Excellent point Bob.
A consideration could be made for a separate tester/coder email reflector.
Joe 

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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bob McGwier
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:44 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

Hello friends of Flex!

blip/flip fixed in SVN 3170 in the test branch. BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO 
DO WITH THE OFFICIAL FLEX RELEASES.

Folks, I do want to really urge you to use direct email to individuals 
involved in the coding AND the bug reporting system to report on these 
branches.   It leaves the wrong impression with people who are 
completely unfamiliar with svn, branches, trunks, and the impression is 
that "we have buggy unfinished code being distributed" or that we are 
keystone cops.  There is only one place for official releases.  To the 
best of our knowledge,  that code is stable, usable, wonderful.  We are 
doing development in the open unlike almost anyone else in the business 
but we cannot be punished by having bad publicity for doing something 
good and unusual.

If you are one who cannot take a download from svn, watch it completely 
break, and then be content with waiting FOREVER if necessary for a fix 
after you have given an officially acceptable report,  then a) don't 
take the download and b)  stick with the official release. These are on 
the web site.  THAT is what should be discussed here unless it is your 
intent to harm Flex Radio.  I do not believe that is anyone's intention 
and I urge you to stop.  If you think this is a reaction to a specific 
incident as well as a collection of previous incidents.  You would be 
.... RIGHT.

On the blip/flip in the test branch (completely ALPHA unstable test 
code, that would be why it is called...... TEST).

Last week Eric and I were trying something else.  We left it in an 
indeterminate state, one that is quite normal in alpha code, when Eric 
went away for 3 days and I took a badly needed weekend off (I have been 
traveling nonstop for 3 weeks).  We cannot do this and have a dozen 
people howl on the reflector here giving hundreds of potential customers 
the impression that we are the keystone cops.   I uploaded a sdr library 
(DttSP.dll) that had a problem in it.  Dozens of emails later in this 
reflector and we have given the wrong impression to almost all who have 
stopped by.  The code we are talking about is not an official release 
and I am now taking the following discipline for myself.  I will not 
discuss alpha code here in any way ever again.  I will personally simply 
ignore all mention of them here.  I urge this on my fellow coding 
types.  A remedy to our communication is on the way I believe by giving 
a place for people who want to test possibly broken code openly and 
Gerald will be announcing his proposed solution soon enough.  We want 
your input, we cannot live without it,  but it does none of us any good 
to hurt Flex Radio while we are trying to do good.  The good has to 
outweigh the downside or the downside will simply win.

73's
Bob
N4HY

Dudley Hurry wrote:
> It has been reported that if you see the panadapter jump for normal to 
> flat line about every second or so..   To get out of these situation, 
> change the Sample rate to a different sample and then back.   I've 
> seen this on the 3K and 5K intermittently.   I can't explain why,  but 
> the change in sample rate seems to help.
> 73,
> Dudley
>
> WA5QPZ
>
>
>
> Brian Lloyd wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bob McGwier <rwmcgw...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>>> Yes, but the changes you are referring to actually occurred in 
>>> 3160.  I contend you just didn't svn up until 3166 after I made 
>>> those changes.
>>>
>>>
>>> There have been two major improvements in CW recently in the test 
>>> branch.  These are being beat up and more done before they are 
>>> released. Thanks for the feedback.  This will all be in the upcoming 
>>> stable release.
>>>     
>>
>> Test Branch SVN 3160 works fine. SVN 3166 and 3167 still appear
>> broken. Any idea what happened between 3160 and 3166 to cause the
>> problem?
>>
>>
>> 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL
>>
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