling stall and monitor them carefully. Keep an eagle eye on newcomers and youngsters asthe season progresses! Marsha in VA where the temps are really falling this week, need to get those heated buckets out soon. The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Glory bits
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just contacted Sharon and Ray Johnson at Glory Metal Works (603) 744-5467 and ordered some Glory Butterfly riding and driving bits. They have a new web site, but it is still under construction at: http://www.glorybits.com/ Thanks to all for all the information regarding bits. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus 2003. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3158
Re: glory bits for sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Julie The Glory bits arrived last week as I was leaving to go out of town for a few days, home now and check will go out today. Many Thanks. Sue Sue Clark-Sorger Crown Oak Fjords 5 Marks Road Sandia Park NM
Glory bits
This message is from: "Julie Will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wow! What a response! The bits sold immediately...sorry to disappoint everyone! Julie
glory bits for sale
This message is from: "Julie Will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello listers ~ I have two glory bits for sale. They just didn't suit the horse I bought them for. One is the butterfly driving bit, the other the riding style bit. Both are 5". They are priced at $35 each plus shipping...a real bargain! email me privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julie, at Old Hickory Farm.
RE: Glory Bits, new foal, and....
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ray Johnson is the name of the Glory bit guy! heard he drives Morgans, developed the bit because the morgans have a low pallet and big tongue. He told me he uses a 5 3/4" on his morgans.. so Fjords require at least that size. Jean in Fairbanks alaska, -15 F...but at least my Fjords are clean and fluffy rather than mudballs! >Glory Bits can be reached at 1-603-744-5467 fax and office. >(1-603-455-2064 might be cell #). He is redoing website, spoke to him and >ordered one in December and I wish I could remember his name! Very >interesting to speak with...ask him why/how he developed the bit >Anyone else sick of mud? We no longer have Fjordshave been replaced by >dark brown slimey things...ey, goooey. > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Glory Bits, new foal, and....
This message is from: "Foxfire Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Glory Bits can be reached at 1-603-744-5467 fax and office. (1-603-455-2064 might be cell #). He is redoing website, spoke to him and ordered one in December and I wish I could remember his name! Very interesting to speak with...ask him why/how he developed the bit. He just got married and moved, too, so I don't know if address I have is still good. Bailey's: Haven't been online since you posted re:new foal. Congratulations, must go look! Am looking forward to Galena and finally meeting all those folks we just read about! Anyone else sick of mud? We no longer have Fjordshave been replaced by dark brown slimey things...ey, goooey. Betsy, in Michigan where it was 50 something and rainy all day yesterday, and today is supposed to freeze and snow. Come on, Spring! > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 04:12:44 -0800 (PST) > From: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: GLory bits > > This message is from: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Anyone have the web site of the guy who makes the > Glory bits? Old site I had is gone now. Thanks > Marsha
Re: GLory bits
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If someone needs a Glory it, I have one available for sale. 'Liverpool' style w/ 2 rein slots (not 3). It is 5 1/4" wide, and comes w/ the rolled leather curb strap. Brand new - just too small for my beasties mouth. $60. (incl. shipping the USA) Please reply privately. Thanks. kmac Original Message Follows From: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: Email list reply Subject: GLory bits Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 04:12:44 -0800 (PST) This message is from: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone have the web site of the guy who makes the Glory bits? Old site I had is gone now. Thanks Marsha Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
GLory bits
This message is from: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone have the web site of the guy who makes the Glory bits? Old site I had is gone now. Thanks Marsha Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
Re: Glory Bits
This message is from: Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SUSAN L GIARGIARI wrote: > > This message is from: "SUSAN L GIARGIARI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello List, > To Janne, so sorry to hear about your loss and hope that Heidi is > well on the mend now. It is a fear that touches your inner consciousness at > the beginning of every foaling season. Know that you are in all out thoughts > and prayers. > >To people inquiring about the Glory Bit, I was able to purchase one > from a place in PA from the Amish, the sides do not slide, they are of a > very good quality with the joint at the check that does not pinch. The one I > bought by mail, had to measure when we got home, was $39 plus shipping. I > have never seen one in any tack shop on the east coast for less than $70. > Let me know if you need to have the info and I will post it to the list. We Thank you for the money saving on the glory bit. I am very interested in the better price. Can you post the information? Carol M. WI > are leaving for PA Thursday nite, Richard's practice drive for the GA trip! > Amish Auction we attend every year. Lots of neat stuff! > To Philis A., we just had a Forest Fire in Pelham, NH today that burnt > 10 acres. It was a backyard burn that rekindled. Our snow cover is almost > gone and firefighters were surprised to have such a fire so soon in the > season. > We have been having up in the 50's and that's sweater weather! Richard > is doing chores again, Yay! and able to help me with two 4 yr. old > geldings we have in for training in draft and driving. There actually are > dry spots here, so you know the mud season won't be bad, if we don't get > more snow. > Enjoy the spring, if it has arrived even for only a little while! Sue g.
