Re: [Flexradio] Fan noise

[Ross Stenberg]

Sounds kind of noisy to me (pun intended)

>>>Well I really don't like headphones for one, and more importantly 
they make it hard to listen to 4 or 5 radios at one time. And a key to 
listening to that many radios at one time is having the ability to 
spatially orientate the various audio sources, headphones and audio 
combiners simply don't allow for that.


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Re: [Flexradio] Fan noise

[William H. Fite]

A solution that suits the user is all that matters.  I have space
limitations and could not implement your solution if i wanted to.  So for
me...quiet fans.

I made a poor choice of words when I said that the brain "filtered" the
noise.  Almost immediately after I sent that, I heard Dr. Lloyd Elfner (of
blessed memory) clucking his tongue at me as he so often did in the lab.
 Actually, it does not do that at all.  The brain processes the noise just
as it does all sound but the consciousness disregards it.  That really
isn't right, either, but it is closer than the filter idea.  A better
explanation would probably bore people to tears.

My real point was that, if an individual has normal hearing, no amount of
acoustic treatment will totally deaden sound.  Our chamber was a moderately
good one that had an acoustic floor of 0dB.  The best in the world go to
about -10dB or so.  In spaces that silent, one can hear the movement of
one's clothing as one breathes and the sound of blood moving through the
vessels.  This totally freaks out some individuals.  We kept a small
portable radio in the chamber so that when subjects became too anxious we
could generate some sound while we got them out.

In other words, Duane, nothing that you or I can do will result in a 0dB
sound floor, outside of buying a hugely expensive anechoic chamber for our
radios.  That's why continually listening, hearing, reducing, listening,
hearing, reducing is, as I noted earlier, simply chasing one's tail.
 Nothing wrong with that, of course, if that is one's schtick but I'd
rather ignore the (relatively) whitish noise of fans until my brain decides
I'm not interested in listening to them and turns them off on my behalf.

Granted that low signal levels can get lost in ambient sound but it is for
that that God granted unto us the gain control.  And headsets.

Anyway, just another point of view.  So long as we're having fun, what
difference does it make?

Bill



On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Duane - N9DG  wrote:

> --- On Wed, 12/7/11, William H. Fite  wrote:
>
> > Y'know, Duane, rather than going to
> > all that trouble, you could just
> > get some quiet fans.  Noctua (a German company, I
> > don't think they
> > have much presence in the amateur radio market) makes low
> > speed (~1200
> > rpm) fans in 80mm, 120mm, and 140mm sizes.  They are
> > about $25 each
> > and they make less noise than any fan I have heard.
>
> 
>
> I wonder how many of those fans I'd need to quiet down the furnace blowers
> ;)..
>
> The reality is that a lot of equipment you buy today will have fans in
> them. So rather than trying address each one individually piecemeal, I
> decided it was easier to make an environment to put them in, and then put
> myself in another quieter environment that is separate. Also consider that
> a fair amount of that new equipment you buy doesn't lend itself to fan
> mods, so that approach is rather limited in effectiveness. So I took an
> overall systems design view of how to address the noise rather than trying
> to do it with each piece of gear individually.
>
>
> > Here's another point, possibly one that you don't want to
> > hear.  The
> > human brain has an incredibly ability to filter out noise,
> > especially
> > constant noise that varies little in loudness, frequency,
> > or aural
> > characteristics.  Unfortunately, to get that mechanism
> > to work, you
> > have to deliberately stop paying conscious attention to the
> > sounds
> > that are bothersome to you.  So long as an individual
> > sits down and
> > consciously listens to see how much noise the fan is
> > making, and then
> > reminds onesself how disturbing it is, the brain will
> > conclude that
> > the individual doesn't WANT that sound filtered and will
> > not do so.
>
> Actually the fact that the shack environment had become quite noisy with
> all the various fans, etc. would mostly become apparent at shutdown time.
> Then it was a clear realization that "oh wow, they do all make a lot of
> noise"... Adding one new piece of gear at a time it slowly accumulates, so
> the noise accumulation creeps up on you. And even if your brain can "filter
> out" much of the noise it is non the less fatiguing, not unlike a radios
> with noisy RF/IF/audio circuits. So when chasing weak signals high levels
> of audio noise in the shack environment is about as bad as noisy
> electronics, the weak signals will be buried...
>
> Undoubtedly some who are reading this are now thinking why not just use
> headphones... Well I really don't like headphones for one, and more
> importantly they make it hard to listen to 4 or 5 radios at one time. And a
> key to listening to that many radios at one time is having the ability to
> spatially orientate the various audio sources, headphones and audio
> combiners simply don't allow for that.
>
> > In other words, so long as you listen for background noise,
> > you'll
> > hear some.  One can end up chasing one's tail in this
> > regard.
>
> I've 

Re: [Flexradio] Fan noise

[Duane - N9DG]

--- On Wed, 12/7/11, William H. Fite  wrote:

> Y'know, Duane, rather than going to
> all that trouble, you could just
> get some quiet fans.  Noctua (a German company, I
> don't think they
> have much presence in the amateur radio market) makes low
> speed (~1200
> rpm) fans in 80mm, 120mm, and 140mm sizes.  They are
> about $25 each
> and they make less noise than any fan I have heard.

 

I wonder how many of those fans I'd need to quiet down the furnace blowers ;)..

