[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Server-Side Technology Recommendations

2006-07-18 Thread Tom Jordahl
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Nick Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So Tom, when are you going to include newer MySQL drivers by default,
 instead of requiring users to manually update the drivers and
specify them
 when creating a DSN? I'm using MySQL 4.1 and even that old of a
version of
 MySQL requires me to manually update the drivers on a new CF install and
 manually enter all the information when creating a DSN to talk to it.

The people who own MySQL (it is proprietary BTW) did not allow us to
redistribute the latest JDBC MySQL driver for free.  If I recall, they
wanted quite a bit of money.  Since *you* could download it for free,
and we had the older version that could work[1] with the newer servers
if you change the authentication method, we stuck with that.

The good news is that we expect to enhance our support for MySQL in
Scorpio, the next major release of CF.

[1] MySQL tech note: http://www.adobe.com/go/6ef0253
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[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Server-Side Technology Recommendations

2006-07-17 Thread Tom Jordahl
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Mulvihill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi all,
  
 What do you all recommend for backend server-side technology to work
with
 Flex? I'm planning on some work with MySQL and not particularly
interested
 in .NET.

Hi Kevin,

I would say that you should look at ColdFusion MX 7.0.2 as the premier
server side technology that closely integrates with Flex 2.

Some advantages
- Application Wizard gives you a working Flex/CF app in minutes.
- Tight integration with the FDS Messaging and Data Mangement features
- Easy to use Flash Remoting support allows you to invoke ColdFusion
Components
- Its ColdFusion!  The fastest, simplest and most productive server
side scripting technology around.

Disclaimer: I am (very) biased.

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[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Server-Side Technology Recommendations

2006-07-17 Thread Tom Jordahl
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tim Hoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So CF would replace ASP.Net as the middle tier.  I have no exposure 
 to CF, so that clears things up a bit.  But, no native databases in 
 CF?

sales pitch

Well, ColdFusion talks to databases using JDBC, the Java equivalent of
ODBC or OLEDB.  We include drivers for most databases in the box,
including a 'native' SQL Server driver.  So in that respect we are
very much like ASP.  CFML is a tag based markup language that is very
easy to learn, especially if you know HTML.  And we connect to almost
everything: SMS, IM, LDAP, POP, COM, CORBA, HTTP, SMTP, JMS,
databases, Web services (publish and consume) etc, etc.  Plus among
other things we have printing (generate PDF with a single tag) and
reporting features, including a free report builder tool.  We include
the Verity/Autonomy K2 enterprise text search engine.  The list goes
on and one.

CF is very cool. :-)

Download the free 30 day trial and check it out.
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/

/sales pitch

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[flexcoders] Re: Beta 3 WebService Result

2006-07-06 Thread Tom Jordahl

The important thing with tns1:string vs. s:string is that the
namespace prefixes (tns1 and s) point to the XML Schema namespace:
  xmlns:xsd=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;

In general with Axis, 'tns1' points to something other than XML
Schema, for instance (from a ColdFusion CFC web service):
  xmlns:tns1=http://rpc.xml.coldfusion;

I hope that helps a little
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--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, someguy7_7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mine have type=s:string as well. I also have a field called
 totalresults that is at the same level as the items which is an
 integer and seems to be fine. I am able to reference that using
 lastResult.totalresults. The strings for category and categoryid are
 the ones I am having problems with. 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Kelly Birr kelly.fx@ wrote:
 
  The only difference I can see between your WSDL and mine is that
 mine has
  type=s:string in the simple string elements.   I've looked
through my
  services and have found type=tns:whatever in some places and
flex does
  interpret those as more complex types.  
  
  I can only assume this is what's happening to you.  If you have
 control over
  your WSDL you may try type=s:string.  I had to do something
 similar in my
  .NET web services to get the WSDL to read type=s:string instead of
  type=s:dateTime for date/time values so Flex would leave them as
 strings
  and not convert them to Date objects and mess up the time zone.
  
