Re: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams...
I'd second Ron's recommendation there... Ian On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com wrote: Head First Design Patterns is very easy to pick up. No typos, lots and lots of pictures, illustrations and code examples. http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/?CMP=AFC-ak_bookATT=Head+First+Design+Patterns http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfdp/ for a quick overview and a typical illustration http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/toc.pdf Read the section on the Observer Pattern. It might be what you are looking for. Merrill, Jason wrote: I think just a quick answer to your questions which may help a lot is to check into understanding MVC - the Model-View-Controller design pattern. Probably one of the most common pattern used and one that other coding design frameworks use as well for part of their operations. So there are also frameworks like Cairngorm which takes MVC and other patterns together and go a lot further, it has things like Commands to facilitate communication. But simple MVC using event listeners and dispatchers is probably the best place to start to get what you want to do going. Jason Merrill Bank of America Instructional Technology Media · GCIB Staff Support LLD Interested in Flash Platform technologies? Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the Innovative Learning Blog and subscribe. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Pace Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:48 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams... I am looking to get more info on the composition of design patterns and which ones are used most often in the corporate world. Diagrams accompanied by code examples would be awesome. I have been able to find stuff in the past; yet, I really want to know what is generally preferred? I like to try and make things black box; however, it just seems illogical that things be black boxes all the time. when a person talks to another person the environment that they are in has to facilitate the communication; thus, if I have two objects instantiated in the same class and I want them to communicate with each other, I have to have a function in the main class or somewhere globally that allows those objects to communicate. How do I accomplish this without calling to the function in the parent? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
I have figured out how to make flash work as a multi-touch system... I am coding it now... it is so darn simple... it just came to me after watching a video on how to make your own multi-touch input device using a webcam a piece of white paper and a box to block most of the light so the cam only sees light and dark. Since it is all based on blobs, and processing the image through a filter to break down the logic, and flash has access to web cams, I can just convert the image to black and white, threshold the image to find the blobs, average out a hit test area based on the finger positions, and all that would come after is putting together the finger gesturing logic. for instance if two blobs exist around their averaged points and have not moved too much or at all, yet there is a third blob that is moving a significant amount, perform a specific function based on its direction (directional logic through tracking input fed into basic physics equations and Pythagorean concepts) If someone has beaten me to it, I would love to know; however, if you beat me to it, after reading my post, tell me about it and show me your source so my life is made easier. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
Hi, Mario Klingemann demo'd something like this at FlashOnTheBeach 2007 - have a look at quasimondo.com to see the 2D or not 2D lecture - not sure if he released any code though? http://lectures.quasimondo.com/ Glen Anthony Pace wrote: I have figured out how to make flash work as a multi-touch system... I am coding it now... it is so darn simple... it just came to me after watching a video on how to make your own multi-touch input device using a webcam a piece of white paper and a box to block most of the light so the cam only sees light and dark. Since it is all based on blobs, and processing the image through a filter to break down the logic, and flash has access to web cams, I can just convert the image to black and white, threshold the image to find the blobs, average out a hit test area based on the finger positions, and all that would come after is putting together the finger gesturing logic. for instance if two blobs exist around their averaged points and have not moved too much or at all, yet there is a third blob that is moving a significant amount, perform a specific function based on its direction (directional logic through tracking input fed into basic physics equations and Pythagorean concepts) If someone has beaten me to it, I would love to know; however, if you beat me to it, after reading my post, tell me about it and show me your source so my life is made easier. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
I was actually thinking of Mario's lecture at FoTB 2008 where he used very similar algorithms to read square barcodes (whatever those things are called) from a webcam. Not multitouch, but there's a lot of similar code (spotting areas of colour, eliminating noise). Worth a look, Anthony. Funnily enough we were talking about exactly the same system for multitouch here yesterday - spotting areas of colour. One of our developers had seen some demo of a similar system on TV over the weekend... Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Hi, Mario Klingemann demo'd something like this at FlashOnTheBeach 2007 - have a look at quasimondo.com to see the 2D or not 2D lecture - not sure if he released any code though? http://lectures.quasimondo.com/ Glen Anthony Pace wrote: I have figured out how to make flash work as a multi-touch system... I am coding it now... it is so darn simple... it just came to me after watching a video on how to make your own multi-touch input device using a webcam a piece of white paper and a box to block most of the light so the cam only sees light and dark. Since it is all based on blobs, and processing the image through a filter to break down the logic, and flash has access to web cams, I can just convert the image to black and white, threshold the image to find the blobs, average out a hit test area based on the finger positions, and all that would come after is putting together the finger gesturing logic. for instance if two blobs exist around their averaged points and have not moved too much or at all, yet there is a third blob that is moving a significant amount, perform a specific function based on its direction (directional logic through tracking input fed into basic physics equations and Pythagorean concepts) If someone has beaten me to it, I would love to know; however, if you beat me to it, after reading my post, tell me about it and show me your source so my life is made easier. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] NativeMenuItem keyModifier with function key (AIR)
Hi Zeh, Maybe these resources can help you? http://livedocs.adobe.com/air/1/devappsflex/dev_guide_flex.pdf “Using multi-platform key equivalent menu commands” in the PDF on page 57 (64 in PDF) http://extjs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41615 This one is for JS but it can help you Hope this helps you, Sid On Jan 8, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Zeh Fernando wrote: Hey list, Do people here work with AIR? Or is there any better-aligned mailing list? Anyway. I'm using AIR 1.5's NativeMenuItem's .keyEquivalent and .keyEquivalentModifier. That feature is pretty cool and works like this: var item:NativeMenuItem = new NativeMenuItem(Do Whatever); item.keyEquivalent = d; item.keyEquivalentModifiers = [Keyboard.CONTROL]; Then when the user presses CTRL+D, the menu item is executed. (More information at http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/help.html?content=Menus_2.html) I'm having a problem setting the .keyEquivalent, though. It accepts strings, so you can't set them to things like Enter, Tab, Del, F1, etc. You can try doing this: var item:NativeMenuItem = new NativeMenuItem(Do Whatever); item.keyEquivalent = F1; item.keyEquivalentModifiers = [Keyboard.CONTROL]; And then, funny enough, the menu item will display CTRL+F1 as the shortcut; but it won't work. The actual shortcut will be CTRL+F - that is, it only takes the first character of the string as the activation key (!). The documentation seems to completely ignore the problem, very briefly mentioning that .keyEquivalent accepts a string. In fact, you can write *anything* as the .keyEquivalent and it'll be shown there on the menu, but only the first char matters. I tried a lot of different things, like adding Keyboard.F1 to the keyEquivalentModifiers array, using Keyboard.F1's key code as a keyEquivalent char, using AIR's new .STRING_F1 or KEYNAME_F1 constants, and things like that. Nothing seems to work though. Has somebody ran into that and found a solution that works? Or am I imagining things? It seems odd to me that I'm able to create a menu in Flash which responds to F1 while I can't do that in AIR using its (great) native menus. Of course I can always add the shortcuts as some keyboard event listener hidden somewhere, but it'd be less than optimal (and wouldn't display the shortcut on the menu). Thanks, Zeh ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] NativeMenuItem keyModifier with function key (AIR)
Oh one more link for you: Function key can't be used as keyEquivalents http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-17901 Good luck, Sid On Jan 8, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Zeh Fernando wrote: Hey list, Do people here work with AIR? Or is there any better-aligned mailing list? Anyway. I'm using AIR 1.5's NativeMenuItem's .keyEquivalent and .keyEquivalentModifier. That feature is pretty cool and works like this: var item:NativeMenuItem = new NativeMenuItem(Do Whatever); item.keyEquivalent = d; item.keyEquivalentModifiers = [Keyboard.CONTROL]; Then when the user presses CTRL+D, the menu item is executed. (More information at http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/help.html?content=Menus_2.html) I'm having a problem setting the .keyEquivalent, though. It accepts strings, so you can't set them to things like Enter, Tab, Del, F1, etc. You can try doing this: var item:NativeMenuItem = new NativeMenuItem(Do Whatever); item.keyEquivalent = F1; item.keyEquivalentModifiers = [Keyboard.CONTROL]; And then, funny enough, the menu item will display CTRL+F1 as the shortcut; but it won't work. The actual shortcut will be CTRL+F - that is, it only takes the first character of the string as the activation key (!). The documentation seems to completely ignore the problem, very briefly mentioning that .keyEquivalent accepts a string. In fact, you can write *anything* as the .keyEquivalent and it'll be shown there on the menu, but only the first char matters. I tried a lot of different things, like adding Keyboard.F1 to the keyEquivalentModifiers array, using Keyboard.F1's key code as a keyEquivalent char, using AIR's new .STRING_F1 or KEYNAME_F1 constants, and things like that. Nothing seems to work though. Has somebody ran into that and found a solution that works? Or am I imagining things? It seems odd to me that I'm able to create a menu in Flash which responds to F1 while I can't do that in AIR using its (great) native menus. Of course I can always add the shortcuts as some keyboard event listener hidden somewhere, but it'd be less than optimal (and wouldn't display the shortcut on the menu). Thanks, Zeh ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams...
