Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

2009-06-17 Thread Clay W7CE
I hope that the Classic GUI look remains an option.  From the posts here, I 
know that many really like the new look, but I'm much more interested in an 
easy to read interface than a splashy skin.  I haven't installed Pretty 
Betty yet (I will probably try it next weekend), but from the screen shots 
I've seen there may be some low contrast color combinations that are hard 
for me to read.  After eight eye surgeries, my vision is actually quite 
good, but I don't do well with some color combinations now.


73,
Clay  W7CE

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From: Jim R rizzo...@hotmail.com
To: Gerald Y ger...@flex-radio.com; al.k...@yahoo.com; 
FlexRadioReflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz

Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation




Gerald
Thanks for the update. You mentioned that the pretty betty GUI will be 
included in the next release but will the Classic flex GUI still be an 
option. Call me dull, but I kind of like the classic interface. I have 
used pretty betty but find Some of functions more legible and easier to 
operate in the classic interface. Don't get me wrong, although pretty 
betty is a feast for the eyes, my personal preference is the classic 
interface. If anyone concurs, please speak up. I have stuck my neck out 
and have broken the ice. Is it just me?



Jim

K5HY








From: ger...@flex-radio.com
To: al.k...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:50:06 -0500
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter 
operatation


We at FlexRadio agree that the locked Panadapter is an important feature 
to

be added to PowerSDR. The most difficult part is to decide how to best
implement the control interface. We will implement this capability in the
Official Release that will include Pretty Betty and many DSP enhancements
such as Wide Band Image Rejection. This release will go into public beta 
in

the first part of August and Official Release in September.

In the interim, we plan to do an Official Release based on 1.18.1 next 
week
that has several important DSP improvements such as ALC, AGC, NR, ANF, 
etc.



We appreciate everyone's suggestions as we continue to enhance the 
features
and performance of the radios you already own. We have been doing this 
for

over six years and there is still no shortage of ideas for enhancement.

Regards,
Gerald

Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
President
FlexRadio Systems
13091 Pond Springs Rd. #250
Austin, TX 78729
Phone: 512-535-4713
www.flex-radio.com

Tune in excitement! (TM)


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Al K0VM
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:26 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

In various previous e-mails ...

-
The one gripe I have is the lack of an ability to lock the panadaptor.
Operating this radio is a very visual process, and I would lose the
pattern of activity when changing the main rx frequency. I realize I can
leave that alone and hunt with the sub-rx, but really it would be
desirable to have both freely available. I know this has been talked
about before, but I can't remember where to go to add my support to the
enhancement list.

Overall, a very positive experience.

-
and
-

I agree with NU8I's comments on the need to be able to lock the

panadapter.



Oh, no kidding! This is perhaps the biggest problem of PowerSDR. It
makes click-tune painfully difficult to use. You have to wait a second
or two until the waterfall display starts to repaint in order to see
what is going on and where the signals have moved. If Flex could fix
only one feature this would be it for me!



---

You can ALMOST do this now... If you wish to TEST DRIVE how this might
feel in operation (assumes no RX 2)

1. Set VFO A to center the pan adapter to the range of interest.
2. Set Multi RX on.. Turn down the VFO A RX volume (right hand vertical
slider in MulitRX box )
3. Enable SPLIT and 'show TX filter on Display'
4. Click the RIGHT mouse button twice to get the RED cross hairs in the
pan adapter.
5. Click the LEFT mouse button to set VFO B to the signal you wish to
listen to.
HINT: since most casual and net operation is on 1 Khz or 500 hz
intervals, set tune step size to 500.

CAVEATS: software limitations:
1. The mouse wheel currently only operates VFO A. To fine tune a signal
move your mouse pointer into the VFO B window then use the mouse wheel.
2. Drag tunning can not be used..
3. Only one RX (VFO B) is usable with this demo.
4. Its too easy to drop out of the VFO B ( read cross hair) click tune
control mode.

CAVEATS: hardware limitations.
1. The Spur Reduction algorithm attempts to avoid DDS spurs in the VFO A
RX area (i.e. DDS + 9KHZ if). You may need to toggle RS differently for

Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

2009-06-17 Thread Ron Kolarik
See the ball, feel the ball, BE THE BALL???

Ignoring the Zen aspects of this for the moment
a new Flex slogan is born. RADIO WITH BALLS
Sorry, was double dogged dared...you know who
you are :)

leaving quietly now
Ron
k0idt


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From: FireBrick w...@billnjudy.com
To: Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com; Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY




 Buy it, use it and see for your self!

 Neal Campbell
 Abroham Neal Software
 Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
 www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
 (540) 242 0911



 nice line Neal. Buy it, use it and seel for your self!


 I have seen no 'major' problems with RTTY as AFSK.
 I've learned to compensate for PWSDR VFO and Contest Software VFO not
 aggreeing. (doing math in my head is not my strongpoint)

 There is a 'slight' advantage to FSK in SUPERCROWDED contest settings as
 it's a tad narrowrer signal.


 But to match Neal;s Line.

 See the ball, feel the ball, BE THE BALL.


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[Flexradio] Dilemma

2009-06-17 Thread Ray Andrews, K9DUR
Okay, buys ( gals).  I have a serious dilemma.  My wife's FLEX-3000 is
scheduled to be delivered today.  Do I put the rewrite of the
SDRDataTransfer utility to support .XML files on hold while I set up her new
rig?  Or do I press on with the development  hire a good divorce lawyer?

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Re: [Flexradio] Dilemma

2009-06-17 Thread FireBrick

GET HER SETUP!

Then you may have to make runs for takeout food,
but
you should have a few hours of interupted software coding time..

When my wife's new computer, I did an all nighter getting all her 
programs/email set up...

Didn't get a single Honey do for 4 days. LOL



On 6/17/2009 6:38:26 AM, Ray Andrews, K9DUR (k9...@rnacs.com) wrote:

Okay, buys ( gals).  I have a serious dilemma.  My wife's FLEX-3000 is
scheduled to be delivered today.  Do I put the rewrite of the
SDRDataTransfer utility to support .XML files on hold while I set up her 
new

rig?  Or do I press on with the development  hire a good divorce lawyer?

73, Ray, K9DUR



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Re: [Flexradio] Dilemma

2009-06-17 Thread Tim Ellison
Its a no brainer.  I have met your lovely wife and you need to shut down the 
IDE, step away from the code editor and setup with the FLEX-3000.  Save some of 
the money ear marked for the lawyer for the upcoming FLEX-5000 V/U Module :-)  
We can wait a few days on the XMLed version of SDR-DT. 

Enjoy!

-Tim

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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ray Andrews, K9DUR
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:38 AM
To: Flex-Radio E-Mail Reflector
Subject: [Flexradio] Dilemma

Okay, buys ( gals).  I have a serious dilemma.  My wife's FLEX-3000 is 
scheduled to be delivered today.  Do I put the rewrite of the SDRDataTransfer 
utility to support .XML files on hold while I set up her new rig?  Or do I 
press on with the development  hire a good divorce lawyer?

73, Ray, K9DUR



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Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

2009-06-17 Thread Ray Andrews, K9DUR
Jim,

No, it is not just you.  I guess you like what you are used to.  I am used
to the current GUI  prefer it.  Like you, I am not opposed to the
snazzy-looking Pretty Betty skins.  I use them from time-to-time.  But, I
would prefer that we had to option of choosing either the classic GUI or one
of the new skins.  However, as a software developer, I understand how that
may be somewhat difficult depending on how the new skins are implemented.  

