Re: FISH IN STOCK TANKS (insulated water troughs)
This message is from: Sarah Stacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An Alaskan tip: broken deep freezers make excellent water troughs! They are already insulated and fjord proof. Just remove the lid. I only use a 250 watt submersible heater in ours (25 cubic foot) and it works down to -10 degrees, and if it stays colder that -10 for more than a day I switch to a 1000 watt. It's also a great way to recycle an appliance that would otherwise become a hazardous material in a landfill. It's been cold here too, -20 at night, but sunny and warmish during the day. Sarah Soldotna, AK The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But what about the fish "droppings" Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: "Lori Garone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> so the fish are the septic system and then adding water even chlorinated water as the horses drink the water keeps the water being replenished so no ammonia build up and the fish eat the bacteria to keep the tank clean and everyone is living in a happy little ecosystem? ;0) Lori ~( / / > /> Lori Garone, PT, HPCS NCEFT Program Director Hippotherapy Clinical Specialist 5001 Woodside Road Woodside, CA 94062 phone: 650 851 2271 x 2# Fax: 650 851 3480 The Protected Health Information (PHI) contained in this email/fax is CONFIDENTIAL. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. It is to be used only to aid in providing specific healthcare services to this patient or individual. Any other use is a violation of Federal Law ( HIPAA) and will be reported as such. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Ernest Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 2:36 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: FISH IN STOCK TANKS This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think the man made pond was an Indoor pond (in the house?) and maybe The stock tank is bigger? and gets the water replaced as the horses drink it down, while the indoor Koi pond had a filter system that was supposed to keep it clean, but no water replaced at regular intervals as in the stock tank. Then when the filter system broke, the water got too full of ammonia and other refuse. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and +5, but with wind.. >>Why is this? That the fish will live in a water trough and not a man >>made pond? >>Lori The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jerrell friz wrote: The fish are really a good indicator of the health of your tank. Dead fish, bad water. Pretty soon,,, dead horses. This is a gross overstatement. Many things that aren't even a slight health concern for a horse, such as poorly oxygenated or overly-warm water or physical stress due to the lack of habitat or shade in a stock tank, will quickly kill fish. DeeAnna The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think the man made pond was an Indoor pond (in the house?) and maybe The stock tank is bigger? and gets the water replaced as the horses drink it down, while the indoor Koi pond had a filter system that was supposed to keep it clean, but no water replaced at regular intervals as in the stock tank. Then when the filter system broke, the water got too full of ammonia and other refuse. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and +5, but with wind.. Why is this? That the fish will live in a water trough and not a man made pond? Lori The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why is this? That the fish will live in a water trough and not a man made pond? Lori GOOD QUESTION! I would say it works like your septic tank system. If you did nothing to your stock tank but add water once in awhile [especially city chlorinated water, kills all the good,and bad, bacteria] it would become a sludge mess. So, you do need to do some maintenance on it. Same as you do with your septic tank. We have ours pumped every 3 years. If we had a house full, then it would be more often. The fish are really a good indicator of the health of your tank. Dead fish, bad water. Pretty soon,,, dead horses. Our solders, [many years ago] used to carry canary's, to detect poison gas, dead canary, better get the gas mask on pronto! dah ! Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson,Ca. For your security this Message has been checked for Viruses as a courtesy of Com-Pair Services! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: "Lori Garone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why is this? That the fish will live in a water trough and not a man made pond? Lori ~( / / > /> Lori Garone, PT, HPCS NCEFT Program Director Hippotherapy Clinical Specialist 5001 Woodside Road Woodside, CA 94062 phone: 650 851 2271 x 2# Fax: 650 851 3480 The Protected Health Information (PHI) contained in this email/fax is CONFIDENTIAL. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. It is to be used only to aid in providing specific healthcare services to this patient or individual. Any other use is a violation of Federal Law ( HIPAA) and will be reported as such. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve McIlree Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 7:49 AM To: jerrell friz Subject: Re: FISH IN STOCK TANKS This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Several years ago the folks with whom we boarded our horses went on vacation, leaving their pets in the care of a neighbor. After they had been gone for several days, we got a call from the neighbor in a panic because the koi in the indoor pond were looking sick. We went out there to see what could be done, and by the time we arrived all the fish were belly-up. The problem seemed to be that the expensive filter system had failed, and I couldn't see any way to fix it. The only thing we could figure to do was move the nearly dead fish to the horses' stock tank. As soon as we put them in the tank, a couple of the fish revived, but one seemed to be beyond rescue. However, we left it there, and hoped the horses wouldn't think is was a toy. When we went out the next day, we found ALL the fish swimming happily in the tank. When they returned from vacation, the owners chose to leave the fish in the stock tank, and they seemed to thrive. -- Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA Who would give up liberty to gain security deserves neither liberty nor security. -- Benjamin Franklin The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Several years ago the folks with whom we boarded our horses went on vacation, leaving their pets in the care of a neighbor. After they had been gone for several days, we got a call from the neighbor in a panic because the koi in the indoor pond were looking sick. We went out there to see what could be done, and by the time we