Re: Fjords and the 13th Warrior
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] An even better description of the filming with the Fjords was written by Anita for the Fjord Herald and came out in the Winter 1999, Issue #49. If you can get a copy of this it is really interesting. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, with a zillion mosquitos! From Krist Jeanine Martinsen Really enjoyed reading Anita's message re the filming of the movie. Much better than the movie. Must have been quite an adventure. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fjords and the 13th Warrior
This message is from: Krist Martinsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] From Krist Jeanine Martinsen Really enjoyed reading Anita's message re the filming of the movie. Much better than the movie. Must have been quite an adventure. - Original Message - From: Jean Ernest Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:48 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Fjords and the 13th Warrior This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Unraus supplied a lot of the Fjords in the movie. If you want to read Anita's accounts of the filming, look in the archives: http://www.eScribe.com/pets/fjordhorse/m11581.html The last movie was the 13th Warrior that took two years to be released. There wereabout 60 Fjords of which we supplied 21. Ted Swendsen and Helena Klement supplied about another 20 head between them and some came from Sask. as well as several from individual people. Only during the big rides were all 125 head out at once. Usually we worked a total of 40-60 head of all horses every day. We worked for the first week in July until the middle of Sept. Orville was one of the Wendol's and many a day was 14-16 hour days starting with costume and makeup. The horses learnt to have patience and be ready to go but to relax and get some sleep in between takes. Sometimes it might be two hours between and the next time they would have to go right away. They all learnt to listen for Rolling Action and they were gone as most scenes were wide open. Then they would come back to the starting point and have to stand in line. It was a standing joke that the Wendols could not count. They would be told to line up in threes or fours and a lot of them never did get that figured out. One filly that we sold to New York would lay down between takes and her 14 yr old rider would snooze on top of her. I wish I could have got some of the waiting pics. 7 or 8 Wendols sitting around a stump with everyone on the next person's shoulder sound asleep and their reins in their hands with the horse standing with hind leg cocked also asleep. With the long hours sleep was a real rare commodiy. We also worked 6 day a week and would take the Sunday shift so we would have time to go over the horses and make sure everyone was okay. My job was staying at the tent and cleaning barn, feeding, doctoring etc. I did get to go up top a couple of nights and watch. I too wish we could take the cuttings and make another film. http://www.eScribe.com/pets/fjordhorse/m11555.html Got a chuckle out of Misha's description of the 13th Warrior. Wouldn't say it was the worst movie I had seen but it sure could have used a story line. After two and a half months of filming some spectacular shots of the horses the six or so min. on the screen were a disappointment. We heard the Director John Tiernman and Michael Crichton had a big fight over the movie and the Director lost. He was the man with the vision of how it should be and controlled all the shooting and it was different from Mr. Crichton's. We plan on getting the video and going over the horse scenes frame by frame and see who we can identify. None of the spectacular shots were used that we could see. During filming they said they were happy if they got 4 or 5 seconds of good footage. I finally seen why. Everything was so fast my eyes had trouble adjusting to the fast pace and we were sitting near the front which was a mistake. The white Arab that Antonio rode had 16 or 17 different horses from start to finish if I remember right. The whole movie thing certainly was a eye opener but would do it again with a few changes. Out of the 22 head we took to Campbell River in 97 all are sold except for one gelding, the three broodmares that are not for sale and the only non Fjord that went. That was Strausser, our red dun Hanoverian gelding that we took to Ebbs, Austria in 98 for the World Singles Championship. His moment of movie fame was somersaulting in the moat with Mel Hyland, former World Champion Saddle Bronc rider. Mel got too close to the edge and a front foot sunk and over they went. Going exactly where you put Strausser, at whatever speed is what made Strausser so quick in the hazards. You have to respect that trust and not diminish it in any way. Mel didn't ride him again after that. If you want to search the Archives for more, go to http://www.eScribe.com/pets/fjordhorse/ . You will be asked for User Name which is fjordhorse and the passwaord is fjords_rule Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, cloudy and will be 65 degrees with 22 hours daylight. This is what I know about the horses in the movie. Most of the Fjords that you saw were computer generated. Lars was the Fjord that the leader of the enemy tribe was riding. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fjords and the 13th Warrior
