Re: Tripping in Fjord horses
This message is from: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com Marie, My Andy ( 8yr. old ) tripped badly when Chris Lombard had him in a trot last summer...I thought he was going down..! I have a farrier whose been with me for 12 yrs...He's been a farrier for many yrsChris says it's because even though I have a large training ring it's because the horse is basically going in a circle...but I've also seen my girlfriends qhorse who was 16 yrs...almost fall in the riding ringI asked Chris who thinks it's because horses can't see immediately in front of them... This is a very interesting topic, one I will most definitely read closely. Susan From: Marie countrydreamingspi...@yahoo.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 8:39 PM Subject: Tripping in Fjord horses This message is from: Marie countrydreamingspi...@yahoo.com Hi all Has anyone here had a problem with their horses tripping or stumbling? My gelding Sam occasionally stumbles when being ridden and when being worked in hand. It is scary and frustrating. He seems to trip mostly at the walk, but once in a while at the trot. I have been trimming his hooves.myself for the past two years, but am planning on having a professional out to evaluate his hoof balance. I also plan on working on his overall strength and fitness, as I believe that is probably playing a role on the tripping. I would greatly appreciate any input and to hear if anyone else has dealt with this problem on any of their horses, as well as solutions they found. Thank you Marie (and Samson) from Long Island Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Important Fjord Horse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Tripping in Fjord horses
This message is from: Starfire Farm starfiref...@usa.net Tripping can be the result of a number of things: The rider's balance over the horse's front legs; A lazy horse; An inattentive horse; A tense horse; A horse that has not been warmed up well enough; A horse lacking hindquarter/loin strength; A horse that is not supple; A horse not ridden/driven in proper balance; A horse falling through the inside shoulder on a circle; Incorrect farrier work; An orthopedic condition that requires veterinary diagnosis/attention. These could be in combination, or the result of only one condition, but it happens. Tripping in a horse that does not do this normally can indicate arthritic changes, onset of navicular disease or just sore feet. I currently have a Fjord in training that would habitually trip at the beginning of a warm-up session. The training goal for this horse is to improve his collection in dressage, eventually teaching him piaffe, passage and all of the other goodies that go along with that here. He could be a bit tense (just a little) until he warmed up. He was also used to carrying his rider over his left shoulder (the position that was the rider's habit), therefore he would tense his left shoulder/back to try to ease the discomfort (essentially protect himself from pain.) This horse would actually look like he was lame when trotting, but he was just trying to cope with his out-of-balance rider, which eventually turned into a pattern of uneven/unlevel trot steps. Working through collected exercises, both in-hand and under saddle, has helped this horse develop strength and balance that he did not have previously. In addition, my farrier and I have been problem solving his front limb movement and ended up setting his shoes back a bit (not a natural trim, but has the same effect without shaving away and weakening the hoof wall, which is what happens in this neck of the woods) which seems to have helped. Long warm-up sessions and frequent breaks during his work sessions have also helped. He is much stronger in his hindquarters (like...Buns of Steel!) and is now a blast to ride in both collection, medium and working towards extended gaits. Hope this helps. Beth On 2/6/2012 6:39 PM, Marie wrote: This message is from: Mariecountrydreamingspi...@yahoo.com Hi all Has anyone here had a problem with their horses tripping or stumbling? My gelding Sam occasionally stumbles when being ridden and when being worked in hand. It is scary and frustrating. He seems to trip mostly at the walk, but once in a while at the trot. I have been trimming his hooves.myself for the past two years, but am planning on having a professional out to evaluate his hoof balance. I also plan on working on his overall strength and fitness, as I believe that is probably playing a role on the tripping. I would greatly appreciate any input and to hear if anyone else has dealt with this problem on any of their horses, as well as solutions they found. Thank you Marie (and Samsun) from Long Island Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l -- Beth Beymer and Sandy North Starfire Farm, LLC www.starfirefarm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: tripping
