Re: [Flexradio] Transverter

[John Ferrell]

I like my Flex500A but this is one of the areas that is especially 
disappointing.  There are no real benefits when using the transverter. 
You cannot even tune NOAA weather.  Bandwidth controls are ineffective.  
If you are happy just being a a user all is well. If you are an 
experimenter hoping for a tunable IF as you work your way up, it is not 
in this box.  Drop back to SoftRock and restart.
If you are a contester the tools provided in the Flex still look great 
to me.


On 12/17/2015 11:14 AM, n...@hotmail.com wrote:


I just got suckered into irresistible click bait. I saw an ad for something 
called transverter store.  Their prices for 144 and 430 MHz transverters seem 
almost irresistible. Wondering if these are any good. Always looking for a new 
way to use my flex-5000. Says it will cover the whole 2m band if your radio 
will do 28-32 MHz. Not sure what it takes to get my flex outside standard 10m 
band limits. Wondering what those weak signal types think.


Jeff n9iz
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter Store

[Molnar, George J]

Agree with Ged, the Transverter Store products not "bad" units, but are 
not as good as they could be. I bought one to get my feet wet using a 
transverter on my 6500. After alignment, it performed reasonably well, 
but had quite a lot of "birdies" in the received signal.


Quickly went to an Elecraft on 432 with much better results. Liked it so 
much, I am now building a 144XV.


If someone would like an assembled 432 Transverter Store unit, make me 
an offer!


73,

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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter

[Koos Du Plessis]

I'll try again

Hi Jeff,

I've been successfully running my 5000 with an ME2T-Pro 2m transverter on EME 
for the past 2 years.

If you ever need any advice or information on how to set this up and use a 
transverter on your 5000, you are welcome to give me a shout.

Fantastic RX performance on 2M with all the Flex operating, filtering and 
tuning advantages.

73 de Koos
ZS6BFD
Johannesburg SA

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> On 17 Dec 2015, at 18:14,   wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I just got suckered into irresistible click bait. I saw an ad for something 
> called transverter store.  Their prices for 144 and 430 MHz transverters seem 
> almost irresistible. Wondering if these are any good. Always looking for a 
> new way to use my flex-5000. Says it will cover the whole 2m band if your 
> radio will do 28-32 MHz. Not sure what it takes to get my flex outside 
> standard 10m band limits. Wondering what those weak signal types think. 
> 
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter

[Koos Du Plessis]

Hi 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Dec 2015, at 18:14,   wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I just got suckered into irresistible click bait. I saw an ad for something 
> called transverter store.  Their prices for 144 and 430 MHz transverters seem 
> almost irresistible. Wondering if these are any good. Always looking for a 
> new way to use my flex-5000. Says it will cover the whole 2m band if your 
> radio will do 28-32 MHz. Not sure what it takes to get my flex outside 
> standard 10m band limits. Wondering what those weak signal types think. 
> 
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter

[Gedas]

Might be ok for SSB/CW work but I do not see an TCXO or oven option, etc 
so I would be fearful of trying one on 2m or 432 for any digital work 
where drift will kill you.


Gedas, W8BYA

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On 12/17/2015 11:14 AM, n...@hotmail.com wrote:


I just got suckered into irresistible click bait. I saw an ad for something 
called transverter store.  Their prices for 144 and 430 MHz transverters seem 
almost irresistible. Wondering if these are any good. Always looking for a new 
way to use my flex-5000. Says it will cover the whole 2m band if your radio 
will do 28-32 MHz. Not sure what it takes to get my flex outside standard 10m 
band limits. Wondering what those weak signal types think.


Jeff n9iz
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[Flexradio] Transverter

[n9iz]

I just got suckered into irresistible click bait. I saw an ad for something 
called transverter store.  Their prices for 144 and 430 MHz transverters seem 
almost irresistible. Wondering if these are any good. Always looking for a new 
way to use my flex-5000. Says it will cover the whole 2m band if your radio 
will do 28-32 MHz. Not sure what it takes to get my flex outside standard 10m 
band limits. Wondering what those weak signal types think. 


Jeff n9iz 
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter For for 6300

[Richard Lawn]

I've been reading this thread with interest as I'm trying to make up my
mind between the DEMI and Elecraft. They both seem to have good specs and
reports, but does the Elecraft supply power and sequencing for an external
preamp?

Rick, W2JAZ
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter for Flex 6300

[Samuel Strongin]

Not sure what DEMI unit you have but all 7 of mine are fully adjustable on 
input and output . Sam kf4yox

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> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Hulen Smith  wrote:
> 
> I have both. Define "much better". They are both good quality. The Elecraft 
> is as expensive and a kit. It has far more possibilities of IF power control 
> from 1mw to 8 watts of drive. Auto band changing if you have a K3. I could go 
> on. The Demi is a good unit but locked in at one drive level unless later 
> modified. Neither receiver is appreciably better than the other. The Demi has 
> a heat sink but it should cause it has 60 watts output. The Elecraft has 20 
> watts and choice of oven temp osc. Mine is as stable if not more than my 
> Demi. I dismiss the notion that an oven temp Elecraft drifts. I have two of 
> both and each fulfill their purpose beautifully. 
> 
> Hulen Smith
> K5HCS
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Samuel Strongin  wrote:
>> 
>> There is no comparison in performance between DEMI And  Elacraft , the DeMI 
>> is much better , 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Tom Warren  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don’t forget the Elecraft line of transverters. They have a little lower 
>>> pwr output but just fine for running solid state amps. I’ve had good 
>>> experience with them and run a
>>> kw amp on 2M. They’re also good on FM if that’s you’re cup of tea. 
>>> 
>>> If you plan on getting involved in weak signal digital work, be sure the 
>>> transverter you decide on has good freq. stability…..both the DEMI and 
>>> Elecraft XVTR’s qualify in that regard.
>>> 
>>> Good luck on your decision.
>>> 73, Tom
>>> W4TMW
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Bill and Sue wrote:
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good Transverter for the Flex 6300??
> thanks
> Bill
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter for Flex 6300

[Hulen Smith]

I have both. Define "much better". They are both good quality. The Elecraft is 
as expensive and a kit. It has far more possibilities of IF power control from 
1mw to 8 watts of drive. Auto band changing if you have a K3. I could go on. 
The Demi is a good unit but locked in at one drive level unless later modified. 
Neither receiver is appreciably better than the other. The Demi has a heat sink 
but it should cause it has 60 watts output. The Elecraft has 20 watts and 
choice of oven temp osc. Mine is as stable if not more than my Demi. I dismiss 
the notion that an oven temp Elecraft drifts. I have two of both and each 
fulfill their purpose beautifully. 

