Re: [Flexradio] audiodg.exe
David McClain d...@refined-audiometrics.com wrote: The Dell laptop has only one USB hub inside, and *everything* (disk, video, USB, mouse, keyboard, scratchpad, etc.) competes for service. (That's why I referred to it as a stupid little system). I guess for 90+% of folks, the computer is good enough... :-( I have an old IBM T30 thinkpad that struggles (but succeeds -- just -- no other programs running) to run my flex 1500 so I'm looking for something better for portable use. Any suggestions at what to look for in a new laptop? I don't want to end up with a stupid little system! -- Brian Duffell G3VGZ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] audiodg.exe
And for Neal's attention, if I were to look at Dell laptops machines, is there any that stands out (or are they all toast)? I run WinXP on Latitude D630 and it is just about man enoug to run my Flex3000 and N1MM, but fire anything else up and audio breaks up with or without VAC. Do we have a list/grid of off-the-shelf model laptops on the wiki or elsewhere with ok/not okay for Flex 15000/3000/500 etc? That would be great if we did. Mike G7TWC On 22 June 2011 11:32, Brian G3VGZ briduff...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: David McClain d...@refined-audiometrics.com wrote: The Dell laptop has only one USB hub inside, and *everything* (disk, video, USB, mouse, keyboard, scratchpad, etc.) competes for service. (That's why I referred to it as a stupid little system). I guess for 90+% of folks, the computer is good enough... :-( I have an old IBM T30 thinkpad that struggles (but succeeds -- just -- no other programs running) to run my flex 1500 so I'm looking for something better for portable use. Any suggestions at what to look for in a new laptop? I don't want to end up with a stupid little system! -- Brian Duffell G3VGZ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Test message
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[Flexradio] newbie question
Still setting up a 1500 here and the issue of the moment is noise threshold. I am in the country and the radio I removed to replace with the 1500 had a noise level of S1 or so. With the 1500, I am up around S5 as baseline noise level. Nothing else has changed. The receiver is hotter, but not tremendously so, and I do not have the rig strapped to the computer yet and I'm hoping that is some of the issue. mike, k5wmg ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] newbie question
Mike, Are you sure that your other radio is in calibration? The Flexes are very accurate in respect to their signal level indication, so if you are getting S5 (with the antenna connected, I hope), it means that you are getting -97 dBm noise in the selected bandwidth. If you connect either receiver input to a 50 Ohm load you will see the receiver background noise and if you have access to a calibrated signal generator you can measure the minimum discernible signal on either receiver. Your statement that the 1500 is hotter makes me think that the other receiver is deaf, at least in S units reading, since the opposite is usually the case because the Flexes trend is to give lower readings. They have a truly calibrated S meter and most receivers don't, and usually are really optimistic. Other cause could be the 1500 S meter became uncalibrated, but it is unlikely. If you can do the signal generator test you can verify this and if it is out of cal, the calibration procedure takes less than a minute. 73 de Ignacio, EB4APL (Who uses his Flex as a selective level meter) On 22/06/2011 15:52, Michael Goins wrote: Still setting up a 1500 here and the issue of the moment is noise threshold. I am in the country and the radio I removed to replace with the 1500 had a noise level of S1 or so. With the 1500, I am up around S5 as baseline noise level. Nothing else has changed. The receiver is hotter, but not tremendously so, and I do not have the rig strapped to the computer yet and I'm hoping that is some of the issue. mike, k5wmg ___ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] newbie question
Well, give it a chance, Mike. It may just be a question of different S-meter calibration. The real determining factor is whether or not it can hear weak signals in the noise as well as your previous receiver. You can test this by setting up some sort of A/B switching. The 1500 has its faults, but in my experience the receiver is not one of them. It's a pretty good performer. 73, Tony KT0NY On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Michael Goins wmgo...@gmail.com wrote: Still setting up a 1500 here and the issue of the moment is noise thresholdWith the 1500, I am up around S5 as baseline noise level ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] newbie question
