RE: NFHR logo

2006-05-05 Thread Cynthia Madden
This message is from: "Cynthia Madden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks for all the responses to my query. I will see what I can do. Yes, I
am working on the "cherished NFHR logo" and at this time, plan no changes in
it in any way other than to get a good version to use for artwork for items
for the 25th and of course, a nice clean version that hasn't been reproduced
a thousand times for use on publications, etc.

--
Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFHR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http:/www.geocities.com/cmadden88011


Re: NFHR Logo

2006-05-04 Thread bushnell

This message is from: "bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Somehow I imagine that these flowers were wildflowers, or... could they 
have national symbolism with Norway perhaps?

Ruthie, nw mt US
The wispy elongated flower was probably Heather, as it appears that the 
national flower for Norway is Purple Heather, Calluna Vulgaris. This logo 
might have originated in Norway? ..wouldn't that be lovely.


Ruthie, nw mt US 


Re: NFHR Logo

2006-05-04 Thread bushnell

This message is from: "bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


This message is from: "Cynthia Madden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have been trying to get the logo clearned up for use in the celebration. 
A

graphic artist has done a good job on it. Only problem, can't get a notion
of the flowers right over the banner. Anyone know what they are? Anyone 
have
a picture. The artist can really fix the logo up if we can add the 
flowers!

Please help, ASAP. --
Cynthia


ONE THING wrong about the logo that I've always noticed is that the horses 
are facing the wrong way.. a general rule in graphics is that the subject 
faces the page, not away from it ...and it's so easy to flip over a graphic 
now by computer.


The flowers appear to be 7 petaled daisies, Sunflower? along with maybe 
Lupine (or the lacy type of Larkspur).


Somehow I imagine that these flowers were wildflowers, or... could they have 
national symbolism with Norway perhaps?


Good Luck.

Ruthie, nw mt US 


RE: NFHR Logo flowers

2006-05-04 Thread Karen McCarthy
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gee Cynthia, I suppose you are referring to our current cherished logo?

If so, there appears to be one each of a coneflower-type flower
(Rudebeckia / Black Eyed Susan, or Echinacea / Coneflower), and
ragwort-type (astilbe?). If they are doing a color banner, there are
several colors to choose from in each variety. Hope this helps?

Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, 
Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees

  

  From: "Cynthia Madden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], FH-L 
  Subject: NFHR Logo
  Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 21:47:47 -0600
  This message is from: "Cynthia Madden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  I have been trying to get the logo clearned up for use in the
  celebration. A
  graphic artist has done a good job on it. Only problem, can't get a
  notion
  of the flowers right over the banner. Anyone know what they are?
  Anyone have
  a picture. The artist can really fix the logo up if we can add the
  flowers!
  Please help, ASAP.

  --
  Cynthia Madden
  Las Cruces, NM
  personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  NFHR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http:/www.geocities.com/cmadden88011

  An unconscious people, an indoctrinated people, a people fed only on
  partisan
  information and opinion that confirm their own bias, a people made
  morbidly
  obese in mind and spirit by the junk food of propaganda, is less
  inclined to
  put up a fight, to ask questions and be skeptical. That kind of
  orthodoxy
  can
  kill a democracy – or worse.
  - Bill Moyers, National Conference on Media Reform
  St. Louis, Missouri May 15, 2005


Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-21 Thread Jas0441
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Everyone, 


I am a firm believer not to  criticize somthing without offering a solution to 
the problem. So here is my idea of a solution. 
Here is what could be done to handle the idea of changeing the NFHR log.  Open 
it up as a competition to the membership and ask people to submit ideas for a 
new logo. Maybe we will get 4-5 entries ? Then put those entries in the Herald 
with a ballot that could be mailed back so the people could vote for their 
favorite.  The current logo could be one of the entries. Or we could do the 
voting at the same time  when we hold the election of officers, that way it 
might limit the cost.  Anyway, this  one way to do it so that the membership 
gets to have a say. Just wanted to offer my idea. 

Now back to getting ready for Libby !!!

Judy Phelps
Echo Valley Fjords
Chelan, Wa. 