Hulen Smith
K5HCS

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> On Jul 30, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Samuel Strongin  wrote:
> 
> There is no comparison in performance between DEMI And  Elacraft , the DeMI 
> is much better , 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Tom Warren  wrote:
>> 
>> Don’t forget the Elecraft line of transverters. They have a little lower pwr 
>> output but just fine for running solid state amps. I’ve had good experience 
>> with them and run a
>> kw amp on 2M. They’re also good on FM if that’s you’re cup of tea. 
>> 
>> If you plan on getting involved in weak signal digital work, be sure the 
>> transverter you decide on has good freq. stability…..both the DEMI and 
>> Elecraft XVTR’s qualify in that regard.
>> 
>> Good luck on your decision.
>> 73, Tom
>> W4TMW
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
 On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Bill and Sue wrote:
 
 Can anyone recommend a good Transverter for the Flex 6300??
 thanks
 Bill
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter for Flex 6300

[Michael Walker]

Thanks

I have an XV144 that I got at a very good used price.  I don't care about
the power consumption and I can oven the crystal if required.

Mike va3mw

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Tom Warren  wrote:

> > The original question was kind of open ended itself……IIRC there was no
> band specified or what the XVTR was to be used for. If it is to be used on
> the lower VHF bands for casual QSO’s and some weak signal and digital work,
> I still say the Elecraft should be considered. However, if the you plan to
> use the higher UHF bands and for serious weak signal operation then by all
> means I would go for something different, especially for 432 and above.
> >
> >   The DEMI unit’s have always had an excellent reputation, I’ve met
> and talked to Steve and have built and currently use his equipment with
> good success. As I mentioned in a prior message, I also use Elecraft XVTR’s
> and for my purposes, I don’t have any problems.
> >
> > 73
> > Tom
> > W4TMW
> ~~
>
>
> > On Aug 1, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Bill Tynan 
> wrote:
> >
> > Mike:
> >
> > I don't know much about the Elacaraft transverters, but I have had
> experience with DEMI units. I have both their 222 and 1296 units in
> operation and 2304, 3456 and 10 GHz in a box ready to go up on the mast. I
> did have the 2304 and 3456 units up on the tower in separate boxes but now
> I'm ready to put the box up with all three, 2304, 3456 and 10 GHz.
> >
> > I've used the 222 unit quite a bit but I am just beginning to use the
> 1296 unit. I only made a couple QSOs with it, but it works. It puts out 50
> W. The 222 MHz unit can put out 25 W but I have it down to 10 W to drive a
> brick amp.
> >
> > I have been told that the Elacraft units run fairly hot and I can tell
> you from receiving stations that have them that they drift. The DEMI units
> are solid as a rock.
> >
> > DEMI transverters can be had completed or in kit form. Mine were
> completed.
> >
> > So, that's what I know. I hope this helps.
> >
> > Hope to work you on the bands someday.
> >
> > 73,
> > Bill Tynan, W3XO/5 EM00kd
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of
> Mike va3mw
> > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:57 PM
> > To: Samuel Strongin 
> > Cc: Tom Warren ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Transverter for Flex 6300
> >
> > In what way?
> >
> > Va3mw
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Samuel Strongin 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> There is no comparison in performance between DEMI And  Elacraft , the
> >> DeMI is much better ,
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Tom Warren  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Don’t forget the Elecraft line of transverters. They have a little
> >>> lower pwr output but just fine for running solid state amps. I’ve had
> good experience with them and run a kw amp on 2M. They’re also good on FM
> if that’s you’re cup of tea.
> >>>
> >>> If you plan on getting involved in weak signal digital work, be sure
> the transverter you decide on has good freq. stability…..both the DEMI and
> Elecraft XVTR’s qualify in that regard.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck on your decision.
> >>> 73, Tom
> >>> W4TMW
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Bill and Sue wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can anyone recommend a good Transverter for the Flex 6300??
> >>>>> thanks
> >>>>> Bill
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter for Flex 6300

[Tom Warren]

> The original question was kind of open ended itself……IIRC there was no band 
> specified or what the XVTR was to be used for. If it is to be used on the 
> lower VHF bands for casual QSO’s and some weak signal and digital work, I 
> still say the Elecraft should be considered. However, if the you plan to use 
> the higher UHF bands and for serious weak signal operation then by all means 
> I would go for something different, especially for 432 and above. 
> 
>   The DEMI unit’s have always had an excellent reputation, I’ve met and 
> talked to Steve and have built and currently use his equipment with good 
> success. As I mentioned in a prior message, I also use Elecraft XVTR’s and 
> for my purposes, I don’t have any problems. 
> 
> 73
> Tom
> W4TMW
~~