The S-meter on all Flex radios is calibrated like a RF spectrum analyzer to S9 = -73 dBm = 50 uV, so what you are seeing ins actual power in the RX pass band. Since you are seeing integrated power, the size of the RX filter is a determining factor. If you are using a 3K filter, change it to 500 Hz and notice the reduction in signal power (strength). Also other radio's S-meter is effected by the RF gain and AGC. Not so with the FlexRadio SDRs. These factors can account for the difference. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Michael Goins wmgo...@gmail.com wrote: Still setting up a 1500 here and the issue of the moment is noise threshold. I am in the country and the radio I removed to replace with the 1500 had a noise level of S1 or so. With the 1500, I am up around S5 as baseline noise level. Nothing else has changed. The receiver is hotter, but not tremendously so, and I do not have the rig strapped to the computer yet and I'm hoping that is some of the issue. mike, k5wmg ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- -Tim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] newbie question
Thanks to all for the comments. Will pursue this further as I continue to learn more about the radio. It's a long, long way from the Hallicrafter SX-101 that was the first receiver here back in '76, so I'm ramping up on it. mike k5wmg On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Tim Ellison t.m.ellison...@gmail.comwrote: The S-meter on all Flex radios is calibrated like a RF spectrum analyzer to S9 = -73 dBm = 50 uV, so what you are seeing ins actual power in the RX pass band. Since you are seeing integrated power, the size of the RX filter is a determining factor. If you are using a 3K filter, change it to 500 Hz and notice the reduction in signal power (strength). Also other radio's S-meter is effected by the RF gain and AGC. Not so with the FlexRadio SDRs. These factors can account for the difference. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Michael Goins wmgo...@gmail.com wrote: Still setting up a 1500 here and the issue of the moment is noise threshold. I am in the country and the radio I removed to replace with the 1500 had a noise level of S1 or so. With the 1500, I am up around S5 as baseline noise level. Nothing else has changed. The receiver is hotter, but not tremendously so, and I do not have the rig strapped to the computer yet and I'm hoping that is some of the issue. mike, k5wmg ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- -Tim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
Is there a way to get band data from the 5000 to change bands on the KPA 500 automatically? Zack N8FNR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
Zack, pg. 18 of the KPA500 manual shows the binary codes for the 4-bit number that conveys band info. You just need to get the data out the back of the 5000, convert it as necessary, and feed it to the amp. Tony KT0NY On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:12 AM, vtnn...@comcast.net wrote: Is there a way to get band data from the 5000 to change bands on the KPA 500 automatically? Zack N8FNR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- We don't want every single college grad with mathematical aptitude to become a derivatives trader. -- Barack Obama ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
Zack I don't believe there is a way to drive the BCD interface of the KPA500 directly from the 5000. I would bet that Utilizing PowerSDR and DDUtil software and the KPA500 XCVR serial port you can accomplish auto band changing. Dave -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of vtnn...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:12 AM To: Flex Radio Subject: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp? Is there a way to get band data from the 5000 to change bands on the KPA 500 automatically? Zack N8FNR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] audiodg.exe
Hi David and all, Just found a nasty little feature in Win/Vista and Win/7, named audiodg.exe. This is a required audio driver that attempts to isolate processes audio routing graphs for security purposes. Problem is, the cure is almost as bad as the disease they are trying to prevent. Nasty indeed. Here is a link to what I had to say about it when trying Vista and Win 7 for the first time: http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/run/snd-compat/d44-cpuload.htm That was nearly two years ago. audiodg.exe is probably not as cpu-hungry today if Windows Update has been used as it should. Nevertheless it is a problem by adding extra delay and probably other problems. We can avoid audiodg.exe by use of ASIO