This message is from: Starfire Farm starfiref...@usa.net It seems to me that the rider putting extra weight on their horses forehand can and would be an issue, but at the point of being lame? If this is in response to my earlier post, please let me clarify. The horse was NOT clinically lame, however, the crookedness in the rider's position was creating discomfort in the horse's shoulder (only one shoulder, the one the rider was putting more pressure on) which made the horse favor that shoulder in order to avoid discomfort, which became a habit (ask your vet, sometime horses that experience prolonged lameness have to be encouraged to use the affected limb because they expect to feel pain, so still favor the limb.) I forgot to mention that the rider's crooked position also caused the horse to travel crooked, exacerbating the problem. So, one could consider it a rein lameness however, I believe rein lameness can be a misnomer, not caused by the reins only, but also caused by a crooked, out of balance rider (hence rein imbalance). But might be the vet might find some issues with the backend, not even the front end? Yes, this can be true. Sometimes what might seem to present as a front lameness problem is actually a hind lameness problem. I do think its true, no strength or muscle in the butt will surely make a horse heavier on the forehand, but trippy? I’d worry if mine didn’t have muscle in their butts. Especially fjords. This Fjord had plenty of muscle in the hindquarters. It's even nicer now! ;-) When I see a horse, especially a Fjord, with a lack of muscling in the hindquarter and the hind limbs (stifle, gaskin, etc.) It is a red flag to me that something is not right with the horse. My husband had a quarterhorse. He was afraid to let go of this horses mouth, especially at the canter. We could see him lift the horse with each canter stride. If he dropped contact, the horse would fall on his face. I have re-trained warmbloods that were ridden with the hold-'em, drive 'em mentality that had started the horses rearing with their riders (a couple of our trainers out here are famous for that!) One horse was so used to being held up that when I let the reins go to the buckle, he fell to his knees and I thought o, here it comes! but he manged not to somersault and learned to balance himself. Rest assured, my weight was NOT on his forehand when that happened! My main point and a major focus with my students is correct position and balance of the rider to not hinder the horse's balance and way of going. Once they get that, then I help them learn how to enhance the horse's way of going with their balance and position. It can be a long journey, but one well worth taking. Beth -- Beth Beymer and Sandy North Starfire Farm, LLC www.starfirefarm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Tripping in Fjord horses
This message is from: Bonnie Morris morrisshado...@aol.com Hello Marie and Samsun Yes I have seen this issue come up in a few different Fjords that I have trained. The best thing to do is have a well respected farrier evaluated the situation. Your vet may have a good recommendation.Without seeing the horse I can only guess, but I can tell you about some of the other Fjords that have had this issue.One had not been trimmed correctly in a long time and the hoof angles were very off.Another one hit toe first and was very scary. This one's toe had to be taken way back and a rolled shoe put on. It solved the problem, but had to be done regularly to keep from tripping, another one had founder issues that could not be totally helped.And some times they need just need work over poles to get them to pick up their feet and learn how to balance themselves.For what ever reason I have seen this issue come up more in the Fjords than other breeds that I have worked with. Good luck with Samsun Hopefully this issue will be something simple! Bonnie Morris Western WA Windy, but sunny:) -Original Message- From: Marie countrydreamingspi...@yahoo.com To: fjordhorse fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Mon, Feb 6, 2012 5:40 pm Subject: Tripping in Fjord horses This message is from: Marie countrydreamingspi...@yahoo.com i all as anyone here had a problem with their horses tripping or stumbling? y gelding Sam occasionally stumbles when being ridden and when being worked in and. t is scary and frustrating. He seems to trip mostly at the walk, but once in a hile at the trot. have been trimming his hooves.myself for the past two years, but am planning n having a professional out to evaluate his hoof balance. also plan on working on his overall strength and fitness, as I believe that is robably playing a role on the tripping. would greatly appreciate any input and to hear if anyone else has dealt with his problem on any of their horses, as well as solutions they found. hank you arie (and Samsun) from Long Island ent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Important FjordHorse List Links: ubscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e H-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw H-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Tripping klutz
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our yearling gelding is not a tripper, but he sure doesn't have any idea where things are in relation to his body. He bumps into things because he doesn't know where is boundaries are, he doesn't know that you don't bump into people and he is not very graceful turning around in tight spaces. The 7 year old mare is quite adept at getting around without bumping into things because she knows the rules. the yearling will get it someday.