73, Ray, K9DUR




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Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

2009-06-17 Thread Tim Ellison
[Off Topic]

Ron,

Boy, did you hit the nostalgia button for me. As a teenager and young ham the 
mid 70s in Charlotte NC, there was a really progressive sun up to sun down 
underground AM radio station, WRPL 1540 (the Ripple) that played the rock and 
roll that the FM stations would not dare to (Frank Zappa, Grateful Dead, Pink 
Floyd, etc...) and their slogan was WRPL, Radio with Balls! which came with a 
cool poster of just about every ball you could imagine on it.  Innocent, but 
the message was clear.  The ad campaign was so risqué for sleepy ol' 
Charlotte back then, that the local government partitioned the FCC to shut them 
and the ad campaign down.  They never did.  WRPL eventually faded away because 
one of the local FM radio stations (WROQ) converted to album rock and started 
playing the really cool music late at night and stereo was much better than 
mono on AM.  I still have that poster some where. You could go to the little 
studio on East Morehead St. and sit in the control booth with the engineer, who 
was also a ham, but I forget the call.  While on the Charlotte in the 70s 
nostalgia kick, there was the Chronosynclastic Infundibulum, but that is a 
different story  A, the good ol' daze.

-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ron Kolarik
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:01 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

See the ball, feel the ball, BE THE BALL???

Ignoring the Zen aspects of this for the moment a new Flex slogan is born. 
RADIO WITH BALLS
Sorry, was double dogged dared...you know who you are :)

leaving quietly now
Ron
k0idt


- Original Message -
From: FireBrick w...@billnjudy.com
To: Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com; Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY




 Buy it, use it and see for your self!

 Neal Campbell
 Abroham Neal Software
 Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
 www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
 (540) 242 0911



 nice line Neal. Buy it, use it and seel for your self!


 I have seen no 'major' problems with RTTY as AFSK.
 I've learned to compensate for PWSDR VFO and Contest Software VFO not
 aggreeing. (doing math in my head is not my strongpoint)

 There is a 'slight' advantage to FSK in SUPERCROWDED contest settings as
 it's a tad narrowrer signal.


 But to match Neal;s Line.

 See the ball, feel the ball, BE THE BALL.


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Re: [Flexradio] Dilemma

2009-06-17 Thread José Dumoulin
Hi Ray, I understand that it is not easy to come to a decision here. 
Take heart !


73
José F5JD

Ray Andrews, K9DUR a écrit :

Okay, buys ( gals).  I have a serious dilemma.  My wife's FLEX-3000 is
scheduled to be delivered today.  Do I put the rewrite of the
SDRDataTransfer utility to support .XML files on hold while I set up her new
rig?  Or do I press on with the development  hire a good divorce lawyer?

73, Ray, K9DUR



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Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

2009-06-17 Thread Sanger, Joseph
I don't disagree!

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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
To: Gerald Y ger...@flex-radio.com; al.k...@yahoo.com al.k...@yahoo.com; 
FlexRadioReflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Wed Jun 17 00:27:55 2009
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation


Gerald
Thanks for the update. You mentioned that the pretty betty GUI will be included 
in the next release but will the Classic flex GUI still be an option. Call me 
dull, but I kind of like the classic interface. I have used pretty betty but 
find Some of functions more legible and easier to operate in the classic 
interface. Don't get me wrong, although pretty betty is a feast for the eyes, 
my personal preference is the classic interface. If anyone concurs, please 
speak up. I have stuck my neck out and have broken the ice. Is it just me?


Jim

K5HY







 From: ger...@flex-radio.com
 To: al.k...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:50:06 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

 We at FlexRadio agree that the locked Panadapter is an important feature to
 be added to PowerSDR. The most difficult part is to decide how to best
 implement the control interface. We will implement this capability in the
 Official Release that will include Pretty Betty and many DSP enhancements
 such as Wide Band Image Rejection. This release will go into public beta in
 the first part of August and Official Release in September.

 In the interim, we plan to do an Official Release based on 1.18.1 next week
 that has several important DSP improvements such as ALC, AGC, NR, ANF, etc.


 We appreciate everyone's suggestions as we continue to enhance the features
 and performance of the radios you already own. We have been doing this for
 over six years and there is still no shortage of ideas for enhancement.

 Regards,
 Gerald

 Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
 President
 FlexRadio Systems
 13091 Pond Springs Rd. #250
 Austin, TX 78729
 Phone: 512-535-4713
 www.flex-radio.com

 Tune in excitement! (TM)


 -Original Message-
 From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
 [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Al K0VM
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:26 AM
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

 In various previous e-mails ...

 -
 The one gripe I have is the lack of an ability to lock the panadaptor.
 Operating this radio is a very visual process, and I would lose the
 pattern of activity when changing the main rx frequency. I realize I can
 leave that alone and hunt with the sub-rx, but really it would be
 desirable to have both freely available. I know this has been talked
 about before, but I can't remember where to go to add my support to the
 enhancement list.

 Overall, a very positive experience.

 -
 and
 -
 I agree with NU8I's comments on the need to be able to lock the
 panadapter.


 Oh, no kidding! This is perhaps the biggest problem of PowerSDR. It
 makes click-tune painfully difficult to use. You have to wait a second
 or two until the waterfall display starts to repaint in order to see
 what is going on and where the signals have moved. If Flex could fix
 only one feature this would be it for me!


 ---

 You can ALMOST do this now... If you wish to TEST DRIVE how this might
 feel in operation (assumes no RX 2)

 1. Set VFO A to center the pan adapter to the range of interest.
 2. Set Multi RX on.. Turn down the VFO A RX volume (right hand vertical
 slider in MulitRX box )
 3. Enable SPLIT and 'show TX filter on Display'
 4. Click the RIGHT mouse button twice to get the RED cross hairs in the
 pan adapter.
 5. Click the LEFT mouse button to set VFO B to the signal you wish to
 listen to.
 HINT: since most casual and net operation is on 1 Khz or 500 hz
 intervals, set tune step size to 500.

 CAVEATS: software limitations:
 1. The mouse wheel currently only operates VFO A. To fine tune a signal
 move your mouse pointer into the VFO B window then use the mouse wheel.
 2. Drag tunning can not be used..
 3. Only one RX (VFO B) is usable with this demo.
 4. Its too easy to drop out of the VFO B ( read cross hair) click tune
 control mode.

 CAVEATS: hardware limitations.
 1. The Spur Reduction algorithm attempts to avoid DDS spurs in the VFO A
 RX area (i.e. DDS + 9KHZ if). You may need to toggle RS differently for
 VFO B RX than for VFO A RX.
 2. The RX Image rejection is optimal for VFO A RX (i.e. DDS + 9KHZ if).
 Image Rejection for VFO B RX may not be as good..
 ( I am not sure how WBIR effects this observation.)
 3. If VFO B RX is tuned to the DDS frequency ( VFO A - 9KHZ if), it will
 be tuned to the 0KHZ (DC) IF frequency.
 Each of these hardware Caveats is particularly noticeable with then
 SDR-1000, not so 

Re: [Flexradio] Test Branch SVN 3166 improved QSK?

2009-06-17 Thread Bob McGwier
Yes, but the changes you are referring to actually occurred in 3160.  I 
contend you just didn't svn up until 3166 after I made those changes.