The reality is that a lot of equipment you buy today will have fans in them. So 
rather than trying address each one individually piecemeal, I decided it was 
easier to make an environment to put them in, and then put myself in another 
quieter environment that is separate. Also consider that a fair amount of that 
new equipment you buy doesn't lend itself to fan mods, so that approach is 
rather limited in effectiveness. So I took an overall systems design view of 
how to address the noise rather than trying to do it with each piece of gear 
individually.

 
> Here's another point, possibly one that you don't want to
> hear.  The
> human brain has an incredibly ability to filter out noise,
> especially
> constant noise that varies little in loudness, frequency,
> or aural
> characteristics.  Unfortunately, to get that mechanism
> to work, you
> have to deliberately stop paying conscious attention to the
> sounds
> that are bothersome to you.  So long as an individual
> sits down and
> consciously listens to see how much noise the fan is
> making, and then
> reminds onesself how disturbing it is, the brain will
> conclude that
> the individual doesn't WANT that sound filtered and will
> not do so.

Actually the fact that the shack environment had become quite noisy with all 
the various fans, etc. would mostly become apparent at shutdown time. Then it 
was a clear realization that "oh wow, they do all make a lot of noise"... 
Adding one new piece of gear at a time it slowly accumulates, so the noise 
accumulation creeps up on you. And even if your brain can "filter out" much of 
the noise it is non the less fatiguing, not unlike a radios with noisy 
RF/IF/audio circuits. So when chasing weak signals high levels of audio noise 
in the shack environment is about as bad as noisy electronics, the weak signals 
will be buried...

Undoubtedly some who are reading this are now thinking why not just use 
headphones... Well I really don't like headphones for one, and more importantly 
they make it hard to listen to 4 or 5 radios at one time. And a key to 
listening to that many radios at one time is having the ability to spatially 
orientate the various audio sources, headphones and audio combiners simply 
don't allow for that.

> In other words, so long as you listen for background noise,
> you'll
> hear some.  One can end up chasing one's tail in this
> regard.

I've already had a considerable degree of success as noted in my previous post. 
With each improvement the quieter sources of noise start reveal themselves, 
that alone represents success. It then becomes a practical matter of deciding 
just how much time, effort, and $'s does one want to take to chase the problem, 
and to what degree. But it was clear to me some years ago that attacking each 
piece of gear individually was going to be a lot more work than simply placing 
all the offending equipment in its own space so that I don't have to be sitting 
next to it anymore. It has been just these last few years that I've finally 
been in a position to pursue this approach.

Duane
N9DG


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Re: [Flexradio] Knowledge center

[Brett Gazdzinski]

This is what I got:
http://www.amazon.com/CARD-ROSEWILL-1394A-RC-504-RETAIL/dp/B004F3DM6C/ref=sr_1_40?ie=UTF8&qid=1323306469&sr=8-40


Seems to work fine, no problem with windows 7.
Its native so no drivers needed.

Or, you can look on Amazon for one with a TI chipset.

Brett
N2DTS

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob VanFossen" 

To: "Flex Reflector" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:07 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] Knowledge center




Having trouble accessing the KC.  Is it down?

(http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50179.aspx?Keywords=firewire+c
ards

I have a problem with f3k, long delays etc.  I am thinking that the weak
link here is the el-cheapo firewire card, and was looking for
recommendations for a pci or pci express card to get on order. The card I
have was given to me as a pull from a fellow ham's computer that he didn't
want or need.  I don't even know what is, but seems to work OK.  I have 
been

having lots of delays in updates for N1MM and CW Skimmer. Also with N1MM
sending cw, it sends bad stuff, like missing dah's or extra long dits and
dah's.  The key works just fine (thru a K1EL keyer).

I think maybe the fireware card is the culprit, but not sure and as they
don't cost a lot, it would be worthwhile to replace with a known reliable
product.  Using Win7. Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000

[Brett Gazdzinski]

My 3000 is close to the operating position and I find the fans on the loud 
side.
So I took the cover off and noticed the fans are mounted directly on a metal 
plate that mounts directly to the base of the 3000.
Its not so much the fan blowing noise as the mechanical noise from them 
being mounted directly to metal pieces that ring like bell metal, so I dug 
out some thick gasket material and put it between the fans the the metal, 
cut out in the shape of the fans. That reduced the noise a bit.

Lots of space to play with the fans in there.
Rubber mounting them somehow would likely really reduce the noise.

Another trick would be to rack mount it, the noise would be inside the rack 
or cabinet.

I may try that as I have some low rack mount shelves.
Besides the power button, there is no reason to look at or have to get at 
the thing, unlike other radios...


Brett
N2DTS



- Original Message - 
From: "Burt" 
To: ; ; "konrad schultz" 


Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000



I am not really concerned about a mike picking up the fan, I am concerned 
about me being bugged by it. I do not even like the fan on my computer. I 
never heard a fan on the 5000. It has a fan?