> On Aug 1, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Bill Tynan  wrote:
> 
> Mike:
> 
> I don't know much about the Elacaraft transverters, but I have had experience 
> with DEMI units. I have both their 222 and 1296 units in operation and 2304, 
> 3456 and 10 GHz in a box ready to go up on the mast. I did have the 2304 and 
> 3456 units up on the tower in separate boxes but now I'm ready to put the box 
> up with all three, 2304, 3456 and 10 GHz.
> 
> I've used the 222 unit quite a bit but I am just beginning to use the 1296 
> unit. I only made a couple QSOs with it, but it works. It puts out 50 W. The 
> 222 MHz unit can put out 25 W but I have it down to 10 W to drive a brick amp.
> 
> I have been told that the Elacraft units run fairly hot and I can tell you 
> from receiving stations that have them that they drift. The DEMI units are 
> solid as a rock.
> 
> DEMI transverters can be had completed or in kit form. Mine were completed. 
> 
> So, that's what I know. I hope this helps.
> 
> Hope to work you on the bands someday.
> 
> 73,
> Bill Tynan, W3XO/5 EM00kd 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike 
> va3mw
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:57 PM
> To: Samuel Strongin 
> Cc: Tom Warren ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Transverter for Flex 6300
> 
> In what way?
> 
> Va3mw
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Samuel Strongin  wrote:
>> 
>> There is no comparison in performance between DEMI And  Elacraft , the 
>> DeMI is much better ,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Tom Warren  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don’t forget the Elecraft line of transverters. They have a little 
>>> lower pwr output but just fine for running solid state amps. I’ve had good 
>>> experience with them and run a kw amp on 2M. They’re also good on FM if 
>>> that’s you’re cup of tea.
>>> 
>>> If you plan on getting involved in weak signal digital work, be sure the 
>>> transverter you decide on has good freq. stability…..both the DEMI and 
>>> Elecraft XVTR’s qualify in that regard.
>>> 
>>> Good luck on your decision.
>>> 73, Tom
>>> W4TMW
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Bill and Sue wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can anyone recommend a good Transverter for the Flex 6300??
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> Bill
>>>>> ___
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter for Flex 6300

[Bill Tynan]

Mike:

I don't know much about the Elacaraft transverters, but I have had experience 
with DEMI units. I have both their 222 and 1296 units in operation and 2304, 
3456 and 10 GHz in a box ready to go up on the mast. I did have the 2304 and 
3456 units up on the tower in separate boxes but now I'm ready to put the box 
up with all three, 2304, 3456 and 10 GHz.

I've used the 222 unit quite a bit but I am just beginning to use the 1296 
unit. I only made a couple QSOs with it, but it works. It puts out 50 W. The 
222 MHz unit can put out 25 W but I have it down to 10 W to drive a brick amp.

I have been told that the Elacraft units run fairly hot and I can tell you from 
receiving stations that have them that they drift. The DEMI units are solid as 
a rock.

DEMI transverters can be had completed or in kit form. Mine were completed. 

So, that's what I know. I hope this helps.

Hope to work you on the bands someday.

73,
Bill Tynan, W3XO/5 EM00kd 


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From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike 
va3mw
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:57 PM
To: Samuel Strongin 
Cc: Tom Warren ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Transverter for Flex 6300

In what way?

Va3mw



> On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Samuel Strongin  wrote:
> 
> There is no comparison in performance between DEMI And  Elacraft , the 
> DeMI is much better ,
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Tom Warren  wrote:
>> 
>> Don’t forget the Elecraft line of transverters. They have a little 
>> lower pwr output but just fine for running solid state amps. I’ve had good 
>> experience with them and run a kw amp on 2M. They’re also good on FM if 
>> that’s you’re cup of tea.
>> 
>> If you plan on getting involved in weak signal digital work, be sure the 
>> transverter you decide on has good freq. stability…..both the DEMI and 
>> Elecraft XVTR’s qualify in that regard.
>> 
>> Good luck on your decision.
>> 73, Tom
>> W4TMW
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Bill and Sue wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone recommend a good Transverter for the Flex 6300??
>>>> thanks
>>>> Bill
>>>> ___
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter for Flex 6300

[Mike va3mw]

In what way?

Va3mw



> On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Samuel Strongin  wrote:
> 
> There is no comparison in performance between DEMI And  Elacraft , the DeMI 
> is much better , 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Tom Warren  wrote:
>> 
>> Don’t forget the Elecraft line of transverters. They have a little lower pwr 
>> output but just fine for running solid state amps. I’ve had good experience 
>> with them and run a
>> kw amp on 2M. They’re also good on FM if that’s you’re cup of tea. 
>> 
>> If you plan on getting involved in weak signal digital work, be sure the 
>> transverter you decide on has good freq. stability…..both the DEMI and 
>> Elecraft XVTR’s qualify in that regard.
>> 
>> Good luck on your decision.
>> 73, Tom
>> W4TMW
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
 On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Bill and Sue wrote:
 
 Can anyone recommend a good Transverter for the Flex 6300??
 thanks
 Bill
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter for Flex 6300

[Samuel Strongin]

There is no comparison in performance between DEMI And  Elacraft , the DeMI is 
much better , 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Tom Warren  wrote:
> 
>  Don’t forget the Elecraft line of transverters. They have a little lower pwr 
> output but just fine for running solid state amps. I’ve had good experience 
> with them and run a
> kw amp on 2M. They’re also good on FM if that’s you’re cup of tea. 
> 
>  If you plan on getting involved in weak signal digital work, be sure the 
> transverter you decide on has good freq. stability…..both the DEMI and 
> Elecraft XVTR’s qualify in that regard.
> 
> Good luck on your decision.
> 73, Tom
> W4TMW
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Bill and Sue wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can anyone recommend a good Transverter for the Flex 6300??
>>> thanks
>>> Bill
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[Flexradio] Transverter for Flex 6300

[Tom Warren]

  Don’t forget the Elecraft line of transverters. They have a little lower pwr 
output but just fine for running solid state amps. I’ve had good experience 
with them and run a
kw amp on 2M. They’re also good on FM if that’s you’re cup of tea. 

  If you plan on getting involved in weak signal digital work, be sure the 
transverter you decide on has good freq. stability…..both the DEMI and Elecraft 
XVTR’s qualify in that regard.

Good luck on your decision.
73, Tom
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> 
>> Can anyone recommend a good Transverter for the Flex 6300??
>> thanks
>> Bill
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter Operation with Flex 5000

[Jim Jerzycke]

Hi, Bill

My Flex 5000 Operators Manual says the XVTX/COM ports outputs up to 
+5dBm, and is adjustable.