Re: Glory Bits
This message is from: "SUSAN L GIARGIARI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello List, To Janne, so sorry to hear about your loss and hope that Heidi is well on the mend now. It is a fear that touches your inner consciousness at the beginning of every foaling season. Know that you are in all out thoughts and prayers. To people inquiring about the Glory Bit, I was able to purchase one from a place in PA from the Amish, the sides do not slide, they are of a very good quality with the joint at the check that does not pinch. The one I bought by mail, had to measure when we got home, was $39 plus shipping. I have never seen one in any tack shop on the east coast for less than $70. Let me know if you need to have the info and I will post it to the list. We are leaving for PA Thursday nite, Richard's practice drive for the GA trip! Amish Auction we attend every year. Lots of neat stuff! To Philis A., we just had a Forest Fire in Pelham, NH today that burnt 10 acres. It was a backyard burn that rekindled. Our snow cover is almost gone and firefighters were surprised to have such a fire so soon in the season. We have been having up in the 50's and that's sweater weather! Richard is doing chores again, Yay! and able to help me with two 4 yr. old geldings we have in for training in draft and driving. There actually are dry spots here, so you know the mud season won't be bad, if we don't get more snow. Enjoy the spring, if it has arrived even for only a little while! Sue g.
GLORY BITS
This message is from: "Sarah Vogeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I thought the list might find this clip interesting... <<>> _ Sarah Vogeley New Forest Farm Charlottesville, VA
Re: Glory Bits & Price
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "SUSAN L GIARGIARI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The 3rd ring was cut off by Dick,welder by trade, and filed down. He >had cut of the bottoms of some of the liverpools , but sometimes you >need to drop down a hole to get the extra leverage? or just >confidence , depending on the situation you are in. Gee, so many inyeresting things discussed tonite! Susan, I too have cut off the bottom hole, or "dead mans loop", as I was told ages ago in a drving clinic w/ Pat James Lewis. If we even ever thought of putting the rein thru that loop,we shouldn't be driving at all. Period. Start back at ground zero. When I was a learner TD at an ADS event a few years back, I was monitoring the pre-marathon safety check. We had two drivers come thru with some really ghastly set-ups. One lady driving a fjord, had her reins on the 3rd loop of her liverpool and curb chain so tight that I don't think we could have slid a credit card under it! The other entry, driving a Morgan, was using a butterfly on the 3rd slot. Both drivers were asked to either change the rein/curb settings, or retire. Well, they complied, and survived - barely. I do like the butterfly bit, but on more delicate headed horses, I think even the 2 loop looks a little heavy. Really like mullen mouthed driving bits allot. Kimberwickes are OK, and some even have a true mullen mouth, but most are low-ported. Yes, I had my go-round with my Trakehner gelding re. getting his tongue over the bit! pretty embarassing to have to get out not once, but twice during your dressage test to fix the problem! Learned my lesson - in front of George Bowman, no less... __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Glory Bits & Price
This message is from: "SUSAN L GIARGIARI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello List! Just a quick note, promise! You can get a butterfly bit from Smuckers in PA for only $37 plus shipping! Really! I got 5 of them for our 3 and 4 abreast that we do when we do our haying or wagon rides. We have tried to use snaffle bits but they pull sideways out of their mouths, without much pressure on the reins and the mares always have their mouths going. When we were driving them with a liverpool driving bit, they were quiet in the mouth. Only problem is the head rubbing and the "checking out my neighbor syndrome", even thought they have been in the pasture together for the last 7 years!! The shank on the liverpool would catch on some inevitable part of the other's bridle, rein, harness or whatever. I know you can use some kind of a "stick" between the horses heads, but I don't like them. The butterfly bits have large rounded rings in a row, so anything it catches on usually will slide right off. The ones I got had 3 rounded rings together on the side. Now remember, these are not the skinny rings in a row found on the liverpool pool bits. Some liverpool bits have a rectangle shank with oblong slots, some have rounded thin ovals in a row.The 3rd ring was cut off by Dick, welder by trade, and filed down. He had cut of the bottoms of some of the liverpools , but sometimes you need to drop down a hole to get the extra leverage? or just confidence , depending on the situation you are in. Oh Well! So much for a quick note! Hope this helps! Sue G.