--- On Wed, 12/7/11, konrad schultz  wrote:


From: konrad schultz 
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000
To: joe.n...@gmail.com, flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 9:59 AM

I love my new 3000 and the fan noise makes no difference to
me since I use a professional directional dynamic
microphone. Most decent directional microphones will
not pic up fan noise coming from behind them as they are
designed to be receive sound from the front and slightly off
front to either side. My FLEX 3000 on my desk is maybe
16 inches from the back of the mic - which is on an $80
telescoping desk boom. No
problems. Wiring the modular mic plug was a
small challenge, but the FLEX website has detailed
explanations of how to wire various mics/cords to
them. It's really not that hard. Good luck, Best
Konrad W1KON


 > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:45:51 -0500
> From: joe.n...@gmail.com
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000
>
> To me, the fan in the 3000 is very noisy and you have
to deal with the
> modular RJ45 mic plug. It's worth it to me to have the
5000.
>
> Joe N9VX
>
>
--
> I am thinking of going to the 3000 from the 5000. I do
not care about a second
> receiver. Is there any other disadvantage for making
the move. It just seems
> the 5000 is more than I need, it is not a money
issue.
>
> Advice?
>
> Burt
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Re: [Flexradio] Knowledge center

[Tim Ellison, W4TME]

The Knowledge Center is back up.  Sorry for the inconvenience.  Darned 
computers :-)


Tim Ellison, W4TME
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Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 223
Email: t...@flexradio.com 
Web: www.flexradio.com 

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On 12/7/2011 6:07 PM, Bob VanFossen wrote:


Having trouble accessing the KC.  Is it down?

(http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50179.aspx?Keywords=firewire+c
ards

I have a problem with f3k, long delays etc.  I am thinking that the weak
link here is the el-cheapo firewire card, and was looking for
recommendations for a pci or pci express card to get on order. The card I
have was given to me as a pull from a fellow ham's computer that he didn't
want or need.  I don't even know what is, but seems to work OK.  I have been
having lots of delays in updates for N1MM and CW Skimmer. Also with N1MM
sending cw, it sends bad stuff, like missing dah's or extra long dits and
dah's.  The key works just fine (thru a K1EL keyer).

I think maybe the fireware card is the culprit, but not sure and as they
don't cost a lot, it would be worthwhile to replace with a known reliable
product.  Using Win7. Any help would be appreciated.

Bob, K4DJG


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[Flexradio] old question

[Leon Bishop]

What are the keyboard keys to bring up the calibration window?  Yeah I
should remember, but having a Senior moment a lots lately! LOL

de Leon N5PU
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[Flexradio] Knowledge center

[Bob VanFossen]

 
Having trouble accessing the KC.  Is it down? 
 
(http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50179.aspx?Keywords=firewire+c
ards

I have a problem with f3k, long delays etc.  I am thinking that the weak
link here is the el-cheapo firewire card, and was looking for
recommendations for a pci or pci express card to get on order. The card I
have was given to me as a pull from a fellow ham's computer that he didn't
want or need.  I don't even know what is, but seems to work OK.  I have been
having lots of delays in updates for N1MM and CW Skimmer. Also with N1MM
sending cw, it sends bad stuff, like missing dah's or extra long dits and
dah's.  The key works just fine (thru a K1EL keyer).

I think maybe the fireware card is the culprit, but not sure and as they
don't cost a lot, it would be worthwhile to replace with a known reliable
product.  Using Win7. Any help would be appreciated.

Bob, K4DJG


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Re: [Flexradio] Microphones and headsets

[Ray, K9DUR]

Dave,

When all else fails, read the manual.

According to page 4 of the FLEX-3000 Owner's Manual, the answer is "Yes".

73, Ray, K9DUR
http://k9dur.info


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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Gomberg
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 4:06 PM
To: Brian Lloyd; Bob
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Microphones and headsets

At 10:58 12/7/2011, Brian Lloyd wrote:
>Flex brings +5v to the mic jack to use as bias for electret mics.

Is that true on the F3K as well on the RJ-45 on the front panel?



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Re: [Flexradio] Microphones and headsets

[Brian Lloyd]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Dave Gomberg  wrote:

> At 10:58 12/7/2011, Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
>> Flex brings +5v to the mic jack to use as bias for electret mics.
>>
>
> Is that true on the F3K as well on the RJ-45 on the front panel?


Yes, and the 1500 too.

Flex 5000:
1 - NC
2 - mic bias (+5)
3 - NC
4 - NC
5 - chassis ground (shield)
6 - PTT
7 - mic-
8 - mic+

Flex 3000:
1 - down
2 - up
3 - mic bias (+5v)
4 - mic ground (mic-)
5 - mic in (mic+)
6 - PTT
7 - ground (PTT and shield)
8 - fast


Flex 1500
1 - NC
2 - NC
3 - mic bias (+5v)
4 - mic ground (mic-)
5 - mic in (mic+)
6 - PTT
7 - ground (PTT and shield)
8 - NC

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Re: [Flexradio] Microphones and headsets

[Dave Gomberg]

At 10:58 12/7/2011, Brian Lloyd wrote:

Flex brings +5v to the mic jack to use as bias for electret mics.


Is that true on the F3K as well on the RJ-45 on the front panel?



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[Flexradio] Ignore - K9DUR Voice Keyer Configuration Problem

[Gary Robertson]

Ignore my previous message about problems getting Voice Keyer to work 
with my Flex-3000. Once I checked the VAC button in PowerSDR, everything 
started working properly.


Sorry for the wasted bandwidth.

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[Flexradio] K9DUR Voice Keyer Configuration Problem

[Gary Robertson]

I am having trouble getting K9DUR's Voice Keyer program to work properly 
with my Flex-3000 (PowerSDR 2.2.3). Using DDUtil and VSP manager.