or WDM-KS. Right now I am doing tests with Linrad using Portaudio for both input and output. WDM-KS works fine for some hardware combinations under Vista. It seems to me that Portaudio is not yet quite stable (or the WDM-KS drivers are sometimes defective.) When running on slow computers I see odd problems sometimes. I think WDM-KS should be preferred over ASIO because one can open several WDM-KS drivers simultaneously while one can only open a single ASIO device. One can open ASIO in RDWR mode, but I find it inconvenient to have to use 96kHz/24 bit in four channels for the loudspeaker output. It is possible to use ASIO for 96kHz/24bit rx input and Tx output in RDWR mode, but microphone input and loudspeaker output can conveniently go through a low speed 16 bit audio channel which would have to be WDM-KS since a second ASIO is not allowed. (the other alternatives would involve audiodg.exe problems...) 73 Leif / SM5BSZ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Amp switching Buffer for 5K
Flex 5K manual recommends using an outboard circuit to key an amp since the keying lines use a Darlington transistor switch rated at 400 ma @50 volts. If you don't want to built your own K4AVU makes them at a fair price. ( half the price of the Ameritron 704) Be sure to tell him it's for a 5K since his standard unit has to be modified since the Darlington switch has different characteristics from a relay like in the 3K which has a 2 amp at 220VDC. rating. K3PD ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
I was disappointed that the Flex series of radios did not follow the SDR-1000 in having a direct output for band data signals. My SDR-1000 is directly connected to a Quadra and can bandswitch it independently of DDutil, etc. My 5000a requires a parallel port and DDutil to do the same. It appears that Flexradio had intended to make an interface unit for the 5000a/3000 that would have plugged in to the flexport (name?) and allowed them to do this, but it must have fallen through the cracks. Jerry W4UK At 01:33 PM 6/22/2011, Dave Beumer WÃDHB wrote: Zack I don't believe there is a way to drive the BCD interface of the KPA500 directly from the 5000. I would bet that Utilizing PowerSDR and DDUtil software and the KPA500 XCVR serial port you can accomplish auto band changing. Dave -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of vtnn...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:12 AM To: Flex Radio Subject: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp? Is there a way to get band data from the 5000 to change bands on the KPA 500 automatically? Zack N8FNR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] newbie question
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Michael Goins wmgo...@gmail.com wrote: Still setting up a 1500 here and the issue of the moment is noise threshold. I am in the country and the radio I removed to replace with the 1500 had a noise level of S1 or so. With the 1500, I am up around S5 as baseline noise level. Nothing else has changed. The receiver is hotter, but not tremendously so, and I do not have the rig strapped to the computer yet and I'm hoping that is some of the issue. The first thing you need to know is that, unlike the average ham rig, the Flex S-meter is calibrated. S-9 is 50uV into 50ohms and 1 S-unit is exactly 6dB. It is normal for the flex radios to have a non-zero S-meter reading with the preamp off. Here is an approximate table: SuV 950 825 712 6 6 5 3 4 1.5 3 0.75 2 0.37 1 0.2 You will probably need the preamp to reach below S-3, even with a dummy load. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
- Original Message - From: Dave Beumer WØDHB d...@w0dhb.net To: vtnn...@comcast.net, Flex Radio flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:33:36 PM Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp? Zack I wrote to the DDUTIL folks asking if they would add the KPA500 to the list of supported amps. Zack N8FNR __ I don't believe there is a way to drive the BCD interface of the KPA500 directly from the 5000. I would bet that Utilizing PowerSDR and DDUtil software and the KPA500 XCVR serial port you can accomplish auto band changing. Dave -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of vtnn...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:12 AM To: Flex Radio Subject: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp? Is there a way to get band data from the 5000 to change bands on the KPA 500 automatically? Zack N8FNR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Jerry Flanders jefland...