Glory bits and Waggoner's address
This message is from: "Tish Pasqual" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Glory bit was raved about by many as a great bit for driving, if you want to read the full deal on it check out this website (it is TrotOn, "home" to the CD-L, Carriage Driving List http://listserv.dartmouth.edu/Archives/cd-l.html) ; you can search the archives by typing in Glory bit. In fact, if you want a full running discussion of "tongue over bit", just type that in. Some of the people on this list are very high-powered driving folks, and reading the archives is a great way to get all kinds of driving information. The cost of the Glory was $80 shipped, and it is really a beautiful thing - surprisingly big, and it looks cast. The high port really helps with the tongue over the bit - something I have seen a surprising number of times, not a good thing. The maker was very familiar with this problem and he said that some breeds just have thick tongues and it is uncomfortable for them and they will work to free their tongues. If you just want to talk to the maker about them or order one, his phone and address are Ray Johnson Glory Metal Works RFD 1 Box 200 Plymouth, NH 03264 USA 603-536-2665 or fax 603-726-3766. He has made quite a few of them for Fjords. When I say Elph is going well in it, I mean he mouths the bit, seems content to hold it in his mouth, I can be extremely soft with my hands and he responds to me, and, he has never put his tongue over it! The Waggoner's address is http://www.minihorses.com/Text/wagoner.html. Dale is who I worked with and the cart was shipped very promptly. Good luck! Tish and Elphie in Minneapolis
Re: Glory bits
This message is from: "Sarah Vogeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean; The Glory Butterfly us a beautiful bit! I am curious to know, is it a dressage federation approved bit? It might be just the ticket for my Morgan mare when I ride her English! Thank you for the informative segment on Glory bits! Sarah Vogeley New Forest Farm Charlottesville, Virginia -- >From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Glory bits >Date: Tue, Oct 19, 1999, 11:13 AM > > The cost of the Glory bits, both the Butterfly or the Glory Liverpool, is > $75 plus $5 shipping when ordered from Ray. They are worth it. I use the > Glory butterfly for riding as well a driving, often ride with two reins > (snaffle and curb) and even used it at a Dressage clinic.
Glory bits
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Sarah, Check out the pictures of the Glory bits at the Carriage house site. http://thecarriagehouse.com/Glorybits.jpg You can order them from them also. I would get at least a 5 1/2", perhaps a 5 3/4" size so the top of the cheek pieces will clear the face. I use a 6" for the "boys". 5 3/4" for the "girls" with their smaller heads. I have Glory bits for all my Fjords, have tried other bits, snaffles, etc,( I have quite a collection) but always go back to the Glory bit. The mouthpiece of the Glory bit (both the butterfly and the Glory Liverpool) is angled so the curved mouthpiece is about 45 degrees angle to the shank, and gives a "pre-signal" or release when the reins are contacted, before it puts pressure on the tongue. The mouthpiece is made of a copper and brass alloy that the horses really like. The slot for the curbstrap is positioned so that it cannot possibly pinch the lip. It was developed by Ray Johnson who has the Glory Metal works. You can also order direct from him. He will take back a bit that doesn't fit or for any reason. (I have his phone Number somewhere and will send it to you when I find it) The cost of the Glory bits, both the Butterfly or the Glory Liverpool, is $75 plus $5 shipping when ordered from Ray. They are worth it. I use the Glory butterfly for riding as well a driving, often ride with two reins (snaffle and curb) and even used it at a Dressage clinic. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where we have had enough snow that the horse were playing running and bucking today with the good footing and have gotten clean! THIS is why I like Fairbanks in the winter! Also, approximately what is the cost for a Glory bit (and >where do you get one?) and what is working so well about it? > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