73, Jim  KQ6EA

On 10/18/2013 04:28 AM, Bill Tynan wrote:

I have be trying interface transverters with my Flex 5K. I started with a DEMI 
222 MHz 25 Watt output unit which is set up for 28 MHz from the radio and no 
more than 10 milliwatts drive.

I received a beacon located approximately 70 miles from me very well. However, 
when I went to check the power output on transmit, I got none.

Further checks with an HP 432A power meter showed only - 2 dBm output from the 
5K's transverter port. This is, apparently not enough to drive the DEMI 
transverter. This was with the Drive level on the console set at Max and the 
power on the transverter screen set at 100.

Does anyone know the spec power output for the transverter port? I cannot find 
it in the manual and previous perusal of the Knowledge Center for transverter 
interfacing information has revealed little.

Thanks very much for any help.

73,

Bill Tynan, W3XO
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[Flexradio] Transverter Operation with Flex 5000

[Bill Tynan]

I have be trying interface transverters with my Flex 5K. I started with a DEMI 
222 MHz 25 Watt output unit which is set up for 28 MHz from the radio and no 
more than 10 milliwatts drive.

I received a beacon located approximately 70 miles from me very well. However, 
when I went to check the power output on transmit, I got none.

Further checks with an HP 432A power meter showed only - 2 dBm output from the 
5K's transverter port. This is, apparently not enough to drive the DEMI 
transverter. This was with the Drive level on the console set at Max and the 
power on the transverter screen set at 100.

Does anyone know the spec power output for the transverter port? I cannot find 
it in the manual and previous perusal of the Knowledge Center for transverter 
interfacing information has revealed little.   

Thanks very much for any help.

73,

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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter

[Brian Lloyd]

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:33 AM, N1naz  wrote:

> Hello
> I was wondering if anyone has added a Transverter (HF-VHF/UHF) to their
> Flex 3000, is this even possible? I have my doubts because of no IF out
> but, If so, any recommendations for, and info on setting this up, what have
> you used?
>

You can but if the transverter doesn't include TX/RX switching, you will
need to use an external coax relay to switch. You may also need a
high-power pad to reduce the output to a safe level for the transverter
input. When turned down to less than 10W output the output of the 3000 is
very clean due to running class-A at those power levels.

As far as I am concerned, the only two things the 3000 lacks that keep it
from being the perfect radio are separate RX input and external reference
input.

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[Flexradio] Transverter

[N1naz]

Hello
I was wondering if anyone has added a Transverter (HF-VHF/UHF) to their Flex 
3000, is this even possible? I have my doubts because of no IF out but, If so, 
any recommendations for, and info on setting this up, what have you used?

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[Flexradio] Transverter setup for Flex5k

[andrew]

Has anyone used a Elecraft 2m transverter on the Flex 5000, and if so were 
there any issues?
73,
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter on RX2

[Brian Lloyd]

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Craig Gagner  wrote:

> Really, Nobody has any info on this ??
>

What is to ask? Connect the output of your receiving converter (or the RX
output of your transverter) to RX2-In and it will work just fine. VFO-B
will tune RX2 like it normally does. Neither VFO-B nor RX2 care about the
source of signal at the RX2 input.

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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter on RX2

[Craig Gagner]

Really, Nobody has any info on this ?? 

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
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Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 12:18 PM
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Subject: [Flexradio] Transverter on RX2

Will a external transverter work on VFO B with RX2 ? 

 

73

 

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[Flexradio] Transverter on RX2

[Craig Gagner]

Will a external transverter work on VFO B with RX2 ? 

 

73

 

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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter Power Drive

[Bill Bordy, NJ1H]

From Page 7, PDF page 19, of the Flex-5000 manual:

XVTX/COM outputs a 28 MHz IF signal, adjustable up to +5 dBm to drive 
external transverters


Calculate or use one of the many Internet conversion charts.

Per http://www.minicircuits.com/pages/pdfs/dg03-110.pdf

This is 3.2 mW maximum. That is rounded to the nearest .1 mW.

73,
Bill
NJ1H


On 9/24/2012 8:03 AM, Craig Gagner wrote:

Ok I have read everything I could on setting up an external transverter. I
cant find what the power output is on the XVTR / Com port ??  I will be
using a pair of MMT Transverters that require 1mW to 750 mW for a max output
of 10 watts. Will the 5000 put out that low a power on the XVTR / Com ??

  


Thanks

  


Craig

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[Flexradio] Transverter

[Craig Gagner]

Ok I have read everything I could on setting up an external transverter. I
cant find what the power output is on the XVTR / Com port ??  I will be
using a pair of MMT Transverters that require 1mW to 750 mW for a max output
of 10 watts. Will the 5000 put out that low a power on the XVTR / Com ??

 

Thanks

 

Craig

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[Flexradio] Transverter Power Set?

[Clyde Washburn]

Where do you set the power level at the transverter port that will correspond 
to Drive=100, or is the Drive level the only power
adjustment?  I'm getting +14 dBm PEP at Drive=100 2-tone, with better than 
-40dB IM, which is more than I need.

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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter question - flex3000

[Tim Ellison, W4TME]

The FLEX-3000 does not have a dedicated low power 10m output like the 
FLEX-1500 and FLEX-5000, so you will have to take precautions not to 
over drive the transverter.  Otherwise you can use the transverter form 
with the FLEX-3000


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On 9/15/2011 9:24 AM, Michael Ruttenberg wrote:

Did I read somewhere on here once about Elecraft transverters and
compatbility with Flex? And if so, does this work on a Flex3000?

Mike
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[Flexradio] Transverter question - flex3000

[Michael Ruttenberg]

Did I read somewhere on here once about Elecraft transverters and
compatbility with Flex? And if so, does this work on a Flex3000?

Mike
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[Flexradio] TRANSVERTER QUESTION

[Steve Tripp (K1IIG-1)]

With  my 5k, is there a way to use 144mhz as an IF for my transverters. 
Presently I have to manually reduce the power out to do so. I wish to have the 
power selected in the "transverter form" so I can reduce power to drive various 
transverters OR do I have to convert everything to a 28mhz IF? I tried building 
this in the transverter form but it always reverts to power set on 2m. 

