Re: wormer suggestions

2004-09-01 Thread jerrell friz
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Hi All,
After my last posting about the tape worm cd. It occurred to me that it
might be on line, yup!  I, [not being a computer whiz] was able to get it
in about five minutes on by dial-up, it might be even more up to date than
the year old cd. So, if you want to do your horse a big favor,  take a
look at the Pfizer web, you will have to work your way through it...ohh,  I
don't work for Pfizer, only mentioning it for your equine, what ever it
might be
Regards,
Jerry Friz,  Ca..



Re: wormer suggestions

2004-09-01 Thread Tamara Rousso

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You are right Jerry -  I don't know a thing about tape worms.  Good 
thing you put your two cents in.  I was speaking of the other 
varieties.  Thanks for clarifying.


tamara

On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 04:31 PM, jerrell friz wrote:


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Tamara wrote

  First get his stools

tested to find out what kind of worm load you are up against.

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Hey Tamara,  better check with your vet.  testing for tapeworms  using
stool samples, don't think so,  blood test only.

If you take the time to view the cd-rom that I previously 
mentioned,, I

believe you might have another opinion.

Regards,
Jerry Friz,
Anderson, Ca.




RE: wormer suggestions

2004-08-31 Thread jerrell friz
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 is there a wormer out there that is considered less toxic than the
standards, 
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Answering Laurie's question.   there sure is,  Called Herbal Tonic, by
Dynamite , you can go to  www.dynamiteonline.com  look in horse products.. 
I use  it every two months on my dogs, cats, horses.  I have a 22 year old
Aussie[  yup!  22,],, hard to believe.   Never been vaccinated.

  There are only a few wormers that will kill the tapeworm.  One is
Equimax,  I use this one when I have to,,I too,, try not to use a product
with ivermectin in it.  I do NOT use any product by FORT DODGE !!!
  
Also Pfizer has a cd-rom  [free] called the parasite puzzle [got mine at
the local feed store]. I  HIGHLY recommend viewing this, it addresses the
tapeworm,now that new research is out on the tapeworm.  A  former
client of mine lost her mare from tapes, she paid over 8k in vet. bills. 
My daughter was lucky, she still has her gelding, but, after 10k in vet.
bills, again,, suspect,,, tapeworms.   The only way to diagnose tapes is
with a new blood test. Eggs are carried through a host mite in the grass.

I suspect that the tapeworms  cause ulcers deep down in the digestive
system,  this is where ivermectin can get into the blood.

Hope this helps,
Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca.



Re: wormer suggestions

2004-08-31 Thread Tamara Rousso

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Laurie -

[Disclaimer:  My opinion and herd practice management style.  Not 
intended to be taken as the only way to do it.]  First get his stools 
tested to find out what kind of worm load you are up against.  It is 
usually only about $10.  If it is significant I would say you need the 
big guns (i.e. chemical wormers).  When his worm load is under control 
that is the time to switch to herbal wormers.  The herbals do a better 
job of discouraging worms as opposed to eradicating them.  You can find 
several equine herbal wormers by doing a Google for it.  I have had 
really good luck with Molly's Herbals at www.fiascofarm.com .


Tamara

On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 08:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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oz has a sore under his tail, which someone at the barn he's boarding 
at this
week suggested may be caused by worms. perhaps they are causing the 
tail
rubbing? it seems to be getting better, but was pretty raw looking 
when i found it

sunday.

is there a wormer out there that is considered less toxic than the 
standards,
ivermectin and such? i dislike putting so much poison into my horse, 
but know
that the alternative (worms) is not a good thing either. the woman i 
took
lessons from when i first got a horse three years ago is very much 
into natural
methods and treatments and tells me she believes ivermectin to be very 
hard on

horses.

any suggestions?

thanks in advance
laurie
central minnesota




wormer suggestions

2004-08-31 Thread CrystalZak
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oz has a sore under his tail, which someone at the barn he's boarding at this 
week suggested may be caused by worms. perhaps they are causing the tail 
rubbing? it seems to be getting better, but was pretty raw looking when i found 
it 
sunday.

is there a wormer out there that is considered less toxic than the standards, 
ivermectin and such? i dislike putting so much poison into my horse, but know 
that the alternative (worms) is not a good thing either. the woman i took 
lessons from when i first got a horse three years ago is very much into natural 
methods and treatments and tells me she believes ivermectin to be very hard on 
horses.

any suggestions?

thanks in advance
laurie
central minnesota