I have successfully recorded a WAV file using my Flex-3000 microphone 
and modified it according to instructions, using Audicity. I was able to 
successfully import this WAV file into Voice Keyer and can hear it 
through my computer's headphone output when I click the test button in 
Voice Keyer's Setup Profiles box.


In Voice Keyer's Hardware Setup box, I selected Virtual Cable 2 to send 
messages to the radio (Virtual Cable 2 is my input to the Flex-3000), 
Primary Sound Driver is designated to monitor messages, PTT Serial Port 
is set to COM5 with DTR and RTS both checked. The radio's PTT is enabled 
and setup correctly.


When I click the configured message box in Voice Keyer, the Flex-3000 
WILL key up properly. However, the radio is obviously NOT getting the 
message from Voice Keyer since there is NO modulation, therefore NO 
watts going out. I can hear the message however through the computer's 
headphone jack. In Voice Keyer's Hardware Setup, I switched to Virtual 
Cable 1 instead of Virtual Cable 2 with NO success.


Obviously, I have something configured wrong. Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: [Flexradio] Fan noise

[William H. Fite]

Y'know, Duane, rather than going to all that trouble, you could just
get some quiet fans.  Noctua (a German company, I don't think they
have much presence in the amateur radio market) makes low speed (~1200
rpm) fans in 80mm, 120mm, and 140mm sizes.  They are about $25 each
and they make less noise than any fan I have heard.  I use two of them
on my CPU heat exchanger and three more in the case.  Those five fans
all running at once make less noise than the single 80mm fan that came
on the stock AMD CPU cooler. They run on 12VDC but have no PWM
capability so the only way to slow them down (should one want to)
would be to reduce the voltage.

Here's another point, possibly one that you don't want to hear.  The
human brain has an incredibly ability to filter out noise, especially
constant noise that varies little in loudness, frequency, or aural
characteristics.  Unfortunately, to get that mechanism to work, you
have to deliberately stop paying conscious attention to the sounds
that are bothersome to you.  So long as an individual sits down and
consciously listens to see how much noise the fan is making, and then
reminds onesself how disturbing it is, the brain will conclude that
the individual doesn't WANT that sound filtered and will not do so.

In other words, so long as you listen for background noise, you'll
hear some.  One can end up chasing one's tail in this regard.

Good luck,

Bill (who spent lots of time as a research assistant working on
sensation and perception studies in an anechoic chamber)

On 12/7/11, Ross Stenberg  wrote:
> WHAT!!
> SAY AGAIN!!
> EXCUSE ME!
>
>
I too am annoyed by ambient noise, especially fans.. ALL fans make noise,

some just less than others.. Once you have your other ambient noise
sources quieted down enough in the shack then the 5K's fan is very
noticeable. Here's my tale...
>
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Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000?

[Gary Warner]

Brian,

Since I do not have any close by stations, I guess I will stick with my 
3000 and spend the money on another amplifier.


Gary

On 12/7/2011 11:03 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote:



On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Gary Warner > wrote:


To all,

With all of this discussion about the 3000 and 5000, it is
apparent that the 5000 has lots more bells and whistles than the
3000.   But, I need to ask if the 5000 can hear more or send
better or clearer than the 3000 in the 1.8 to 30 MHz range for a
given antenna.


No. You will find sensitivity and selectivity comparable. But the 10dB 
greater dynamic range of the 5000 will allow it to operate normally 
with signals down near the noise floor even in the presence of very 
strong nearby interfering signals. If you live with a Big Gun nearby 
who floods you with 60dB over S-9 signals, you will definitely want 
the 5000. If you are not dealing with that kind of potential 
interference then you probably won't notice the difference.


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Re: [Flexradio] Fan noise

[Ross Stenberg]

WHAT!!
SAY AGAIN!!
EXCUSE ME!


I too am annoyed by ambient noise, especially fans.. ALL fans make noise, 
some just less than others.. Once you have your other ambient noise 
sources quieted down enough in the shack then the 5K's fan is very 
noticeable. Here's my tale...




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Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000?

[Brian Lloyd]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Gary Warner  wrote:

> To all,
>
> With all of this discussion about the 3000 and 5000, it is apparent that
> the 5000 has lots more bells and whistles than the 3000.   But, I need to
> ask if the 5000 can hear more or send better or clearer than the 3000 in
> the 1.8 to 30 MHz range for a given antenna.
>

No. You will find sensitivity and selectivity comparable. But the 10dB
greater dynamic range of the 5000 will allow it to operate normally with
signals down near the noise floor even in the presence of very strong
nearby interfering signals. If you live with a Big Gun nearby who floods
you with 60dB over S-9 signals, you will definitely want the 5000. If you
are not dealing with that kind of potential interference then you probably
won't notice the difference.

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Re: [Flexradio] Microphones and headsets

[Brian Lloyd]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Bob  wrote:

> Hi to the group. I've been thinking about using a headset for my flex5000A.
> (dangerous thing thinking !). I want to try a standard gaming headset which
> comes with a mike and a headphone mini jacks and do the audio shaping with
> the Flex. The question is, that I remember at one point in time that the
> computer input for the mike jack supplied a 5 volt bias to the microphone
> element. Is this still so ? or can I wire the mike jack straight into the
> flex mike input.
>

Yes, all that is so and Flex brings +5v to the mic jack to use as bias for
electret mics. You just need to add a resistor between the +5v pin and the
mic+ pin. This holds true for the 3000 and 1500 as well, just that it is a
different mic plug.