Re: Tripping klutz
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/30/00 3:40:57 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: She is most beautiful all decked out in her English saddle and bridle, but just is a clod. Sometimes a really good trim from a GOOD farrier fixes that. Gail
Re: Tripping
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In response to the tripping issueThere is a huge difference between my two Fjord geldings and tripping. The one that does trip at both the canter and trot has conformational issues that have been pointed out by both my vet and farrier. They are angle of shoulder, straight pasterns, and neck set. Playing around with the shoeing helped a little but the possibility of a trip is always there. My horse that trips is not drafty in build, but he is from one of the more draft lines. The other gelding from a different lineage, never trips and is one of the more surefooted horses I have ever ridden through any kind of footing. Perhaps, this issue could be made part of the evaluation process because I think tripping and stumbling does exist in quite a number of Fjords and it is a big negative because of the danger of a fall. It is not always evident when the horse is in pasture or on the lounge line. It becomes more evident when the horse is asked to work and the added weight and balance of the rider can affect this type of horse. I know many people have responded that their Fjords have never tripped and I am sure that is true, just as sure as there are many people that have Fjords that trip. I guess it's something that should be checked out prior to a purchase. I wish I was aware of it at the time. Elaine Olsen
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This message is from: Sarah Vogeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting! I wouldn't think of that myself! I would love to see an online photo of your driving Fjord if you have one. Thanks for sharing your experience. _ Sarah Vogeley New Forest Farm Charlottesville, VA -- From: John and Martie Bolinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Tripping Date: Tue, Jan 11, 2000, 9:31 AM kept working him slowly until he refound his balance without leaning on the check.I never realized he was using his check to balance himself!
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This message is from: John and Martie Bolinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] RE tripping - I noticed that Kilar (not a tripper when I bought him and first started driving) developed an uneven way of going and tripped quite a bit when I first started driving without his side check. I worried quite a bit that something was wrong with him, but at the urging of my trainer, kept working him slowly until he refound his balance without leaning on the check. Once again he is doing great in harness. Have not ridden since the tripping started - not because of the tripping, just because of the time factor. If I have some time I'd rather drive. I never realized he was using his check to balance himself! And that after spending $$$ to have his feet retrimmed and everything. Martie and Kilar in MD Sarah Vogeley wrote: This message is from: Sarah Vogeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meredith; Yes, I would tend to agree that conformational tendancy to trip is a bad thing to breeding into any horse used for any purpose. I will pay particular attention to this when I look for my first Fjord for driving! Thanks, _ Sarah Vogeley New Forest Farm Charlottesville, VA
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pat, my boy who tripped had the loveliest trot imaginable. Leg yields, on the bit etc. I could sit-trot him all day. When he would canter it was rocking chair, so not all are downhill. I think narrow chests have a bit to do with it and probably not anyone thing. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not a breeder yet, but there is only one thing I know of that could cause widespread co-ordination problems within a breed that is reknown worldwide for nimbleness and good movement - bad breeders. I totally agree..the one mare that seemed to have a major tripping problem for me was built very heavy on the front end, her shoulder was short and steep and she had very short pasterns with no anglestanding still she leaned forward. Obviously her stride was short and choppy, uncomfortable to ride. I did not choose this mare, she was not kept as a broodmare, in my opinion she, as they say in the dog world..pet quality. She was sweet, calm and trusting..if spaying wasn't so expensive, she would have been,when she drove she did not trip as much. I think the breast plate kept her up : ) Pat
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This message is from: Sarah Vogeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meredith; Yes, I would tend to agree that conformational tendancy to trip is a bad thing to breeding into any horse used for any purpose. I will pay particular attention to this when I look for my first Fjord for driving! Thanks, _ Sarah Vogeley New Forest Farm Charlottesville, VA
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This message is from: Meredith Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Sarah Vogeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Though now that I am hearing other peoples' observations of other Fjords with similar tripping episodes, I am curious to know why this is? Since I have little direct contact with this breed, and I am trying to soak up as much information as possible, I would really like to hear opinions from breeders on this list. I am not a breeder yet, but there is only one thing I know of that could cause widespread co-ordination problems within a breed that is reknown worldwide for nimbleness and good movement - bad breeders. Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA Dorina NFR Aagot
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This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sarah Vogeley wrote: I must admit, all the talk about Fjords tripping has me worried. Hi Sarah: I've never experienced tripping with any of my Fjords. Lori A.