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Unraus supplied a lot of the Fjords in the movie. If you want to read Anita's accounts of the filming, look in the archives: http://www.eScribe.com/pets/fjordhorse/m11581.html The last movie was the 13th Warrior that took two years to be released. There wereabout 60 Fjords of which we supplied 21. Ted Swendsen and Helena Klement supplied about another 20 head between them and some came from Sask. as well as several from individual people. Only during the big rides were all 125 head out at once. Usually we worked a total of 40-60 head of all horses every day. We worked for the first week in July until the middle of Sept. Orville was one of the Wendol's and many a day was 14-16 hour days starting with costume and makeup. The horses learnt to have patience and be ready to go but to relax and get some sleep in between takes. Sometimes it might be two hours between and the next time they would have to go right away. They all learnt to listen for Rolling Action and they were gone as most scenes were wide open. Then they would come back to the starting point and have to stand in line. It was a standing joke that the Wendols could not count. They would be told to line up in threes or fours and a lot of them never did get that figured out. One filly that we sold to New York would lay down between takes and her 14 yr old rider would snooze on top of her. I wish I could have got some of the waiting pics. 7 or 8 Wendols sitting around a stump with everyone on the next person's shoulder sound asleep and their reins in their hands with the horse standing with hind leg cocked also asleep. With the long hours sleep was a real rare commodiy. We also worked 6 day a week and would take the Sunday shift so we would have time to go over the horses and make sure everyone was okay. My job was staying at the tent and cleaning barn, feeding, doctoring etc. I did get to go up top a couple of nights and watch. I too wish we could take the cuttings and make another film. http://www.eScribe.com/pets/fjordhorse/m11555.html Got a chuckle out of Misha's description of the 13th Warrior. Wouldn't say it was the worst movie I had seen but it sure could have used a story line. After two and a half months of filming some spectacular shots of the horses the six or so min. on the screen were a disappointment. We heard the Director John Tiernman and Michael Crichton had a big fight over the movie and the Director lost. He was the man with the vision of how it should be and controlled all the shooting and it was different from Mr. Crichton's. We plan on getting the video and going over the horse scenes frame by frame and see who we can identify. None of the spectacular shots were used that we could see. During filming they said they were happy if they got 4 or 5 seconds of good footage. I finally seen why. Everything was so fast my eyes had trouble adjusting to the fast pace and we were sitting near the front which was a mistake. The white Arab that Antonio rode had 16 or 17 different horses from start to finish if I remember right. The whole movie thing certainly was a eye opener but would do it again with a few changes. Out of the 22 head we took to Campbell River in 97 all are sold except for one gelding, the three broodmares that are not for sale and the only non Fjord that went. That was Strausser, our red dun Hanoverian gelding that we took to Ebbs, Austria in 98 for the World Singles Championship. His moment of movie fame was somersaulting in the moat with Mel Hyland, former World Champion Saddle Bronc rider. Mel got too close to the edge and a front foot sunk and over they went. Going exactly where you put Strausser, at whatever speed is what made Strausser so quick in the hazards. You have to respect that trust and not diminish it in any way. Mel didn't ride him again after that. If you want to search the Archives for more, go to http://www.eScribe.com/pets/fjordhorse/ . You will be asked for User Name which is fjordhorse and the passwaord is fjords_rule Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, cloudy and will be 65 degrees with 22 hours daylight. This is what I know about the horses in the movie. Most of the Fjords that you saw were computer generated. Lars was the Fjord that the leader of the enemy tribe was riding. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fjords and the 13th Warrior
This message is from: DT [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is what I know about the horses in the movie. Most of the Fjords that you saw were computer generated. Lars was the Fjord that the leader of the enemy tribe was riding. There was another Fjord from the same breeder that did some of the jumping. I only know this because the woman I got Lars from told me about him being in the movie and how they did it. Deb-mother of Lars.
