Re: Loose stools
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com There is a product called Ration Plus which I have used with great success: Ration Plus Restores the digestive system to proper balance. Supplies Lactobacillus acidophilus, a natural prebiotic, to the digestive system where it provides vital nutrients to the beneficial bacteria found there. This helps to establish a healthy balance of digestive microflora. As balance is restored, your horse can better utilize his feed, leading to a multitude of health benefits, including weight gain, reduction of stomach upsets and diarrhea, reduction of low-grade ulcers and colic, reduction of hay belly, increased stamina and improved hoof, skin and coat quality. Each bottle is approximately an 80 day supply. A bottle cost about $27, KV vet, Vally vet, etc. Jean in Fairbanks. Alaska, +15 today and sunny, 4 hrs 27 minutes possible sunlight: gaining about 5 minutes a day! This message is from: Teresa Nick Marty teresanick.ma...@gmail.com Have any of you with this problem tried probiotics on your horses? My trainer swears by them and we have used them for our dogs in different situations. You can read all about them at www.healthyhorses.ca According to my trainer, loose stools, unless they are from worms, are almost always a sign of insufficient digestive microbes in the gut. easy solution. repopulate the gut with beneficial microbes. Check it out at www.healthyhorses.ca Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Loose stools
This message is from: Debbie LeBreton tippiegi...@hotmail.com Hi; Could you please tell me the symptoms that made you know that it was gastic olcers? Thank you Debbie From: weeg...@hotmail.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: Loose stools Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 05:01:00 + This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com I came in a bit late to the conversation here but I was wondering if you have talked w/ you vet about gastric ulcers? They are so much more common than you would think. I have a TB mare I am caring for that I rescued in November who had them. It was pretty easy to diagnose w/ her as she presented the full repetoire of symptoms w/o hesitation, unlike our more stoic Fjords. We started out by giving her Ulcer Gard paste (at a discounted rate of $28 a tube!!) The active ingredient is Omprazole (active ingredient in Prilosec for human ulcers ) and then 2 weeks into treatment we switched to a product that was donated to us by the manufacturer, Ulcer Cure OTC which has the same % of Omprazole as Ulcergard, but comes in powder form. A one month supply is $150. The only caveat is that you must store it at the correct temp, close to 77°, as the Omprazole is fairly unstable. http://ulcercureotc.com/Hope this helps, Karen in snowy Oregon :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Loose stools
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com Debbie, The horse that has the ulcers here on our farm is a thoroughbred. She was found severely injured next to the highway that bisects the upper part of our farm. Due to the meds she was on for the injuries and her body score of 2, plus her rough coat, she also ground her teeth a bit, didn't clean up all her food (or is a really slow, picky eater) and she had some colic like symptoms. As soon as we got her going on the ulcer gard she started improving. I put her on it Nov 14th and a week ago we were all out of ulcer meds. So far, so good...I hope.I know Fjords are quite a bit different and their stoic natures can often conceal what we take as symptoms in another breed of horse.Karen :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: From: tippiegi...@hotmail.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: Loose stools Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 03:19:01 + This message is from: Debbie LeBreton tippiegi...@hotmail.com Hi; Could you please tell me the symptoms that made you know that it was gastic olcers? Thank you Debbie From: weeg...@hotmail.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: Loose stools Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 05:01:00 + This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com I came in a bit late to the conversation here but I was wondering if you have talked w/ you vet about gastric ulcers? They are so much more common than you would think. I have a TB mare I am caring for that I rescued in November who had them. It was pretty easy to diagnose w/ her as she presented the full repetoire of symptoms w/o hesitation, unlike our more stoic Fjords. We started out by giving her Ulcer Gard paste (at a discounted rate of $28 a tube!!) The active ingredient is Omprazole (active ingredient in Prilosec for human ulcers ) and then 2 weeks into treatment we switched to a product that was donated to us by the manufacturer, Ulcer Cure OTC which has the same % of Omprazole as Ulcergard, but comes in powder form. A one month supply is $150. The only caveat is that you must store it at the correct temp, close to 77°, as the Omprazole is fairly unstable. http://ulcercureotc.com/Hope this helps, Karen in snowy Oregon :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Loose stools
This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com I wish it were that simple. I have used probiotics many times on horses with loose stools that do not have parasites and usually have found it to have little effect. I have a big warmblood gelding who has had a lot of problems with off and on loose stools over the past year which seem to be related to stress vs. hay changes vs. medications vs. I don't know what and although I have given him probiotics on a regular basis to try and help, it really hasn't seemed to do much. I don't think it hurts to try it because in some instances it is probably beneficial but there are a lot more causes of diarrhea in horses (and in humans) than parasites or derangement of the gut flora. Robin in Florida According to my trainer, loose stools, unless they are from worms, are almost always a sign of insufficient digestive microbes in the gut. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Loose stools