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Sarah- My Fjord Tommes, a graceful riding type, had a terrible problem with tripping. He also kicked himself in the hooves. I thought it would never end. Then I had his shoes pulled for the winter, and he hasn't stumbled since. He moves better than ever, is more surefooted and confident. Barefoot for my boys from now on! Brigid in CA
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sarah re tripping fjords. My previous fjord fell on several occasions always on a circle and relaxed. I was not on him but the young people who were were not injured, luckily. My ferrier pointed out the narrow chest or distance between the knees and he felt that one knee was coming up behind the other and knocking it out. Others who had seen him fall all felt he was asleep and down on the fore. When I had him trimmed with a wild horse trim, squaring the front toes, he never tripped with me but did on one occasion when he was being ridden by a rider who had him all strung out. I rode him on the bit and under himself and we were always working on something so he was paying attention. Jean I never saw him trip when he was free in the pasture. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: tripping
This message is from: Laurie Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 7:29 AM Subject: Re: tripping This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] My horse also trips more often when he has shoes on. Guess we need to try filing the edges of the shoes to round them off. We'll try that next summer. Save yourself some work Mary. You can get shoes that are already rounded. I use them on my QH all the time. Laurie, in NW Washington
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This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] A few questions on tripping: Where are these young trippers being worked? On the flat, in a round pen, an arena? Ours were worked in all three situations. The footing in the round pen and arena was sand. Of course, the tripping was/is the most noticeable in the round pen because of the stress it puts on legs and joints. Outside the footing is anything from the beach to a mountain trail. Our horses are raised in pens/paddocks with very uneven footing and lots of mud in the winter, so they are not stall babies. As they get older the tripping seems to be caused by inattention in most cases. My horse also trips more often when he has shoes on. Guess we need to try filing the edges of the shoes to round them off. We'll try that next summer. Also, at what elevation are the trainers attempting to keep their heads? At a comfortable elelvation for the horse's conformation. Depends on how the horse's neck comes out of his chest and what kind of throatlatch he has. In all cases the nose is NOT dragging on the ground a la western pleasure, nor is it overflexed. We have even found that the bigger horse travels best with his nose slightly out at the canter - as if he were balancing himself with his nose. And if they're not use to Fjords, are they taking into consideration the different muscle conformation of the Fjord? The trainer we used spent a lot of time thinking about how he could tailor his Quarter Horse training program/methods to fit the different physical and mental requirements of the Fjords. Quarter Horses are react now horses, where Fjords are thinkers. And, yes, Fjords are built much different than QHs, except at the very early ages when the muscle structure can be quite similar. The differnce seems to come more in the mind bent - some lines of QHs are bred for reining, some for cow work, etc., and Fjords are not. Having watched QHs of different breedings I now see how this is definitely true. Fjords, on the other hand, need time to digest the new ideas. They CAN do the work asked of them, they just learn it a little differently. Imagine how a QH bred specifically for reining, say, would react to a heavy harness and plow. It would probably take some mental and emotional adjustment on his part. A smart trainer - one who truly has the benefit of the horse in mind - figures this out and tailors his program to the individual horse. Of course, not all horses within a specific breed are the same either, so a good trainer is constantly listening to what the horse is telling him. Boy, the stories some horses tell on their previous/current owners or trainers! If you take your horse to a trainer, expect the horse to tell on you - both good and bad! Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: tripping
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/21/99 7:22:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is a grass shoe? A grass shoe os a shoe that is thinner at the toe. It makes the break over faster when the horse moves. Normal shoes are thick and have a little extra in the front. This slows the break over and adds a little extra in the toe that the horse doesn't expect. Thus the horse may trip if he shuffles in front.
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is a grass shoe? Studs? Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Baldur trips all the time. In fact he went down so badly with a student that he stepped on her hand. I had the farrier put grass shoes on him and roll his toes. These two things seem to have solved the problem for right now. When clients get concerned I tell them it's b/c his short legs are trying to keep up with his big body. He is very front heavy and has a huge neck...so maybe that's part of it. But as I said, the feet adjustments as well as him being fit as a fiddle right now seem to have solved his problems. Kate
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This message is from: Debby Stai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since I'm new to Fjords I have to ask about the different muscle conformation of the Fjord. Could you be more specific so I'll know more of what I'm dealing with. I really prefer to give my horses the benefit of the doubt when something is not going right but it sure helps to know more about the way a Fjord is built and how they move. Thanks. Debby Larson wrote: This message is from: Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] A few questions on tripping: Where are these young trippers being worked? On the flat, in a round pen, an arena? Also, at what elevation are the trainers attempting to keep their heads? And if they're not use to Fjords, are they taking into consideration the different muscle conformation of the Fjord? Just a few things to take into consideration, though you probably already have. Josie
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good luck Casey but they never grow out of this tripping unless toes trimmed and you keep them awake!! Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
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This message is from: Mike and Casey Rogillio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, Jean, I was on the list at the time the long toes, etc., were being discussed. As a matter of fact, that was the first thing that flashed thru my mind! Then I discounted it for several reasons. 1. The farrier had just been out, and we'd decided to not trim Tyr since he's not shod and I knew he'd be getting more work. He only needed a little bit trimmed off and I figured he'd wear it off quickly. 2. He's a bit lazy. When we walk on the roads he drags his toes, as if it's too much effort to pick them up. When I urge him out of the poky pony pace, he picks up his feet nicely. 3. He's young and learning how to balance me and handle his new CG while trotting, a different exercise than walking. So . . . the whole upshot is I think he'll get over it, but believe me, I'm watching the feet very carefully. I do NOT want to go your route! Thanks - Casey Tyr, who ran away from me on the lunge line today and got to do more work than I'd planned.
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Nancy T - whats Syno - Flex? Never heard of it. My horse trips to - didn't realize that so many other people had this problem. I am going to try cavelletti as soon as the ground unfreezes! Did you find they helped at all? Nancy in NH
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am no ferrier but I wonder if you are not adding to a problem caused partially by being so upright??? Has your ferrier tried to balance him more and that might put him back a bit on his heels with the squared off toe so he breaks over more easily? Jean Gayle Aberdeen Wa. where we have another storm coming in with heavy rain big winds and flooding..Sob -Original Message- From: duane trupiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjord news letter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 10:22 PM Subject: tripping This message is from: duane trupiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] My big fjord gelding also trips. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to when and where. He has gone down on his knees twice with me; once in a deep sandy corner of an arena during a lesson coming down from a trot, and once trail riding down the road with other horses at a fast trot. In the arena he often trips at a walk which I blame to laziness. Sometimes he's better after being trimmed fairly short in the toe and upright. He has never been lame.He does carry a lot of weight thru his . be awesome! Nite all. Nancy T.