There have been two major improvements in CW recently in the test 
branch.  These are being beat up and more done before they are released. 
Thanks for the feedback.  This will all be in the upcoming stable release.


Bob

knesbitt wrote:

John,
this is a major break through if in fact its reproducible. What more 
have you learned since your original post (I see no comments in this 
regard on the reflecto).

Bob, come up for air and fess up for your actions.

Kirb - VE6IV
--

The latest Test Branch SVN 3166, which according to the change log,  
redone

vfo initialization, seems to improve the CW QSK significantly. The TXRX
transition sounds  better on the audio, no pop, now smooth sounding.  My
Delay at 15ms seems best  and quick.

I can also now set the Sample Rate at 192K and Buffer to 1024 with no 
issues
, whereas before I had to use  192/2048.   I don't understand what 
N4HY is
doing on Test branch SVN 3166, don't know if it is supposed to impact 
the CW

QSK, but it appears to improve the fast QSK.

73 John N3WT



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Re: [Flexradio] Dilemma

2009-06-17 Thread Bob McGwier
She who must be obeyed ALWAYS comes first.  Just ask her.  If you need 
outside information, just ask N2HPE.


Bob
N4HY

Ray Andrews, K9DUR wrote:

Okay, buys ( gals).  I have a serious dilemma.  My wife's FLEX-3000 is
scheduled to be delivered today.  Do I put the rewrite of the
SDRDataTransfer utility to support .XML files on hold while I set up her new
rig?  Or do I press on with the development  hire a good divorce lawyer?

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Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

2009-06-17 Thread Bob McGwier

David Beumer W0DHB wrote:

Gerald

Do you know yet if the September release will be VS 2008 and 64 bit OS 
compatible ?


Thanks
Dave
W0DHB



That is the goal of the software developers without the gravitas of a 
promise from the CEO.  We think we can.  The month of July is a big month.


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[Flexradio] September release

2009-06-17 Thread Joe Roth-WC4R
WOW! Pretty Betty... VS 2008... 64-bit... improved CW... panadaper lock...
!!
Coming in September. 

Holy crap I love this FlexRadio. The radio and SUPPORT blows away
my ol' TT Orion. I sure don't miss the Orion.
Thanks Flex!!
Joe - WC4R 


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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bob McGwier
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:35 AM
To: David Beumer W0DHB
Cc: 'Al K0VM'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

David Beumer W0DHB wrote:
 Gerald

 Do you know yet if the September release will be VS 2008 and 64 bit OS 
 compatible ?

 Thanks
 Dave
 W0DHB


That is the goal of the software developers without the gravitas of a 
promise from the CEO.  We think we can.  The month of July is a big month.

Bob

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Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

2009-06-17 Thread Dale Boresz

Tim,

...there was the Chronosynclastic Infundibulum

a fellow Kurt Vonnegut Jr. fan, eh?  :-)

Dale



Tim Ellison wrote:

[Off Topic]

Ron,

Boy, did you hit the nostalgia button for me. As a teenager and young ham the mid 70s in Charlotte NC, there 
was a really progressive sun up to sun down underground AM radio station, WRPL 1540 (the Ripple) 
that played the rock and roll that the FM stations would not dare to (Frank Zappa, Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, 
etc...) and their slogan was WRPL, Radio with Balls! which came with a cool poster of just about 
every ball you could imagine on it.  Innocent, but the message was clear.  The ad campaign was so 
risqué for sleepy ol' Charlotte back then, that the local government partitioned the FCC to shut 
them and the ad campaign down.  They never did.  WRPL eventually faded away because one of the local FM radio 
stations (WROQ) converted to album rock and started playing the really cool music late at night and stereo 
was much better than mono on AM.  I still have that poster some where. You could go to the little studio on 
East Morehead St. and sit in the control booth with the engineer, who was also a ham, but I forget the call.  
While on the Charlotte in the 70s nostalgia kick, there was the Chronosynclastic Infundibulum, but that is a 
different story  A, the good ol' daze.

-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ron Kolarik
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:01 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

See the ball, feel the ball, BE THE BALL???

Ignoring the Zen aspects of this for the moment a new Flex slogan is born. RADIO 
WITH BALLS
Sorry, was double dogged dared...you know who you are :)

leaving quietly now
Ron
k0idt


- Original Message -
From: FireBrick w...@billnjudy.com
To: Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com; Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY


  

Buy it, use it and see for your self!

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 242 0911



nice line Neal. Buy it, use it and seel for your self!


I have seen no 'major' problems with RTTY as AFSK.
I've learned to compensate for PWSDR VFO and Contest Software VFO not
aggreeing. (doing math in my head is not my strongpoint)

There is a 'slight' advantage to FSK in SUPERCROWDED contest settings as
it's a tad narrowrer signal.


But to match Neal;s Line.

See the ball, feel the ball, BE THE BALL.




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Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

2009-06-17 Thread Dale Boresz

or was that Douglas Adams, from the Hitchhikers Guide ?

Either way, good stuff.

Dale

Dale Boresz wrote:

Tim,

...there was the Chronosynclastic Infundibulum

a fellow Kurt Vonnegut Jr. fan, eh?  :-)

Dale



Tim Ellison wrote:

[Off Topic]

Ron,

Boy, did you hit the nostalgia button for me. As a teenager and young 
ham the mid 70s in Charlotte NC, there was a really progressive sun 
up to sun down underground AM radio station, WRPL 1540 (the Ripple) 
that played the rock and roll that the FM stations would not dare to 
(Frank Zappa, Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, etc...) and their slogan was 
WRPL, Radio with Balls! which came with a cool poster of just about 
every ball you could imagine on it.  Innocent, but the message was 
clear.  The ad campaign was so risqué for sleepy ol' Charlotte back 
then, that the local government partitioned the FCC to shut them and 
the ad campaign down.  They never did.  WRPL eventually faded away 
because one of the local FM radio stations (WROQ) converted to album 
rock and started playing the really cool music late at night and 
stereo was much better than mono on AM.  I still have that poster 
some where. You could go to the little studio on East Morehead St. 
and sit in the control booth with the engineer, who was also a ham, 
but I forget the call.  While on the Charlotte in the 70s nostalgia 
kick, there was the Chronosynclastic Infundibulum, but that is a 
different story  A, the good ol' daze.


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ron Kolarik

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:01 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

See the ball, feel the ball, BE THE BALL???

Ignoring the Zen aspects of this for the moment a new Flex slogan is 
born. RADIO WITH BALLS

Sorry, was double dogged dared...you know who you are :)

leaving quietly now
Ron
k0idt


- Original Message -
From: FireBrick w...@billnjudy.com
To: Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com; Tim Ellison 
telli...@itsco.com

Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY


 

Buy it, use it and see for your self!

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 242 0911



nice line Neal. Buy it, use it and seel for your self!


I have seen no 'major' problems with RTTY as AFSK.
I've learned to compensate for PWSDR VFO and Contest Software VFO not
aggreeing. (doing math in my head is not my strongpoint)

There is a 'slight' advantage to FSK in SUPERCROWDED contest 
settings as

it's a tad narrowrer signal.


But to match Neal;s Line.

See the ball, feel the ball, BE THE BALL.




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Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

2009-06-17 Thread Tim Ellison
It was Kurt.  In The Sirens of Titan.



-Tim

-Original Message-
From: Dale Boresz [mailto:d...@lightstream.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:29 AM
To: Tim Ellison
Cc: Ron Kolarik; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

or was that Douglas Adams, from the Hitchhikers Guide ?