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-20 Thread Ruth Bushnell
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> The MISSION of the Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry is to register and 
> preserve the purity of the Norwegian Fjord Horse and will include 
> education, and the promotion of the breed.
> 
> The NFHR VISION is to provide high quality, efficient service to meet 
> registration and membership growth.
> 
> Mike
> 
THANKS very much Mike.  Ruthie, nw mt



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-20 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 03:38 PM 8/19/2004, you wrote:

This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

THAT'S WHAT what I always thought... I looked for the mission statement of
the incorporated bylaws just now and couldn't find it, saw the bylaws but
not the mission...? Mike, could you please tell me where, or what, they are?


The Mission & Vision statements are not part of the Bylaws.

Here they are:

The MISSION of the Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry is to register and 
preserve the purity of the Norwegian Fjord Horse and will include 
education, and the promotion of the breed.


The NFHR VISION is to provide high quality, efficient service to meet 
registration and membership growth.


Mike


===

Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
PO Box 685
Webster, NY  14580-0685

Voice 585-872-4114
FAX 585-787-0497

http://www.nfhr.com
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-20 Thread Karen McCarthy
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Lori, well put. Thanls for your professional opinion..Kmac

Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, 
Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees  

Original Message Follows From: Lori Lemley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've been a graphic artist for 14 years, done hundreds of logos, and so
can't help but throw in my 2 cents on this one.  The very fact that
it is NOT sleek and corporate and plastered all over a bunch of cheap
plastic junk is something I find very appealing.
Security.



RE: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread Frederick J. Pack
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If I were able to vote:

Leave the LOGO ALONE

Fred

All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus 2004.
Fred and Lois Pack
Pack's Peak Stables
Wilkeson, Washington 98396 
http://www.geocities.com/friendlyfred98 



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread Linda Lottie
This message is from: "Linda Lottie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mark..has the BOD looked into bumper stickers?  I would love a snazzy
bumper sticker for my truck...All Things Fjord has looked into
bumperstickers but the cost is pretty steep for a business as small as
ours.  I would be happy to pay for a couple
bumperstickers..especially if they are "fun and fjordy:)"

Linda Lottie

>From: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To:
fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >Subject:
Re: NFHR Logo >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:05:59 -0500 > >This message is
from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hello Everyone, > >I was
one of the people who brought up the idea of changing the NFHR >logo.  I
believed that our present logo was graphically too busy and >didn't
reflect the true versatility of our breed.  We didn't come up >with this
idea because of the merger and we certainly haven't been >operating in
secrecy.  While I agree that the NFHR is a "democracy", >it operates just
like our government, you elect officials to make >the day to day
decisions.  Not have a poll for every one of them.  I >would hope that
you would trust us to do the right thing both with >the logo and with all
the other issues that come up daily. > >My idea concerning the logo was
to only change the Fjords to one >Fjord and leave the rest as is.  It's
been mentioned to have our 25 >years included as well (1981 -2006).  This
would still be >immediately recognizable as the NFHR logo but at the same
time not >indicate that the Fjord is only a draft horse.  Nothing has
been >decided yet and I'm sure the BOD members that are on this list have
>read your concerns. > >Yours, > >Mark McGinley >Mariposa Farm > >Ruth
Bushnell wrote: > >>This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >>>Hey, doesn't anyone read their Fjord
Herald, the new logo has now >>>been >>>mentioned in both the Spring and
Summer issue. >>>Sue >>> >>> >> >>I JUST LOOKED at the spring issue,
because I am one who missed it, >>and I >>think because the item was
linked with the  mention of websites I >>never made >>the connection that
it was  T  H  E  logo! (the sacred logo!) >> >>Definitely think this
should be well mulled over before anything is >>done >>about it... does
the Queen update her logo!? do countries change >>their >>flags!? come
on I'm sure when the minor registry merged with >>the NFHR >>they
would have expected to assume their identity! >> >>changing a well
established logo to somehow accommodate a recent >>minor >>acquisition,
if indeed this is the case,  is unheard of! >> >>I think Karen's idea
about polling is a good one... or we could >>start a >>membership
petition for the preservation of T H E present logo... >>Libby >>might be
a place to begin. >> >>I am more than a little concerned about special
NFHR committees >>which >>apparently are instructed to operate
secretively under the >>leadership of >>their BOD designated persons...
(secrecy in a corporation is taboo, >>both >>legally and morally)  ...in
addition there is yet another entity >>promised in >>the same Herald,
"TEAM FJORD," which will "help with the work and >>financial
>>resources." I can't believe that BOD selective diversification of
>>leadership >>of our membership is going to avail us any good thing
other than >>schism! >>Let's keep our cards on the table for everyone to
see! >> >>folks, wake up!! keep your eyes on the business of YOUR
membership. >>Please >>note: a corporation is first and foremost a
democracy and change is >>supposed >>to come from the bottom up, not the
top down, but it's up to YOU as >>individuals to keep it that way. >>
>>Ruthie, nw mt (count me against logo change Karen