The 13th Warrior
This message is from: Krist Martinsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from Krist and Jeanine Martinsen Because we heard of the Fjord Horses shown in the Thirteenth Warrior, we rented the video. We suggest that you go spend the time training or enjoying your horses instead of wasting your money on this movie. Mostly battles with gore and difficult to tell what was really happening. Just glimpses of Fjords. We seldom rent videos, so it was a disappointment.
Re: 13th Warrior movie
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finally saw the 13 Warriors movie last night -- or parts of it, since I kept switching back and forth between the jumping show and the movie since I only wanted to see the fjord parts. Attack of the Killer Fjords with those sweet little faces and sweet little pumpkin butts. Wish I had gotten to edit the tape on that movie. It would have been short, but oh so sweet. Gail Dorine
Re: I finally watched the 13th warrior!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I watched it about a week ago and was pretty disappointed. I'm glad I didn't go and see it in the theater. I had to sit through all the gore just to see what I wanted to see at the end... Baldur moved that fast once, he took off with me when I first got him. It wa the first time I had ever been run away with on any horse. Now he quits if I ask him to canter too long too fast. He's such a lazy bum sometimes, but I love him anyway. Kate in CT mom to Baldur
Re: I finally watched the 13th warrior!!
This message is from: sini seppala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michele Noonan wrote: And the other thing I noticed. I've never seen Fjords MOVE SO FAST. I think I need to see a few more in motion, I thought only Dusty new how to Get up and Go like that Do you think they could have used a certain trick: sometimes a scene is filmed at normal speed and then showed for example twice as fast in the final result. This is what was done e.g. when Zorro rides his two horses (standing up) through the woods like a madman (in Zorro's Mask). Actually the horses were cantering very slowly and under control although it looks pretty wild in the actual movie. This trick was used also when The Horse Whisperer was filmed, at least when the horse is laid down. Sini. home page at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html
I finally watched the 13th warrior!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay I had to watch that whole gruesome movie, just to see a few fleeting minutes of mainly Fjord rear ends (Although I did enjoy Antonio Benderes) Did anyone else notice the scene where at the end the bad guy leader (you know, the one with the horns) rides up to start the end fight? If you look close, as he raises his arm, you can see the buckles of the backpack that is holding the costume on, Its quite clear Wow do you think they had Jansport backpacks way back then HAHAHA And the other thing I noticed. I've never seen Fjords MOVE SO FAST. I think I need to see a few more in motion, I thought only Dusty new how to Get up and Go like that, Guess I need to get out more Michele Noonan Stevensville, Montana
Re: 13th Warrior
This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] dear peg, as long as its washable, i wouldn't mind. coolaid works for that sort of thing, but it's sticky. my kids would just hose off. denise
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, I have been in several movies and was left on the cutting room floor in one. Darn that movie star, whose name I seem to repress, who gleefully told me about it. But it seems they destroy these cuttings unless there is something of benefit in them. I suppose if you know the cutter??? It did not work for me. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who says horses do not look up? My huge trakehner, Charlie, is the only horse here who knows apples grow on trees and he can reach them! Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Alison Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Brian Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw that movie and agree that it was really awful, but I wondered where they found so many Fjords. I know that the Swendsons sent several (their horses are the Aaurun's horses), and I don't know how many reds are in the movie, but if there is only one, that's Iggy, the pony I took to regionals.