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[Flexradio] 3000 or 5000?

[Gary Warner]

To all,

With all of this discussion about the 3000 and 5000, it is apparent that 
the 5000 has lots more bells and whistles than the 3000.   But, I need 
to ask if the 5000 can hear more or send better or clearer than the 3000 
in the 1.8 to 30 MHz range for a given antenna.


Gary
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Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000

[Steven Hess]

My computer fan noise is -40 dBm according to my iPhone and the IC-706 I am
using on  10 meters for WSPR has a more noticeable fan than the Flex-3000
here. The Flex-3000 is some distance away from my operating position.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Tim Ellison wrote:

> If a computer fan, which are not that loud, bugs you, then FLEX-3000 when
> transmitting will also bug you.
>
> I mitigated the problem by putting the FLEX-3000 underneath the operating
> desk at the far end from where my mic is located.  Be careful about putting
> it in an acoustic enclosure since the radio has to work at relieving itself
> of heat due to the small form factor and low thermal mass.I also use
> the Downward Expander in PowerSDR to mute back ground noise.  it works much
> better (smoother) than the noise gate.
>
> Tim Ellison
>
>
> On 12/7/2011 11:23 AM, Burt wrote:
>
>> I am not really concerned about a mike picking up the fan, I am concerned
>> about me being bugged by it. I do not even like the fan on my computer. I
>> never heard a fan on the 5000. It has a fan?
>>
>> --- On Wed, 12/7/11, konrad schultz  wrote:
>>
>>  From: konrad schultz
>>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000
>>> To: joe.n...@gmail.com, flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>>> Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 9:59 AM
>>>
>>> I love my new 3000 and the fan noise makes no difference to
>>> me since I use a professional directional dynamic
>>> microphone.  Most decent directional microphones will
>>> not pic up fan noise coming from behind them as they are
>>> designed to be receive sound from the front and slightly off
>>> front to either side.  My FLEX 3000 on my desk is maybe
>>> 16 inches from the back of the mic - which is on an $80
>>> telescoping desk boom.  No
>>> problems.   Wiring the modular mic plug was a
>>> small challenge, but the FLEX website has detailed
>>> explanations of how to wire various mics/cords to
>>> them.  It's really not that hard.  Good luck, Best
>>> Konrad W1KON
>>>
>>>
>>>  >  Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:45:51 -0500
>>>
 From: joe.n...@gmail.com
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000

 To me, the fan in the 3000 is very noisy and you have

>>> to deal with the
>>>
 modular RJ45 mic plug. It's worth it to me to have the

>>> 5000.
>>>
 Joe  N9VX


  --**--**
>>> --**--**--
>>>
 I am thinking of going to the 3000 from the 5000. I do

>>> not care about a second
>>>
 receiver. Is there any other disadvantage for making

>>> the move. It just seems
>>>
 the 5000 is more than I need, it is not a money

>>> issue.
>>>
 Advice?

 Burt

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[Flexradio] Microphones and headsets

[Bob]

Hi to the group. I've been thinking about using a headset for my flex5000A.
(dangerous thing thinking !). I want to try a standard gaming headset which
comes with a mike and a headphone mini jacks and do the audio shaping with
the Flex. The question is, that I remember at one point in time that the
computer input for the mike jack supplied a 5 volt bias to the microphone
element. Is this still so ? or can I wire the mike jack straight into the
flex mike input.
 
Regards Bob Townsend

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Re: [Flexradio] Fan noise

[Duane - N9DG]

I too am annoyed by ambient noise, especially fans.. ALL fans make noise, some 
just less than others.. Once you have your other ambient noise sources quieted 
down enough in the shack then the 5K's fan is very noticeable. Here's my tale...

After building a new house and of course a new shack space (it uses up about 
1/3 of the basement). One requirement was to make the new shack be as quiet as 
possible. And also to make the equipment be easily accessible, both front *and* 
back.

So for the 16' long equipment wall I used shelving that attaches to a wall. But 
the "wall" that it is attached to is essentially just 2x6 studs that the shelf 
support rails are screwed into. The spaces between the studs is completely open 
for easy backside access to all of the equipment located on all the shelves.

So to control the noise sources I hung sound barrier curtains about 2+ feet 
beyond the open equipment wall. That leaves a about a 2 foot wide alley to get 
access to the equipment backsides. So everything that makes noise goes on the 
other side of that sound barrier wall from the operating area on some rather 
industrial strength free standing shelves (4 levels 30"x72"). This shelf unit 
is perpendicular to the equipment/sound barrier walls, so it has both front and 
back side easy access as well. So basically all of the items that have fans in 
them, including the 5K is put on those shelves. So the "noisy" side of the 
sound barrier curtain I consider to be my "equipment room", it also has the 
furnace an few other household "equipment" in there as well. The KVM and 
various other control/support cables are then routed through the sound barrier 
wall to the monitors and all the other no-fan radios/equipment sitting on the 
shelves in the "operator's space". To
 further suppress sound in the equipment room I've hung some strategically 
placed sound absorbing panels to reduce the sound level that the barrier panels 
have to deal with.

I still have some ways to go to further suppress the noise sources, but it is 
already pretty good. As I was increasing the level of sound suppression I'd 
find more and more items that I did not previously notice as being noise 
producers, and they soon became irritatingly obvious. The 5K was one of them, 
so it (along with its "blue death ray" LED) got banished to the "equipment 
room", I can now only hear its relays click as I change bands.

