Re: [Flashcoders] using graphics from flash 8 with flex 2 sdk
Thanks, Jan and Glen :-) Even embedding each symbol separately is great. Yesterday I've just (mistakenly) supposed to access "internal" clips by their names, as we did in AS2... Obviously it's not possible. Just out of curiosity: if we access them via getChildAt() , do you think there's some relation between clip's position/layer/name/etc in "container mc" (in Flash 8 IDE) and the position in "child list" (idx variable in Glen's code below)? Glen Pike wrote: > >I have managed to access movie clips inside an embedded symbol, but > purely to manipulate them as movieclips. > >To avoid confusion - I have no code inside the SWF file I am > embedding, I am merely using Flash 8 IDE to author graphical symbols & > animations which I embed individually. Some of these clips have nested > clips too. > >Here is an example: > >//Embed the symbol Block, which has a number of clips inside it. >[Embed (source = "../resources/graphics.swf", symbol="Block")] >private var Block:Class; > >//... > >//Create an instance of a Block >_block:MovieClip = new Block() as MovieClip; >//Loop through and "stop" all the child clips using the child access > methods of AS3 >var children:int = _block.numChildren; >for (var idx:int = 0; idx < children;idx++ ) { > var child:MovieClip = _block.getChildAt(idx) as MovieClip; > child.stop(); >} > > > >//Later in the code, do collision detection on each child clip in > the Block and manipulate it as a movieclip. >function hitTestBlock(block:MovieClip, ball:Sprite) { >var children:int = block.numChildren; >for (var idx:int = 0; idx < children;idx++ ) { > var child:MovieClip = block.getChildAt(idx) as MovieClip; > if(child.hitTestObject(ball)) { > child.nextFrame(); > //optimise for speed by removing clips that are "dead". > if(child.totalFrames == child.currentFrame) { > block.removeChild(child); > } > return true; > } > } > return false; >} > > > >HTH > >Glen > > > Ian Thomas wrote: > >> I can just embed one "container" mc symbol ? > > > In short, I don't know - never tried using the container mc idea. > > > > Thinking about it, though, I suspect that you won't be able to access > the > > subclips via new MySubClipSymbolID(); however, if you instantiate the > > containing clip (new MyTopLevelSymbolID() or whatever) you may be able > to > > access the children via getChildAt() etc. > > > > That's probably not a hugely useful thing to be able to do, though. > > > > I'm guessing it's most useful to embed each symbol. > > > -- -- Best regards, GregoryN http://GOusable.com Flash components development. Usability services. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] osX - ActionScript Editor
Try FlashDevelop. It has a very nice auto-completion. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Karim Beyrouti Verzonden: donderdag 17 januari 2008 14:20 Aan: 'Flash Coders List' Onderwerp: [Flashcoders] osX - ActionScript Editor Hi All, I know this is an old topic. I am looking for a good As2 ( and maybe As3 ) editor for OS-X. for the moment I have found these: http://macromates.com/ - which has not got great reviews. http://www.jedit.org/ - I have tried SEPY but was unable to get it working. Am I missing anything?... do you have any good recommendations? regards Karim ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: 17-1-2008 16:59 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: 17-1-2008 16:59 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 18-1-2008 19:32 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list take?
Thanks for the comments Eric... When writing code I was thinking more on the lines of this: current Coding: var myelement1 = new Element myelement1.alpha = 0; addChild(myelement1); var myelement2 = new Element myelement2.alpha = 0; addChild(myelement2); var myelement3 = new Element myelement3.alpha = 0; addChild(myelement3); var myelement4 = new Element myelement4.alpha = 0; addChild(myelement4); new Idea of coding: private function initElements() : void { var myelement1 = new Element; var myelement2 = new Element; var myelement3 = new Element; var myelement4 = new Element; } private function addToDisplay: void { addChild(myelement1); addChild(myelement2); addChild(myelement3); addChild(myelement4); } during the application controling the "view" of each elment with alpha rather than adding them or removing them from the displaylist element1.alpha = 0 element2.alpha = 1 With the second idea when some one looks at the application it might be easier for some one to read it than the first option... On 1/18/08, eric e. dolecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i believe you can remove children from the displayList without destroying > them... which is better than using alpha or visible because alpha and > visibility are still on the as2 "display list" eventhough you cant see em. > > On Jan 18, 2008 5:39 PM, Helmut Granda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I was wondering if anyone knows how much memory any object that is added > > to > > the display list take... for example I have 4 main elements that I need > > during the time the application is running, this 4 main elements contain > > many children so at the time I am adding and deleting items to the > display > > list as needed (addChild). but to make my application more readable I > was > > wondering if I could just have a function that instantiate all the > objects > > and a second method that adds all the elements i need to the display > list > > and then control the elements with the alpha or visible property. > > > > TIA > > > > -- > > ...helmut > > ___ > > Flashcoders mailing list > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > -- ...helmut ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] osX - ActionScript Editor
I really really liked eclipse - for the moment I am using ASDT ( for AS2 project ), and will get FDT as that seems better. However, I cannot find the shortcut to toggle code folding for branches. I have found the keys, customization in Eclipse, but can't get it to work? Any ideas..? Thanks for the suggestions. - karim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 January 2008 13:40 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] osX - ActionScript Editor Eclipse with FDT good luck, Elia - Original Message - From: "Karim Beyrouti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Flash Coders List'" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:20 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] osX - ActionScript Editor > Hi All, I know this is an old topic. I am looking for a good As2 ( and > maybe As3 ) editor for OS-X. for the moment I have found these: > > http://macromates.com/ - which has not got great reviews. > http://www.jedit.org/ - > > I have tried SEPY but was unable to get it working. > > Am I missing anything?... do you have any good recommendations? > > > regards > > > Karim > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: 17/01/2008 16:59 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 18/01/2008 19:32 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list take?