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This message is from: Anita Unrau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, it has actually been three movies our horses were involved with. The first one was in the 70's with our original gelding George. Dan Haggerty of Grizzley Adams fame got his start in this movie. The riders couldn't handle the tigers and the tiger handlers couldn't ride very well. Dan Hagerty was one of the tiger handlers. The movie was called When the North Winds Blow and you occasionally see it on the late night movies. It was about some guys in Siberia trying to catch Siberian Tigers. Near the end George has a tiger on a travois and the two guys are talking and one has a bunch of flowers in his hand. They cut the scene just as George went to eat the flowers. If you know what to look for you can see the Fjord going for the food. George was the only horse there that would go up to the tigers when in the nets and let them load them up. It was the early eighties when we took Bjarne and some of the other Fjords up Cathederal Mountin for the Clan of the Cave Bear. Permission was not granted for the horses to go out on the fragile alpine so we had 10 days of relaxation with a bunch of Fjords that were in a corral with helicopters landing right next to them. People always told us that horses don't look up but I got some pics of them looking up to see what that horrible noise was. The last movie was the 13th Warrior that took two years to be released. There wereabout 60 Fjords of which we supplied 21. Ted Swendsen and Helena Klement supplied about another 20 head between them and some came from Sask. as well as several from individual people. Only during the big rides were all 125 head out at once. Usually we worked a total of 40-60 head of all horses every day. We worked for the first week in July until the middle of Sept. Orville was one of the Wendol's and many a day was 14-16 hour days starting with costume and makeup. The horses learnt to have patience and be ready to go but to relax and get some sleep in between takes. Sometimes it might be two hours between and the next time they would have to go right away. They all learnt to listen for Rolling Action and they were gone as most scenes were wide open. Then they would come back to the starting point and have to stand in line. It was a standing joke that the Wendols could not count. They would be told to line up in threes or fours and a lot of them never did get that figured out. One filly that we sold to New York would lay down between takes and her 14 yr old rider would snooze on top of her. I wish I could have got some of the waiting pics. 7 or 8 Wendols sitting around a stump with everyone on the next person's shoulder sound asleep and their reins in their hands with the horse standing with hind leg cocked also asleep. With the long hours sleep was a real rare commodiy. We also worked 6 day a week and would take the Sunday shift so we would have time to go over the horses and make sure everyone was okay. My job was staying at the tent and cleaning barn, feeding, doctoring etc. I did get to go up top a couple of nights and watch. I too wish we could take the cuttings and make another film. Anita Unrau Anvil's Acres Norwegian Fjord Horses.
Re:13th Warrior
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it was Clan of the Cave Bear that the Unraus had their fjords waiting for...No horse footage used. I don't think there WAS a movie made of Valley of Horses, was there? If so, I wanna see it! I think Anita told me my old Bjarne was in that group not used in Clan of the Cave Bear I have a picture of Orville riding Bjarne and ponying a bunch of Fjords, I think it was taken at the Cave Bear location? Anita? It was Anvil's Salomon, now owned by Cam Pedri that was the white Fjord in 13th warrior. Anita, could it be possible to retrieve some of that great footage that they cut out and view it? Or do they destroy it forever? Would be neat to produce a video of all that wonderful horse action. (Boy, am I Dreaming?) Jean ini Fabulous Fairbanks, Alaska, where it is STILL a balmy +25F but the moose are getting to be a problem getting in the hay barn. At 08:27 AM 1/24/2000 -0800, you wrote: The Fjords belong to Orville and Anita Unrau of Anvil's Acres. They have provided Fjord horses for at least two movies that I am aware of. It seems I recall Anita saying that they took several horses to the set of Valley of the Horses - at the movie company's request - and waited around forever, only to have the director decide not to use the horses. I never saw the movie, but have read the book and can't imagine making the movie without Fjords. Makes you wonder. Anyway, the white Fjord in the 13th Warrior is related to the ulsdun(white) Fjords that people on this list mention. He is a son of Anvil's Stina, grandson of Stella, great-grandson of Line - all of whom are ulsdun(white dun, if you will). I think I have that right anyway - Jean, Anita? Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Brian Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw that movie and agree that it was really awful, but I wondered where they found so many Fjords. Brian, The Fjords belong to Orville and Anita Unrau of Anvil's Acres. They have provided Fjord horses for at least two movies that I am aware of. It seems I recall Anita saying that they took several horses to the set of Valley of the Horses - at the movie company's request - and waited around forever, only to have the director decide not to use the horses. I never saw the movie, but have read the book and can't imagine making the movie without Fjords. Makes you wonder. Anyway, the white Fjord in the 13th Warrior is related to the ulsdun(white) Fjords that people on this list mention. He is a son of Anvil's Stina, grandson of Stella, great-grandson of Line - all of whom are ulsdun(white dun, if you will). I think I have that right anyway - Jean, Anita? Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
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This message is from: Meredith Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] The darling Fjordies came from the Unrau's Anvil's Acres. They have written about their experiences making the movie in the Fjord Herald and on this list. I think the story was based on a thoery that there really was a Neanderthal people still in existance during the Dark Ages living in the wilds of Norway. And that those people were the Wendol, Grendal, etc. The little fat lady figure they kept finding is called a Venus figure. They were made by Stone Age people in Europe. I'm glad I read the book first. This is one case where I felt it would have made the movie better had they broke away from the book a bit more. And I am 'so over' darkly filmed movies, I wish movie makers would wise up and realize that theirs is a visual medium - we need to see what's going on for us to enjoy it! And the quick clips that are so popular in music videos, commercials and movies - they used that fad way too often in this movie, so you never got any good visuals exept of Banderas' face! Since I have Braveheart in video drawer and we watch all the psycho killer movies like 'Silence of the Lambs', I watched this whole move and did not think it was unusually violent. Athough I love anthropology, Fjords and Banderas, the movie was disappointing but I still enjoyed it. Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA Dorina NFR Aagot
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This message is from: Brian Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw that movie and agree that it was really awful, but I wondered where they found so many Fjords.
Re: 13th warrior
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/23/00 2:23:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, I would rather think The Vikings, with Tony Curtis and Ernest Borgnine---not to mention Kirk Douglous blasting around on a real cutie Fjord was a better Viking movie. Yes. I agree with you there. If anybody sees that the movie is on tv, please let me know. I think that was the first place I ever saw a fjord! It's been years since I've actually seen the movie though. And I also found 13th Warrior a major league disappointment. What a waste of fjords! And acting talent! It was a rather tasteless, pointless movie, from where I sat. Pamela
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This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did anyone else notice the best Fjord Horse scene where a scout rides up to the top of the hill, but then, when they zoom in on the fellow his Fjording turns into a dark horse with long, thin ears and a dark, common mane! Yes, I especially noticed this scene, and was looking for Orville Unrau riding the very light colored fjord (white/Yellow dun?) Anvil's Salomon which was his mountas an extraSort of thought maybe it was Orville on Sal in this scene. Anita might know. Some years ago the Unraus had their fjords in the movie Clan of the Cave Bear, a novel that was prequel to the Valley of Horses and The Mammoth Hunters by Jean Auel. My old gelding Bjarne was used in this. I guess a lot of footage was shot with the Fjordhorses, but never used in the movie! There are no horses involved in the first novel. I wish they would make a movie of Valley of Horses.And the Fjords could have a major part! Oh well, If wishes were horses (FJORDS!) we'd have a movie about our beloved Fjordhorses! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, beautiful sunny day, to be over 60 degrees today! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More on 'The 13th Warrior'
This message is from: Meredith Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Was 'Re: Fw: Scott of the Antarctic' Pamela wrote ... It was an interesting movie, in its own way. But I didn't like it that the savage villains were the ones with the fjords! Didn't see near enough of them. I heard a lot of the movie ended up on the cutting room floor. Bet a lot of fjord footage was cut out. It was interesting watching, but I noticed a couple characters they started to develop and just poof, nothing. They cut out some good parts of the story, I'm sure. So I went out and bought the paperback book Eaters Of The Dead. Fascinating to read that the first three chapters are based on historical fact. You know how Crichton bases his stories on science, I don't know how much people pick up from the movie if you don't about the 'Venus of Willandorf' sp , the figure the Vikings found laying around after each monsterous raid, ... but, the story is based on the intereresting thoery that the Grendel (Wendol, bad guys) was real and that they were a Neanderthal people who lived deep in the Northern mountains as late as the Viking age. I have never read 'Grendel' but I always thought that he was one big, bad dragon. Very interesting stuff! Crichton states in his book that the Wendol (bad guys) ride black horses. So all through the book I imagined the Norsemen on Fjord Horses. But I read long ago, from the Unrau's I think, that the bad guys rode the cute Viking horses. Oh well. So I was over it by the time I saw the movie. I do think the hords of pale horses storming toward the encampment was visually more effective. I can see how the movie makers could put the primitive tribe on the primitive-colored horses, and think that the vikings may actually have aquired the North Horse from the Wendol! Character development wasn't this stories strong suit, even in the book. In the back of the book, as I was reading it, I wrote down all the thirteen plus some other characters and only had a picture in my mind of a few people by the end of the book. The movie doesn't fare much better. Did anyone else notice the best Fjord Horse scene where a scout rides up to the top of the hill, but then, when they zoom in on the fellow his Fjording turns into a dark horse with long, thin ears and a dark, common mane! And that all the stunt horses that had to fall over at a gallop were dark horses. All in all I liked the book better, that way I can have A.B. playing lead and riding a Fjord Horse! Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy TN USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Dorina NFR Aagot ~
Re: The 13th Warrior (movie)
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/29/99 22:06:03 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was enthralled when I saw the first Fjord, silhouetted in firelight, during a night battle scene. You've got my attention! Now I've got to go see it. Pamela
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All- Last night, after reading the emails about the 13th Warrior, I had to go see it. I was enthralled when I saw the first Fjord, silhouetted in firelight, during a night battle scene. Definitely worth checking out! I also love the day battle scene, shot from behind the advancing enemy: dozens of big Fjord rumps with striped tails! Brigid in CA
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This message is from: Brenda Simonson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anita wrote a little article about their experiences making the movie for the Herald (I THOUGHT!) but I can't seemed to find it, searched back until spring l997. Does anybody recall when this was in the Herald? Or IF it was in the Herald? Maybe it was an e-mail message.. Dear Jean: The article is on page 19 of the Winter 1999, Issue #49. Happy Reading. Brenda
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This message is from: John and Martie Bolinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, John took me to see the movie on Friday when it started here. I like Banderis also, but I'm not sure sitting through the gore was worth the little bit of Fjord we saw. Everytime the Fjords came storming through, it was very dark. You saw Fjord shadows with their riders carrying torches. You saw Fjord parts during the fighting scenes. But it all flashed by so fast you couldn't really make out any Fjord details. And without details, they just look like shaggy little horses having a great time running amuk. I wanted to see a couple Fjords just standing there looking like Fjords. I read the book earlier this year. I can understand the gore. I just don't like the gore right there bigger than life on the screen. It was well acted and the story line mostly made sense although they didn't go into the background of the Arab 13th warrior. Like the Arab horse! I didn't know that the 'vikings?' rode those big horses? Or maybe they were just part of the plunder they were bringing home? I think it is worth seeing anyway. Martie Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] The movie, the 13th Warrior, just opened today in Fairbanks. I must go see it to see the Fjords and Orville Unrau riding his all white (yellow?) Fjord as an extra, playing the part of a wendel (Anita...is that right?) I don't like violent or gory movies, tho.. has anybody seen this one yet? Since the original name of the book was Eaters of the Dead and there were some gory parts in the book (which I didn't finish) I got the impression it might be gory. How often will I have to shut my eyes? How gory is it? OTOH Antonio Banderas is the star.I'll have to keep my eyes open ! LOL Well, If I do go, I'll make a report! Anita wrote a little article about their experiences making the movie for the Herald (I THOUGHT!) but I can't seemed to find it, searched back until spring l997. Does anybody recall when this was in the Herald? Or IF it was in the Herald? Maybe it was an e-mail message.. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, a beautiful sunny day but frost forcast in low areas tonight! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: C. Pedri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am brand new to the list - in fact just joined it today. I wanted to introduce myself, and this message gives me the perfect opening. I live in the Phoenix AZ area and own one Fjord. He is the white (yellow? we're still trying to figure that out) gelding that Orville rode in this movie! I went to see the film tonight at its opening here. I couldn't wait until this week end, I was so excited. It wasn't really very gory at all. I don't like a lot of violence and blood either, and there were a couple of times I looked away, but it wasn't really as bad as I thought it might be. Antonio Bandaras is always worth keeping your eyes open for... The Fjord horses didn't have as prominent role as I had hoped they would, but it was still fun to see them and remember some of Anita's stories about the filming and how the horses learned to adapt to life on a movie set. I think it says a lot about the breed's temperament. I both ride and drive Sal. I'm a beginning driver and he is very good and patient with me. He's currently enjoying being out of the Phoenix heat and spending time with Linda Fairbanks who is a carriage driving trainer in CA. We hope to get him to the Nordifest in September. If I can get over for it, it will be fun to see a number of different Fjords in one location enjoying an outing. I'm looking forward to being on the list and learning more about Fjords, their people, and all the things people do with there horses. Regards, Cameron Pedri -- From: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The 13th Warrior (movie) Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 8:23 PM This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] The movie, the 13th Warrior, just opened today in Fairbanks. I must go see it to see the Fjords and Orville Unrau riding his all white (yellow?) Fjord as an extra, playing the part of a wendel (Anita...is that right?) I don't like violent or gory movies, tho.. has anybody seen this one yet? Since the original name of the book was Eaters of the Dead and there were some gory parts in the book (which I didn't finish) I got the impression it might be gory. How often will I have to shut my eyes? How gory is it? OTOH Antonio Banderas is the star.I'll have to keep my eyes open ! LOL Well, If I do go, I'll make a report! Anita wrote a little article about their experiences making the movie for the Herald (I THOUGHT!) but I can't seemed to find it, searched back until spring l997. Does anybody recall when this was in the Herald? Or IF it was in the Herald? Maybe it was an e-mail message.. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, a beautiful sunny day but frost forcast in low areas tonight! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Jean, everyone, I have to say I am very excited about this movie as my education/writing is focused on Germanic/Nordic Literature AND I love Fjords! Of course, I keep on telling myself Hollywood will not stay true to the story, but I can always hope for the best while watching beautiful horses. Mike and I were just talking by phone the other day and I made the comment I thought many of us have a tendency, online anyway, to see him as THE Registry. He is the one who always answers every question, retorts to all debates, helps difuse possible difficult issues and above all else, keeps the purpose of the Registry at heart. Good job, Mike. Lynda Daniel Bailey and Lynda C. Welch-Bailey Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI
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This message is from: Laurie Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] You're right Jean, Anita did have an article in the Herald about doing the movie. I don't remember which issue either. I'll let you know if I find it. Laurie
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This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] The movie, the 13th Warrior, just opened today in Fairbanks. I must go see it to see the Fjords and Orville Unrau riding his all white (yellow?) Fjord as an extra, playing the part of a wendel (Anita...is that right?) I don't like violent or gory movies, tho.. has anybody seen this one yet? Since the original name of the book was Eaters of the Dead and there were some gory parts in the book (which I didn't finish) I got the impression it might be gory. How often will I have to shut my eyes? How gory is it? OTOH Antonio Banderas is the star.I'll have to keep my eyes open ! LOL Well, If I do go, I'll make a report! Anita wrote a little article about their experiences making the movie for the Herald (I THOUGHT!) but I can't seemed to find it, searched back until spring l997. Does anybody recall when this was in the Herald? Or IF it was in the Herald? Maybe it was an e-mail message.. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, a beautiful sunny day but frost forcast in low areas tonight! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: the Sessoms' [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am very happy to report that they have changed the name of the Michael Crichton viking/monster movie, Eaters of the Dead to The 13th Warrior. It was coming out next month but they have pushed it back to July 31st. Touchstone pictures hired Anvil's Acres to supply the horses. You can see a couple of the horses they used in the film at the Canadian Fjord Horse site under 'horses for sale'. I have yet to find a picture of Fjords and Antonio Banderos (swoon), but I'm still hunting! Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy, Tennessee USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Dorina - NFR Aagot - - - Fjords - Caper - Carly - Crickett - - - Labradors
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This message is from: Northhorse [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-05-15 20:51:23 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have yet to find a picture of Fjords and Antonio Banderos (swoon), but I'm still hunting! Let me know where to find those pictures! I LIKE that actor, and would love to see him with some Fjords Pamela