The operator's space is now quiet enough that I now notice the white noise hiss 
from some of my powered speakers.  Most of my linear power supplies are 
abundantly obvious sources of noise now too (still thinking about how those 
will get moved to the equipment room too). I'm even being irritated by one of 
the CCFL LCD monitor back-light ballasts in one of my monitors. I have two 
identical monitors, one makes very little noise, the other is a lot noisier... 
Maybe some LED back lit monitors will eventually fix that.

Suppressing the other household noises is now increasingly front and center for 
what needs attention. Things like lagging the heating ducts and to do something 
more with the basement ceiling..

So I'm enjoying my fairly quiet shack. Reminds of my early days in ham radio 
when I didn't have much equipment at all, not to mention any equipment that 
could even make fan noise :)..

Duane
N9DG

--- On Wed, 12/7/11, Burt  wrote:

I am not really concerned about a mike picking up the fan, I am concerned about 
me being bugged by it. I do not even like the fan on my computer. I never heard 
a fan on the 5000. It has a fan?



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Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000

[Tim Ellison]

If a computer fan, which are not that loud, bugs you, then FLEX-3000 
when transmitting will also bug you.


I mitigated the problem by putting the FLEX-3000 underneath the 
operating desk at the far end from where my mic is located.  Be careful 
about putting it in an acoustic enclosure since the radio has to work at 
relieving itself of heat due to the small form factor and low thermal 
mass.I also use the Downward Expander in PowerSDR to mute back 
ground noise.  it works much better (smoother) than the noise gate.


Tim Ellison

On 12/7/2011 11:23 AM, Burt wrote:

I am not really concerned about a mike picking up the fan, I am concerned about 
me being bugged by it. I do not even like the fan on my computer. I never heard 
a fan on the 5000. It has a fan?

--- On Wed, 12/7/11, konrad schultz  wrote:


From: konrad schultz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000
To: joe.n...@gmail.com, flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 9:59 AM

I love my new 3000 and the fan noise makes no difference to
me since I use a professional directional dynamic
microphone.  Most decent directional microphones will
not pic up fan noise coming from behind them as they are
designed to be receive sound from the front and slightly off
front to either side.  My FLEX 3000 on my desk is maybe
16 inches from the back of the mic - which is on an $80
telescoping desk boom.  No
problems.   Wiring the modular mic plug was a
small challenge, but the FLEX website has detailed
explanations of how to wire various mics/cords to
them.  It's really not that hard.  Good luck, Best
Konrad W1KON


  >  Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:45:51 -0500

From: joe.n...@gmail.com
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000

To me, the fan in the 3000 is very noisy and you have

to deal with the

modular RJ45 mic plug. It's worth it to me to have the

5000.

Joe  N9VX



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receiver. Is there any other disadvantage for making

the move. It just seems

the 5000 is more than I need, it is not a money

issue.

Advice?

Burt

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Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000

[Brian Lloyd]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Burt  wrote:

>
> I am not really concerned about a mike picking up the fan, I am concerned
> about me being bugged by it. I do not even like the fan on my computer. I
> never heard a fan on the 5000. It has a fan?
>

I have both and have used them side-by-side. The fan in the 5000 is just
about silent ... unless you install the VU5K and then it gets *much* louder
... all the time. The 5000 without the VU5K is virtually silent even at
100% power 100% of the time. So if having a quiet radio is important, you
will prefer the 5000.

OTOH, I do not find the fan in the 3000 to be objectionable. Even at 100%
power, 100% duty cycle the fan ramps up. Yes you can hear it but it isn't
that bad ... unless you are really sensitive to fan noise. And while not
overly loud, it *is* higher pitched which may make it more objectionable to
some.

If you aren't sure, get the 3000 and take advantage of the 30-day,
no-questions-asked, refund policy. Try the 3000 and if the fan bugs you,
send the 3000 back and get the 5000.

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Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000

[Burt]

I am not really concerned about a mike picking up the fan, I am concerned about 
me being bugged by it. I do not even like the fan on my computer. I never heard 
a fan on the 5000. It has a fan?

--- On Wed, 12/7/11, konrad schultz  wrote:

> From: konrad schultz 
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000
> To: joe.n...@gmail.com, flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 9:59 AM
> 
> I love my new 3000 and the fan noise makes no difference to
> me since I use a professional directional dynamic
> microphone.  Most decent directional microphones will
> not pic up fan noise coming from behind them as they are
> designed to be receive sound from the front and slightly off
> front to either side.  My FLEX 3000 on my desk is maybe
> 16 inches from the back of the mic - which is on an $80
> telescoping desk boom.  No
> problems.   Wiring the modular mic plug was a
> small challenge, but the FLEX website has detailed
> explanations of how to wire various mics/cords to
> them.  It's really not that hard.  Good luck, Best
> Konrad W1KON
> 
> 
>  > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:45:51 -0500
> > From: joe.n...@gmail.com
> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000
> > 
> > To me, the fan in the 3000 is very noisy and you have
> to deal with the
> > modular RJ45 mic plug. It's worth it to me to have the
> 5000.
> > 
> > Joe  N9VX
> > 
> >
> --
> > I am thinking of going to the 3000 from the 5000. I do
> not care about a second
> > receiver. Is there any other disadvantage for making
> the move. It just seems
> > the 5000 is more than I need, it is not a money
> issue.
> > 
> > Advice?
> > 
> > Burt
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Re: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000