It's a good book. Although I go back and forth between books I own the following books and they have benefited me in this order: 1. ActionScript3 with Design Patterns - isbn: 0-321-42656-8 - Adobe Press Joey Lott and Danny Patterson Joint 2. Head First Design Patterns - O'Reilly - isbn: 0-596-00712-4 Freeman Freeman. Uses Java. Joint 2. Design Patterns - Addison Wesley - isbn:13 978-0-201-63361-0 By the gang of four. Uses C++ - similar to AS3. 4. ActionScript3.0 Design Patterns - isbn-13: 978-0-596-52846-1 - O'Reilly William Sanders and Chahndima Cumaranatunge 5. Object-Oriented ActionScript 3.0 - isbn-13: 978-1-59059-845-0 -friends of Ed Peter Elst, Sas Jacobs and Todd yard. More on OOP than Design Patterns. On http://www.dofactory.com/Patterns/Patterns.aspx you can find patterns here but the code they sell is for c# and/or VB. I suspect these really are in use by companies. John Are you talking about the Joey Lott book on AS3 design patterns? Just curious as I was thinking of picking that one up. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
To my knowledge all flash integration for multi-touch has been made possible by using flosc by ben chun, or with OpenCV and touchLib; however, what I am proposing is that it is possible directly through the use of the flash player and a simple cam rig. I think that it should be possible, and at least somewhat comparably fast, considering the player doesn't have to parse xml socket data on a continuous basis, and all image conversions are done by the player. I do concede that doing in c++ will most likely prove to be faster; however, I figure why not try it out. Since I know c++ somewhat I figure I will probably look at their libraries if I get stuck; yet, in the meanwhile, this is a nifty experiment. Here is the video that sparked it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpr3W-YmcQ Colour tracking would be efficient in a system where you have multi coloured thimbles or reflective tape, which is what I was thinking of when I came up with this idea. http://anthony-pace.deviantart.com/art/add-VR-to-current-FPS-GAMES-91091960 Ian Thomas wrote: I was actually thinking of Mario's lecture at FoTB 2008 where he used very similar algorithms to read square barcodes (whatever those things are called) from a webcam. Not multitouch, but there's a lot of similar code (spotting areas of colour, eliminating noise). Worth a look, Anthony. Funnily enough we were talking about exactly the same system for multitouch here yesterday - spotting areas of colour. One of our developers had seen some demo of a similar system on TV over the weekend... Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Hi, Mario Klingemann demo'd something like this at FlashOnTheBeach 2007 - have a look at quasimondo.com to see the 2D or not 2D lecture - not sure if he released any code though? http://lectures.quasimondo.com/ Glen Anthony Pace wrote: I have figured out how to make flash work as a multi-touch system... I am coding it now... it is so darn simple... it just came to me after watching a video on how to make your own multi-touch input device using a webcam a piece of white paper and a box to block most of the light so the cam only sees light and dark. Since it is all based on blobs, and processing the image through a filter to break down the logic, and flash has access to web cams, I can just convert the image to black and white, threshold the image to find the blobs, average out a hit test area based on the finger positions, and all that would come after is putting together the finger gesturing logic. for instance if two blobs exist around their averaged points and have not moved too much or at all, yet there is a third blob that is moving a significant amount, perform a specific function based on its direction (directional logic through tracking input fed into basic physics equations and Pythagorean concepts) If someone has beaten me to it, I would love to know; however, if you beat me to it, after reading my post, tell me about it and show me your source so my life is made easier. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
Yeah, I absolutely get the idea (as I said, we were discussing it yesterday - with reference to an infra-red camera, but same principle). Check out Mario's stuff, there are areas-of-colour recognition algorithms there which will be of help, I think. Cheers, Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: To my knowledge all flash integration for multi-touch has been made possible by using flosc by ben chun, or with OpenCV and touchLib; however, what I am proposing is that it is possible directly through the use of the flash player and a simple cam rig. I think that it should be possible, and at least somewhat comparably fast, considering the player doesn't have to parse xml socket data on a continuous basis, and all image conversions are done by the player. I do concede that doing in c++ will most likely prove to be faster; however, I figure why not try it out. Since I know c++ somewhat I figure I will probably look at their libraries if I get stuck; yet, in the meanwhile, this is a nifty experiment. Here is the video that sparked it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpr3W-YmcQ Colour tracking would be efficient in a system where you have multi coloured thimbles or reflective tape, which is what I was thinking of when I came up with this idea. http://anthony-pace.deviantart.com/art/add-VR-to-current-FPS-GAMES-91091960 Ian Thomas wrote: I was actually thinking of Mario's lecture at FoTB 2008 where he used very similar algorithms to read square barcodes (whatever those things are called) from a webcam. Not multitouch, but there's a lot of similar code (spotting areas of colour, eliminating noise). Worth a look, Anthony. Funnily enough we were talking about exactly the same system for multitouch here yesterday - spotting areas of colour. One of our developers had seen some demo of a similar system on TV over the weekend... Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Hi, Mario Klingemann demo'd something like this at FlashOnTheBeach 2007 - have a look at quasimondo.com to see the 2D or not 2D lecture - not sure if he released any code though? http://lectures.quasimondo.com/ Glen Anthony Pace wrote: I have figured out how to make flash work as a multi-touch system... I am coding it now... it is so darn simple... it just came to me after watching a video on how to make your own multi-touch input device using a webcam a piece of white paper and a box to block most of the light so the cam only sees light and dark. Since it is all based on blobs, and processing the image through a filter to break down the logic, and flash has access to web cams, I can just convert the image to black and white, threshold the image to find the blobs, average out a hit test area based on the finger positions, and all that would come after is putting together the finger gesturing logic. for instance if two blobs exist around their averaged points and have not moved too much or at all, yet there is a third blob that is moving a significant amount, perform a specific function based on its direction (directional logic through tracking input fed into basic physics equations and Pythagorean concepts) If someone has beaten me to it, I would love to know; however, if you beat me to it, after reading my post, tell me about it and show me your source so my life is made easier. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
That's a great tip. :-) Pocket change? Definitely not... we're not made of money either! Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: thanks for the tip... I think IR is definitely the way to go; yet, you can just open up a web cam, and replace its filter with a piece of blank exposed negative... saves you from actually having to buy an IR camera. For me purchasing new equipment is not an option; yet, for you it might be pocket change. http://www.instructables.com/id/Infrared-IR-Webcam/ Ian Thomas wrote: Yeah, I absolutely get the idea (as I said, we were discussing it yesterday - with reference to an infra-red camera, but same principle). Check out Mario's stuff, there are areas-of-colour recognition algorithms there which will be of help, I think. Cheers, Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: To my knowledge all flash integration for multi-touch has been made possible by using flosc by ben chun, or with OpenCV and touchLib; however, what I am proposing is that it is possible directly through the use of the flash player and a simple cam rig. I think that it should be possible, and at least somewhat comparably fast, considering the player doesn't have to parse xml socket data on a continuous basis, and all image conversions are done by the player. I do concede that doing in c++ will most likely prove to be faster; however, I figure why not try it out. Since I know c++ somewhat I figure I will probably look at their libraries if I get stuck; yet, in the meanwhile, this is a nifty experiment. Here is the video that sparked it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpr3W-YmcQ Colour tracking would be efficient in a system where you have multi coloured thimbles or reflective tape, which is what I was thinking of when I came up with this idea. http://anthony-pace.deviantart.com/art/add-VR-to-current-FPS-GAMES-91091960 Ian Thomas wrote: I was actually thinking of Mario's lecture at FoTB 2008 where he used very similar algorithms to read square barcodes (whatever those things are called) from a webcam. Not multitouch, but there's a lot of similar code (spotting areas of colour, eliminating noise). Worth a look, Anthony. Funnily enough we were talking about exactly the same system for multitouch here yesterday - spotting areas of colour. One of our developers had seen some demo of a similar system on TV over the weekend... Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Hi, Mario Klingemann demo'd something like this at FlashOnTheBeach 2007 - have a look at quasimondo.com to see the 2D or not 2D lecture - not sure if he released any code though? http://lectures.quasimondo.com/ Glen Anthony Pace wrote: I have figured out how to make flash work as a multi-touch system... I am coding it now... it is so darn simple... it just came to me after watching a video on how to make your own multi-touch input device using a webcam a piece of white paper and a box to block most of the light so the cam only sees light and dark. Since it is all based on blobs, and processing the image through a filter to break down the logic, and flash has access to web cams, I can just convert the image to black and white, threshold the image to find the blobs, average out a hit test area based on the finger positions, and all that would come after is putting together the finger gesturing logic. for instance if two blobs exist around their averaged points and have not moved too much or at all, yet there is a third blob that is moving a significant amount, perform a specific function based on its direction (directional logic through tracking input fed into basic physics equations and Pythagorean concepts) If someone has beaten me to it, I would love to know; however, if you beat me to it, after reading my post, tell me about it and show me your source so my life is made easier. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