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Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread Ruth Bushnell
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  I was trying to make the point that if we
> become so focused on the refined type of Fjord, we will forget the actual
heritage of the Fjord and unless I am mistaken, that is the whole point of
creating this registry; to preserve the Norwegian Fjord. Lynda>>>
> >

THAT'S WHAT what I always thought... I looked for the mission statement of
the incorporated bylaws just now and couldn't find it, saw the bylaws but
not the mission...? Mike, could you please tell me where, or what, they are?
(also... has anyone else found the List archives or are they no longer
available?)

Ruthie  (yes, I referred to committees, not the BOD Mark



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread Lori Lemley

This message is from: Lori Lemley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I've been a graphic artist for 14 years, done hundreds of logos, and so 
can't help but throw in my 2 cents on this one. The existing logo may 
be too detailed to reduce well enough to fit on, say, a tiny promo item 
like a ball-point pen, but that really doesn't bother me. The very fact 
that it is NOT sleek and corporate and plastered all over a bunch of 
cheap plastic junk is something I find very appealing.


As for it representing the versatility of the Fjord, Brigid Wasson made 
the excellent point, "If we want our breed to stand out, we need to 
show what it is best known for, and that is work ethic." "Work ethic" 
is a bit of an abstract concept to convey in a logo, but a team in 
harness does a pretty good job of it, not to mention the nod to the 
history and origin of the breed the Norwegian harness makes.


Please leave the logo as is, or make an edited version of it for very 
small reproductions, such as lapel pins. Lots of companies and 
organizations have different versions of the same logo to fit different 
applications.


Lori Lemley
Little Rock, AR



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread jgayle
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Bit of paranoia going on here re the logo.  Why not have several different
logos that depict the various uses of the Fjord and each person can choose
their own.  The NFHR could choose their own with our input also.






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Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread BaileysFjords
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Jean,

As I clarified yesterday or the day before, I was joking when I suggested 
that the logo be changed.  I was trying to make the point that if we become so 
focused on the refined type of Fjord, we will forget the actual heritage of the 
Fjord and unless I am mistaken, that is the whole point of creating this 
registry; to preserve the Norwegian Fjord.

Lynda

<>



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On  19 Aug 2004 Linda wrote:

>>I do not believe the logo represents the Fjord as only a draft horse.  It 
>displays the heritage of the Norwegian Fjord.  All the other various
educational 
>material, including the website, can nicely show the versatility of the
Fjord. 
> As for adding the 25th anniversary slogan to the logowhat would you do 
>next year?  Logos should remain the same, not change yearly.  
>
>Lynda

Gee Lynda, only a couple days ago you were saying you thought we ought to
CHANGE the logo, you didn't like the one showing collars: 

Tue, 17 Aug 2004
 >I also have a question concerning the NFHR logoare we ever going to 
>change this to depict a Fjord that is being ridden or driven in breast
harness to 
>keep up with the more current trend?  It seems sort of outdated as Fjords
are 
>being bred and used more for riding and light driving, versus draft or heavy 
>work.  The logo depicts two Fjords in collars and it is not often we see
collars 
>being used for light work, unless for specific show purposes.

So now you want to keep it?