arrived all the fish were belly-up. The problem seemed to be that the expensive filter system had failed, and I couldn't see any way to fix it. The only thing we could figure to do was move the nearly dead fish to the horses' stock tank. As soon as we put them in the tank, a couple of the fish revived, but one seemed to be beyond rescue. However, we left it there, and hoped the horses wouldn't think is was a toy. When we went out the next day, we found ALL the fish swimming happily in the tank. When they returned from vacation, the owners chose to leave the fish in the stock tank, and they seemed to thrive. -- Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA Who would give up liberty to gain security deserves neither liberty nor security. -- Benjamin Franklin The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: "Reena Giola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gus's tank actually froze this past winter with about 2" of ice when we had some cold weather go throughI was worried about the fish, but they were fine. In the summer they stay down at the bottom of the tank and we don't see them often reena I get a lot of pleasure with this, and very seldom clean my tanks. Our tanks have frozen on top and gotten fairly hot, with no problem. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: "Reena Giola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When I got into horses in California, that was the standard to have fish in the tanks...when we moved to MI they thought I was a nutcase and couldn't believe we had fish in our tanks! hahaha we have them here in AZ and they are thriving...huge fellows I have to say. I didn't see them for quite awhile and thought uh oh, the heron got them (the barn owners lost all the fish in the backyard pond to a heron that started to visit) so off to the store I went to get some more..only to find out about 2 weeks later that the original fish were still there. So as of right now we have three huge goldfish and two smaller 'calico' type gold fish, all doing well.We love to watch them come up to the top. They are great to have and keep the mosquito larve down. Reena AZ Since I have never seen much on this list about putting fish in the water tanks, thought I might mention it. After 1 year now, of not cleaning the tanks, and only losing one fish this Winter, not to mention the hot Summer of 2006. I can say it is working good for me. Anderson, Ca. "Ride and Drive your horses barrel to get the correct timing" For your security this Message has been checked for Viruses as a courtesy of Com-Pair Services! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder how the fish would do in Northern Minnesota, if the tank is heated? The dream was always running ahead of me. To catch up, to live for a moment in unison with it, that was the miracle. - Anais Nin ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I seem to remember someone on this list telling of their Fjord waiting at the tank to catching the goldfish as they came to the top, and then eating them! At best they tossed them on the ground, enjoying a new game! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still clear and coldAn all time record breaking March and last half of February. We have used fish in our large tanks for years. The fish become "pets" after a while. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We put mosquito fish in our tanks, but what I love best is the feeder goldfish we put in. I buy a bunch and put them in the tanks. Some of our tanks are 8 feet in diameter, and near two feet deep. In each tank I now have one LARGE goldfish (5 to 6 inches long), after years of doing this. I suspect the goldfish eat the mosquito fish, but they reproduce fast. We have seen egrets sitting on the edge of our tanks before. I get a lot of pleasure with this, and very seldom clean my tanks. Our tanks have frozen on top and gotten fairly hot, with no problem. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We have used fish in our large tanks for years. The fish become "pets" after a while. The only time we have lost one was when a person was cleaning out the well and poured bleach into the well and forgot that the bleach would kill the fish... Instead of running the water elsewhere, this person thought they would be helpful and fill up my water tanks for me. Needless to say, we lost a crop of 11 year old fish; but then, they only cost me 10 cents each at Wal-Mart. Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden Bed, Barn, Breakfast & Baskets Southern Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: FISH IN STOCK TANKS
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, I keep fish in my stock tanks as well. It works great! I just have minnows and gold fish and they eat all the mosquito larvae. Question: Does anyone know the formula for estimating a fjord's finished height by measuing their legs when they are young? Thanks, Bonnie MacCurdy Visalia, CA - Original Message - From: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: FISH IN STOCK TANKS This message is from: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi List, Since I have never seen much on this list about putting fish in the water tanks, thought I might mention it. After 1 year now, of not cleaning the tanks, and only losing one fish this Winter, not to mention the hot Summer of 2006. I can say it is working good for me. Someone on the CDL list give the directions a couple years ago. I used to clean my tanks once a week, using baking soda, and a scrub brush, what a job, time consuming to, cuts into ones driving time.. Here is how it works. 5 to 6 fish per 100 gallons. I prefer, Shubunkins, [do a Google search to find out about them] They are about $2 each @ Wal-Mart. The tank will function like your septic tank. The heavy sludge will go to the bottom. The good bacteria will rise to the top. [like gray water] Keep your tank FULL of water. Put a few big rocks in for the fish to hide behind. The fish will get their feed from what falls out of the horses mouths. [ I supplement them with a little Dynamite grain pellets, once in awhile.] I cleaned the tank after 1 year,[ using the sludge in the bottom for the garden,] with a pressure washer. [ 10 minutes] The fish are now about 4-5 inches long. They are fun to watch. I believe the horses drink more water. Have you every seen your horse drink from a mud puddle? I have. The good bacteria at the top, is the same as a probiotic. This saves me money as I was buying a lot it. The fish also eat insects, larvae, etc. Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca. "Ride and Drive your horses barrel to get the correct timing" For your security this Message has been checked for Viruses as a courtesy of Com-Pair Services! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