thanks for the tip... I think IR is definitely the way to go; yet, you can just open up a web cam, and replace its filter with a piece of blank exposed negative... saves you from actually having to buy an IR camera. For me purchasing new equipment is not an option; yet, for you it might be pocket change. http://www.instructables.com/id/Infrared-IR-Webcam/ Ian Thomas wrote: Yeah, I absolutely get the idea (as I said, we were discussing it yesterday - with reference to an infra-red camera, but same principle). Check out Mario's stuff, there are areas-of-colour recognition algorithms there which will be of help, I think. Cheers, Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: To my knowledge all flash integration for multi-touch has been made possible by using flosc by ben chun, or with OpenCV and touchLib; however, what I am proposing is that it is possible directly through the use of the flash player and a simple cam rig. I think that it should be possible, and at least somewhat comparably fast, considering the player doesn't have to parse xml socket data on a continuous basis, and all image conversions are done by the player. I do concede that doing in c++ will most likely prove to be faster; however, I figure why not try it out. Since I know c++ somewhat I figure I will probably look at their libraries if I get stuck; yet, in the meanwhile, this is a nifty experiment. Here is the video that sparked it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpr3W-YmcQ Colour tracking would be efficient in a system where you have multi coloured thimbles or reflective tape, which is what I was thinking of when I came up with this idea. http://anthony-pace.deviantart.com/art/add-VR-to-current-FPS-GAMES-91091960 Ian Thomas wrote: I was actually thinking of Mario's lecture at FoTB 2008 where he used very similar algorithms to read square barcodes (whatever those things are called) from a webcam. Not multitouch, but there's a lot of similar code (spotting areas of colour, eliminating noise). Worth a look, Anthony. Funnily enough we were talking about exactly the same system for multitouch here yesterday - spotting areas of colour. One of our developers had seen some demo of a similar system on TV over the weekend... Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Hi, Mario Klingemann demo'd something like this at FlashOnTheBeach 2007 - have a look at quasimondo.com to see the 2D or not 2D lecture - not sure if he released any code though? http://lectures.quasimondo.com/ Glen Anthony Pace wrote: I have figured out how to make flash work as a multi-touch system... I am coding it now... it is so darn simple... it just came to me after watching a video on how to make your own multi-touch input device using a webcam a piece of white paper and a box to block most of the light so the cam only sees light and dark. Since it is all based on blobs, and processing the image through a filter to break down the logic, and flash has access to web cams, I can just convert the image to black and white, threshold the image to find the blobs, average out a hit test area based on the finger positions, and all that would come after is putting together the finger gesturing logic. for instance if two blobs exist around their averaged points and have not moved too much or at all, yet there is a third blob that is moving a significant amount, perform a specific function based on its direction (directional logic through tracking input fed into basic physics equations and Pythagorean concepts) If someone has beaten me to it, I would love to know; however, if you beat me to it, after reading my post, tell me about it and show me your source so my life is made easier. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
There's good stuff by Grant Skinner too: http://incomplet.gskinner.com/index2.html#camwriter Piers On 8 Jan 2009, at 10:35, Ian Thomas wrote: Yeah, I absolutely get the idea (as I said, we were discussing it yesterday - with reference to an infra-red camera, but same principle). Check out Mario's stuff, there are areas-of-colour recognition algorithms there which will be of help, I think. Cheers, Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: To my knowledge all flash integration for multi-touch has been made possible by using flosc by ben chun, or with OpenCV and touchLib; however, what I am proposing is that it is possible directly through the use of the flash player and a simple cam rig. I think that it should be possible, and at least somewhat comparably fast, considering the player doesn't have to parse xml socket data on a continuous basis, and all image conversions are done by the player. I do concede that doing in c++ will most likely prove to be faster; however, I figure why not try it out. Since I know c++ somewhat I figure I will probably look at their libraries if I get stuck; yet, in the meanwhile, this is a nifty experiment. Here is the video that sparked it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpr3W-YmcQ Colour tracking would be efficient in a system where you have multi coloured thimbles or reflective tape, which is what I was thinking of when I came up with this idea. http://anthony-pace.deviantart.com/art/add-VR-to-current-FPS-GAMES-91091960 Ian Thomas wrote: I was actually thinking of Mario's lecture at FoTB 2008 where he used very similar algorithms to read square barcodes (whatever those things are called) from a webcam. Not multitouch, but there's a lot of similar code (spotting areas of colour, eliminating noise). Worth a look, Anthony. Funnily enough we were talking about exactly the same system for multitouch here yesterday - spotting areas of colour. One of our developers had seen some demo of a similar system on TV over the weekend... Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Hi, Mario Klingemann demo'd something like this at FlashOnTheBeach 2007 - have a look at quasimondo.com to see the 2D or not 2D lecture - not sure if he released any code though? http://lectures.quasimondo.com/ Glen Anthony Pace wrote: I have figured out how to make flash work as a multi-touch system... I am coding it now... it is so darn simple... it just came to me after watching a video on how to make your own multi-touch input device using a webcam a piece of white paper and a box to block most of the light so the cam only sees light and dark. Since it is all based on blobs, and processing the image through a filter to break down the logic, and flash has access to web cams, I can just convert the image to black and white, threshold the image to find the blobs, average out a hit test area based on the finger positions, and all that would come after is putting together the finger gesturing logic. for instance if two blobs exist around their averaged points and have not moved too much or at all, yet there is a third blob that is moving a significant amount, perform a specific function based on its direction (directional logic through tracking input fed into basic physics equations and Pythagorean concepts) If someone has beaten me to it, I would love to know; however, if you beat me to it, after reading my post, tell me about it and show me your source so my life is made easier. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] ActionScript syntax enhancements?
I agree along the lines of Mark. From a developer perspective, I'm always cautious of different flavors of languages which require special compilers, or alternative languages and compilers, like haxe. Several reasons: 1. What happens when you leave the project/company and the next developer has to pick it up and make changes? He/she has to learn the non-standard language and install some other compiler and learn to use it as well. That's if he/she even knows what you used in the first place. 2. Time it can take to learn something like haxe doesn't seem to give you enough ROI - at least my impression having looked at haxe as an alternative. 3. Explaining and justifying to your boss why you used non-standard approaches can be hard, even if you understand the benefits. Sourcecode is now in a form that very few people understand. Anyway, just my thoughts - not to discourage you, I think what you're doing is really cool - just thought maybe you's want to know what challenges you may face selling it to developers - in FOSS form or not. Jason Merrill Bank of America Instructional Technology Media · GCIB Staff Support LLD Interested in Flash Platform technologies? Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the Innovative Learning Blog and subscribe. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams...