Confused,
Jean in Fairbanks, ALaska



Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread BaileysFjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello Mark,

<>

I think the brochure and other educational material can cover the various 
disciplines the Fjord is capable of.  There is no way a logo can reflect the 
versatility of the Fjord, THAT would be "busy"!

<<  We didn't come up 
with this idea because of the merger and we certainly haven't been 
operating in secrecy.>>

I believe the issue of secrecy has to do with the committees.  Can you 
clarify this?

<<  While I agree that the NFHR is a "democracy", it 
operates just like our government, you elect officials to make the day 
to day decisions.  Not have a poll for every one of them.  I would hope 
that you would trust us to do the right thing both with the logo and 
with all the other issues that come up daily.>>

Not necessarily.  Indeed, both the NFHR and government have elected 
officials.  However, in the case of the government, these elected officials are 
supposed to listen to and work within the wishes of those people who are in 
their 
region.  I am not seeing this happening with the NFHR.

As for the logo, this is NOT a day to day decision.  This is a fundamental 
landmark of our registry so therefore, this should be presented to the 
membership as a whole.  


<>


I do not believe the logo represents the Fjord as only a draft horse.  It 
displays the heritage of the Norwegian Fjord.  All the other various 
educational 
material, including the website, can nicely show the versatility of the Fjord. 
 As for adding the 25th anniversary slogan to the logowhat would you do 
next year?  Logos should remain the same, not change yearly.  

Lynda



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread BaileysFjords
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Hi,

In case I have not actually told Karen my thoughts...NO to changing the logo! 
 :)

Lynda



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread BaileysFjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ruthie,

Excellent post!

I certainly hope we are not creating a registry that has "secretive" 
committees...what is the point of that?

Lynda





Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread BaileysFjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

HI Sue,

Well, I did briefly read both, although reread them again last night.  I 
completely misunderstood the website/logo thing!  I did not realize it was THE 
logo!

Lynda





Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread BaileysFjords
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Hello Mike,

Thank you!

Lynda





Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread FjordAmy
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 8/19/2004 8:04:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't believe we are being subject to the whims of fashion.  If you get a 
chance to see how we all dress on the BOD you'll be comforted in that fact!



Aw Mark, are you saying the jeans and T-shirt look is not high fashion? LOL


Amy


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread FjordAmy
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 8/19/2004 7:32:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How come when I separate my answer from the message it all runs together when 
it goes through to the list. What am I doing or not doing??



Sue I have had the same problem... I make sure to tab down about 4 or 5 lines 
now and it seems to work. It still comes out funky looking. I think it has to 
do with the way the server reads all the different texts and formats we 
individual members send it.

Amy


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread Mariposa Farm

This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Brigid,

Thanks for your input.  I think what I'm looking for in a logo is 
something that is more recognizable at a glance that shows a "classic" 
Fjord.  I agree our logo is nice when the image is large enough to see 
it's detail but with it's many uses the size is often so small the 
picture gets lost and there is no "brand recognition"  (Do you have one 
of the NFHR pins?).  A logo is something that catches the eye and 
conveys a message almost subliminally, not artwork. 

I too don't want an "Arab" headed, pretty, cartoon Fjord as the image 
and I don't believe we are being subject to the whims of fashion.  If 
you get a chance to see how we all dress on the BOD you'll be comforted 
in that fact!


Mark

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 8/19/2004 6:11:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I believed that our present logo was graphically too busy and 
didn't reflect the true versatility of our breed. 

** I personally love the logo, and think it should stay. If you've been to an 
expo lately, you'll see that every breed is now touted as "versatile" and 
shown doing everything from jumping to reining. If we want our breed to stand 
out, we need to show what it is best known for, and that is work ethic. At its 
heart the Fjord is a brukshest, a useful horse, not a pretty creature subject to 
the whims of fashion. 