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ernie, I do not think Gunnar was there then as he has been in Calif for awhile. Poor guy is outside now in very windy, cold weather and must be wondering where he is. Thanks for the good wishes and yes the toe can be squared when shoes are used. It makes for an easier breakover. Jean Gayle Aberdeen Wa. with winds to 70 mph, heavy rain and 38 degrees. It is agony! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 7:17 PM Subject: Re: tripping This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded by Ernie Botte on 01/27/99 09:07 PM --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/27/99 01:24:16 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ernie Botte) Subject: Re: tripping Hi Jean G - thanks for the info. Think I'll try that wild horse trim - can you do that if your horse has shoes? Good luck with your new guy - his name is familiar. I looked at a fjord I think they called him Gunnar here in NH a couple of years ago - he was at a camp with his owners daughter. Is it the same one? Hope it works out well with the two of you.
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded by Ernie Botte on 01/27/99 09:07 PM --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/27/99 01:24:16 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ernie Botte) Subject: Re: tripping Hi Jean G - thanks for the info. Think I'll try that wild horse trim - can you do that if your horse has shoes? Good luck with your new guy - his name is familiar. I looked at a fjord I think they called him Gunnar here in NH a couple of years ago - he was at a camp with his owners daughter. Is it the same one? Hope it works out well with the two of you.
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This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bjorken tripped with me after a long and strenuous but great lesson in which we were practicing canter departs. At the end of the lesson I was trotting him around my small arena, where the footing was very hard, pocked with hoofprints and rough and he stumbled, went down to his nose and I was over his head in an instant. My instructor turned around to see us go down without any warning. My heavy glasses gave me black eyes (and I later dicovered the top bit of my nose was broken) but after ascertaining that I could move everything, my instructor made me get back on and work him in half halts, as she thought he was running through the half halts. He was obviously inattentive and maybe a little tired and lazy when he tripped. I was wearing my helmet, think goodness and don't even get on a horse without one anymore. I felt the shock in my neck and shoulders and thought that I would be terribly sore from the fall, but took some Ibuprofen and a lot of TRAUMEEL, a homeopathic medicine for trauma and had absolutely no soreness in my neck and shoulders! The TRAUMEEL works! Bjorken will stumble and trip when I ride him in the field and he is bored and lazy, but when I trot him over the series of caveletti set up along the fence he has an energetic, wonderful trot with Impulsion. He will actually try to veer over to trot the caveletti if I let him, and seems to really enjoy it. He is very sure footed out on the trail. Oh yes, we decided that he was overdue for a trim and reset of his shoes the day he tripped, and that may have contributed to it (Long toes) Jean in COLD Fairbanks, Alaska, -40 F At 10:29 AM 1/27/99 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) When you have your horse on the bit they are not so heavy in front and usually are paying more attention. On the bit as you probably know is a firm yet giving rein so the horse is balanced. ** Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) When you have your horse on the bit they are not so heavy in front and usually are paying more attention. On the bit as you probably know is a firm yet giving rein so the horse is balanced. You might have trouble with this re a western style bit. Experts??? I just felt that other than my ferriers remarks about knees knocking out the other knee they were being lazy and their straight little legs dont make it easy for them to pick up their feet. Jean Gayle Aberdeen 40 degrees, windy and rainy. This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't done anything yet to stop the tripping. I guess I would start the trotting poles and cavelletti. The canter is non-existent. She needs a lot of work there. I would appreciate any hints. We don't have an arena to work in, nor any open spaces, just a driveway. Suzan Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't done anything yet to stop the tripping. I guess I would start the trotting poles and cavelletti. The canter is non-existent. She needs a lot of work there. I would appreciate any hints. We don't have an arena to work in, nor any open spaces, just a driveway. Suzan
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Hi, what have you done to correct it and when does your horse trip? On the circle? Loose rein? Canter? Jean Gayle This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In response to Jean Gayle's question if other Fjords trip ... My horse trips a lot, too. Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
