Re: [Flexradio] I wish PowerSDR tuning/display worked like this...

2009-07-26 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
EXCELLENT video description of the issue, ke5akl!

As a (mostly) digital mode op, I have the exact same issue... On 20, I'd
like to watch the area from about 14069 and up on the panadapter.

For ME, having a more fully featured implementation of the sub-receiver
on VFO-B would be a sufficient solution to this issue.

For example, I've never understood why the sub-receiver can't have a
different filter bandwidth than the main receiver.  This would make a
BIG difference in digital mode operation for DX working split (keeping
the DX in a narrow filter, and the area of the band where the DX is
listening in a WIDE filter so you can see it on your digital mode
program's waterfall).  I prototyped a code-change for this (it was VERY
easy to implement) and submitted a feature request for this over 2 years
ago (#921).  Never heard a word on it...

Peter
K1PGV


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[Flexradio] New Data Transfer Utility problem

2009-07-26 Thread John Vandenberg

I have tried to in the last 3days to install the newest Data transfer util, 
Version 2.0.10 -- Released July 23, 2009
but every time I get the same error (see below)in WinXP32Bit:

Unable to install because a newer version of this product is aleady
installed.

Tried the following:
- Could not find the uninstaller under programs
- could not find uninstaller uner Add/Remove programs
- Ran Ccleaner , claened up ddl's and registry
- tried to uninstall with CCleaner, but it could not find the program
- lastly deleted the program under /Start/Programs/

However I still cannot install Version 2.0.10

Note: I used an earlier version successful to transfer from PSD1.18.0 to
PDSR1.18.1

Anyone else having so much problem?


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[Flexradio] Shuttle Pro 2

2009-07-26 Thread Kevin Hobbs
Hi;

 

I have an essentially brand new Shuttle Pro 2 that I got with my Flex-5000A
and never used. If anyone wants it, you can make me offer off list. (hope
this post is acceptable)

 

TNX Kevin

 

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Re: [Flexradio] 40 Meter net

2009-07-26 Thread Jim KJ7S
 I have a net at 8pm mdt on our local club machines, but it'd be nice to 
get on 40 for grins to compare notes and etc. it's actually easier for me than 
the net on 20 on sundays at this point.   
73's
KJ7S
Jim
The Sum of Knowledge and Experience, is Wisdom
  Censor Yourself, Not Others

Some have been interested in trying to get a 40 Meter net going, and 
maybe evenings.   How about Tuesday nights,  at 7 PM Central (8 PM 
Eastern) ,  and try to find a good frequency between 7180 to 7200,  try 
that first.  I know of a net on 7178 so we can stay above that..   

Anybody else interested? 

-- 

73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ

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Re: [Flexradio] 40 Meter net

2009-07-26 Thread David W LeJeune, Sr
40 meters works for me - anytime after 1800 CDT
Dave WN5V


Some have been interested in trying to get a 40 Meter net going, and 
maybe evenings.   How about Tuesday nights,  at 7 PM Central (8 PM 
Eastern) ,  and try to find a good frequency between 7180 to 7200,  try 
that first.  I know of a net on 7178 so we can stay above that..   

Anybody else interested? 

-- 

73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ

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[Flexradio] Griffin power mate

2009-07-26 Thread yash
A friend gave me a Griffin yesterday. I was thinking of adding it to my 5000a 
setup. Iam happy with the mouse and the way it works for me,Is the griffin 
worth the effort? Was just wondering what anyone else thought of the power mate 
and it use with power sdr.
thanks
dale wt4t
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Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate

2009-07-26 Thread Jim Kunowsky
I used mine for a short period of time on my 3K.  I noticed that if you spun 
the knob too fast, the software would freeze until it caught up.  Other than 
that, it worked ok.  I too prefer the mouse.