  - Kelly
  
  -Original Message-
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of someguy7_7
  Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:32 PM
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Beta 3 WebService Result
  
  Our webservices are written in J2EE 1.5 with Axis. I can get the
 specific
  version of Axis if you think it matters. 
  
  Here is part of wsdl that pertains to the question. Sorry about the
  formatting.
  
  complexType name=SearchResponse
  sequence
  element maxOccurs=1 minOccurs=0 name=items nillable=true
  complexType
  sequence
  element maxOccurs=1 minOccurs=0 name=totalresults
  type=tns1:int/
  element maxOccurs=unbounded minOccurs=0 name=item
  nillable=true
  complexType
  sequence
  element maxOccurs=1 minOccurs=0 name=category
  type=tns1:string/
  element maxOccurs=1 minOccurs=0
  name=categoryid
  type=tns1:string/
  /sequence
  /complexType
  /element
  /sequence
  /complexType
  /element
  /sequence
  /complexType
  
  
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CF/Flex wizards (was Re: [flexcoders] Re: any disadvantages to using FDS + CF vs

2006-07-06 Thread Tom Jordahl
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Douglas Knudsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Speaking of these wizards, how can we modify the templates they are
 generated from?
 How difficult would it be to make them scriptable or add the ability
 for them to act on mulitple tables?

Hi Doug,

The CFC wizards do not currently support this kind of customization. 
We designed them as a productivity tool to get users up and running
quickly and to remove some of the tedium in coding value objects in AS
and CFML.We fully expect that the resulting code would not be
final and developers would edit them for their needs.

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[flexcoders] Re: Working with CFC's

2006-07-06 Thread Tom Jordahl
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Bacardi Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oops, as you can see, I'm new to the list as well. The problem is the
 results ARE NOT being loaded into the datagrid.
 Thanks,
 Bacardi Bryant

Bacardi,

There are several article on the Adopbe Developer Center that might
help, along with the CF 7.0.2 docucmentation.  I know there is a new
set of chapters Using CF with Flex 2.0, but it isn't up on livedocs yet.

Try this article from Kyle to start:
  http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/helloworld.html

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[flexcoders] Re: ColdFusion vs. PHP as the back-end

2006-07-06 Thread Tom Jordahl
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Ville Walveranta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 *   If you want to go hardcore though, Java is your best option.
 
 Why Java over PHP in this instance?  PHP is a very capable language,
albeit
 maybe a little fragmented due to it's nature. Perhpas the biggest
thing
 that bothers me in it is the lack of thread safety (which,
obviously, is not
 an issue with languages such as CF or Java that have been written from
 ground up, and that don't rely on a plethora of third party modules).


I would certainly say that ColdFusion is the clear choice given its
tight integration with all the Flex 2.0 features, including AMF3
support, value objects and FDS integration with DataManagement and
Messaging.  Not to mention the Eclipse Application Wizard and CFC-AS
code writing wizards.

We put a lot of work in making ColdFusion *the* premier backend for
Flex 2.

I am (obviously) very baised, as I did a lot of that work.

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[flexcoders] Re: any disadvantages to using FDS + CF vs. FDS + Java?

2006-07-05 Thread Tom Jordahl
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since we have more CF developers in-house, we're wondering if there
are any
 disadvantages or limitations of using CF with FDS instead of using Java.

Just wanted to jump in here and say that using ColdFusion does have
some advantages over Java.  For one thing, not having to write Java
code to do JDBC manipulation of your data is a big one.  We believe
that for RAD development, CFML (especially given the Flex Builder
wizards we provide)  will get you up and running much quicker.

A CF solution should scale very well, as you are offloading the
processing of the DB operations on to the CF server.  You do pay a
small price in moving the result sets from CF to Flex over a network
if CF and Flex are on different machines.

We fully support the change object model of writing Assemblers as
ColdFusion Components.  The one thing we do not support writing in
CFML is the 'server push' API which allows a Java application running
in the Flex web application to 'push' changes to the data in to the
Flex managed result sets.  We are currently evaluating supporting this
in a future release.

I hope this (biased) information helps.


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[flexcoders] Re: any disadvantages to using FDS + CF vs. FDS + Java?