Also, MVC's are made up Observer, Strategy, and Composite patterns. Those need to be understood first. There are many ways to use MVC, and you certainly don't have to understand those other patterns first. Maybe how you use MVC. You can use simpler forms of MVC without those patterns. But I am trying to understand why you would go through all that trouble, when calling the function in the parent, if it is a very small application unlikely to be expanded upon, is so much simpler? Anthony - for very small applications, no, you wouldn't use a framework, and maybe not even a design pattern - perhaps just a simple one. You could call the funciton in the parent, sure, but know that it's not a good habit to get into, and will cause headaches in larger applications because you're doing what is known as tight coupling. Loose coupled architecture, when possible without over-coding an app, is the way to go in most projects. Event dispatching and event listening is simple to implement anyway IMO. Jason Merrill Bank of America Instructional Technology Media · GCIB Staff Support LLD Interested in Flash Platform technologies? Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the Innovative Learning Blog and subscribe. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Joel Stransky Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:38 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams... @Jason I'm talking about the oreilly book Actionscript 3.0 Design Patterns by William Sanders and Chandima Cumaranatunge. Enter chapters are shifted off the page but there are addendum on the site. Also, MVC's are made up Observer, Strategy, and Composite patterns. Those need to be understood first. @Anthony, From what I've understood, if you aren't going to need to go back an edit/extend the app frequently or work on a team, there really isn't much benefit to using design patterns. They do however lend to re-using old classes in new apps so you that you don't have to start from scratch each time. On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.cawrote: But I am trying to understand why you would go through all that trouble, when calling the function in the parent, if it is a very small application unlikely to be expanded upon, is so much simpler? maybe for code re-use in a bigger application sure; however, doesn't it seem weird that tightly woven and fast executing code is not prized anymore, and there is a preference for bloated object oriented frameworks? All in the name of making the development cycle smaller and thus less costly; yet, what about increased file size issues and decreased performance? More objects and more event listeners == less performance and higher memory usage in my understanding. Ron Wheeler wrote: Head First Design Patterns is very easy to pick up. No typos, lots and lots of pictures, illustrations and code examples. http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/?CMP=AFC-ak_bookATT=Head+First+Design+Patterns http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfdp/ for a quick overview and a typical illustration http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/toc.pdf Read the section on the Observer Pattern. It might be what you are looking for. Merrill, Jason wrote: I think just a quick answer to your questions which may help a lot is to check into understanding MVC - the Model-View-Controller design pattern. Probably one of the most common pattern used and one that other coding design frameworks use as well for part of their operations. So there are also frameworks like Cairngorm which takes MVC and other patterns together and go a lot further, it has things like Commands to facilitate communication. But simple MVC using event listeners and dispatchers is probably the best place to start to get what you want to do going. Jason Merrill Bank of America Instructional Technology Media · GCIB Staff Support LLD Interested in Flash Platform technologies? Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the Innovative Learning Blog and subscribe. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Pace Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:48 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams... I am looking to get more info on the composition of design patterns and which ones are used most often in the corporate world. Diagrams accompanied by code examples would be awesome. I have been able to find stuff in the past; yet, I really want to know what is generally preferred? I like to try and make things black box; however, it just seems illogical
Re: [Flashcoders] NativeMenuItem keyModifier with function key (AIR)
Hey Sydney, Thanks for the links. The first two didn't do anything for me - they basically repeat what's in the documentation and provide no information about the advanced keys - but the last one stating it is a bug is at least a relief as it means it's known and should (hopefully) be fixed soon. Thanks again, Zeh On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Sidney de Koning sid...@funky-monkey.nl wrote: Oh one more link for you: Function key can't be used as keyEquivalents http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-17901 Good luck, Sid On Jan 8, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Zeh Fernando wrote: Hey list, Do people here work with AIR? Or is there any better-aligned mailing list? Anyway. I'm using AIR 1.5's NativeMenuItem's .keyEquivalent and .keyEquivalentModifier. That feature is pretty cool and works like this: var item:NativeMenuItem = new NativeMenuItem(Do Whatever); item.keyEquivalent = d; item.keyEquivalentModifiers = [Keyboard.CONTROL]; Then when the user presses CTRL+D, the menu item is executed. (More information at http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/help.html?content=Menus_2.html) I'm having a problem setting the .keyEquivalent, though. It accepts strings, so you can't set them to things like Enter, Tab, Del, F1, etc. You can try doing this: var item:NativeMenuItem = new NativeMenuItem(Do Whatever); item.keyEquivalent = F1; item.keyEquivalentModifiers = [Keyboard.CONTROL]; And then, funny enough, the menu item will display CTRL+F1 as the shortcut; but it won't work. The actual shortcut will be CTRL+F - that is, it only takes the first character of the string as the activation key (!). The documentation seems to completely ignore the problem, very briefly mentioning that .keyEquivalent accepts a string. In fact, you can write *anything* as the .keyEquivalent and it'll be shown there on the menu, but only the first char matters. I tried a lot of different things, like adding Keyboard.F1 to the keyEquivalentModifiers array, using Keyboard.F1's key code as a keyEquivalent char, using AIR's new .STRING_F1 or KEYNAME_F1 constants, and things like that. Nothing seems to work though. Has somebody ran into that and found a solution that works? Or am I imagining things? It seems odd to me that I'm able to create a menu in Flash which responds to F1 while I can't do that in AIR using its (great) native menus. Of course I can always add the shortcuts as some keyboard event listener hidden somewhere, but it'd be less than optimal (and wouldn't display the shortcut on the menu). Thanks, Zeh ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] ActionScript syntax enhancements?
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: 2. Time it can take to learn something like haxe doesn't seem to give you enough ROI - at least my impression having looked at haxe as an alternative. I have to disagree here -- learning haXe has definitely payed off for me, and I very much enjoy using it. There are several reasons, from performance over convenience to features like generics that helped me to learn to think differently. The difference is that haXe has some radical improvements that (IMHO) outweigh the disadvantages of breaking compatibility with the sources the rest of the community produces. Also, as I already mentioned, it can generate AS3, and you can still use third-party libraries (it automatically generates the headers for you). The problem I'm having is with minor changes for convenience, for the reasons you listed. But, if there's no lock-in and sources can be standardized easily, then it could be a valuable alternative. Otherwise, yeah, those would be the roadblocks that would slow or even limit acceptance. Mark ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] ActionScript syntax enhancements?