Tnx for any info
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter fo Flex 1500 Question

[Brian Lloyd]

Sorry, I must correct the mistake I made in this message yesterday. While
the 1500 will TX outside the ham bands when generating output on the XVTX
port, the 5000 will *NOT*. I was wrong. I hope my error didn't cause anyone
any problems. If so, I apologize profusely.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Brian Lloyd  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Tom Bray  wrote:
>
>> I was told to get the unlock feature when I ordered my 1500.  Has that
>> changed on the last few months?
>>
>
> None of the Flex radios will transmit outside the ham bands using their PA
> output unless unlocked. Both the 5000 and 1500 have low-level (0dBm -- 1mW)
> outputs in addition to their PA outputs. Both the 5000 and 1500 will provide
> general-coverage TX output at 0dBm through the xvtx outputs without being
> unlocked.
>
> That hasn't changed.
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter fo Flex 1500 Question

[Brian Lloyd]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Tom Bray  wrote:

> I was told to get the unlock feature when I ordered my 1500.  Has that
> changed on the last few months?
>

None of the Flex radios will transmit outside the ham bands using their PA
output unless unlocked. Both the 5000 and 1500 have low-level (0dBm -- 1mW)
outputs in addition to their PA outputs. Both the 5000 and 1500 will provide
general-coverage TX output at 0dBm through the xvtx outputs without being
unlocked.

That hasn't changed.

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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter fo Flex 1500 Question

[Tom Bray]

I was told to get the unlock feature when I ordered my 1500.  Has that 
changed on the last few months?


Tom
WB8COX


On 2/8/2011 3:39 PM, Graham Haddock wrote:

Mike:

If you are using the 0 dBm transverter ports, then the FLEX-1500 is already
unlocked.

Unlocking is only a issue if you are trying to use the 5 W RFPA output
port to drive the transverter.

--- Graham / KE9H

==

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Mike Ellerson  wrote:


I am in the process of adding a transverter to my Flex 1500 for 2 meters.
Someone mentioned that I would need an unlock code for PowerSDR from Flex to
use it in the upper ranges of the 2 meter band. I emailed Flex support and
did not hear anything back. Just curious of this is the case.

Thanks
Mike
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter fo Flex 1500 Question

[Graham Haddock]

Mike:

If you are using the 0 dBm transverter ports, then the FLEX-1500 is already
unlocked.

Unlocking is only a issue if you are trying to use the 5 W RFPA output
port to drive the transverter.

--- Graham / KE9H

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> I am in the process of adding a transverter to my Flex 1500 for 2 meters.
> Someone mentioned that I would need an unlock code for PowerSDR from Flex to
> use it in the upper ranges of the 2 meter band. I emailed Flex support and
> did not hear anything back. Just curious of this is the case.
>
> Thanks
> Mike
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[Flexradio] Transverter fo Flex 1500 Question

[Mike Ellerson]

I am in the process of adding a transverter to my Flex 1500 for 2 meters. 
Someone mentioned that I would need an unlock code for PowerSDR from Flex to 
use it in the upper ranges of the 2 meter band. I emailed Flex support and did 
not hear anything back. Just curious of this is the case.

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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter for 1500

[Tom Bray]

You can purchase one as a kit from Elecraft.  The directions are pretty 
straight forward but does require winding one coil and soldering 
carefully.  Elecraft makes 144, 220, and 432MHz units.


Down East Microwave has either a kit version or built up transverters.  
I have no idea what their delivery schedule is.  They have transverters 
that go up to 1296MHz that go directly to 28MHz.


SSB Electronics sells a German transverter made by Kuhne Electronics 
that is very nice but it is priced accordingly.


The DX Zone has this link for transverters:
http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Manufacturers/Transverters/

Tom
WB8COX

On 1/2/2011 8:51 AM, George Osier wrote:

Where would I get a 2 meter transverter for Flex 1500 

73

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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter for 1500

[Samuel Strongin]

Down East Microwave

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 2, 2011, at 9:51 AM, "George Osier"  wrote:

> Where would I get a 2 meter transverter for Flex 1500 
> 
> 73
> 
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[Flexradio] Transverter for 1500

[George Osier]

Where would I get a 2 meter transverter for Flex 1500 

73

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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter form and RX only

[kr7o]

I will put in a request Gerald.  Wasn't sure if it was a bug in my older 
version or something that will already be included in 2.0.  I did some 
searching and didn't find anything about this issue.  Can't keep up with 
the traffic on this reflector, let alone the flex-edge to see what is up 
and coming.  The transverter power level issue is an important one.


Thanks for the QSY tip.  I don't even keep my keyboard on the desk.  It 
leans against the wall and I pick it up if I need it, but good to know.


I haven't implemented DDUTIL yet, but need to.  Guess I should post this 
over on the yahoo group.




At 03:19 PM 6/17/2010 -0500, Gerald Youngblood wrote:

Robert,

This sounds like a feature request but there is a quick way that I QSY 
anywhere.  I type in the frequency like, 50.11 and Enter on the numeric 
keypad and I am there.  That is the fastest way to QSY to any frequency 
the radio covers.


I copied some of the other guys so they would see the request.  We have 
three 10 band VHF through microwave rover guys that work for FlexRadio.


Gerald


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On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:33 PM, <k...@vhfdx.com> 
wrote:
I am using a my F5K as a second receiver for my current IF radio so that I 
can use the panfall display.  The problem is, if I set my transverter 
bands to be RX only, that setting transfers to ALL of the "standard" 
bands.  I have to keep the setup form open to disable TX inhibit and set 
the power level each time after returning from a transverter band.  Is 
there a way around this?


Also, is there a way to assign the 6M band (non-transverter) to the VHF 
band selection "buttons" so that it isn't necessary to click on HF and 
then 6M to switch between VHF bands?  I use this radio 95% for VHF only.