@comcast.netwrote: I was disappointed that the Flex series of radios did not follow the SDR-1000 in having a direct output for band data signals. My SDR-1000 is directly connected to a Quadra and can bandswitch it independently of DDutil, etc. My 5000a requires a parallel port and DDutil to do the same. It appears that Flexradio had intended to make an interface unit for the 5000a/3000 that would have plugged in to the flexport (name?) and allowed them to do this, but it must have fallen through the cracks. Since band data is produced by PowerSDR and not by the radio hardware it makes sense to have the band data come from the computer. There is no standard for outputing band data to devices. The closest thing I have found is the Kenwood CAT command set used by Kenwood, Flex, Elecraft, and others. Some older radios use analog voltages (older ICOM and Yaesu radios) and some also use BCD (binary parallel). Still, serial is the most flexible and the most compatible. I would be surprised if the KPA500 does not accept the Kenwood CAT commands to set band as that is what the K2 and K3 normally generate through their serial ports. It appears that you can connect to RS-232 connector #8 on the back of the KPA500 for this. (Probably, I am guessing but I have been able to control other Elecraft devices from the computer this way and they do suggest that it can be controlled from a Kenwood radio via this connector.) If that is the case then you just need a serial connection from the computer running PowerSDR and the KPA500. If you wish to use digital mode programs like fldigi or Ham Radio Deluxe you will need to use DDutil to repeat the CAT data to the KPA500. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Looks like someone really messed up the Flexwiki
All of the setup pages are gone. http://flexradiowiki.com/ There are some very clever comments on the pages like Hey, good to find someone who areges with me. GMTA. and Youve got it in one. Couldnt have put it beettr. there though. Guess that they were not smart enough to use spellcheck though. Perhaps one of the Flex haters that linger in the eham SDR forum got on here and made a mess. Zack N8FNR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Looks like someone really messed up the Flexwiki
A name comes to mind On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:25 PM, vtnn...@comcast.net wrote: All of the setup pages are gone. http://flexradiowiki.com/ There are some very clever comments on the pages like Hey, good to find someone who areges with me. GMTA. and You’ve got it in one. Couldn’t have put it beettr. there though. Guess that they were not smart enough to use spellcheck though. Perhaps one of the Flex haters that linger in the eham SDR forum got on here and made a mess. Zack N8FNR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
The KPA500 measures its RF input and switches within milliseconds to to the correct band, so if the Flex model you wish to use with it doesn't output band data you'll only lose part of the first dit (if sending CW) or the first syllable (if SSB) or the first... and only when you change bands. Of course, the radio DOES need to output a Tx enable signal (pull to ground) to switch from Tx to Rx :-) 73, Lyle KK7P ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Looks like someone really messed up the Flexwiki
I put the homepage back, but someone else will have to find and fix the other edits that were done by the bots... (I traced a few of the IP's back to known spambots - mostly eastern Europe) -- Richard A Clafton | the brITish guy | W5\G7EIX RIROC - Hosting - Development - Technology http://www.riroc.com | rclaf...@riroc.com PugHearts of Houston Pug Rescue | www.PugHearts.com -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of William H. Fite Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:27 PM To: vtnn...@comcast.net Cc: Flex Radio Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Looks like someone really messed up the Flexwiki A name comes to mind On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:25 PM, vtnn...@comcast.net wrote: All of the setup pages are gone. http://flexradiowiki.com/ There are some very clever comments on the pages like Hey, good to find someone who areges with me. GMTA. and You've got it in one. Couldn't have put it beettr. there though. Guess that they were not smart enough to use spellcheck though. Perhaps one of the Flex haters that linger in the eham SDR forum got on here and made a mess. Zack N8FNR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Looks like someone really messed up the Flexwiki