Either way, good stuff.

Dale

Dale Boresz wrote:
 Tim,

 ...there was the Chronosynclastic Infundibulum

 a fellow Kurt Vonnegut Jr. fan, eh?  :-)

 Dale



 Tim Ellison wrote:
 [Off Topic]

 Ron,

 Boy, did you hit the nostalgia button for me. As a teenager and young 
 ham the mid 70s in Charlotte NC, there was a really progressive sun 
 up to sun down underground AM radio station, WRPL 1540 (the Ripple) 
 that played the rock and roll that the FM stations would not dare to 
 (Frank Zappa, Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, etc...) and their slogan was 
 WRPL, Radio with Balls! which came with a cool poster of just about 
 every ball you could imagine on it.  Innocent, but the message was 
 clear.  The ad campaign was so risqué for sleepy ol' Charlotte back 
 then, that the local government partitioned the FCC to shut them and 
 the ad campaign down.  They never did.  WRPL eventually faded away 
 because one of the local FM radio stations (WROQ) converted to album 
 rock and started playing the really cool music late at night and 
 stereo was much better than mono on AM.  I still have that poster 
 some where. You could go to the little studio on East Morehead St.
 and sit in the control booth with the engineer, who was also a ham, 
 but I forget the call.  While on the Charlotte in the 70s nostalgia 
 kick, there was the Chronosynclastic Infundibulum, but that is a 
 different story  A, the good ol' daze.

 -Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
 [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ron Kolarik
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:01 AM
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

 See the ball, feel the ball, BE THE BALL???

 Ignoring the Zen aspects of this for the moment a new Flex slogan is 
 born. RADIO WITH BALLS
 Sorry, was double dogged dared...you know who you are :)

 leaving quietly now
 Ron
 k0idt


 - Original Message -
 From: FireBrick w...@billnjudy.com
 To: Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com; Tim Ellison 
 telli...@itsco.com
 Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY


  
 Buy it, use it and see for your self!

 Neal Campbell
 Abroham Neal Software
 Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux 
 www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
 (540) 242 0911



 nice line Neal. Buy it, use it and seel for your self!


 I have seen no 'major' problems with RTTY as AFSK.
 I've learned to compensate for PWSDR VFO and Contest Software VFO 
 not aggreeing. (doing math in my head is not my strongpoint)

 There is a 'slight' advantage to FSK in SUPERCROWDED contest 
 settings as it's a tad narrowrer signal.


 But to match Neal;s Line.

 See the ball, feel the ball, BE THE BALL.
 


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Re: [Flexradio] Test Branch SVN 3166 improved QSK?

2009-06-17 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, but the changes you are referring to actually occurred in 3160.  I 
 contend you just didn't svn up until 3166 after I made those changes.


 There have been two major improvements in CW recently in the test branch.  
 These are being beat up and more done before they are released. Thanks for 
 the feedback.  This will all be in the upcoming stable release.

Test Branch SVN 3160 works fine. SVN 3166 and 3167 still appear
broken. Any idea what happened between 3160 and 3166 to cause the
problem?


73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL

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Re: [Flexradio] Test Branch SVN 3166 improved QSK?

2009-06-17 Thread Tim Ellison
3164 still works here (although there are a few minor WBIR issues) 



-Tim

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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:13 PM
To: Bob McGwier
Cc: k.nesb...@shaw.ca; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Test Branch SVN 3166 improved QSK?

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, but the changes you are referring to actually occurred in 3160.  I 
 contend you just didn't svn up until 3166 after I made those changes.


 There have been two major improvements in CW recently in the test branch.  
 These are being beat up and more done before they are released. Thanks for 
 the feedback.  This will all be in the upcoming stable release.

Test Branch SVN 3160 works fine. SVN 3166 and 3167 still appear broken. Any 
idea what happened between 3160 and 3166 to cause the problem?


73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL

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Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

2009-06-17 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Jim R rizzo...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Gerald
 Thanks for the update. You mentioned that the pretty betty GUI will be 
 included in the next release but will the Classic flex GUI still be an 
 option. Call me dull, but I kind of like the classic interface. I have used 
 pretty betty but find Some of functions more legible and easier to operate in 
 the classic interface. Don't get me wrong, although pretty betty is a feast 
 for the eyes, my personal preference is the classic interface. If anyone 
 concurs, please speak up. I have stuck my neck out and have broken the ice. 
 Is it just me?

No Jim, I agree with you 100%. Contrast and edge-definition makes the
controls easier to spot with your eyes. Also anything that leaves more
processing power to the radio functions is strongly to be desired. I
don't want to give up a single CPU cycle to eye-candy if I don't
have to.

73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL




 Jim

 K5HY






 
  From: ger...@flex-radio.com
  To: al.k...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
  Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:50:06 -0500
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation
 
  We at FlexRadio agree that the locked Panadapter is an important feature to
  be added to PowerSDR. The most difficult part is to decide how to best
  implement the control interface. We will implement this capability in the
  Official Release that will include Pretty Betty and many DSP enhancements
  such as Wide Band Image Rejection. This release will go into public beta in
  the first part of August and Official Release in September.
 
  In the interim, we plan to do an Official Release based on 1.18.1 next week
  that has several important DSP improvements such as ALC, AGC, NR, ANF, etc.
 
 
  We appreciate everyone's suggestions as we continue to enhance the features
  and performance of the radios you already own. We have been doing this for
  over six years and there is still no shortage of ideas for enhancement.
 
  Regards,
  Gerald
 
  Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
  President
  FlexRadio Systems
  13091 Pond Springs Rd. #250
  Austin, TX 78729
  Phone: 512-535-4713
  www.flex-radio.com
 
  Tune in excitement! (TM)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
  [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Al K0VM
  Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:26 AM
  To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
  Subject: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation
 
  In various previous e-mails ...
 
  -
  The one gripe I have is the lack of an ability to lock the panadaptor.
  Operating this radio is a very visual process, and I would lose the
  pattern of activity when changing the main rx frequency. I realize I can
  leave that alone and hunt with the sub-rx, but really it would be
  desirable to have both freely available. I know this has been talked
  about before, but I can't remember where to go to add my support to the
  enhancement list.
 
  Overall, a very positive experience.
 
  -
  and
  -
  I agree with NU8I's comments on the need to be able to lock the
  panadapter.
 
 
  Oh, no kidding! This is perhaps the biggest problem of PowerSDR. It
  makes click-tune painfully difficult to use. You have to wait a second
  or two until the waterfall display starts to repaint in order to see
  what is going on and where the signals have moved. If Flex could fix
  only one feature this would be it for me!
 
 
  ---
 
  You can ALMOST do this now... If you wish to TEST DRIVE how this might
  feel in operation (assumes no RX 2)
 
  1. Set VFO A to center the pan adapter to the range of interest.
  2. Set Multi RX on.. Turn down the VFO A RX volume (right hand vertical
  slider in MulitRX box )
  3. Enable SPLIT and 'show TX filter on Display'
  4. Click the RIGHT mouse button twice to get the RED cross hairs in the
  pan adapter.
  5. Click the LEFT mouse button to set VFO B to the signal you wish to
  listen to.
  HINT: since most casual and net operation is on 1 Khz or 500 hz
  intervals, set tune step size to 500.
 
  CAVEATS: software limitations:
  1. The mouse wheel currently only operates VFO A. To fine tune a signal
  move your mouse pointer into the VFO B window then use the mouse wheel.
  2. Drag tunning can not be used..
  3. Only one RX (VFO B) is usable with this demo.
  4. Its too easy to drop out of the VFO B ( read cross hair) click tune
  control mode.
 