Still at 1.18.3.  Waiting on 2.0 for the next upgrade.



73, Robert KR7O/YB2ARO, DM07ba/OI52ee  (ex.  N7STU)
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter form and RX only

[Gerald Youngblood]

Robert,

This sounds like a feature request but there is a quick way that I QSY
anywhere.  I type in the frequency like, 50.11 and Enter on the numeric
keypad and I am there.  That is the fastest way to QSY to any frequency the
radio covers.

I copied some of the other guys so they would see the request.  We have
three 10 band VHF through microwave rover guys that work for FlexRadio.

Gerald


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On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:33 PM,  wrote:

> I am using a my F5K as a second receiver for my current IF radio so that I
> can use the panfall display.  The problem is, if I set my transverter bands
> to be RX only, that setting transfers to ALL of the "standard" bands.  I
> have to keep the setup form open to disable TX inhibit and set the power
> level each time after returning from a transverter band.  Is there a way
> around this?
>
> Also, is there a way to assign the 6M band (non-transverter) to the VHF
> band selection "buttons" so that it isn't necessary to click on HF and then
> 6M to switch between VHF bands?  I use this radio 95% for VHF only.
>
> Still at 1.18.3.  Waiting on 2.0 for the next upgrade.
>
>
> 73, Robert KR7O/YB2ARO, DM07ba/OI52ee  (ex.  N7STU)
> k...@vhfdx.com
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter form and RX only

[N4PY2]

My N4PY software certainly can.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
121 Little Bell Drive
Hays, NC 28635
www.n4py.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Ray J" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Transverter form and RX only


Wonder if  DDUtil, Data Decoder Utility, AutoDrive feature can be used to 
separately control transverter output power?


w9Ray


Robert delaney wrote:
Robert, I finally got to use my 5K and transverters during the contest 
last weekend and found that I had the same issue. Whenever I would use 
any of the assigned band buttons and then come back to 6 meters my power 
would be left at the setting it was used for on the transverter.  Anoying 
to say the least especially in a contest where calling at flea power was 
just a waste of time.
 Had they been RX only I think that I would have gotten the same result 
as you.  I am also sitll using the old version and from what I have read 
the new version 2 doesn't even allow you to set up a transverter button's 
power level?

(good grief)

 Looks like a bug to me and also sad to say that most on the list really 
aren't using the 5K with xvrters.  I have found it ( the 5000) not very 
user friendly for this purpose and I expect that all of those waiting for 
the 1500 will have lots of bugs to fix that were never addressed on the 
5K.
 I bought the F5K for maximum Flexibilitiy and I don't think I should 
have to have another rig for transverters... What about you?


73, Bob
KA9UVY
- Original Message - From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Transverter form and RX only



Anybody?

At 04:33 PM 6/15/2010 -0700, k...@vhfdx.com wrote:
I am using a my F5K as a second receiver for my current IF radio so 
that I can use the panfall display.  The problem is, if I set my 
transverter bands to be RX only, that setting transfers to ALL of the 
"standard" bands.  I have to keep the setup form open to disable TX 
inhibit and set the power level each time after returning from a 
transverter band.  Is there a way around this?


Also, is there a way to assign the 6M band (non-transverter) to the VHF 
band selection "buttons" so that it isn't necessary to click on HF and 
then 6M to switch between VHF bands?  I use this radio 95% for VHF 
only.


Still at 1.18.3.  Waiting on 2.0 for the next upgrade.



73, Robert KR7O/YB2ARO, DM07ba/OI52ee  (ex.  N7STU)
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter form and RX only

[Ray J]

Wonder if  DDUtil, Data Decoder Utility, AutoDrive feature can be used 
to separately control transverter output power?


w9Ray


Robert delaney wrote:
Robert, I finally got to use my 5K and transverters during the contest 
last weekend and found that I had the same issue. Whenever I would use 
any of the assigned band buttons and then come back to 6 meters my power 
would be left at the setting it was used for on the transverter.  
Anoying to say the least especially in a contest where calling at flea 
power was just a waste of time.
 Had they been RX only I think that I would have gotten the same result 
as you.  I am also sitll using the old version and from what I have read 
the new version 2 doesn't even allow you to set up a transverter 
button's power level?

(good grief)

 Looks like a bug to me and also sad to say that most on the list really 
aren't using the 5K with xvrters.  I have found it ( the 5000) not very 
user friendly for this purpose and I expect that all of those waiting 
for the 1500 will have lots of bugs to fix that were never addressed on 
the 5K.
 I bought the F5K for maximum Flexibilitiy and I don't think I should 
have to have another rig for transverters... What about you?


73, Bob
KA9UVY
- Original Message - From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Transverter form and RX only



Anybody?

At 04:33 PM 6/15/2010 -0700, k...@vhfdx.com wrote:
I am using a my F5K as a second receiver for my current IF radio so 
that I can use the panfall display.  The problem is, if I set my 
transverter bands to be RX only, that setting transfers to ALL of the 
"standard" bands.  I have to keep the setup form open to disable TX 
inhibit and set the power level each time after returning from a 
transverter band.  Is there a way around this?


Also, is there a way to assign the 6M band (non-transverter) to the 
VHF band selection "buttons" so that it isn't necessary to click on 
HF and then 6M to switch between VHF bands?  I use this radio 95% for 
VHF only.


Still at 1.18.3.  Waiting on 2.0 for the next upgrade.



73, Robert KR7O/YB2ARO, DM07ba/OI52ee  (ex.  N7STU)
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter form and RX only

[Robert delaney]

Robert, I finally got to use my 5K and transverters during the contest last 
weekend and found that I had the same issue. Whenever I would use any of the 
assigned band buttons and then come back to 6 meters my power would be left 
at the setting it was used for on the transverter.  Anoying to say the least 
especially in a contest where calling at flea power was just a waste of 
time.
 Had they been RX only I think that I would have gotten the same result as 
you.  I am also sitll using the old version and from what I have read the 
new version 2 doesn't even allow you to set up a transverter button's power 
level?