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com I came in a bit late to the conversation here but I was wondering if you have talked w/ you vet about gastric ulcers? They are so much more common than you would think. I have a TB mare I am caring for that I rescued in November who had them. It was pretty easy to diagnose w/ her as she presented the full repetoire of symptoms w/o hesitation, unlike our more stoic Fjords. We started out by giving her Ulcer Gard paste (at a discounted rate of $28 a tube!!) The active ingredient is Omprazole (active ingredient in Prilosec for human ulcers ) and then 2 weeks into treatment we switched to a product that was donated to us by the manufacturer, Ulcer Cure OTC which has the same % of Omprazole as Ulcergard, but comes in powder form. A one month supply is $150. The only caveat is that you must store it at the correct temp, close to 77°, as the Omprazole is fairly unstable. http://ulcercureotc.com/Hope this helps, Karen in snowy Oregon :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: loose stools
This message is from: Kim Manzoni kim.manz...@yahoo.com Debbie I wonder if he gave you Biosponge paste. I had my horses on Biosponge powder (made into a paste) in their feed to clear up the down the legs run. But I still have a little butt smear here and there when the weather changes. Carol I have noticed that as soon as the weather changes in the fall, I begin to battle the runny butt, gas, horrible cleaning time. Biosponge helped a lot, but did not completely cure the issue. I have them on SmartDigest as well. Not sure what its doing though if anything? Really considering the beet pulp. But also, my hay is very fine and after reading these posts I wonder if I dont need more coarse hay. I had a round bale out there for them to pick on, but my QH Toby has heaves so he had a reaction to the last round bale and I had to remove it. Interesting enough, while they were on the round bale, I noticed less water in the stool. Hmmm. Its strange how we all contemplate and take such notice of our horses poop. LOL I wonder what a psychiatrist would think of that. -Kim in MD cleaning runny butts He gave me some tubes of something and I canât recall what it was, was about 5 tubes, 1 a day, by day 3 she was pretty much normal. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Loose stools
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Friend's young Fjord had loose stools on and off for most of his life..They fed Timothy hay. When he was sent up to a trainer's for two months they fed him brome hay and he never once had loose stools while there. Go figure. However, when he got back home and eats timothy again he has not had a recurrence of any significance..Maybe his system got quieted down. Jean in very smoky Fairbanks, Alaska, wildfire in every direction , but not close to Fairbanks itself. Just the smoke. Genie, my horse Patrick had a similar problem. He didn't have loose stools but he had very runny wet gas that made a total mess of his rear end. It started July ' 04 and continued to varying degrees to this summer. Several things (Bio Sponge, probiotics, power pak worming etc.) would seems to help for a short while but the problem came right back. Finally a month ago I decided to switch hay. I bought some New York second cutting hay and within a week the problem was almost completely gone. He had been eating first cutting hay right off the field. Strangely enough he is out on nice green pasture for a couple of hours a day, five days a week and that doesn't seem to bother him. Last weekend was very, very hot and humid and for the first time in quite a few weeks the wet gassy problem came back but to a much smaller degree. As soon as the weather became cooler the problem subsided. That's my long winded way of saying, yes, I think heat and humidity may have something to do with the problem! He still does have a little excess liquid and I'm hoping that will be gone completely as the weather continues to cool. Carol 'n Patrick in a much cooler CT :)
Loose stools
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My question is: Has anyone whose Fjord suffers from runny stools noticed a correlation between the heat and the extent of water in the stool? Genie, my horse Patrick had a similar problem. He didn't have loose stools but he had very runny wet gas that made a total mess of his rear end. It started July ' 04 and continued to varying degrees to this summer. Several things (Bio Sponge, probiotics, power pak worming etc.) would seems to help for a short while but the problem came right back. Finally a month ago I decided to switch hay. I bought some New York second cutting hay and within a week the problem was almost completely gone. He had been eating first cutting hay right off the field. Strangely enough he is out on nice green pasture for a couple of hours a day, five days a week and that doesn't seem to bother him. Last weekend was very, very hot and humid and for the first time in quite a few weeks the wet gassy problem came back but to a much smaller degree. As soon as the weather became cooler the problem subsided. That's my long winded way of saying, yes, I think heat and humidity may have something to do with the problem! He still does have a little excess liquid and I'm hoping that will be gone completely as the weather continues to cool. Carol 'n Patrick in a much cooler CT :)
Re: Loose stools - question
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Fjord, Gunnar, usually has blackish round (small) stools. This summer he became too fat so I started restricting to a dry lot with small amount of last year's Eastern Washington hay morn and night. Finally turned him out in the field for a few hours at a time and his stool was brown and runny. Back in the dry lot and he was fine. What I have noticed is much more clover than we have ever had. I believe this is what is causing the runs when he is in the field. I mowed and it was better. Still having to restrict him from the fields as he remains too heavy. First time ever. Jean G. Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520