Ok, I decided to fix a few more while I eat my lunch I used two different ip's to connect - just in case anyone looking at the logs wonders where the edits came from. I have also registered on the wiki, so I won't be anon next time. Don't mind helping when I am free from work load. :-) Regards -- Richard A Clafton | the brITish guy | W5\G7EIX RIROC - Hosting - Development - Technology http://www.riroc.com | rclaf...@riroc.com PugHearts of Houston Pug Rescue | www.PugHearts.com -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Richard Clafton Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:11 PM To: 'William H. Fite'; vtnn...@comcast.net Cc: 'Flex Radio' Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Looks like someone really messed up the Flexwiki I put the homepage back, but someone else will have to find and fix the other edits that were done by the bots... (I traced a few of the IP's back to known spambots - mostly eastern Europe) -- Richard A Clafton | the brITish guy | W5\G7EIX RIROC - Hosting - Development - Technology http://www.riroc.com | rclaf...@riroc.com PugHearts of Houston Pug Rescue | www.PugHearts.com -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of William H. Fite Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:27 PM To: vtnn...@comcast.net Cc: Flex Radio Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Looks like someone really messed up the Flexwiki A name comes to mind On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:25 PM, vtnn...@comcast.net wrote: All of the setup pages are gone. http://flexradiowiki.com/ There are some very clever comments on the pages like Hey, good to find someone who areges with me. GMTA. and You've got it in one. Couldn't have put it beettr. there though. Guess that they were not smart enough to use spellcheck though. Perhaps one of the Flex haters that linger in the eham SDR forum got on here and made a mess. Zack N8FNR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
Zack, Digging farther, I now think I spoke too soon. I believed that the band-data output from the 5000 came in a well-documented and easy-to-access form. Maybe it does, but if so I can't find the info. Perhaps some public-spirited guy with the right gear and a weekend to spare will figure out the serial data stream and design a decoder for it, and publish his results for all to use. Failing a hardware solution, it looks like a job for DDUtil. I'm a happy DDUtil user and I'm sure it will work for this purpose, but this seems to me to be an example of doing something with software that would be simpler and more robust in hardware. Tony KT0NY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Looks like someone really messed up the Flexwiki
I have been battling this for the past two weeks. I will look at restoring it when I get back from vacation.. Neal On Wednesday, June 22, 2011, vtnn...@comcast.net wrote: All of the setup pages are gone. http://flexradiowiki.com/ There are some very clever comments on the pages like Hey, good to find someone who areges with me. GMTA. and You’ve got it in one. Couldn’t have put it beettr. there though. Guess that they were not smart enough to use spellcheck though. Perhaps one of the Flex haters that linger in the eham SDR forum got on here and made a mess. Zack N8FNR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com Work:(540) 645 5394 Mobile:(540) 645 8171 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com wrote: Zack, Digging farther, I now think I spoke too soon. I believed that the band-data output from the 5000 came in a well-documented and easy-to-access form. Maybe it does, but if so I can't find the info. You can find the Flex-specific in the Flex knowledge base at: http://kc.flexradio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50041.aspx?Keywords=CAT+commands Perhaps some public-spirited guy with the right gear and a weekend to spare will figure out the serial data stream and design a decoder for it, and publish his results for all to use. Failing a hardware solution, it looks like a job for DDUtil. As I indicated above, it is already published. For the most part it is identical to the Kenwood TS-2000 CAT command set and PowerSDR identifies as a Kenwood TS-2000 by default. Most software that knows how to communicate with a Kenwood TS-2000 with work with PowerSDR with little or no modification. I'm a happy DDUtil user and I'm sure it will work for this purpose, but this seems to me to be an example of doing something with software that would be simpler and more robust in hardware. The important thing that DDutil does is to act as a repeater for various commands so that you can have many devices plugged in at the same time. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com wrote: The KPA500 measures its RF input and switches within milliseconds to to the correct band, so if the Flex model you wish to use with it doesn't output band data you'll only lose part of the first dit (if sending CW) or the first syllable (if SSB) or the first... and only when you change bands. Of course, the radio DOES need to output a Tx enable signal (pull to ground) to switch from Tx to Rx :-) Lyle: can you confirm that the KPA500 will accept band data and the PTT command on either its PC port (DB-9) or the Xcvr port (DB-9)? That will really answer the question. Thanks! -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