[konrad schultz]

I love my new 3000 and the fan noise makes no difference to me since I use a 
professional directional dynamic microphone.  Most decent directional 
microphones will not pic up fan noise coming from behind them as they are 
designed to be receive sound from the front and slightly off front to either 
side.  My FLEX 3000 on my desk is maybe 16 inches from the back of the mic - 
which is on an $80 telescoping desk boom.  No problems.   Wiring the modular 
mic plug was a small challenge, but the FLEX website has detailed explanations 
of how to wire various mics/cords to them.  It's really not that hard.  Good 
luck, Best Konrad W1KON


 > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:45:51 -0500
> From: joe.n...@gmail.com
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: [Flexradio] 3000 or 5000
> 
> To me, the fan in the 3000 is very noisy and you have to deal with the
> modular RJ45 mic plug. It's worth it to me to have the 5000.
> 
> Joe  N9VX
> 
> --
> I am thinking of going to the 3000 from the 5000. I do not care about a second
> receiver. Is there any other disadvantage for making the move. It just seems
> the 5000 is more than I need, it is not a money issue.
> 
> Advice?
> 
> Burt
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[Flexradio] 3000 or 5000

[Joe Word]

To me, the fan in the 3000 is very noisy and you have to deal with the
modular RJ45 mic plug. It's worth it to me to have the 5000.

Joe  N9VX

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Advice?

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[Flexradio] No RF out in CW mode SDR1000, Power SDR 2.0.22

[Len N3NGE]

I am running an SDR 1000 and a W5XD Multi-keyer which have been in 
service for several years as an IF for UHF transverters.
When I upgraded Power SDR from 1.18.3 to 2.0.22 the RF output stopped 
while in CW mode (SSB is OK).
If I launch the older version of Power SDR 1.18.3 the RF output returns 
to normal.
I have not found any errors in the configuration of 2.0.22 but obviously 
I missed something.

Suggestions?

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Re: [Flexradio] Heil Headset and FLEX-5000

[Carter Craigie]

Thanks, Bob. I am looking to see what parts I have here. I was trying to see
if I could make these adapters without bothering you, but you are too
smart/quick for me! Hi!

Since I don't want to cut my present Heil headset wires/connectors, it looks
like I need:

One mono 1/8" socket for the mike, as I already have a mono RCA phono plug:
Radio Shack 274-333.

One mono 1/4" socket for the foot switch, and I can use the second mono RCA
plug I already have: Radio Shack 274-340.

I will try to pick these up today, and start doing the wiring together of
all 4 parts.

(I will plug the headphones plug right into the front jack, as you
suggested. I already have the adapter I need for that!)

Thanks for your help--AGAIN!

73,

Carter

-Original Message-
From: Robert McGwier [mailto:rwmcgw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:39 AM
To: carter...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Heil Headset and FLEX-5000

1/8" to RCA phono adapter applied to Line In.

1/4" to RCA phone adapter applied to PTT


Both on the back.

Bob


On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Carter Craigie 
wrote:
> My Heil headset has two plugs on the end of its cable:
>
> One is a black 1/4" stereo phono plug for the headphones, and I see 
> where to plug that into the PHONES jack on the front of the radio, so 
> no problem there.
>
> The second is a gray 1/8" mono plug for the mike, and I DON'T see 
> where to plug that in.
>
> There is no jack of that size on the front of the '5000, and I need 
> help knowing where and how to plug it into the back of the '5000, as 
> there is no appropriately sized jack on the back (bumpy!) side.
>
>
>
> Also, I don't see where or how to plug in my 1/4" mono foot switch.
>
>
>
> Any help please for these two problems?
>
> 73,
>
> Carter N3AO
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Heil Headset and FLEX-5000

[Bob McGwier]

The RCA adapter plugs are for the back panel inputs (line in and PTT) so we
can make sure the front plug is working.

Bob


On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Bob McGwier  wrote:

> Thanks guys.  I think we are having a serious problem with the headset.
> Carter has two of the adapter plugs.
>
> I am REALLY hoping it is the headset and not the rig.  I'm going to take
> over a Traveler and RCA phono plug adapters and make sure we have the mixer
> settings right which is of course new to Carter as he has gone from Flex
> 1500 to 5000 fully loaded.  It is a learning curve!
>
> He is getting my poor help as N1SMM and I are going to operate the 10m
> contest with the Craigies this weekend.
>
> 73's and thanks for helping us.
>
> Bob
> N4HY
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Drax Felton  wrote:
>
>> And the second plug is for your Handheld or foot pedal keying switch once
>> you have the adapter cord.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Carsten Esch  wrote:
>>
>> > ... you need the additional Heil AD1-Y8 adapter for the FLEX5000.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Carsten, DL6LAU
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 07.12.11 12:17, schrieb Carter Craigie:
>> >> My Heil headset has two plugs on the end of its cable:
>> >>
>> >> One is a black 1/4" stereo phono plug for the headphones, and I see
>> where to
>> >> plug that into the PHONES jack on the front of the radio, so no problem
>> >> there.
>> >>
>> >> The second is a gray 1/8" mono plug for the mike, and I DON'T see
>> where to
>> >> plug that in.
>> >>
>> >> There is no jack of that size on the front of the '5000, and I need
>> help
>> >> knowing where and how to plug it into the back of the '5000, as there
>> is no
>> >> appropriately sized jack on the back (bumpy!) side.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Also, I don't see where or how to plug in my 1/4" mono foot switch.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Any help please for these two problems?
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >>
>> >> Carter N3AO
>> >>
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Re: [Flexradio] Heil Headset and FLEX-5000

[Bob McGwier]

Thanks guys.  I think we are having a serious problem with the headset.
Carter has two of the adapter plugs.