  CAVEATS: hardware limitations.
  1. The Spur Reduction algorithm attempts to avoid DDS spurs in the VFO A
  RX area (i.e. DDS + 9KHZ if). You may need to toggle RS differently for
  VFO B RX than for VFO A RX.
  2. The RX Image rejection is optimal for VFO A RX (i.e. DDS + 9KHZ if).
  Image Rejection for VFO B RX may not be as good..
  ( I am not sure how WBIR effects this observation.)
  3. If VFO B RX is tuned to the DDS frequency ( VFO 

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-17 Thread Dudley Hurry
It has been reported that if you see the panadapter jump for normal to 
flat line about every second or so..   To get out of these situation, 
change the Sample rate to a different sample and then back.   I've seen 
this on the 3K and 5K intermittently.   I can't explain why,  but the 
change in sample rate seems to help. 


73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Brian Lloyd wrote:

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote:
  

Yes, but the changes you are referring to actually occurred in 3160.  I contend 
you just didn't svn up until 3166 after I made those changes.


There have been two major improvements in CW recently in the test branch.  
These are being beat up and more done before they are released. Thanks for the 
feedback.  This will all be in the upcoming stable release.



Test Branch SVN 3160 works fine. SVN 3166 and 3167 still appear
broken. Any idea what happened between 3160 and 3166 to cause the
problem?


73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL

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Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

2009-06-17 Thread Neal Campbell K3NC
Man I was so sad when Kurt died last year (or was it the year before?)  
Talk about an icon of my youth, he was top of my bookshelf for many  
years. It was how i knew my wife and I were suited as her favorite  
book of all time was Breakfast of Champions.


I have to go to the library and pick this book up!

Neal Campbell K3NC
nealk...@gmail.com

telnet to our DX Spotting clusters at: dxc.k3nc.com, port  23

PVRC 5M Award Manager
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On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Tim Ellison wrote:


It was Kurt.  In The Sirens of Titan.



-Tim

-Original Message-
From: Dale Boresz [mailto:d...@lightstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:29 AM
To: Tim Ellison
Cc: Ron Kolarik; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

or was that Douglas Adams, from the Hitchhikers Guide ?

Either way, good stuff.

Dale

Dale Boresz wrote:

Tim,

...there was the Chronosynclastic Infundibulum

a fellow Kurt Vonnegut Jr. fan, eh?  :-)

Dale



Tim Ellison wrote:

[Off Topic]

Ron,

Boy, did you hit the nostalgia button for me. As a teenager and  
young

ham the mid 70s in Charlotte NC, there was a really progressive sun
up to sun down underground AM radio station, WRPL 1540 (the Ripple)
that played the rock and roll that the FM stations would not dare to
(Frank Zappa, Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, etc...) and their slogan  
was
WRPL, Radio with Balls! which came with a cool poster of just  
about

every ball you could imagine on it.  Innocent, but the message was
clear.  The ad campaign was so risqué for sleepy ol' Charlotte  
back

then, that the local government partitioned the FCC to shut them and
the ad campaign down.  They never did.  WRPL eventually faded away
because one of the local FM radio stations (WROQ) converted to album
rock and started playing the really cool music late at night and
stereo was much better than mono on AM.  I still have that poster
some where. You could go to the little studio on East Morehead St.
and sit in the control booth with the engineer, who was also a ham,
but I forget the call.  While on the Charlotte in the 70s nostalgia
kick, there was the Chronosynclastic Infundibulum, but that is a
different story  A, the good ol' daze.

-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ron Kolarik
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:01 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY

See the ball, feel the ball, BE THE BALL???

Ignoring the Zen aspects of this for the moment a new Flex slogan is
born. RADIO WITH BALLS
Sorry, was double dogged dared...you know who you are :)

leaving quietly now
Ron
k0idt


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From: FireBrick w...@billnjudy.com
To: Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com; Tim Ellison
telli...@itsco.com
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 3000 and RTTY




Buy it, use it and see for your self!

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 242 0911



nice line Neal. Buy it, use it and seel for your self!


I have seen no 'major' problems with RTTY as AFSK.
I've learned to compensate for PWSDR VFO and Contest Software VFO
not aggreeing. (doing math in my head is not my strongpoint)

There is a 'slight' advantage to FSK in SUPERCROWDED contest
settings as it's a tad narrowrer signal.


But to match Neal;s Line.

See the ball, feel the ball, BE THE BALL.




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Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

2009-06-17 Thread Alfred Green

Jim R wrote:

Gerald
Thanks for the update. You mentioned that the pretty betty GUI will be included in the next release 
but will the Classic flex GUI still be an option. Call me dull, but I kind of like the 
classic interface. I have used pretty betty but find Some of functions more legible and easier to 
operate in the classic interface. Don't get me wrong, although pretty betty is a feast for the 
eyes, my personal preference is the classic interface. If anyone concurs, please speak up. I have 
stuck my neck out and have broken the ice. Is it just me?


  
I can appreciate the great work that went into producing the new skins, 
but I also prefer to stay with the classic screen. I am very much a 
'function before form' kind of guy, so what gets the job done best is 
ahead of any fancy appearance. I find the new look somewhat distracting, 
but that may lessen with familiarity.


73  Alf  NU8I

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Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

2009-06-17 Thread Duane - N9DG


--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com wrote:

  Contrast and edge-definition
 makes the
 controls easier to spot with your eyes. Also anything that
 leaves more
 processing power to the radio functions is strongly to be
 desired. I
 don't want to give up a single CPU cycle to eye-candy if
 I don't have to.

Yes I 100% agree. And the comment about contrast and edge-definition squarely 
hits the nail on the head. That is one of everal things that I really dislike 
about the progress bars, icons etc, of the Windows Vista's UI defaults (and 
many other new software products in general as far as that goes). Everytime I 
work with Vista in the lab at work the screen looks like a collection of 
mushy objects and blurry lines. And the melted/polished glass look of the 
icons, progress bars, etc. I also find to be straining on the eyes, and not the 
least bit of any improvement - in fact I see it as being a general step 
backward in UI design and looks because it seeks to make you focus on the 
item (picture) on the computer screen as a real world object. I don't want 
that. I want to look/see *beyond* the item *on* the computer screen and instead 
optimize the presentation of what the water/panadapter is actually 
representing. In short I don't want to see pictures of
 physical objects - I want to let the computer and the program's UI to show 
me the abstract, or in other words, the things that I cannot normally see, 
i.e. RF spectrum.

The idealized look of the UI for me is a nearly 100% screen sized 
padapter/waterfall with a an absolute minimum of controls around it. I'm also 
becoming increasingly convinced that virtually all of the adjustments that I 
would want to routinely make can be done from *within* the visual space of the 
panadapter/waterfall itself.

As a side note: I'm finally getting some time to actually run this stuff again 
after a lengthy shack all dismantled downtime. Currently am re-familiarizing 
myself with the PowerSDR version that I had last used - 1.12 (yes that far 
back). I soon plan to warp ahead a year or so to the current released version + 
the various SVN's. I expect that experience to be very enlightening given my 
hands on absence from the 1000/5000a  PowerSDR for the better part of a 
year..

Duane
N9DG



  

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Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

2009-06-17 Thread k4elo
AN i7 would do it Scott.  I'm running a Xeon W3540 which has the same
specs and Pretty Betty shows an average cpu utilization of about 5%
listening on 40m ssb.