The only thing that I would suggest, is that he tighten the compiler code and perhaps expose low level features if it is possible to do so just through an edit of the p code. It is still compiled into pcode right? or am I out of date... Merrill, Jason wrote: I agree along the lines of Mark. From a developer perspective, I'm always cautious of different flavors of languages which require special compilers, or alternative languages and compilers, like haxe. Several reasons: 1. What happens when you leave the project/company and the next developer has to pick it up and make changes? He/she has to learn the non-standard language and install some other compiler and learn to use it as well. That's if he/she even knows what you used in the first place. 2. Time it can take to learn something like haxe doesn't seem to give you enough ROI - at least my impression having looked at haxe as an alternative. 3. Explaining and justifying to your boss why you used non-standard approaches can be hard, even if you understand the benefits. Sourcecode is now in a form that very few people understand. Anyway, just my thoughts - not to discourage you, I think what you're doing is really cool - just thought maybe you's want to know what challenges you may face selling it to developers - in FOSS form or not. Jason Merrill Bank of America Instructional Technology Media · GCIB Staff Support LLD Interested in Flash Platform technologies? Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the Innovative Learning Blog and subscribe. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] NativeMenuItem keyModifier with function key (AIR)
No problem :) Sid On Jan 8, 2009, at 2:04 PM, Zeh Fernando wrote: Hey Sydney, Thanks for the links. The first two didn't do anything for me - they basically repeat what's in the documentation and provide no information about the advanced keys - but the last one stating it is a bug is at least a relief as it means it's known and should (hopefully) be fixed soon. Thanks again, Zeh On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Sidney de Koning sid...@funky-monkey.nl wrote: Oh one more link for you: Function key can't be used as keyEquivalents http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-17901 Good luck, Sid On Jan 8, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Zeh Fernando wrote: Hey list, Do people here work with AIR? Or is there any better-aligned mailing list? Anyway. I'm using AIR 1.5's NativeMenuItem's .keyEquivalent and .keyEquivalentModifier. That feature is pretty cool and works like this: var item:NativeMenuItem = new NativeMenuItem(Do Whatever); item.keyEquivalent = d; item.keyEquivalentModifiers = [Keyboard.CONTROL]; Then when the user presses CTRL+D, the menu item is executed. (More information at http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/help.html? content=Menus_2.html) I'm having a problem setting the .keyEquivalent, though. It accepts strings, so you can't set them to things like Enter, Tab, Del, F1, etc. You can try doing this: var item:NativeMenuItem = new NativeMenuItem(Do Whatever); item.keyEquivalent = F1; item.keyEquivalentModifiers = [Keyboard.CONTROL]; And then, funny enough, the menu item will display CTRL+F1 as the shortcut; but it won't work. The actual shortcut will be CTRL+F - that is, it only takes the first character of the string as the activation key (!). The documentation seems to completely ignore the problem, very briefly mentioning that .keyEquivalent accepts a string. In fact, you can write *anything* as the .keyEquivalent and it'll be shown there on the menu, but only the first char matters. I tried a lot of different things, like adding Keyboard.F1 to the keyEquivalentModifiers array, using Keyboard.F1's key code as a keyEquivalent char, using AIR's new .STRING_F1 or KEYNAME_F1 constants, and things like that. Nothing seems to work though. Has somebody ran into that and found a solution that works? Or am I imagining things? It seems odd to me that I'm able to create a menu in Flash which responds to F1 while I can't do that in AIR using its (great) native menus. Of course I can always add the shortcuts as some keyboard event listener hidden somewhere, but it'd be less than optimal (and wouldn't display the shortcut on the menu). Thanks, Zeh ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Re: [Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
hello, I've ported a blob detection Processing library, blobDetection, to AS3. It is slow, but maybe you can optimise it. http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?p=8 Using BitmapData.getBoundsRect(), I started BitmapBlobDetection. It works faster: http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?cat=4 I've also developed a kind of register of visual objects to be affected by blobs movements. I need to make some examples before publishing it, but feel free to ask me the files privately. I have used the register in the touchscreen jukebox (http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?p=21). best, andrei On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Piers Cowburn m...@pierscowburn.com wrote: There's good stuff by Grant Skinner too: http://incomplet.gskinner.com/index2.html#camwriter Piers On 8 Jan 2009, at 10:35, Ian Thomas wrote: Yeah, I absolutely get the idea (as I said, we were discussing it yesterday - with reference to an infra-red camera, but same principle). Check out Mario's stuff, there are areas-of-colour recognition algorithms there which will be of help, I think. Cheers, Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: To my knowledge all flash integration for multi-touch has been made possible by using flosc by ben chun, or with OpenCV and touchLib; however, what I am proposing is that it is possible directly through the use of the flash player and a simple cam rig. I think that it should be possible, and at least somewhat comparably fast, considering the player doesn't have to parse xml socket data on a continuous basis, and all image conversions are done by the player. I do concede that doing in c++ will most likely prove to be faster; however, I figure why not try it out. Since I know c++ somewhat I figure I will probably look at their libraries if I get stuck; yet, in the meanwhile, this is a nifty experiment. Here is the video that sparked it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpr3W-YmcQ Colour tracking would be efficient in a system where you have multi coloured thimbles or reflective tape, which is what I was thinking of when I came up with this idea. http://anthony-pace.deviantart.com/art/add-VR-to-current-FPS-GAMES-91091960 Ian Thomas wrote: I was actually thinking of Mario's lecture at FoTB 2008 where he used very similar algorithms to read square barcodes (whatever those things are called) from a webcam. Not multitouch, but there's a lot of similar code (spotting areas of colour, eliminating noise). Worth a look, Anthony. Funnily enough we were talking about exactly the same system for multitouch here yesterday - spotting areas of colour. One of our developers had seen some demo of a similar system on TV over the weekend... Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Hi, Mario Klingemann demo'd something like this at FlashOnTheBeach 2007 - have a look at quasimondo.com to see the 2D or not 2D lecture - not sure if he released any code though? http://lectures.quasimondo.com/ Glen Anthony Pace wrote: I have figured out how to make flash work as a multi-touch system... I am coding it now... it is so darn simple... it just came to me after watching a video on how to make your own multi-touch input device using a webcam a piece of white paper and a box to block most of the light so the cam only sees light and dark. Since it is all based on blobs, and processing the image through a filter to break down the logic, and flash has access to web cams, I can just convert the image to black and white, threshold the image to find the blobs, average out a hit test area based on the finger positions, and all that would come after is putting together the finger gesturing logic. for instance if two blobs exist around their averaged points and have not moved too much or at all, yet there is a third blob that is moving a significant amount, perform a specific function based on its direction (directional logic through tracking input fed into basic physics equations and Pythagorean concepts) If someone has beaten me to it, I would love to know; however, if you beat me to it, after reading my post, tell me about it and show me your source so my life is made easier. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
and, of course, don't miss the NUI group forum: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewforum/33/ and the original version of blobDetection http://v3ga.net/processing/BlobDetection/ best, andrei On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Andrei Thomaz andreitho...@gmail.comwrote: hello, I've ported a blob detection Processing library, blobDetection, to AS3. It is slow, but maybe you can optimise it. http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?p=8 Using BitmapData.getBoundsRect(), I started BitmapBlobDetection. It works faster: http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?cat=4 I've also developed a kind of register of visual objects to be affected by blobs movements. I need to make some examples before publishing it, but feel free to ask me the files privately. I have used the register in the touchscreen jukebox (http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?p=21). best, andrei On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Piers Cowburn m...@pierscowburn.com wrote: There's good stuff by Grant Skinner too: http://incomplet.gskinner.com/index2.html#camwriter Piers On 8 Jan 2009, at 10:35, Ian Thomas wrote: Yeah, I absolutely get the idea (as I said, we were discussing it yesterday - with reference to an infra-red camera, but same principle). Check out Mario's stuff, there are areas-of-colour recognition algorithms there which will be of help, I think. Cheers, Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: To my knowledge all flash integration for multi-touch has been made possible by using flosc by ben chun, or with OpenCV and touchLib; however, what I am proposing is that it is possible directly through the use of the flash player and a simple cam rig. I think that it should be possible, and at least somewhat comparably fast, considering the player doesn't have to parse xml socket data on a continuous basis, and all image conversions are done by the player. I do concede that doing in c++ will most likely prove to be faster; however, I figure why not try it out. Since I know c++ somewhat I figure I will probably look at their libraries if I get stuck; yet, in the meanwhile, this is a nifty experiment. Here is the video that sparked it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpr3W-YmcQ Colour tracking would be efficient in a system where you have multi coloured thimbles or reflective tape, which is what I was thinking of when I came up with this idea. http://anthony-pace.deviantart.com/art/add-VR-to-current-FPS-GAMES-91091960 Ian Thomas wrote: I was actually thinking of Mario's lecture at FoTB 2008 where he used very similar algorithms to read square barcodes (whatever those things are called) from a webcam. Not multitouch, but there's a lot of similar code (spotting areas of colour, eliminating noise). Worth a look, Anthony. Funnily enough we were talking about exactly the same system for multitouch here yesterday - spotting areas of colour. One of our developers had seen some demo of a similar system on TV over the weekend... Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Hi, Mario Klingemann demo'd something like this at FlashOnTheBeach 2007 - have a look at quasimondo.com to see the 2D or not 2D lecture - not sure if he released any code though? http://lectures.quasimondo.com/ Glen Anthony Pace wrote: I have figured out how to make flash work as a multi-touch system... I am coding it now... it is so darn simple... it just came to me after watching a video on how to make your own multi-touch input device using a webcam a piece of white paper and a box to block most of the light so the cam only sees light and dark. Since it is all based on blobs, and processing the image through a filter to break down the logic, and flash has access to web cams, I can just convert the image to black and white, threshold the image to find the blobs, average out a hit test area based on the finger positions, and all that would come after is putting together the finger gesturing logic. for instance if two blobs exist around their averaged points and have not moved too much or at all, yet there is a third blob that is moving a significant amount, perform a specific function based on its direction (directional logic through tracking input fed into basic physics equations and Pythagorean concepts) If someone has beaten me to it, I would love to know; however, if you beat me to it, after reading my post, tell me about it and show me your source so my life is made easier. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