I am REALLY hoping it is the headset and not the rig.  I'm going to take
over a Traveler and RCA phono plug adapters and make sure we have the mixer
settings right which is of course new to Carter as he has gone from Flex
1500 to 5000 fully loaded.  It is a learning curve!

He is getting my poor help as N1SMM and I are going to operate the 10m
contest with the Craigies this weekend.

73's and thanks for helping us.

Bob
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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Drax Felton  wrote:

> And the second plug is for your Handheld or foot pedal keying switch once
> you have the adapter cord.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Carsten Esch  wrote:
>
> > ... you need the additional Heil AD1-Y8 adapter for the FLEX5000.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Carsten, DL6LAU
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 07.12.11 12:17, schrieb Carter Craigie:
> >> My Heil headset has two plugs on the end of its cable:
> >>
> >> One is a black 1/4" stereo phono plug for the headphones, and I see
> where to
> >> plug that into the PHONES jack on the front of the radio, so no problem
> >> there.
> >>
> >> The second is a gray 1/8" mono plug for the mike, and I DON'T see where
> to
> >> plug that in.
> >>
> >> There is no jack of that size on the front of the '5000, and I need help
> >> knowing where and how to plug it into the back of the '5000, as there
> is no
> >> appropriately sized jack on the back (bumpy!) side.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Also, I don't see where or how to plug in my 1/4" mono foot switch.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Any help please for these two problems?
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Carter N3AO
> >>
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Re: [Flexradio] Heil Headset and FLEX-5000

[Paul Mandel]

The gray is the mic connector.  You can build an adapter for about $10 if
you have to buy all the parts or less if you have a parts box.  

If you plan to use a footswitch just us the mic line on the 8 pin plug and
then use the ptt on the back of the Flex.

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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Carter Craigie
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:18 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Heil Headset and FLEX-5000

My Heil headset has two plugs on the end of its cable:

One is a black 1/4" stereo phono plug for the headphones, and I see where to
plug that into the PHONES jack on the front of the radio, so no problem
there.

The second is a gray 1/8" mono plug for the mike, and I DON'T see where to
plug that in. 

There is no jack of that size on the front of the '5000, and I need help
knowing where and how to plug it into the back of the '5000, as there is no
appropriately sized jack on the back (bumpy!) side.

 

Also, I don't see where or how to plug in my 1/4" mono foot switch.

 

Any help please for these two problems?

73,

Carter N3AO

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Re: [Flexradio] Heil Headset and FLEX-5000

[Drax Felton]

And the second plug is for your Handheld or foot pedal keying switch once you 
have the adapter cord.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Carsten Esch  wrote:

> ... you need the additional Heil AD1-Y8 adapter for the FLEX5000.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Carsten, DL6LAU
> 
> 
> 
> Am 07.12.11 12:17, schrieb Carter Craigie:
>> My Heil headset has two plugs on the end of its cable:
>> 
>> One is a black 1/4" stereo phono plug for the headphones, and I see where to
>> plug that into the PHONES jack on the front of the radio, so no problem
>> there.
>> 
>> The second is a gray 1/8" mono plug for the mike, and I DON'T see where to
>> plug that in.
>> 
>> There is no jack of that size on the front of the '5000, and I need help
>> knowing where and how to plug it into the back of the '5000, as there is no
>> appropriately sized jack on the back (bumpy!) side.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Also, I don't see where or how to plug in my 1/4" mono foot switch.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any help please for these two problems?
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Carter N3AO
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Re: [Flexradio] Heil Headset and FLEX-5000

[Carsten Esch]

... you need the additional Heil AD1-Y8 adapter for the FLEX5000.

Regards,

Carsten, DL6LAU



Am 07.12.11 12:17, schrieb Carter Craigie:

My Heil headset has two plugs on the end of its cable:

One is a black 1/4" stereo phono plug for the headphones, and I see where to
plug that into the PHONES jack on the front of the radio, so no problem
there.

The second is a gray 1/8" mono plug for the mike, and I DON'T see where to
plug that in.

There is no jack of that size on the front of the '5000, and I need help
knowing where and how to plug it into the back of the '5000, as there is no
appropriately sized jack on the back (bumpy!) side.



Also, I don't see where or how to plug in my 1/4" mono foot switch.



Any help please for these two problems?

73,

Carter N3AO

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[Flexradio] Heil Headset and FLEX-5000

[Carter Craigie]

My Heil headset has two plugs on the end of its cable:

One is a black 1/4" stereo phono plug for the headphones, and I see where to
plug that into the PHONES jack on the front of the radio, so no problem
there.

The second is a gray 1/8" mono plug for the mike, and I DON'T see where to
plug that in. 

There is no jack of that size on the front of the '5000, and I need help
knowing where and how to plug it into the back of the '5000, as there is no
appropriately sized jack on the back (bumpy!) side.

 

Also, I don't see where or how to plug in my 1/4" mono foot switch.

 

Any help please for these two problems?

73,

Carter N3AO

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