(good grief)

 Looks like a bug to me and also sad to say that most on the list really 
aren't using the 5K with xvrters.  I have found it ( the 5000) not very user 
friendly for this purpose and I expect that all of those waiting for the 
1500 will have lots of bugs to fix that were never addressed on the 5K.
 I bought the F5K for maximum Flexibilitiy and I don't think I should have 
to have another rig for transverters... What about you?


73, Bob
KA9UVY
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Transverter form and RX only



Anybody?

At 04:33 PM 6/15/2010 -0700, k...@vhfdx.com wrote:
I am using a my F5K as a second receiver for my current IF radio so that I 
can use the panfall display.  The problem is, if I set my transverter 
bands to be RX only, that setting transfers to ALL of the "standard" 
bands.  I have to keep the setup form open to disable TX inhibit and set 
the power level each time after returning from a transverter band.  Is 
there a way around this?


Also, is there a way to assign the 6M band (non-transverter) to the VHF 
band selection "buttons" so that it isn't necessary to click on HF and 
then 6M to switch between VHF bands?  I use this radio 95% for VHF only.


Still at 1.18.3.  Waiting on 2.0 for the next upgrade.



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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter form and RX only

[kr7o]

Anybody?

At 04:33 PM 6/15/2010 -0700, k...@vhfdx.com wrote:
I am using a my F5K as a second receiver for my current IF radio so that I 
can use the panfall display.  The problem is, if I set my transverter 
bands to be RX only, that setting transfers to ALL of the "standard" 
bands.  I have to keep the setup form open to disable TX inhibit and set 
the power level each time after returning from a transverter band.  Is 
there a way around this?


Also, is there a way to assign the 6M band (non-transverter) to the VHF 
band selection "buttons" so that it isn't necessary to click on HF and 
then 6M to switch between VHF bands?  I use this radio 95% for VHF only.


Still at 1.18.3.  Waiting on 2.0 for the next upgrade.



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[Flexradio] Transverter form and RX only

[kr7o]

I am using a my F5K as a second receiver for my current IF radio so that I 
can use the panfall display.  The problem is, if I set my transverter bands 
to be RX only, that setting transfers to ALL of the "standard" bands.  I 
have to keep the setup form open to disable TX inhibit and set the power 
level each time after returning from a transverter band.  Is there a way 
around this?


Also, is there a way to assign the 6M band (non-transverter) to the VHF 
band selection "buttons" so that it isn't necessary to click on HF and then 
6M to switch between VHF bands?  I use this radio 95% for VHF only.


Still at 1.18.3.  Waiting on 2.0 for the next upgrade.


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[Flexradio] Transverter Output Level Adj

[NJSCAN]

Hopefully someone on this list is running a Transverter with their 5000 and 
Vers 2.0. (I also posted  this in the edge reflector)

Trying to run a Microwave Module 144/28R Xvtr. for this weekends VHF contest.  
According to the manual (for 1.18) the Xvtr out can be adjusted up to +5 dbm.

I'm unable to find where this adjustment can be made. The Power setting in the 
transverter screen only sets the Tune level to the connsole.

With the Drive set to 100, max output from the transverter is barely -17 dbm, 
not nearly enough to drive the transverter to full output. This tells me there 
has to be some hidden setting that can be increased up to the +5 dbm spec.

Has anyone discovered where this illusive setting might be? Tried FRS Support 
and they have done their best, but I suspect they are also scratching their 
heads.
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter RX Audio bug in 1.18.4?

[Clay W7CE]

Hi Tim,
I let PowerSDR create the new database.  I re-entered all of the user 
settings manually.  I haven't tried the K9DUR utility yet.


73,
Clay  W7CE

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Ellison" 

To: "Clay W7CE" ; 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:42 AM
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Transverter RX Audio bug in 1.18.4?


Did you allow PowerSDR to create a new database for the new version of 
PowerSDR and use the K9DUR utility to replace your user settings?



-Tim


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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Clay W7CE

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:17 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Transverter RX Audio bug in 1.18.4?

I just upgraded from 1.18.3 to 1.18.4 (Firmware 1.3.0.8, Firewire
3.5.0.7171, both unchanged).  If I have a transverter band (VHF0 in this
case) selected and NR selected, and then shut down PowerSDR, there is no RX
audio when I restart PowerSDR.  I must either deselect NR and change bands
to get audio started.  Once audio is working I can reselect NR or switch
back to VHF0 and all is fine.  I checked 1.18.3 and this doesn't happen in
that version.

Anyone else seeing this?

73,
Clay  W7CE


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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter RX Audio bug in 1.18.4?

[Tim Ellison]

Did you allow PowerSDR to create a new database for the new version of PowerSDR 
and use the K9DUR utility to replace your user settings?


-Tim


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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Clay W7CE
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:17 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Transverter RX Audio bug in 1.18.4?

I just upgraded from 1.18.3 to 1.18.4 (Firmware 1.3.0.8, Firewire 
3.5.0.7171, both unchanged).  If I have a transverter band (VHF0 in this 
case) selected and NR selected, and then shut down PowerSDR, there is no RX 
audio when I restart PowerSDR.  I must either deselect NR and change bands 
to get audio started.  Once audio is working I can reselect NR or switch 
back to VHF0 and all is fine.  I checked 1.18.3 and this doesn't happen in 
that version.

Anyone else seeing this?

73,
Clay  W7CE


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[Flexradio] Transverter RX Audio bug in 1.18.4?

[Clay W7CE]

I just upgraded from 1.18.3 to 1.18.4 (Firmware 1.3.0.8, Firewire 
3.5.0.7171, both unchanged).  If I have a transverter band (VHF0 in this 
case) selected and NR selected, and then shut down PowerSDR, there is no RX 
audio when I restart PowerSDR.  I must either deselect NR and change bands 
to get audio started.  Once audio is working I can reselect NR or switch 
back to VHF0 and all is fine.  I checked 1.18.3 and this doesn't happen in 
that version.