2006-07-05 Thread Tom Jordahl
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, Tom.  The primary responsibility of our server-side logic is
to push
 data out to clients (updating user lists, sending validated chat
messages,
 etc.), so it sounds like that's a deal-breaker for CF.  :(

Well, so let me clear.  If you are talking about the *Data Management*
part of FDS that is fine.  We just don't (yet) support the ability for
CFML code to call up to Flex, which is obviously a bit simpler when
you are part of the same VM/web app.  We do fully support Flex
calling down to us to manage the Data Set.

But if you are talking about the *Messaging* feature of FDS, then
ColdFusion would most definitely meet your needs using the Flex
Messaging Gateway.  You can publish and subscribe to a Flex destination.

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[flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess

2006-01-05 Thread Tom Jordahl
Hello,

I am working on the ColdFusion MX 7 and Flex2 integration.  Here is
what we currently have scheduled to be available around the same time
as the next Flex2 beta.

- An update to the CFC Adapter that is currently available on
Macromedia labs.  This is mainly bug fixes, and updates to stay in
sync with the current Flex2 code.

- A CF Event Gateway Adapter for Flex2 and Flex Asynchronous Event
Gateway for CFMX7.  These two pieces together allow you to publish and
subscribe to Flex Enterprise Services destinations from a ColdFusion
Component.  You can publish messages from a Flex client that a CFC
will receive.  You can publish messages from CFML code that a Flex
client can see.  For an idea on how this can be used, see the Flex JMS
(Java Messaging Service) Adapter example.  This is for Async Messaging
and does not integrate ColdFusion with Flex Data Services (see below).

So the major new piece here is integration with the publish/subscribe
functionality in the Flex2 Messaging services.

We are also looking to create an adapter that will enable a ColdFusion
Component to be the back end to the Flex Data Services layer, similar
to the way Java Objects can currently be used.  I don't expect this to
be available at the same time as the next beta, but miracles can
happen. :)  Rest assured that we want to get this kind of
functionality into your hands and get as much feedback on it as we can.

FYI, we also are hard at work on some CF-specific Flex Builder 2
productivity extensions that should dramatically increase the
productivity of RIA construction for CF customers, and make the leap
to RIA development for CF customers new to RIA with Flex2 a super
easy, fun and productive experience, but more on that later :)  

Questions:
- Do you think you can use the pub/sub functionality as described?
- How do you envision a CFC backend to Flex2 Data services?

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Adobe ColdFusion Architect




--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Vinny Timmermans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi David,
  
 I am working on an Flex 2 /CFMX7 Enterprise project and my main
concern at
 the moment is whether the Flex Enterprise Gateway beta for CF,
announced at
 MAX, will be released at the same time as the Flex Enterprise
Services beta.
 In other words, can we get our hands dirty connecting the new Flex 2
 Dataservices with CFMX 7 Enterprise in a straightforward way in 3-5
weeks? 
  
 Best,
  
 Vinny
 
 
   _  
 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of David Mendels
 Sent: woensdag 4 januari 2006 22:15
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess
 
 
 Hi all,
  
 Good to hear you are eager.  The team is hard at work.  The next
beta will
 be a big leap forward.  I am not going to give a specific date or
commit to
 anything...we need to make sure the beta is ready before we ship it,
but I
 would expect it in 3-5 weeks. NO guarantee.
  
 In the meantime, I'd love to hear more about what kinds of projects
you are
 working on for Flex 2, were you using Flex 1.X or is this your first
Flex
 project, nature of team, high level impressions, concerns, etc.
  
 Regards,
 David
 Adobe
 
 
   _  
 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Jose (DSM) Lora
 Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:34 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess
 
 
 
 Same here, I have a development team waiting for that Beta
 
  
 
 
   _  
 
 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of sufibaba
 Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:15 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess
 
  
 
 Hi All,
 
 Can anyone give an estimate on when Flex 2 will be released?  It
 doesn't have to be a final word, just an approximate time.  We are
 working on a Flex 2 project that is being slowed to a halt do the many
 bugs in Flex Alpha.  
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Tim





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