great info... Before I peruse through your library, I have a few questions. Do you test for the largest circle or rectangle that can fit in the blob? Or for the centre point of the blob? or do you look for a circle or rectangle that encapsulates the blob, and then possibly locate an approximate centre. I would think just locating the centre point of a rectangle or circle would be faster to track than looking for edges. What happens when the fingers are placed together? do you count them as one finger and then add a size restriction? Do you restrict actions based on the size of a blob? if so how has that worked out? I am definitely going to pick through it; yet, I would love some insight. Andrei Thomaz wrote: and, of course, don't miss the NUI group forum: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewforum/33/ and the original version of blobDetection http://v3ga.net/processing/BlobDetection/ best, andrei On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Andrei Thomaz andreitho...@gmail.comwrote: hello, I've ported a blob detection Processing library, blobDetection, to AS3. It is slow, but maybe you can optimise it. http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?p=8 Using BitmapData.getBoundsRect(), I started BitmapBlobDetection. It works faster: http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?cat=4 I've also developed a kind of register of visual objects to be affected by blobs movements. I need to make some examples before publishing it, but feel free to ask me the files privately. I have used the register in the touchscreen jukebox (http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?p=21). best, andrei On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Piers Cowburn m...@pierscowburn.com wrote: There's good stuff by Grant Skinner too: http://incomplet.gskinner.com/index2.html#camwriter Piers On 8 Jan 2009, at 10:35, Ian Thomas wrote: Yeah, I absolutely get the idea (as I said, we were discussing it yesterday - with reference to an infra-red camera, but same principle). Check out Mario's stuff, there are areas-of-colour recognition algorithms there which will be of help, I think. Cheers, Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: To my knowledge all flash integration for multi-touch has been made possible by using flosc by ben chun, or with OpenCV and touchLib; however, what I am proposing is that it is possible directly through the use of the flash player and a simple cam rig. I think that it should be possible, and at least somewhat comparably fast, considering the player doesn't have to parse xml socket data on a continuous basis, and all image conversions are done by the player. I do concede that doing in c++ will most likely prove to be faster; however, I figure why not try it out. Since I know c++ somewhat I figure I will probably look at their libraries if I get stuck; yet, in the meanwhile, this is a nifty experiment. Here is the video that sparked it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpr3W-YmcQ Colour tracking would be efficient in a system where you have multi coloured thimbles or reflective tape, which is what I was thinking of when I came up with this idea. http://anthony-pace.deviantart.com/art/add-VR-to-current-FPS-GAMES-91091960 Ian Thomas wrote: I was actually thinking of Mario's lecture at FoTB 2008 where he used very similar algorithms to read square barcodes (whatever those things are called) from a webcam. Not multitouch, but there's a lot of similar code (spotting areas of colour, eliminating noise). Worth a look, Anthony. Funnily enough we were talking about exactly the same system for multitouch here yesterday - spotting areas of colour. One of our developers had seen some demo of a similar system on TV over the weekend... Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Hi, Mario Klingemann demo'd something like this at FlashOnTheBeach 2007 - have a look at quasimondo.com to see the 2D or not 2D lecture - not sure if he released any code though? http://lectures.quasimondo.com/ Glen Anthony Pace wrote: I have figured out how to make flash work as a multi-touch system... I am coding it now... it is so darn simple... it just came to me after watching a video on how to make your own multi-touch input device using a webcam a piece of white paper and a box to block most of the light so the cam only sees light and dark. Since it is all based on blobs, and processing the image through a filter to break down the logic, and flash has access to web cams, I can just convert the image to black and white, threshold the image to find the blobs, average out a hit test area based on the finger positions, and all that would come after is putting together the finger gesturing logic. for instance if two blobs exist around their averaged points and have not moved too much or at all, yet there is a third blob that is moving a significant amount, perform a specific function based on its direction
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
hello Anthony, you can set some parameters when using the library, to get what you want. For example: - you can set what will be the maximum size of a blob. If the blob is greater than the maximum size, the algorithm checks if there is really a large blob, or several small blobs. If the blob is smaller them maximum size, the algorithm stops there. Of course, smaller the maximum size, slower the blob detection will run; - you can set if you want edges or just the bounding rectangles; So, the library can see fingers as several blobs, or as just one blob, based on parameters given. I've also written some classes to make blob tracking, but I haven't published them in my blog yet because I want to write some docs and examples. But I think they can be useful for you, so you can grab them here: http://www.andreithomaz.com/arquivos/blob_tracking.zip best, andrei On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.cawrote: great info... Before I peruse through your library, I have a few questions. Do you test for the largest circle or rectangle that can fit in the blob? Or for the centre point of the blob? or do you look for a circle or rectangle that encapsulates the blob, and then possibly locate an approximate centre. I would think just locating the centre point of a rectangle or circle would be faster to track than looking for edges. What happens when the fingers are placed together? do you count them as one finger and then add a size restriction? Do you restrict actions based on the size of a blob? if so how has that worked out? I am definitely going to pick through it; yet, I would love some insight. Andrei Thomaz wrote: and, of course, don't miss the NUI group forum: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewforum/33/ and the original version of blobDetection http://v3ga.net/processing/BlobDetection/ best, andrei On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Andrei Thomaz andreitho...@gmail.com wrote: hello, I've ported a blob detection Processing library, blobDetection, to AS3. It is slow, but maybe you can optimise it. http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?p=8 Using BitmapData.getBoundsRect(), I started BitmapBlobDetection. It works faster: http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?cat=4 I've also developed a kind of register of visual objects to be affected by blobs movements. I need to make some examples before publishing it, but feel free to ask me the files privately. I have used the register in the touchscreen jukebox (http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?p=21). best, andrei On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Piers Cowburn m...@pierscowburn.com wrote: There's good stuff by Grant Skinner too: http://incomplet.gskinner.com/index2.html#camwriter Piers On 8 Jan 2009, at 10:35, Ian Thomas wrote: Yeah, I absolutely get the idea (as I said, we were discussing it yesterday - with reference to an infra-red camera, but same principle). Check out Mario's stuff, there are areas-of-colour recognition algorithms there which will be of help, I think. Cheers, Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: To my knowledge all flash integration for multi-touch has been made possible by using flosc by ben chun, or with OpenCV and touchLib; however, what I am proposing is that it is possible directly through the use of the flash player and a simple cam rig. I think that it should be possible, and at least somewhat comparably fast, considering the player doesn't have to parse xml socket data on a continuous basis, and all image conversions are done by the player. I do concede that doing in c++ will most likely prove to be faster; however, I figure why not try it out. Since I know c++ somewhat I figure I will probably look at their libraries if I get stuck; yet, in the meanwhile, this is a nifty experiment. Here is the video that sparked it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpr3W-YmcQ Colour tracking would be efficient in a system where you have multi coloured thimbles or reflective tape, which is what I was thinking of when I came up with this idea. http://anthony-pace.deviantart.com/art/add-VR-to-current-FPS-GAMES-91091960 Ian Thomas wrote: I was actually thinking of Mario's lecture at FoTB 2008 where he used very similar algorithms to read square barcodes (whatever those things are called) from a webcam. Not multitouch, but there's a lot of similar code (spotting areas of colour, eliminating noise). Worth a look, Anthony. Funnily enough we were talking about exactly the same system for multitouch here yesterday - spotting areas of colour. One of our developers had seen some demo of a similar system on TV over the weekend... Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Hi, Mario Klingemann demo'd something like this at FlashOnTheBeach 2007 - have a look at quasimondo.com to see the 2D or not 2D lecture - not sure if
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-touch directly in flash...