Helmut, I think you are finding yourself a tricky way of building applications. If you can give us an idea of what you're trying to build I'm sure we can chime in with a lot of good ideas that will be easier than your current route. For example if you attach elements to a movieclip, you can control panel displays by moving/hiding the movieclip to which they are attached, rather than have to mess around with every individual element. Paul - Original Message - From: "Helmut Granda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list take? Thanks for the comments Eric... When writing code I was thinking more on the lines of this: current Coding: var myelement1 = new Element myelement1.alpha = 0; snip ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list take?
Hi Paul, I am building an application with 4 main elements that talk to each other during the life of the application, each element contains several elements that vary from 10 to maybe 100. As I am writing this application I am trying to write it with the idea that in the future when I need to make updates I could see clearly what is going on or if some one else picks up this application they are able to understand it. often we pick/develop applications that only we can understand add that AS3 and you have a lot of spaghetti code that is passed around from developer to developer and few years later the applications have to be rewritten because there was not a basic structure followed since the beginning. In the end it might be just a personal code style rather than a software developer question... thanks for chiming in. On 1/19/08, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Helmut, I think you are finding yourself a tricky way of building > applications. > > If you can give us an idea of what you're trying to build I'm sure we can > chime in with a lot of good ideas that will be easier than your current > route. > > For example if you attach elements to a movieclip, you can control panel > displays by moving/hiding the movieclip to which they are attached, rather > than have to mess around with every individual element. > > Paul > > - Original Message - > From: "Helmut Granda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Flash Coders List" > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list > take? > > > > Thanks for the comments Eric... When writing code I was thinking more on > > the > > lines of this: > > > > current Coding: > > > > var myelement1 = new Element > > myelement1.alpha = 0; > > snip > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > -- ...helmut ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list take?
Well, it sounds as though each of these elements should be on separate movie clips each with elements attached. Extract as much functionality into separate classes and put as little actionscript onto the timeline as you can. You can switch between the main elements by hopping to different frames on the timeline. Try and look at a few Flash application examples, particularly flash frameworks (just google flash frameworks) that will help structure your code if you follow them. It also sounds like an application rather than a game or eye candy. I know this is a flash list, but Flex is better suited to this kind of development. Paul - Original Message - From: "Helmut Granda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list take? Hi Paul, I am building an application with 4 main elements that talk to each other during the life of the application, each element contains several elements that vary from 10 to maybe 100. As I am writing this application I am trying to write it with the idea that in the future when I need to make updates I could see clearly what is going on or if some one else picks up this application they are able to understand it. often we pick/develop applications that only we can understand add that AS3 and you have a lot of spaghetti code that is passed around from developer to developer and few years later the applications have to be rewritten because there was not a basic structure followed since the beginning. In the end it might be just a personal code style rather than a software developer question... thanks for chiming in. On 1/19/08, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Helmut, I think you are finding yourself a tricky way of building applications. If you can give us an idea of what you're trying to build I'm sure we can chime in with a lot of good ideas that will be easier than your current route. For example if you attach elements to a movieclip, you can control panel displays by moving/hiding the movieclip to which they are attached, rather than have to mess around with every individual element. Paul - Original Message - From: "Helmut Granda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list take? > Thanks for the comments Eric... When writing code I was thinking more > on > the > lines of this: > > current Coding: > > var myelement1 = new Element > myelement1.alpha = 0; snip ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- ...helmut ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list take?