Lyle: can you confirm that the KPA500 will accept band data and the PTT command on either its PC port (DB-9) or the Xcvr port (DB-9)? That will really answer the question. Thanks! If the KPA500 RADIO menu is set to SERIAL, then it will accept frequency information in Kenwood format over the RS232 X (radio) connector. PTT is a physical signal that must be passed to the RCA connector or the DE-15 accessory connector. The amplifier does not parse any command for PTT, nor does it use DTR/RTS/etc for PTT information. This is so you can daisy-chain your Steppir relay, or ATU tune control in series to prevent the KPA500 from going active if there is a reason to prevent it from doing so. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
Than ks to all who replied. I am saving up to get a KPA500 in the near future. Not getting a K3 though! Love my 5000. Zack ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] [Flexradio} Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
As I’m always interested in amplifiers I decided to take a quick look at the manual for the KPA500 amp. I have not done an in depth review of the manual but this is what I have found so far. 1. Page 8 of Owners Manual “ The KPA500 automatically measures the frequency of the RF drive and selects the proper band. Apparently like most modern devices the amplifier will automatically band switch with just the frequency input. This bypasses the need for any special hardware or software. 2. Page 16 of Owners Manual BCD can be set to the KPA500 using the AUX Connector Interface. (Page 16 of of owners manual) This is a DB-15 pin connector. Pin 5 is ground Pin 13 is Bit 0 Pin 3 is Bit 1 Pin 9 is Bit 2 Pin 14 is Bit 3 In addition Pin 10 can be used to key the amplifier and Pin 11 can be used to inhibit the amplifier operation (good for SteppIR’s) 3. There are 2- RS232 connections. On is for connection to a PC used for for firmware updates. The other is connects the amplifier to Kenwood transceivers. Seems to me that using one of the above methods you should be able to connect this amplifier to just about any computer or radio. There is certainly much more information in the manual but it appears to me that this amplifier can be driven from several different sources. ** Has a built in power supply, 100-120V, 200-250V. ** Frequency coverage 160-6M ** Kit price $2000.00 ($1999.95), factory assembled $2400 ($2399.95) for 500 Watts ?? Don kd6hq ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] [Flexradio} Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
A very nice little amp but Elecraft is going to have to get over being impressed by Elecraft and reduce the price before it is going to take the market by storm. Except for the K3 fanbois, of course. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Don kd...@sonic.net wrote: As I’m always interested in amplifiers I decided to take a quick look at the manual for the KPA500 amp. I have not done an in depth review of the manual but this is what I have found so far. 1. Page 8 of Owners Manual “ The KPA500 automatically measures the frequency of the RF drive and selects the proper band. Apparently like most modern devices the amplifier will automatically band switch with just the frequency input. This bypasses the need for any special hardware or software. 2. Page 16 of Owners Manual BCD can be set to the KPA500 using the AUX Connector Interface. (Page 16 of of owners manual) This is a DB-15 pin connector. Pin 5 is ground Pin 13 is Bit 0 Pin 3 is Bit 1 Pin 9 is Bit 2 Pin 14 is Bit 3 In addition Pin 10 can be used to key the amplifier and Pin 11 can be used to inhibit the amplifier operation (good for SteppIR’s) 3. There are 2- RS232 connections. On is for connection to a PC used for for firmware updates. The other is connects the amplifier to Kenwood transceivers. Seems to me that using one of the above methods you should be able to connect this amplifier to just about any computer or radio. There is certainly much more information in the manual but it appears to me that this amplifier can be driven from several different sources. ** Has a built in power supply, 100-120V, 200-250V. ** Frequency coverage 160-6M ** Kit price $2000.00 ($1999.95), factory assembled $2400 ($2399.95) for 500 Watts ?? Don kd6hq ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Default TX audio settings..?