73,
Jim / K4ECP


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A friend gave me a Griffin yesterday. I was thinking of adding it to my 
5000a setup. Iam happy with the mouse and the way it works for me,Is the 
griffin worth the effort? Was just wondering what anyone else thought of 
the power mate and it use with power sdr.
 thanks
 dale wt4t
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Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate

2009-07-26 Thread Ray Andrews, K9DUR
Dale,

I bought a Griffin PowerMate with my SDR-1000 in January 2006.  I quickly
disconnected it  put it in a drawer.  Actually, I have it hooked up now
with its default settings.  I feed the FLEX-5000A audio output back into the
PC soundcard.  The PowerMate makes a really good volume control -- lousy as
a VFO, but a good volume control.  Just my opinion.

73, Ray, K9DUR
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Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate

2009-07-26 Thread John Hansen
I agree with Ray on this.  I bought the Griffin before I bought my
first Flex (largely in anticipation of getting a radio to use with
it).  When I finally did get a Flex, I found my whole way of looking
at radio operating changed.  With a conventional radio you tune with a
knob in your hand and detect signals solely by ear.  With a flex, you
identify signals both with your ear and (even more so) with your eyes.
 So the days of continuously tuning up the band to get a feel how many
stations are on are largely gone.  You can see that without all the
tuning.  I tend to click on interesting portions of the spectrum with
my mouse and then then use the wheel on the mouse to tune around.  If
you use the Griffen, that requires that you move your hand back and
forth between the mouse to the Griffen.  It seems more awkward.

Having said that, it does make a wonderful volume control.  In
addition, the pulsing blue is really nice.  So if you are getting one
for free or cheap, don't just shelve it, try it in both applications
and see what you think.

John W2FS

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 Dale,

 I bought a Griffin PowerMate with my SDR-1000 in January 2006.  I quickly
 disconnected it  put it in a drawer.  Actually, I have it hooked up now
 with its default settings.  I feed the FLEX-5000A audio output back into the
 PC soundcard.  The PowerMate makes a really good volume control -- lousy as
 a VFO, but a good volume control.  Just my opinion.

 73, Ray, K9DUR
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Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate

2009-07-26 Thread Tim Ellison
I fall into the same class as most.  I purchased the PowerMate at the same time 
I bought my SDR-1000.  I set it up, used it for a few days and then stopped 
using it once I realized that the Flex is really a visually interactive radio 
and the mouse, with its planer multiple degrees of freedom, is much better 
suited than a left/right tuning knob.  The tuning knob did little to enhance 
the SDR experience, matter of fact, IMHO, it distracted from the whole 
experience by having to grab another pointing device to use the radio.

I have one positive thing to say.  It makes a nice neon blue LED night light as 
well as a volume control :-) 


-Tim

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A friend gave me a Griffin yesterday. I was thinking of adding it to my 5000a 
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worth the effort? Was just wondering what anyone else thought of the power mate 
and it use with power sdr.
thanks
dale wt4t
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Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate

2009-07-26 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 2:57 PM, John Hansenj...@coastalchip.com wrote:
 I agree with Ray on this.  I bought the Griffin before I bought my
 first Flex (largely in anticipation of getting a radio to use with
 it).  When I finally did get a Flex, I found my whole way of looking
 at radio operating changed.  With a conventional radio you tune with a
 knob in your hand and detect signals solely by ear.  With a flex, you
 identify signals both with your ear and (even more so) with your eyes.

Only one comment on this. Yes you identify the signals by eye but the
final tuning is done by ear. Also, when trying to tune spot-on, you
will find that from an ergonomics point-of-view, it is easier to
rotate your hand for fine control than any other motion. So a knob is
well suited for final tuning. Also, from a strictly ergonomic
point-of-view, having one control is better than having two.

  So the days of continuously tuning up the band to get a feel how many
 stations are on are largely gone.

Yes, but you assume that because that has changed, the advantage of
the knob has changed as well. I find the knob offers a wonderful
hand-eye coordination. There is a natural feel for how much you turn
the knob and how much the frequency changes. No other control I have
tried seems to fit that quite as well.

 I tend to click on interesting portions of the spectrum with
 my mouse and then then use the wheel on the mouse to tune around.

That is certainly what I do too.

 If
 you use the Griffen, that requires that you move your hand back and
 forth between the mouse to the Griffen.  It seems more awkward.