73
Wayne

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:52 -0400, Scott McClements kc2...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Let me clarify my point that CPU usage has been steadily on the rise
 in every release of PowerSDR.  I think I saw Eric say he saw a 3% jump
 for skins support.  My 30% was from a really old version to pretty
 betty, which encompasses a lot of changes, not just skins.  -Scott,
 WU2X
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Scott McClementskc2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Well I guess you can't please all the people all the time. I think the
  whole point of skins is that *any* look *is* possible. I can
  definitely say that CPU usage is on the rise with these changes. On my
  single core machine, CPU usage on Pretty Betty is 30% higher (on
  average) than it was with version 1.10. In fact that makes 192Khz
  nearly unusable now. But - computers become outdated, newer software
  relies on faster machines and more cores. Now I have a good reason to
  stimulate the economy and get a new Intel i7 machine.
 
  -Scott WU2X
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Duane - N9DGn...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
  --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com wrote:
 
   Contrast and edge-definition
  makes the
  controls easier to spot with your eyes. Also anything that
  leaves more
  processing power to the radio functions is strongly to be
  desired. I
  don't want to give up a single CPU cycle to eye-candy if
  I don't have to.
 
  Yes I 100% agree. And the comment about contrast and edge-definition 
  squarely hits the nail on the head. That is one of everal things that I 
  really dislike about the progress bars, icons etc, of the Windows Vista's 
  UI defaults (and many other new software products in general as far as 
  that goes). Everytime I work with Vista in the lab at work the screen 
  looks like a collection of mushy objects and blurry lines. And the 
  melted/polished glass look of the icons, progress bars, etc. I also find 
  to be straining on the eyes, and not the least bit of any improvement - in 
  fact I see it as being a general step backward in UI design and looks 
  because it seeks to make you focus on the item (picture) on the computer 
  screen as a real world object. I don't want that. I want to look/see 
  *beyond* the item *on* the computer screen and instead optimize the 
  presentation of what the water/panadapter is actually representing. In 
  short I don't want to see pictures of
   physical objects - I want to let the computer and the program's UI to 
  show me the abstract, or in other words, the things that I cannot 
  normally see, i.e. RF spectrum.
 
  The idealized look of the UI for me is a nearly 100% screen sized 
  padapter/waterfall with a an absolute minimum of controls around it. I'm 
  also becoming increasingly convinced that virtually all of the adjustments 
  that I would want to routinely make can be done from *within* the visual 
  space of the panadapter/waterfall itself.
 
  As a side note: I'm finally getting some time to actually run this stuff 
  again after a lengthy shack all dismantled downtime. Currently am 
  re-familiarizing myself with the PowerSDR version that I had last used - 
  1.12 (yes that far back). I soon plan to warp ahead a year or so to the 
  current released version + the various SVN's. I expect that experience to 
  be very enlightening given my hands on absence from the 1000/5000a  
  PowerSDR for the better part of a year..
 
  Duane
  N9DG
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-17 Thread Ross Stenberg
Confirmed here if that means anything. Just showed up on the last test SVN 
at 3167.


- Original Message - 
From: Dudley Hurry jhu...@austin.rr.com

To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher


It has been reported that if you see the panadapter jump for normal to 
flat line about every second or so..   To get out of these situation, 
change the Sample rate to a different sample and then back.   I've seen 
this on the 3K and 5K intermittently.   I can't explain why,  but the 
change in sample rate seems to help.

73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Brian Lloyd wrote:

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, but the changes you are referring to actually occurred in 3160.  I 
contend you just didn't svn up until 3166 after I made those changes.



There have been two major improvements in CW recently in the test 
branch.  These are being beat up and more done before they are released. 
Thanks for the feedback.  This will all be in the upcoming stable 
release.




Test Branch SVN 3160 works fine. SVN 3166 and 3167 still appear
broken. Any idea what happened between 3160 and 3166 to cause the
problem?


73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL



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Re: [Flexradio] Optimizing DSP for Digital and other modes

2009-06-17 Thread Eric Wachsmann
The operating manual available on our website has a complete description of
these controls.  In general, I would recommend using the defaults.  They are
there for mainly for experimentation.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems
*Tune in Excitment! ™*

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Scott Myers ac...@ameritech.net wrote:

 I looked around the Knowledge base looking for info on optimizing the DSP
 settings in PowerSDR's set-up.  I'm operating a Flex-3000.  I haven't found
 anything yet on searches for this subject.

 There are several settings in the set-up, like Taps, Delay  Gain.



 I don't know if I should worry about these, but certainly being informed
 about their meaning would go along way to determining if they should be
 messed with.  I would think these should change slightly depending upon
 mode
 of operation, but I don't know.



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Re: [Flexradio] thanks for the baseline pumping fix

2009-06-17 Thread Ross Stenberg

I should have read the next Email, all is well in the land of Oz now.

- Original Message - 
From: FireBrick w...@billnjudy.com

To: FlexRadio List flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] thanks for the baseline pumping fix



As usual, you can expect the Flexonians to rush to the rescue.
The new svn cures the 'baseline pumping' and the TEST svn is back in 
business cqing it's little heart out on 6 meters.



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[Flexradio] windows 7 blog

2009-06-17 Thread Steve Jones
here is an interesting article on W7 and audio glitches


http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/06/17/improving-audio-glitch-resilience-in-windows-7.aspx
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Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-17 Thread Bob McGwier

Hello friends of Flex!

blip/flip fixed in SVN 3170 in the test branch. BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO 
DO WITH THE OFFICIAL FLEX RELEASES.


Folks, I do want to really urge you to use direct email to individuals 
involved in the coding AND the bug reporting system to report on these 
branches.   It leaves the wrong impression with people who are 
completely unfamiliar with svn, branches, trunks, and the impression is 
that we have buggy unfinished code being distributed or that we are 
keystone cops.  There is only one place for official releases.  To the 
best of our knowledge,  that code is stable, usable, wonderful.  We are 
doing development in the open unlike almost anyone else in the business 
but we cannot be punished by having bad publicity for doing something 
good and unusual.


If you are one who cannot take a download from svn, watch it completely 
break, and then be content with waiting FOREVER if necessary for a fix 
after you have given an officially acceptable report,  then a) don't 
take the download and b)  stick with the official release. These are on 
the web site.  THAT is what should be discussed here unless it is your 
intent to harm Flex Radio.  I do not believe that is anyone's intention 
and I urge you to stop.  If you think this is a reaction to a specific 
incident as well as a collection of previous incidents.  You would be 
 RIGHT.


On the blip/flip in the test branch (completely ALPHA unstable test 
code, that would be why it is called.. TEST).


Last week Eric and I were trying something else.  We left it in an 
indeterminate state, one that is quite normal in alpha code, when Eric 
went away for 3 days and I took a badly needed weekend off (I have been 
traveling nonstop for 3 weeks).  We cannot do this and have a dozen 
people howl on the reflector here giving hundreds of potential customers 
the impression that we are the keystone cops.   I uploaded a sdr library 
(DttSP.dll) that had a problem in it.  Dozens of emails later in this 
reflector and we have given the wrong impression to almost all who have 
stopped by.  The code we are talking about is not an official release 
and I am now taking the following discipline for myself.  I will not 
discuss alpha code here in any way ever again.  I will personally simply 
ignore all mention of them here.  I urge this on my fellow coding 
types.  A remedy to our communication is on the way I believe by giving 
a place for people who want to test possibly broken code openly and 
Gerald will be announcing his proposed solution soon enough.  We want 
your input, we cannot live without it,  but it does none of us any good 
to hurt Flex Radio while we are trying to do good.  The good has to 
outweigh the downside or the downside will simply win.


