Re: [flexcoders] Flex component that encapsulates DENG?
Flex needs a way to embed html based content in the app. As far as I know, no solution exists except IFRAMES. After trying everything I could think of for a week, I've come to the conclusion what's needed is a scalable component that uses something like DENG ( http://claus.packts.net/ ) to render HTML as a SWF. To be truly useful, the component would have to be able to render any foreign URL on demand, and at least do a decent job with most. It shouldn't be hard to plug DENG 1.0 into Flex 1.5 (it should be possible to even plug it into Flex 2 although you'd have to find a way for Flex 2 to communicate with DENG, or more generally, for AS3 to communicate with AS1/2 - the only way i can think of to do that is using wicked localconnection tricks). However, i don't think DENG 1.0 will be able to render any foreign URL (not 100% sure what you mean with that). Firstly, it expects wellformed XHTML (it won't render HTML), and secondly, the engine does not support the full CSS box and line box models (for example, we use the Flash TextField object to render inline level elements, and we do not support floats, absolute positioning and the likes - most of these limitations will be gone with DENG 2.0 though) Last I heard, Claus Co are ontop of it and have been holding out due to the limitations of pre-8.5 world of luv. We are currently in planning/standby/prototyping mode for DENG 2.0 (written in AS3). The reason we haven't announced anything yet are ongoing negotiations with some entities who are interested in funding DENG 2.0. The final product will be designed to plug seamlessly into Flex 2 (amongst many other things). cheers, claus. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex component that encapsulates DENG?
Last I heard, Claus Co are ontop of it and have been holding out due to the limitations of pre-8.5 world of luv. I've had a crack at it approx 6 times and i get overwhelmed by the complexities of turning FLEX code into an DOM Engine. I've managed to absorb parts of XHTML and render them accordingly, but no matter what we do, getting close to having a total browser display has limits. There are other movements out there that are kind of cheating in terms of producing HTML inside Flash. I've seen an interesting approach to this problem, using ICEBrowser and moving along the lines of Flash Paper approach. There are limitations though, especially with bullet lists and what not. I had a theory in that if you were to approach the problem with say ICEBrowser, and provided you are able to maintain seperation in terms of layers with TEXT and BITMAP you can then overlay interactive form controls with appropriate flex ones. The trick though is to loose the text as a sliced layer, and then overlay text much like the way flash paper does, but do so in a way that's consistent with the visual aspect of the site in which one is browsing? All pie in the sky stuff, but i'm holding out for DENG - 8.5 generation. On 9/7/05, David Mendels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'd love to see this. Deng wouldn't address all use cases for HTML in Flex (Christophe's iFrame trick is quite good for some but not all either), but it would be great to see implemented as a Flex component. It is open source now, so this community might want to have a go at it. -David Macromedia From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ocean Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:32 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex component that encapsulates DENG? Flex needs a way to embed html based content in the app. As far as I know, no solution exists except IFRAMES. After trying everything I could think of for a week, I've come to the conclusion what's needed is a scalable component that uses something like DENG ( http://claus.packts.net/ ) to render HTML as a SWF. To be truly useful, the component would have to be able to render any foreign URL on demand, and at least do a decent job with most. Thoughts anyone? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Flex component that encapsulates DENG?
Flex needs a way to embed htmlbased contentin the app. As far as I know, no solution exists except IFRAMES. After trying everything I could think of for a week,I've come to the conclusionwhat's needed is a scalable component that uses something like DENG ( http://claus.packts.net/ ) to render HTML as a SWF. To be truly useful, the component would have to be able to render any foreign URL on demand,and at least do a decent job with most. Thoughts anyone? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex component that encapsulates DENG?
Hi, I'd love to see this. Deng wouldn't address all use cases for HTML in Flex (Christophe's iFrame trick is quite good for some but not all either), but it would be great to see implemented as a Flex component. It is open source now, so this community might want to have a go at it. -David Macromedia From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve OceanSent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:32 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Flex component that encapsulates DENG? Flex needs a way to embed htmlbased contentin the app. As far as I know, no solution exists except IFRAMES. After trying everything I could think of for a week,I've come to the conclusionwhat's needed is a scalable component that uses something like DENG ( http://claus.packts.net/ ) to render HTML as a SWF. To be truly useful, the component would have to be able to render any "foreign" URL on demand,and at least do a decent job with most. Thoughts anyone? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex component that encapsulates DENG?
Steve, Here are a few additional options for you. HTMLDraw Server-side image renderer. It renders HTML on the server and ships an image as a proxy. This is good for static content and web clipping applications. http://www.websupergoo.com/abcdrawhtml-1.htm The guys over at websupergoo are great although this component requires a .NET component FLOW A small group of IFBIN developers (including myself) are working on porting Flow to Flex. Flow is an XML renderer that supports rendering graphic, components, and data supporting rich layout. It is 90% compatible with the mx namespace with a few exceptions mostly attributed to runtime rendering. Using XML you can render rich forms on the fly and add lots of content into Flex through existing static or dynamic application servers. Flow will ship with Flash By Example and Flex By Example at http://www.ifbin.com . Simple Example: http://www.powersdk.com/sample/flow/FlowEdit.swf More complex examples will be online in the coming weeks. ExternalInterface - The Iframe solution combined with Flash Player 8s External Interface is a very good option. EI allows you much more fine grained control over _javascript_ events/methods and provides more seamless integration given the synchronous events and callbacks. Cheers, Ted :) From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Ocean Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:32 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex component that encapsulates DENG? Flex needs a way to embed htmlbased contentin the app. As far as I know, no solution exists except IFRAMES. After trying everything I could think of for a week,I've come to the conclusionwhat's needed is a scalable component that uses something like DENG ( http://claus.packts.net/ ) to render HTML as a SWF. To be truly useful, the component would have to be able to render any foreign URL on demand,and at least do a decent job with most. Thoughts anyone? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