It is more awkward and I agree with you there as well. But if the knob
made it easy to move rapidly from one part of the spectrum to another
AND then do the fine tuning when there, that eliminates the need to
switch your hand on input devices for tuning.

I think everyone who has the Griffin PowerMate has discovered the same
thing: the way that it is implemented and interfaced to PowerSDR, it
does not work well. I don't use mine for tuning anymore either.

OTOH, if it was interfaced directly to PowerSDR such that focus never
changed, and if it supported acceleration, i.e. turning it rapidly
increased the step size for rapid motion, it would be an outstanding
input device for tuning PowerSDR.

So, IMHO, the fault is not with the Griffin PowerMate but rather in
the way that we are forced to use it currently.

 Having said that, it does make a wonderful volume control.  In
 addition, the pulsing blue is really nice.  So if you are getting one
 for free or cheap, don't just shelve it, try it in both applications
 and see what you think.

I think you are right.

73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL

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[Flexradio] mouse, click tuning, navigator etc.

2009-07-26 Thread FireBrick

Click tuning is fine.
Using the mouse to control vfo is fine

As long as your only doing one thing at a time.

In heavy contesting or competitive dxing, where speed, accurate signal 
placement, and transmitting the proper message all at the same time.

You need two hands and one set of eyes.

In this case, a knob, or dedicated vfo control device such as the 
'Navigator' or Sami's Hotwheels is essential.


Please note I said 'dedicated' my Griffin didn't give me the 
speed/accuracy/versatility I needed.





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Re: [Flexradio] mouse, click tuning, navigator etc.

2009-07-26 Thread FireBrick

Line six correction:
You need two hands, one set of eyes, and a ear for each vfo.

On 7/26/2009 6:27:56 PM, FireBrick (w...@billnjudy.com) wrote:

Click tuning is fine.
Using the mouse to control vfo is fine

As long as your only doing one thing at a time.

In heavy contesting or competitive dxing, where speed, accurate signal
placement, and transmitting the proper message all at the same time.
You need two hands and one set of eyes.

In this case, a knob, or dedicated vfo control device such as the
'Navigator' or
Sami's Hotwheels is essential.

Please note I said 'dedicated' my Griffin didn't
give me the
speed/accuracy/versatility I needed.




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Re: [Flexradio] mouse, click tuning, navigator etc.

2009-07-26 Thread mike

Addendum to the W9OL correction of Line 6:

You need two hands, one set of eyes, and a ear for each vfo and a can to 
pee in.




FireBrick wrote:

Line six correction:
You need two hands, one set of eyes, and a ear for each vfo.

On 7/26/2009 6:27:56 PM, FireBrick (w...@billnjudy.com) wrote:

Click tuning is fine.
Using the mouse to control vfo is fine

As long as your only doing one thing at a time.

In heavy contesting or competitive dxing, where speed, accurate signal
placement, and transmitting the proper message all at the same time.
You need two hands and one set of eyes.

In this case, a knob, or dedicated vfo control device such as the
'Navigator' or
Sami's Hotwheels is essential.

Please note I said 'dedicated' my Griffin didn't
give me the
speed/accuracy/versatility I needed.




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Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate

2009-07-26 Thread k4elo
I think the Griffin is very handy.  Use it for tuning sometimes, but it
is nice for adjusting the AGC.
Easy to program.

73
Wayne
K4ELO

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Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate

2009-07-26 Thread Ray Andrews, K9DUR
Brian,

Yes, the fine tuning is done by ear.  However, I use the mouse wheel for
that.  When operating SSB, I can click on a signal, quickly right-click to
turn off the crosshairs, and then use the mouse wheel for fine adjustment of
the frequency.  In CW or digital modes, I expand the Panadapter to 4x
magnification (or greater).  At that magnification, there is never any need
for fine-tuning.

I find that the mouse wheel gives the same hand-eye coordination feel as the
knob without having to move from the mouse to the PowerMate  back.

As for using the knob to move quickly from one part of the band to another
as well as for fine tuning, you can always program the push-turn functions
of the PowerMate to make large frequency changes.  If you REALLY want to use
the PowerMate for tuning that is.

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