73's
Bob
N4HY

Dudley Hurry wrote:
It has been reported that if you see the panadapter jump for normal to 
flat line about every second or so..   To get out of these situation, 
change the Sample rate to a different sample and then back.   I've 
seen this on the 3K and 5K intermittently.   I can't explain why,  but 
the change in sample rate seems to help.

73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Brian Lloyd wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
Yes, but the changes you are referring to actually occurred in 
3160.  I contend you just didn't svn up until 3166 after I made 
those changes.



There have been two major improvements in CW recently in the test 
branch.  These are being beat up and more done before they are 
released. Thanks for the feedback.  This will all be in the upcoming 
stable release.



Test Branch SVN 3160 works fine. SVN 3166 and 3167 still appear
broken. Any idea what happened between 3160 and 3166 to cause the
problem?


73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL

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[Flexradio] Test SVN 3171 fails RX image level calibration

2009-06-17 Thread Dave
Now that the test branch is back in business I attempted to do an rx level 
and image calibration with clean install. Driver at 96000/1024. PowerSDR 
started and set to 96000/1024 then run calibration. It fails at 12 meters 
with the red X in panadapter display.


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Re: [Flexradio] Life expectancy of the relays in the 5K?

2009-06-17 Thread Gerald Youngblood
The answer is 100,000,000 operations min. (at 36,000 operations/hour).  
That is probably longer than the average ham's life expectancy.  ;)

To my knowledge, we have had no field failures of the TR relay.

Gerald

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-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of John Sweeney
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:30 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Life expectancy of the relays in the 5K?


Flex, Tim, et al,

What should be the life expectancy of the relays on the RFIO board for QSK
CW use?  I think the relays should outlast me, so I've  not been concerned.
However,  a few 5K owners have told me they have stopped using fast break-in
CW in order to save the relays.

I have had  Icoms and Ten Tecs for years with relays, not solid state
switching, with no problem.   I doubt a problem here.

If Flex Radio came up with a new RFIO Board with a near silent relay, or
even solid state, the silent RFIO board would sell like hotcakes and tie
down ropes at a Pancake Fly-in with thunderstorms approaching.:)

John , N3WT




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Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

2009-06-17 Thread Duane - N9DG



--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Scott McClements kc2...@gmail.com wrote:

...
 I think the whole point of skins is that *any* look *is* possible.
...

Yes, absolutely. My apologies for not mentioning, or being clear about that... 
My vision for the ideal UI is but just one of many. And I'd even have uses 
for different ones for different uses..

Duane
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Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-17 Thread Joe Roth-WC4R
Excellent point Bob.
A consideration could be made for a separate tester/coder email reflector.
Joe 

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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bob McGwier
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:44 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

Hello friends of Flex!

blip/flip fixed in SVN 3170 in the test branch. BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO 
DO WITH THE OFFICIAL FLEX RELEASES.

Folks, I do want to really urge you to use direct email to individuals 
involved in the coding AND the bug reporting system to report on these 
branches.   It leaves the wrong impression with people who are 
completely unfamiliar with svn, branches, trunks, and the impression is 
that we have buggy unfinished code being distributed or that we are 
keystone cops.  There is only one place for official releases.  To the 
best of our knowledge,  that code is stable, usable, wonderful.  We are 
doing development in the open unlike almost anyone else in the business 
but we cannot be punished by having bad publicity for doing something 
good and unusual.

If you are one who cannot take a download from svn, watch it completely 
break, and then be content with waiting FOREVER if necessary for a fix 
after you have given an officially acceptable report,  then a) don't 
take the download and b)  stick with the official release. These are on 
the web site.  THAT is what should be discussed here unless it is your 
intent to harm Flex Radio.  I do not believe that is anyone's intention 
and I urge you to stop.  If you think this is a reaction to a specific 
incident as well as a collection of previous incidents.  You would be 
 RIGHT.

On the blip/flip in the test branch (completely ALPHA unstable test 
code, that would be why it is called.. TEST).

Last week Eric and I were trying something else.  We left it in an 
indeterminate state, one that is quite normal in alpha code, when Eric 
went away for 3 days and I took a badly needed weekend off (I have been 
traveling nonstop for 3 weeks).  We cannot do this and have a dozen 
people howl on the reflector here giving hundreds of potential customers 
the impression that we are the keystone cops.   I uploaded a sdr library 
(DttSP.dll) that had a problem in it.  Dozens of emails later in this 
reflector and we have given the wrong impression to almost all who have 
stopped by.  The code we are talking about is not an official release 
and I am now taking the following discipline for myself.  I will not 
discuss alpha code here in any way ever again.  I will personally simply 
ignore all mention of them here.  I urge this on my fellow coding 
types.  A remedy to our communication is on the way I believe by giving 
a place for people who want to test possibly broken code openly and 
Gerald will be announcing his proposed solution soon enough.  We want 
your input, we cannot live without it,  but it does none of us any good 
to hurt Flex Radio while we are trying to do good.  The good has to 
outweigh the downside or the downside will simply win.

73's
Bob
N4HY

Dudley Hurry wrote:
 It has been reported that if you see the panadapter jump for normal to 
 flat line about every second or so..   To get out of these situation, 
 change the Sample rate to a different sample and then back.   I've 
 seen this on the 3K and 5K intermittently.   I can't explain why,  but 
 the change in sample rate seems to help.
 73,
 Dudley

 WA5QPZ



 Brian Lloyd wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  
 Yes, but the changes you are referring to actually occurred in 
 3160.  I contend you just didn't svn up until 3166 after I made 
 those changes.


 There have been two major improvements in CW recently in the test 
 branch.  These are being beat up and more done before they are 
 released. Thanks for the feedback.  This will all be in the upcoming 
 stable release.
 

 Test Branch SVN 3160 works fine. SVN 3166 and 3167 still appear
 broken. Any idea what happened between 3160 and 3166 to cause the
 problem?


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[Flexradio] Re Flex 3K vs Flex 5K on 6 Meters

2009-06-17 Thread Bill Tynan
W9DR's tests are very interesting. I have a 3K and am using an ARR preamp.

 

BTW, Dave, TNX for the screen shot. I was surprised how good I looked. Some
guy in FL a few days later told me I was broad. From what you sent me, I
knew better

 

73,

 

Bill Tynan, W3XO/5

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[Flexradio] 6 meters hot tonight

2009-06-17 Thread Geep Howell

Six appears to be wide open, listening to a 20 over signal from Texas.

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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters hot tonight

2009-06-17 Thread Tim Ellison
Really wide open.  I just wish this thunderstorm would pass.



-Tim

-Original Message-
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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Geep Howell
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Subject: [Flexradio] 6 meters hot tonight

Six appears to be wide open, listening to a 20 over signal from Texas.

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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters hot tonight

2009-06-17 Thread k4elo
Hang on Tim, one just left us, on it's way to you

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:11 -0400, Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com
wrote:
 Really wide open.  I just wish this thunderstorm would pass.
 