/ )_~
/L/L
Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
www.Brigid.Clickryder.com




Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread SorgerJ
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 8/19/04 7:11:36 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was one of the people who brought up the idea of changing the NFHR 
logo.  I believed that our present logo was graphically too busy and 
didn't reflect the true versatility of our breed.
I agree with changing the logo, many, none fjord, people think our fjords are 
only driving/draft horses and the current logo reflect that fallacy.
  We didn't come up 
with this idea because of the merger and we certainly haven't been 
operating in secrecy. 
In the Spring Herald under Presidents Message it says on Page 5, 'Develope a 
new logo now that the unification of the 2 major Fjord organizations is 
complete'. I would interprete that as changing the logo because of the merger.


My idea concerning the logo was to only change the Fjords to one Fjord 
and leave the rest as is.  It's been mentioned to have our 25 years 
included as well (1981 -2006).  This would still be immediately 
recognizable as the NFHR logo but at the same time not indicate that the 
Fjord is only a draft horse.  

I think this is a great idea.
Sue



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread Mariposa Farm

This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 We didn't come up 
with this idea because of the merger and we certainly haven't been 
operating in secrecy. 
 



In the Spring Herald under Presidents Message it says on Page 5, 'Develope a 
new logo now that the unification of the 2 major Fjord organizations is 
complete'. I would interprete that as changing the logo because of the merger.


Yes it reads that way but we had talked about changing the logo before 
the merger was completed.  As far as I know no logo ideas talked about 
included the merger in their theme.





My idea concerning the logo was to only change the Fjords to one Fjord 
and leave the rest as is.  It's been mentioned to have our 25 years 
included as well (1981 -2006).  This would still be immediately 
recognizable as the NFHR logo but at the same time not indicate that the 
Fjord is only a draft horse.  


I think this is a great idea.
Sue



Thanks Sue

Mark



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread Epona1971
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 8/19/2004 6:11:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I believed that our present logo was graphically too busy and 
didn't reflect the true versatility of our breed. 

** I personally love the logo, and think it should stay. If you've been to an 
expo lately, you'll see that every breed is now touted as "versatile" and 
shown doing everything from jumping to reining. If we want our breed to stand 
out, we need to show what it is best known for, and that is work ethic. At its 
heart the Fjord is a brukshest, a useful horse, not a pretty creature subject 
to 
the whims of fashion. 


/ )_~
/L/L
Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
www.Brigid.Clickryder.com



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread SorgerJ
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 8/19/04 8:17:16 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
In a message dated 8/19/04 7:11:36 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was one of the people who brought up the idea of changing the NFHR 
logo.  I believed that our present logo was graphically too busy and 
didn't reflect the true versatility of our breed.
I agree with changing the logo, many, none fjord, people think our fjords are 
only driving/draft horses and the current logo reflect that fallacy.
  We didn't come up 
with this idea because of the merger and we certainly haven't been 
operating in secrecy. 
In the Spring Herald under Presidents Message it says on Page 5, 'Develope a 
new logo now that the unification of the 2 major Fjord organizations is 
complete'. I would interprete that as changing the logo because of the merger.


My idea concerning the logo was to only change the Fjords to one Fjord 
and leave the rest as is.  It's been mentioned to have our 25 years 
included as well (1981 -2006).  This would still be immediately 
recognizable as the NFHR logo but at the same time not indicate that the 
Fjord is only a draft horse.  

I think this is a great idea.
Sue



How come when I separate my answer from the message it all runs together when 
it goes through to the list. What am I doing or not doing??
Sue



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread Ruth Bushnell
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hey, doesn't anyone read their Fjord Herald, the new logo has now been
> mentioned in both the Spring and Summer issue.
> Sue

I JUST LOOKED at the spring issue, because I am one who missed it, and I
think because the item was linked with the  mention of websites I never made
the connection that it was  T  H  E  logo! (the sacred logo!)

Definitely think this should be well mulled over before anything is done
about it... does the Queen update her logo!? do countries change their
flags!? come on I'm sure when the minor registry merged with the NFHR
they would have expected to assume their identity!

changing a well established logo to somehow accommodate a recent minor
acquisition, if indeed this is the case,  is unheard of!

I think Karen's idea about polling is a good one... or we could start a
membership petition for the preservation of T H E present logo... Libby
might be a place to begin.