Thank you very much for the zip... I look forward to nosing through it. Andrei Thomaz wrote: hello Anthony, you can set some parameters when using the library, to get what you want. For example: - you can set what will be the maximum size of a blob. If the blob is greater than the maximum size, the algorithm checks if there is really a large blob, or several small blobs. If the blob is smaller them maximum size, the algorithm stops there. Of course, smaller the maximum size, slower the blob detection will run; - you can set if you want edges or just the bounding rectangles; So, the library can see fingers as several blobs, or as just one blob, based on parameters given. I've also written some classes to make blob tracking, but I haven't published them in my blog yet because I want to write some docs and examples. But I think they can be useful for you, so you can grab them here: http://www.andreithomaz.com/arquivos/blob_tracking.zip best, andrei On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.cawrote: great info... Before I peruse through your library, I have a few questions. Do you test for the largest circle or rectangle that can fit in the blob? Or for the centre point of the blob? or do you look for a circle or rectangle that encapsulates the blob, and then possibly locate an approximate centre. I would think just locating the centre point of a rectangle or circle would be faster to track than looking for edges. What happens when the fingers are placed together? do you count them as one finger and then add a size restriction? Do you restrict actions based on the size of a blob? if so how has that worked out? I am definitely going to pick through it; yet, I would love some insight. Andrei Thomaz wrote: and, of course, don't miss the NUI group forum: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewforum/33/ and the original version of blobDetection http://v3ga.net/processing/BlobDetection/ best, andrei On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Andrei Thomaz andreitho...@gmail.com wrote: hello, I've ported a blob detection Processing library, blobDetection, to AS3. It is slow, but maybe you can optimise it. http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?p=8 Using BitmapData.getBoundsRect(), I started BitmapBlobDetection. It works faster: http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?cat=4 I've also developed a kind of register of visual objects to be affected by blobs movements. I need to make some examples before publishing it, but feel free to ask me the files privately. I have used the register in the touchscreen jukebox (http://andreithomaz.com/labs/?p=21). best, andrei On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Piers Cowburn m...@pierscowburn.com wrote: There's good stuff by Grant Skinner too: http://incomplet.gskinner.com/index2.html#camwriter Piers On 8 Jan 2009, at 10:35, Ian Thomas wrote: Yeah, I absolutely get the idea (as I said, we were discussing it yesterday - with reference to an infra-red camera, but same principle). Check out Mario's stuff, there are areas-of-colour recognition algorithms there which will be of help, I think. Cheers, Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: To my knowledge all flash integration for multi-touch has been made possible by using flosc by ben chun, or with OpenCV and touchLib; however, what I am proposing is that it is possible directly through the use of the flash player and a simple cam rig. I think that it should be possible, and at least somewhat comparably fast, considering the player doesn't have to parse xml socket data on a continuous basis, and all image conversions are done by the player. I do concede that doing in c++ will most likely prove to be faster; however, I figure why not try it out. Since I know c++ somewhat I figure I will probably look at their libraries if I get stuck; yet, in the meanwhile, this is a nifty experiment. Here is the video that sparked it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpr3W-YmcQ Colour tracking would be efficient in a system where you have multi coloured thimbles or reflective tape, which is what I was thinking of when I came up with this idea. http://anthony-pace.deviantart.com/art/add-VR-to-current-FPS-GAMES-91091960 Ian Thomas wrote: I was actually thinking of Mario's lecture at FoTB 2008 where he used very similar algorithms to read square barcodes (whatever those things are called) from a webcam. Not multitouch, but there's a lot of similar code (spotting areas of colour, eliminating noise). Worth a look, Anthony. Funnily enough we were talking about exactly the same system for multitouch here yesterday - spotting areas of colour. One of our developers had seen some demo of a similar system on TV over the weekend... Ian On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Hi, Mario Klingemann demo'd
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[Flashcoders] [AS2] Set the default value of a ComboBox
Hi Guys, happy new year to you all!
I have a combobox added to the stage in the flash IDE and it is
populated via Actionscript 2 from an external XML file. The trouble is I
want to automatically select a label in the combobox rather than showing
the first label which is the current default.
I populate my combobox like this:
combobox1.addItem({data:data1, label:lable1});
combobox1.addItem({data:data2, label:lable2});
Now I have a combobox with 2 labels, label1 and label2. I want label2 to
display as the default instead of label1, now I understand I could do:
combobox1.selectedIndex = 1;
but I actually want to loop through the combobox labels and match if
label2 = label2 then select that index, so is there any way I can read
the labels / data of a combobox? I have tried combobox1.data and
combobox1.labels, but it just returns undefined?
Thanks in advance
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populate with an array, and then go through the array, and use the matching
index.
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Hi Guys, happy new year to you all!
I have a combobox added to the stage in the flash IDE and it is populated
via Actionscript 2 from an external XML file. The trouble is I want to
automatically select a label in the combobox rather than showing the first
label which is the current default.
I populate my combobox like this:
combobox1.addItem({data:data1, label:lable1});
combobox1.addItem({data:data2, label:lable2});
Now I have a combobox with 2 labels, label1 and label2. I want label2 to
display as the default instead of label1, now I understand I could do:
combobox1.selectedIndex = 1;
but I actually want to loop through the combobox labels and match if label2
= label2 then select that index, so is there any way I can read the labels /
data of a combobox? I have tried combobox1.data and combobox1.labels, but it
just returns undefined?
Thanks in advance
SJM
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You might find this helpful but it sure isn't as convenient as a forum archive would be... http://www.mail-archive.com/flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com/index.html#45599 On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Bob Wohl bob.w...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember correctly, we used to have a public archive for this at chattyfigs but people started fishing emails from it(4 years ago maybe) and Dave had some issues and maybe even got fed up with the constant maintenance. This was before the days of google groups. But being a developer my memory is pretty cloudy ;) B. On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:06 PM, SJF sjf...@gmail.com wrote: I find the flashcoders mailing list very helpful and often pick up new ideas/techniques from what people post. Just wondering how people access this mailing list. It would be great if you could configure the SearchCoders Dashboard (which is a nice little air app - see link http://www.searchcoders.com/) for this FlashCoders list. I'll send them an email (searchcoders) and see if this is possible. Any thoughts on this. Cheers. SF. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How do you access this mailing list ...
Hi, There is an online website that shows all the threads from the FlashCoders list, but I can't remember it's name. I found it when Googling, so try searching for a specific sentence from one of the list emails that maybe a month or so old - so Google has had time to spider it - the website sorts by thread and stuff, so you can walk backwards and forwards. Also, one of the guys on the list - maybe muzak - had a page on their site where you could search the archives, but not sure if that's there any more. HTH Glen Bob Wohl wrote: If I remember correctly, we used to have a public archive for this at chattyfigs but people started fishing emails from it(4 years ago maybe) and Dave had some issues and maybe even got fed up with the constant maintenance. This was before the days of google groups. But being a developer my memory is pretty cloudy ;) B. On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:06 PM, SJF sjf...@gmail.com wrote: I find the flashcoders mailing list very helpful and often pick up new ideas/techniques from what people post. Just wondering how people access this mailing list. It would be great if you could configure the SearchCoders Dashboard (which is a nice little air app - see link http://www.searchcoders.com/) for this FlashCoders list. I'll send them an email (searchcoders) and see if this is possible. Any thoughts on this. Cheers. SF. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] [AS2] Set the default value of a ComboBox
That sounds like a potential for unneeded redundancy/potential sync errors
if things change later.. Better to use the ComboBox.getItemAt() method,
right?
trace(myBox.getItemAt(4).label);
-jonathan
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Eric E. Dolecki edole...@gmail.com wrote:
populate with an array, and then go through the array, and use the matching
index.
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM, FlashDev fl...@funkdaweb.com wrote:
Hi Guys, happy new year to you all!
I have a combobox added to the stage in the flash IDE and it is populated
via Actionscript 2 from an external XML file. The trouble is I want to
automatically select a label in the combobox rather than showing the
first
label which is the current default.
I populate my combobox like this:
combobox1.addItem({data:data1, label:lable1});
combobox1.addItem({data:data2, label:lable2});
Now I have a combobox with 2 labels, label1 and label2. I want label2 to
display as the default instead of label1, now I understand I could do:
combobox1.selectedIndex = 1;
but I actually want to loop through the combobox labels and match if
label2
= label2 then select that index, so is there any way I can read the
labels /
data of a combobox? I have tried combobox1.data and combobox1.labels, but
it
just returns undefined?