 
 
 -Tim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
 [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Geep Howell
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:59 PM
 To: FlexRadio List
 Subject: [Flexradio] 6 meters hot tonight
 
 Six appears to be wide open, listening to a 20 over signal from Texas.
 
 geep
 
 
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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters hot tonight

2009-06-17 Thread Jesse N4BFD
Yup, several CW and SSB QSOs on six being heard here... in between the spurs
on my SDR1000.  Wonder if I can work them on 20 milliwatts?  :)

An another note, ten is wide open, 12 as well, 15 is booming too! Nice to
all the HF bands banging for once!

N4BFD

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:12 PM, k4...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Hang on Tim, one just left us, on it's way to you

 On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:11 -0400, Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com
 wrote:
  Really wide open.  I just wish this thunderstorm would pass.
 
 
 
  -Tim
 
  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Geep Howell
  Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:59 PM
  To: FlexRadio List
  Subject: [Flexradio] 6 meters hot tonight
 
  Six appears to be wide open, listening to a 20 over signal from Texas.
 
  geep
 
 
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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters hot tonight

2009-06-17 Thread Dennis Petrich
I worked about 6 SSB stations and one CW station in the NE states and VE2 
and VE3 with my SDR-1000 at 500mw and 4ele at 75'.  No rx amp either. 
Signals were s9+ at times.  I checked the sensitivity of my SDR-1k on 6m and 
it was around -108dBm.  I could easily ear a 2microV at the input.  Not as 
bad as I thought it would be


Dennis, k0eoo


- Original Message - 
From: Jesse N4BFD n4b...@gmail.com

Cc: FlexRadio List flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters hot tonight


Yup, several CW and SSB QSOs on six being heard here... in between the 
spurs

on my SDR1000.  Wonder if I can work them on 20 milliwatts?  :)

An another note, ten is wide open, 12 as well, 15 is booming too! Nice to
all the HF bands banging for once!

N4BFD

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Hang on Tim, one just left us, on it's way to you

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:11 -0400, Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com
wrote:
 Really wide open.  I just wish this thunderstorm would pass.



 -Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
 [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Geep Howell
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:59 PM
 To: FlexRadio List
 Subject: [Flexradio] 6 meters hot tonight

 Six appears to be wide open, listening to a 20 over signal from Texas.

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Re: [Flexradio] Click tuning with a Locked panadapter operatation

2009-06-17 Thread Chad Gatesman
There's a lot of factors to consider when comparing CPU usage, though.  What
audio bandwidth are you running?  What display FPS?

I'm running 192kHz wide with 50 FPS display on a two processor dual core
Xeon 5160 3.00GHz workstation, and I'm seeing about 12% CPU usage.  That is
approximately 50% of 1 of my 4 cores.

-Chad W1CEG


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 AN i7 would do it Scott.  I'm running a Xeon W3540 which has the same
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 listening on 40m ssb.

 73
 Wayne

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  Let me clarify my point that CPU usage has been steadily on the rise
  in every release of PowerSDR.  I think I saw Eric say he saw a 3% jump
  for skins support.  My 30% was from a really old version to pretty
  betty, which encompasses a lot of changes, not just skins.  -Scott,
  WU2X
 
 
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  wrote:
   Well I guess you can't please all the people all the time. I think the
   whole point of skins is that *any* look *is* possible. I can
   definitely say that CPU usage is on the rise with these changes. On my
   single core machine, CPU usage on Pretty Betty is 30% higher (on
   average) than it was with version 1.10. In fact that makes 192Khz
   nearly unusable now. But - computers become outdated, newer software
   relies on faster machines and more cores. Now I have a good reason to
   stimulate the economy and get a new Intel i7 machine.
  
   -Scott WU2X
  
  
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Duane - N9DGn...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
  
   --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com wrote:
  
    Contrast and edge-definition
   makes the
   controls easier to spot with your eyes. Also anything that
   leaves more
   processing power to the radio functions is strongly to be
   desired. I
   don't want to give up a single CPU cycle to eye-candy if
   I don't have to.
  
   Yes I 100% agree. And the comment about contrast and edge-definition
 squarely hits the nail on the head. That is one of everal things that I
 really dislike about the progress bars, icons etc, of the Windows Vista's UI
 defaults (and many other new software products in general as far as that
 goes). Everytime I work with Vista in the lab at work the screen looks like
 a collection of mushy objects and blurry lines. And the melted/polished
 glass look of the icons, progress bars, etc. I also find to be straining on
 the eyes, and not the least bit of any improvement - in fact I see it as
 being a general step backward in UI design and looks because it seeks to
 make you focus on the item (picture) on the computer screen as a real world
 object. I don't want that. I want to look/see *beyond* the item *on* the
 computer screen and instead optimize the presentation of what the
 water/panadapter is actually representing. In short I don't want to see
 pictures of
physical objects - I want to let the computer and the program's UI
 to show me the abstract, or in other words, the things that I cannot
 normally see, i.e. RF spectrum.
  
   The idealized look of the UI for me is a nearly 100% screen sized
 padapter/waterfall with a an absolute minimum of controls around it. I'm
 also becoming increasingly convinced that virtually all of the adjustments
 that I would want to routinely make can be done from *within* the visual
 space of the panadapter/waterfall itself.
  
   As a side note: I'm finally getting some time to actually run this
 stuff again after a lengthy shack all dismantled downtime. Currently am
 re-familiarizing myself with the PowerSDR version that I had last used -
 1.12 (yes that far back). I soon plan to warp ahead a year or so to the
 current released version + the various SVN's. I expect that experience to be
 very enlightening given my hands on absence from the 1000/5000a  PowerSDR
 for the better part of a year..
  
   Duane
   N9DG
  
  
  
  
  
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[Flexradio] Flex5KA, MixW and HRD - PTT Help

2009-06-17 Thread Tom O'Boyle
I did something stupid and can't figure out the problem.  The problem  
is in PSK31 mode of which I have been successful in running it in the  
past via MixW.


Recently, I moved up to version 18.0 and also tried HRD.  All the CAT  
commands work great.  In PSK31 mode I can see data and the waterfall  
looks great in HRD and MixW.  My problem is related to triggering the  
PTT.  I have it set in the CAT PowerSDR tab for Com6 and using RTS.  I  
can actually test trigger from that screen.


In HRD, the PTT is set to be run by HRD and not an additional com  
port.  Nothing.


Going back to MixW, I have the Com port to Com6 and PTT to RTS.   
Nothing.


Any suggestions?  I've looked at this thing the last two nights and  
seem to be stuck.


Thanks,
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[Flexradio] monitoring not working for me

2009-06-17 Thread Jim
I'm sure it is a setting I'm missing.

 

I have MON selected and when I press ATU I can hear the cw tone in my
headphones plugged into the front of the radio.

 

However, if I press MOX with MON still on and transmit I hear nothing in the
head phones, even though though I can make contacts.

 

Any thoughts as to what I might be doing wrong?

 

WD7W (formerly KD7GND)

Thanks

Jim 

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Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-17 Thread Robert McGwier
I had to be persuaded but I believe it will benefit all of us.  The use of
the test branch by people running contests and hunting vital DX or worse
yet,  doing ARES work just sent shivers down my spine.  It is time for a
fork in the road.  One for those who like to tinker and/or have specific
tasks to accomplish for the overall program and another (this one here) for
those who like to just use and get help in set up without any barriers to
moving back and forth other than the (ENFORCED) etiquette of what may be
discussed and where.

Bob
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 Excellent point Bob.
 A consideration could be made for a separate tester/coder email reflector.
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