I am more than a little concerned about special NFHR committees which
apparently are instructed to operate secretively under the leadership of
their BOD designated persons... (secrecy in a corporation is taboo, both
legally and morally)  ...in addition there is yet another entity promised in
the same Herald, "TEAM FJORD," which will "help with the work and financial
resources." I can't believe that BOD selective diversification of leadership
of our membership is going to avail us any good thing other than schism!
Let's keep our cards on the table for everyone to see!

folks, wake up!! keep your eyes on the business of YOUR membership. Please
note: a corporation is first and foremost a democracy and change is supposed
to come from the bottom up, not the top down, but it's up to YOU as
individuals to keep it that way.

Ruthie, nw mt (count me against logo change Karen



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread Mariposa Farm

This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Everyone,

I was one of the people who brought up the idea of changing the NFHR 
logo.  I believed that our present logo was graphically too busy and 
didn't reflect the true versatility of our breed.  We didn't come up 
with this idea because of the merger and we certainly haven't been 
operating in secrecy.  While I agree that the NFHR is a "democracy", it 
operates just like our government, you elect officials to make the day 
to day decisions.  Not have a poll for every one of them.  I would hope 
that you would trust us to do the right thing both with the logo and 
with all the other issues that come up daily.


My idea concerning the logo was to only change the Fjords to one Fjord 
and leave the rest as is.  It's been mentioned to have our 25 years 
included as well (1981 -2006).  This would still be immediately 
recognizable as the NFHR logo but at the same time not indicate that the 
Fjord is only a draft horse.  Nothing has been decided yet and I'm sure 
the BOD members that are on this list have read your concerns.


Yours,

Mark McGinley
Mariposa Farm

Ruth Bushnell wrote:


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Hey, doesn't anyone read their Fjord Herald, the new logo has now been
mentioned in both the Spring and Summer issue.
Sue
   



I JUST LOOKED at the spring issue, because I am one who missed it, and I
think because the item was linked with the  mention of websites I never made
the connection that it was  T  H  E  logo! (the sacred logo!)

Definitely think this should be well mulled over before anything is done
about it... does the Queen update her logo!? do countries change their
flags!? come on I'm sure when the minor registry merged with the NFHR
they would have expected to assume their identity!

changing a well established logo to somehow accommodate a recent minor
acquisition, if indeed this is the case,  is unheard of!

I think Karen's idea about polling is a good one... or we could start a
membership petition for the preservation of T H E present logo... Libby
might be a place to begin.

I am more than a little concerned about special NFHR committees which
apparently are instructed to operate secretively under the leadership of
their BOD designated persons... (secrecy in a corporation is taboo, both
legally and morally)  ...in addition there is yet another entity promised in
the same Herald, "TEAM FJORD," which will "help with the work and financial
resources." I can't believe that BOD selective diversification of leadership
of our membership is going to avail us any good thing other than schism!
Let's keep our cards on the table for everyone to see!

folks, wake up!! keep your eyes on the business of YOUR membership. Please
note: a corporation is first and foremost a democracy and change is supposed
to come from the bottom up, not the top down, but it's up to YOU as
individuals to keep it that way.

Ruthie, nw mt (count me against logo change Karen




Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread SorgerJ
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Hey, doesn't anyone read their Fjord Herald, the new logo has now been 
mentioned in both the Spring and Summer issue. It seems strange that this 
should 
come up now when it has been in print for months. Remember the NFHR unified 
with 
the NFA they probably had a logo they really liked it seems only fair, to me, 
that a new logo should be produced. 
Just my Humble Opinion (well maybe not so humble) :-)
Sue



Re: NFHR Logo

2004-08-19 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

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Like I said in my last reply - The BOD voted to LOOK into changing the 
Logo.  I didn't say they changed it.  It is still being looked into.  No 
decisions have been made yet.


I will forward your concerns over the change to the BOD though.

Thanks,

Mike

At 09:02 PM 8/18/2004, you wrote:

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Hello,

Why was a change to the logo not voted on by the membership at large?  This
is a symbol of the Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry so therefore, is associated
with all of its members.  This a highly important decision that should be
discussed and voted on by all members, not just the BOD.

Lynda





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