Thanks in advance
SJM
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Re: [Flashcoders] [AS2] Set the default value of a ComboBox
Thanks Jonathan, Sorted the problem basically i had to use this code...
function setValue (pValue:String):Void
{
for (var i:Number = 0; i comboBox.length; i++)
{
if (comboBox.getItemAt(i).data == pValue)
{
comboBox.selectedIndex = i;
break;
}
}
}
setValue (MyVariable);
Regards
SJM
jonathan howe wrote:
That sounds like a potential for unneeded redundancy/potential sync errors
if things change later.. Better to use the ComboBox.getItemAt() method,
right?
trace(myBox.getItemAt(4).label);
-jonathan
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Eric E. Dolecki edole...@gmail.com wrote:
populate with an array, and then go through the array, and use the matching
index.
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM, FlashDev fl...@funkdaweb.com wrote:
Hi Guys, happy new year to you all!
I have a combobox added to the stage in the flash IDE and it is populated
via Actionscript 2 from an external XML file. The trouble is I want to
automatically select a label in the combobox rather than showing the
first
label which is the current default.
I populate my combobox like this:
combobox1.addItem({data:data1, label:lable1});
combobox1.addItem({data:data2, label:lable2});
Now I have a combobox with 2 labels, label1 and label2. I want label2 to
display as the default instead of label1, now I understand I could do:
combobox1.selectedIndex = 1;
but I actually want to loop through the combobox labels and match if
label2
= label2 then select that index, so is there any way I can read the
labels /
data of a combobox? I have tried combobox1.data and combobox1.labels, but
it
just returns undefined?
Thanks in advance
SJM
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[Flashcoders] Looking for actionscript video code
This my first email here. I hope I am posting this to the right area. My apologies if not. I want to take a QT.mov and create an flv with event cue points that can then be controlled using actionscript to stop the video at a specific time and execute another event, all without end user input. I have very little experience in working with actionscript 2.0 (sorry, but I need to do this in 2.0). Can anyone direct me to a book or online tutorial that covers this in detail? _ Bill Jones Interface Developer Backe Digital Brand Marketing 35 Cricket Terrace Center Ardmore, PA 19003 Voice: 610-896-9260 x280 Fax: 610-896-9242 bjo...@backemarketing.com If you want to go forward, click Backe. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Looking for actionscript video code
go http://www.gotoandlearn.com see Flash Video Basics 1 to 8 On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Bill Jones bjo...@backemarketing.comwrote: This my first email here. I hope I am posting this to the right area. My apologies if not. I want to take a QT.mov and create an flv with event cue points that can then be controlled using actionscript to stop the video at a specific time and execute another event, all without end user input. I have very little experience in working with actionscript 2.0 (sorry, but I need to do this in 2.0). Can anyone direct me to a book or online tutorial that covers this in detail? _ Bill Jones Interface Developer Backe Digital Brand Marketing 35 Cricket Terrace Center Ardmore, PA 19003 Voice: 610-896-9260 x280 Fax: 610-896-9242 bjo...@backemarketing.com If you want to go forward, click Backe. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Looking for actionscript video code
Also, using the Adobe Media Encoder ( http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=77EE2) which installs with CS3 and CS4 is an extremely easy way to work with video files, adding cue points, etc... Cheers, Nate http://blog.natebeck.net ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] create object with getDefinition and pass parameters using apply ?
I need to create objects using getDefinition and pass parameter to the constructor but the problem is that the number of parameters can be different. I tried using apply like this but I can't make it work. var classReference:Object = getDefinitionByName(className); var object:Object = new classReference.apply(this, array); Is there any way to do this ? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] create object with getDefinition and pass parameters using apply ?
Well for now I've done this which supports up to 5 arguments but if anyone's
got a better suggestion please tell me...
var classReference:Object = getDefinitionByName(className);
var object:Object;
switch(array.length) {
case 0:
object = new classReference();
break;
case 1:
object = new classReference(array[0]);
break;
case 2:
object = new classReference(array[0],array[1]);
break;
case 3:
object = new classReference(array[0],array[1],array[2]);
break;
case 4:
object = new
classReference(array[0],array[1],array[2],array[3]);
break;
case 5:
object = new
classReference(array[0],array[1],array[2],array[3],array[4]);
break;
}
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[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:19 PM
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Subject: [Flashcoders] create object with getDefinition and pass parameters
using apply ?
I need to create objects using getDefinition and pass parameter to the
constructor but the problem is that the number of parameters can be different.
I tried using apply like this but I can't make it work.
var classReference:Object = getDefinitionByName(className);
var object:Object = new classReference.apply(this, array);
Is there any way to do this ?
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Re: [Flashcoders] create object with getDefinition and pass parameters using apply ?
Why not predefine the params as null?
class myClass{
public function myClass(param1 = null, param2 = null, ... param6 = null){
}
}
or just use the rest (...) parameter
class myClass{
public function myClass(...args){
for(var i:uint = 0; i args.length; i++){
trace(args[i]);
}
}
}
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Patrick Matte | BLITZ
pma...@blitzagency.com wrote:
Well for now I've done this which supports up to 5 arguments but if
anyone's got a better suggestion please tell me...
var classReference:Object = getDefinitionByName(className);
var object:Object;
switch(array.length) {
case 0:
object = new classReference();
break;
case 1:
object = new classReference(array[0]);
break;
case 2:
object = new classReference(array[0],array[1]);
break;
case 3:
object = new classReference(array[0],array[1],array[2]);
break;
case 4:
object = new
classReference(array[0],array[1],array[2],array[3]);
break;
case 5:
object = new
classReference(array[0],array[1],array[2],array[3],array[4]);
break;
}
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From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:
flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
Matte|BLITZ
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:19 PM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: [Flashcoders] create object with getDefinition and pass parameters
using apply ?
I need to create objects using getDefinition and pass parameter to the
constructor but the problem is that the number of parameters can be
different. I tried using apply like this but I can't make it work.
var classReference:Object = getDefinitionByName(className);
var object:Object = new classReference.apply(this, array);
Is there any way to do this ?
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[Flashcoders] Flex UI ...
I'm using Flex 3 when working on pure actionscript projects. I often have issues with numerous dialog boxes and parts of the interface within Flex (see images below): http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/512/60793305bx2.gif http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7996/64384807bn2.gif Tabs and controls within these boxes don't appear correctly. This is not a memory issue as my laptop is a high spec machine and Flex is the only thing running. Anyone advise or have the same issue? Cheers, SF. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE : [Flashcoders] create object with getDefinition and pass parameters using apply ?
That wouldn't help, I'm writing a class that can create any kind of objects and
pass any number of argument to that object at instantiation.
De : flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] de la part de Joel Stransky
[stranskydes...@gmail.com]
Date d'envoi : 8 janvier 2009 20:28
À : Flash Coders List
Objet : Re: [Flashcoders] create object with getDefinition and pass
parameters using apply ?
Why not predefine the params as null?
class myClass{
public function myClass(param1 = null, param2 = null, ... param6 = null){
}
}
or just use the rest (...) parameter
class myClass{
public function myClass(...args){
for(var i:uint = 0; i args.length; i++){
trace(args[i]);
}
}
}
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Patrick Matte | BLITZ
pma...@blitzagency.com wrote:
Well for now I've done this which supports up to 5 arguments but if
anyone's got a better suggestion please tell me...
var classReference:Object = getDefinitionByName(className);
var object:Object;
switch(array.length) {
case 0:
object = new classReference();
break;
case 1:
object = new classReference(array[0]);
break;
case 2:
object = new classReference(array[0],array[1]);
break;
case 3:
object = new classReference(array[0],array[1],array[2]);
break;
case 4:
object = new
classReference(array[0],array[1],array[2],array[3]);
break;
case 5:
object = new
classReference(array[0],array[1],array[2],array[3],array[4]);
break;
}
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flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
Matte|BLITZ
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:19 PM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: [Flashcoders] create object with getDefinition and pass parameters
using apply ?
I need to create objects using getDefinition and pass parameter to the
constructor but the problem is that the number of parameters can be
different. I tried using apply like this but I can't make it work.
var classReference:Object = getDefinitionByName(className);
var object:Object = new classReference.apply(this, array);
Is there any way to do this ?
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