Thanks for the comments Paul... in fact this application is timeline independent, I am using flash for 2 purposes, 1 to add items to the library and 2 to compile the movie. The reason why I couldnt go the Flex route is because first I dont know Flex enough to develop something like this in there and second the app is very eye candy. Sorry I can share more info or show some screen shots but its one of those things that you cant discuss openly until is out.. thanks again... On 1/19/08, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, it sounds as though each of these elements should be on separate > movie > clips each with elements attached. Extract as much functionality into > separate classes and put as little actionscript onto the timeline as you > can. You can switch between the main elements by hopping to different > frames > on the timeline. Try and look at a few Flash application examples, > particularly flash frameworks (just google flash frameworks) that will > help > structure your code if you follow them. > > It also sounds like an application rather than a game or eye candy. I know > this is a flash list, but Flex is better suited to this kind of > development. > > Paul > - Original Message - > From: "Helmut Granda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Flash Coders List" > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list > take? > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > I am building an application with 4 main elements that talk to each > other > > during the life of the application, each element contains several > elements > > that vary from 10 to maybe 100. > > > > As I am writing this application I am trying to write it with the idea > > that > > in the future when I need to make updates I could see clearly what is > > going > > on or if some one else picks up this application they are able to > > understand > > it. often we pick/develop applications that only we can understand add > > that > > AS3 and you have a lot of spaghetti code that is passed around from > > developer to developer and few years later the applications have to be > > rewritten because there was not a basic structure followed since the > > beginning. > > > > In the end it might be just a personal code style rather than a software > > developer question... thanks for chiming in. > > > > On 1/19/08, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Helmut, I think you are finding yourself a tricky way of building > >> applications. > >> > >> If you can give us an idea of what you're trying to build I'm sure we > can > >> chime in with a lot of good ideas that will be easier than your current > >> route. > >> > >> For example if you attach elements to a movieclip, you can control > panel > >> displays by moving/hiding the movieclip to which they are attached, > >> rather > >> than have to mess around with every individual element. > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Helmut Granda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "Flash Coders List" > >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:07 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list > >> take? > >> > >> > >> > Thanks for the comments Eric... When writing code I was thinking more > >> > on > >> > the > >> > lines of this: > >> > > >> > current Coding: > >> > > >> > var myelement1 = new Element > >> > myelement1.alpha = 0; > >> > >> snip > >> > >> ___ > >> Flashcoders mailing list > >> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ...helmut > > ___ > > Flashcoders mailing list > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > -- ...helmut ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list take?
On Jan 19, 2008 2:43 PM, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can. You can switch between the main elements by hopping to different frames > on the timeline. I know this was a common AS2 technique, but is that true of AS3? I thought that the timeline was kind of out the window (except for true frames-over-time actions within individual MC's) with AS3. And just to be clear, I'm not asking to be critical, but rather because I'm in the middle of trying to wrap my AS2-mind around AS3 :) .m ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list take?
- Original Message - From: "Matt S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list take? On Jan 19, 2008 2:43 PM, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: can. You can switch between the main elements by hopping to different frames on the timeline. I know this was a common AS2 technique, but is that true of AS3? I thought that the timeline was kind of out the window (except for true frames-over-time actions within individual MC's) with AS3. And just to be clear, I'm not asking to be critical, but rather because I'm in the middle of trying to wrap my AS2-mind around AS3 :) I do virtually all my AS3 coding using Flex, with no timeline, but often using the layout containers and other features that I don't think are in Flash CS3. I have developed using Flash AS1/2 without using the timeline, but usually using a hybrid - small animations using the time line but contained in MovieClips, loaded and controlled from actionscript in a main movie only having actionscript on one frame (to kick off) - sometimes in classes, sometimes not. Yes, you're right about my suggestion being a common AS2 technique, but I thought it's an easier approach for Helmut rather than the full blown thing. I don't think that using AS3 necessarilly means abandoning all flash techniques from the past. Paul .m ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How much memory elements on the display list take?
Hi Matt, You can use the timeline if you like and still develop a project with AS3 the similar way as you would do with AS2. You have your library, your timeline your tweens... it is just a matter of the process on what you are working on. I hope this doesn't confuse you more! :) On 1/19/08, Matt S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 19, 2008 2:43 PM, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > can. You can switch between the main elements by hopping to different > frames > > on the timeline. > > I know this was a common AS2 technique, but is that true of AS3? I > thought that the timeline was kind of out the window (except for true > frames-over-time actions within individual MC's) with AS3. And just to > be clear, I'm not asking to be critical, but rather because I'm in the > middle of trying to wrap my AS2-mind around AS3 :) > > .m > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > -- ...helmut ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders