RE: lamness
This message is from: Deb Logan X-Ray for my Fjord cleared up a mystifying lameness - a cannon bone infection - simple surgery - all better now !! Deb > Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:53:58 -0600 > From: starfiref...@usa.net > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Subject: Re: lamness > > This message is from: Starfire Farm > > Robin Churchill wrote: > > >I have a warmblood who has seemed lame and was pronounced by Dr. Boswell at Palm Beach Equine (who is a well-known lameness specialist)as the laziest horse he had ever seen. > > > That is so funny! > > > Now that doesn't mean that there haven't been times that he really was lame. For that horse, he suggested work because he said if there is really a problem then work will bring it out and if there's not then the horse will get stronger and fitter and move better. Also my fjords sometimes look lame if they are what we call "behind the leg". > > > This is so very true. Another issue that can cause the appearance of > lameness is crookedness in the rider, which usually causes crookeness > and unbalance in the horse. Horses often try to compensate for where the > rider's weight is over their backs/bodies and when the rider's weight is > not centered, both laterally and/or longitutidally, this will cause > crookedness in the horse's way of going. This condition is often called > "rein lameness" but it should not be attributed simply to the use of the > reins. > > Sometimes young horses will look like they are lame, for a few strides, > when they are learning to canter under the rider. I like to say that > they are developing their "canter button" and they frequently offer the > canter once they learn it. > > You also want to make sure that the saddle is not pinching the horses > shoulders. > > If none of these things are an issue, I would be starting with radiographs. > > Beth > > > -- > Starfire Farm > Beth Beymer and Sandy North > http://www.starfirefarm.com > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: lamness
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com My old Bjarne, now 34, had on and off lameness when he was 12...the vet couldn't pin point it, but it turned out it was a long standing staph infection in his shoulder from an old injury that would flare up. If finally culminated in an abcess in his "arm pit". Surgery and antibiotics finally got rid of it and he wasn't lame after that (until the last few years with arthritis in his old age). Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, longest days with 21 hours, 49 minutes sunlight! > I'm not saying they *couldn't* do this, but it would definitely be my last > target for a lameness display. There are just way too many things that can > cause lameness beyond what would be seen in the normal vet testing. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: lamness
This message is from: Starfire Farm Robin Churchill wrote: I have a warmblood who has seemed lame and was pronounced by Dr. Boswell at Palm Beach Equine (who is a well-known lameness specialist)as the laziest horse he had ever seen. That is so funny! Now that doesn't mean that there haven't been times that he really was lame. For that horse, he suggested work because he said if there is really a problem then work will bring it out and if there's not then the horse will get stronger and fitter and move better. Also my fjords sometimes look lame if they are what we call "behind the leg". This is so very true. Another issue that can cause the appearance of lameness is crookedness in the rider, which usually causes crookeness and unbalance in the horse. Horses often try to compensate for where the rider's weight is over their backs/bodies and when the rider's weight is not centered, both laterally and/or longitutidally, this will cause crookedness in the horse's way of going. This condition is often called "rein lameness" but it should not be attributed simply to the use of the reins. Sometimes young horses will look like they are lame, for a few strides, when they are learning to canter under the rider. I like to say that they are developing their "canter button" and they frequently offer the canter once they learn it. You also want to make sure that the saddle is not pinching the horses shoulders. If none of these things are an issue, I would be starting with radiographs. Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: lamness
This message is from: Lauren Sellars Try taking this horse out of the arena with some buds and have a fun. No boring ride see if this helps. That should tell you something. I know some horses absolutely dislike arena work while others love it. Good Luck Lauren Stockwell wrote: This message is from: "Stockwell" I got a question for y'all Has any one had a Fjord that was smart enough to fake being lame? Reason I ask I have a client who just bought her first Fjord Skylar and she acts lame when working the vet was out and couldn't find anything wrong with all the testing done. The horse seems fine in the pasture with all the other horses. She has great feet " feet like Iron" as the ferrier states. Both the vet and the farrier are at a loss the next step is x-ray's. Thoughts? Roberta MN Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: lamness
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com I'm not saying they *couldn't* do this, but it would definitely be my last target for a lameness display. There are just way too many things that can cause lameness beyond what would be seen in the normal vet testing. Does the lameness occur working on a lunge line, or just under saddle? Free lunging, or just with a line and halter attached? Both directions or just one? What gaits does it occur? The best pony ever has gone through quite a few rounds of lameness - if ever there was a pony who was going to fake an illness, it's that bad boy. But he has always proven that theory wrong. The hardest one was an unidentified hoof abscess the vet swore did not exist. Joe knew it was there, it hurt, and it was 100 times worse with the added weight and constriction of a saddle and rider. It took a few weeks to finally emerge and blow the hoof wall and we were almost relieved to have an explanation. Kate * In a message dated 6/18/2009 10:14:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, afjordableac...@bevcomm.net writes: she acts lame when working the vet was out and couldn't find anything wrong with all the testing done **Dell Inspiron 15: Now starting at $349 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222435718x1201460505/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick. net%2Fclk%3B215748553%3B38126199%3Bs) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: lamness
This message is from: "Linda Schleef" Neither one of my fjords have tried that trick yet. However, I had a quarter horse that would walk just fine down this path to one particular bush and then start limping big time. There wasn't anything different about the footing before or after this spot - only the bush that I could identify. The limp would suddenly disappear like magic when he was headed home, whether I was leading him or on him for a few feet. It took this happening at least three times and a vet check before we figured out his scheme. The fourth time I put spurs on (didn't have to use them - just made a big deal of putting them on in front of him) and wonder of wonders, the limp disappeared when we came to his favorite place. I don't thing we tend to give enough credit to horses for their creativity! Linda, Hugin, and Tor -Original Message- Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: lamness
This message is from: Robin Churchill I have a warmblood who has seemed lame and was pronounced by Dr. Boswell at Palm Beach Equine (who is a well-known lameness specialist)as the laziest horse he had ever seen. Now that doesn't mean that there haven't been times that he really was lame. For that horse, he suggested work because he said if there is really a problem then work will bring it out and if there's not then the horse will get stronger and fitter and move better. Also my fjords sometimes look lame if they are what we call "behind the leg". In other words, not putting in any effort and dragging themselves around. However if the horse is lame when being ridden but not without a rider, it's a possibility that the extra weight of the rider, the saddle or the way the rider rides is affecting the horse's way of going. Good luck, Robin in Florida where we are suffocating and the mosquitos are threatening to carry us away. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f