Can someone point out a source for the default settings under Mode Specific Controls - Phone for v1.18.5 PSDR-Flex5000a-WinXP...? I'd like the levels and which, if any, buttons are active using the default settings. A few misplaced mouse clicks have made changes I don't know about. 73...Jordan VE6ZT ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com wrote: Lyle: can you confirm that the KPA500 will accept band data and the PTT command on either its PC port (DB-9) or the Xcvr port (DB-9)? That will really answer the question. Thanks! If the KPA500 RADIO menu is set to SERIAL, then it will accept frequency information in Kenwood format over the RS232 X (radio) connector. PTT is a physical signal that must be passed to the RCA connector or the DE-15 accessory connector. The amplifier does not parse any command for PTT, nor does it use DTR/RTS/etc for PTT information. This is so you can daisy-chain your Steppir relay, or ATU tune control in series to prevent the KPA500 from going active if there is a reason to prevent it from doing so. Thank you Lyle. That all makes perfect sense. The KPA500 sounds like a very nice product. Definitely on the short list of new ham toys. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] [Flexradio} Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
A very nice little amp but Elecraft is going to have to get over being impressed by Elecraft and reduce the price before it is going to take the market by storm. Except for the K3 fanbois, of course. It strikes me as odd that it wants 30W-40W of drive power for 500W out. And *never* more than 40W during operation. Maybe it's just me, but that seems like an awfully unusual value to choose. 1W, 5W, 10W, or 100W... sure. But 30W?? Clearly there's something I don't know about the K3 going on here. Peter K1PGV ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] flex control for sale
Have a brand new flex control for sale ,asking 110.00 shipped. Includes all ,as shipped by flex-radio. Will take pay pal, as gift ,or you pay the 3% service charge. thanks dale wt4t ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] [Flexradio} Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Peter G. Viscarola pete...@osr.com wrote: A very nice little amp but Elecraft is going to have to get over being impressed by Elecraft and reduce the price before it is going to take the market by storm. Except for the K3 fanbois, of course. It strikes me as odd that it wants 30W-40W of drive power for 500W out. And *never* more than 40W during operation. Maybe it's just me, but that seems like an awfully unusual value to choose. 1W, 5W, 10W, or 100W... sure. But 30W?? Clearly there's something I don't know about the K3 going on here. Not sure that is so. If you turn your exciter down to that level it is going to be cleaner than if running near its 1dB compression point. Also the drive requirement is going to be determined also by device gain. I regularly use an IC-2KL with the 3000 and have to turn the 3000 down to about 25W as the amp has 13dB of gain and a max output of 500W. So far I haven't had any problems. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Band data from a Flex-5000 to the Elecraft KPA500 amp?
Why not use the SGC 500 if you only need 500 watts? Mike va3mw On Jun 22, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Jerry Flanders jefland...@comcast.netwrote: I was disappointed that the Flex series of radios did not follow the SDR-1000 in having a direct output for band data signals. My SDR-1000 is directly connected to a Quadra and can bandswitch it independently of DDutil, etc. My 5000a requires a parallel port and DDutil to do the same. It appears that Flexradio had intended to make an interface unit for the 5000a/3000 that would have plugged in to the flexport (name?) and allowed them to do this, but it must have fallen through the cracks. Since band data is produced by PowerSDR and not by the radio hardware it makes sense to have the band data come from the computer. There is no standard for outputing band data to devices. The closest thing I have found is the Kenwood CAT command set used by Kenwood, Flex, Elecraft, and others. Some older radios use analog voltages (older ICOM and Yaesu radios) and some also use BCD (binary parallel). Still, serial is the most flexible and the most compatible. I would be surprised if the KPA500 does not accept the Kenwood CAT commands to set band as that is what the K2 and K3 normally generate through their serial ports. It appears that you can connect to RS-232 connector #8 on the back of the KPA500 for this. (Probably, I am guessing but I have been able to control other Elecraft devices from the computer this way and they do suggest that it can be controlled from a Kenwood radio via this connector.) If that is the case then you just need a serial connection from the computer running PowerSDR and the KPA500. If you wish to use digital mode programs like fldigi or Ham Radio Deluxe you will need to use DDutil to repeat the CAT data to the KPA500. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