Anyone else seeing this?

73,
Clay  W7CE


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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter port questions

[N4PY2]

I run 144 and 432 transverters here.

You get 5 dbm when you set the transverter power output to 100.
5 dbm is 3.2 mW.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
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Hays, NC 28635
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From: "Jordan" 

To: "Flexradio" 
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 4:38 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] Transverter port questions




Can someone confirm the 5dBm RF output level at the dedicated transverter 
port..?


What does 5dBm correspond to in the 0-100 setting in the XVRTs Form 
set-up...?


Is there a more thorough breakdown of the transverter settings, as well as 
the TX control lines for keying a xvrtr or sequencer etc...?


Thanks for your time...73..Jordan VE6ZT


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[Flexradio] Transverter port questions

[Jordan]

Can someone confirm the 5dBm RF output level at the dedicated transverter 
port..?


What does 5dBm correspond to in the 0-100 setting in the XVRTs Form 
set-up...?


Is there a more thorough breakdown of the transverter settings, as well as 
the TX control lines for keying a xvrtr or sequencer etc...?


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[Flexradio] TRANSVERTER & FLEX3000

[Anthony M]

Hi Guys,

Has anyone tried a Transverter with a Flex radio? I am wondering if so, what 
type? How well do they work with powerSDR?
It seems like the ideal solution for me..


73
Anthony
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Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

[Roger Rehr]

Gary et al,

I use 70 microwatts from my flex 5000 [and my FT1000MP and my K3] to  
drive my transverters.  Outputs measured multiple times with a couple  
of HP probes as well as a Boonton...all agree within a few percent.  I  
know this well because I swap the rigs in and out and I always set the  
output to this level so I don't need to readjust all the transverters


For those transverters that have taken more oomph, I use a MAR-x to  
boost the signal.


This was sort of 'midrange' output for the 1000, which was the index  
rig here and so determined the 'standard' level.


This is not the max that the 5000 will put out.  But the points I am  
making are:
[1] you don't need a lot of power out [use a MAR-x if its too low for  
your xvtrs]

[2] the flex is not alone in terms of the level of its power out
[3] 0.5 watts out is in my [limited] experience unusual for a  
transverter port on a modern rig.


I'd suggest measuring what you actually get out of the flex with a  
good hp or boonton meter.


I can't give more details at present as I am separated from my notes  
and equipment at present due to work demands.


73,

Roger Rehr
W3SZ


On May 4, 2009, at 8:58 AM, Tim Ellison wrote:

The XVTX output on the FLEX-5000 is rated to a max of 0 dBm (1.0 Mw)  
which could explain the low RF output from the transverter.


I am by no means the transverter expert.  Others on this list may  
have more practical real world experience than I.  Or, drop Dudley a  
line (sup...@flex-radio.com) and see what he has to say about it.


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree

Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:42 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

The book says .5 watts max.

KB8RQ, Gary
24X13 element horizontal
24X9 element vertical
http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
kb...@spasalon.com
kb...@yahoo.com


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ellison 
To: "kb...@spasalon.com" 
Cc: "flexradio@flex-radio.biz" 
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:38:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question


What RF drive level is the transverter expecting?



-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:35 AM
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

Tim
I download the new version 1.18.0.  The latest firewire_driver and
also firmware 1.3.0.0.  My LT 2 S MK transverter is set up to run
split.  I have used it for years for receive only and works fine.   
Now
I want to use it to transmit also to use for my main system.  I do  
not

have RX only checked or the PTT checked.  When I check the Split RF
box in XVTR Setup.
The Panadaptor drops 10 DB.  The SDR radio and the transverter keys  
up

when I click tune.  If I turn the SDR radio drive to 100 %.  I get .2
watts out of the transverter.  That is not normal.  Now if I put a 3
DB pad on the HF port and set the radio to 1 watt.  The transverter
will put out full power.  The transverter has a pot to control the
input of the RF.  I have to turn it so I don't over drive the
transverter.  This is the same transverter that Dave, W5UN also uses.
I use to transmit with it using the SDR-1000 and it worked fine then.
Any help would be appreciated.

KB8RQ, Gary
24X13 element horizontal
24X9 element vertical
http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
kb...@spasalon.com
kb...@yahoo.com


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ellison 
To: "kb...@spasalon.com" , Flex Radio

Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:03:39 -0400
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question


The output from the transverter port is very low 1.0 mW.

Also make sure that PowerSDR isn't configured for RX only (or PTT
disabled).



-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:24 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question


Tim I have used the SDR-5000 only for receive until today.  I also
wanted to use it for transmit.  I show no rf coming out of the RVXR
port.  It may be because when I set the transverter up in XVTR for
Split RF.  The Panadapter drops from -130 to -140.  It should do
nothing.  Need to get this working before Dayton Ham Convention if
we can.  I just download the new 1.18. and it does the same thing.

KB8RQ, Gary
24X13 element horizontal
24X9 element vertical
http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
kb...@spasalon.com
kb...@yahoo.com


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ellison 
To: W5UN , "flexradio@flex-radio.biz"

Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:56:54 -0400
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question



What is the version of PowerSDR both of you are using?

Also, the first rule of PowerSDR 1.x troubleshootin

Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

[Gary Crabtree]

Mike you hit the nail on the head.  I did have the lines switched.  Put
them like there are suppose to be and everything works normal now. 
Thanks
everybody for the help.

KB8RQ, Gary
24X13 element horizontal
24X9 element vertical
http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
kb...@spasalon.com
kb...@yahoo.com


-Original Message-
From: "Mike - KM0T" 
To: 
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:16:15 -0500
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] transverter question

> Gary, have you measured the output of the transverter ports with a dBM
> meter?  I was getting around 8 dbM it seemed when I measured mine on
> XVTX/COM on split or com.  I would test it again, but my Flex-5000 is
> out
> for service down at flex, so I can't test it right now.
> 
> If you can get a meter directly on that port, then you will know for
> sure if
> its getting power out.
> 
> You might want to try an older version of the PowerSDR.  Maybe around
> SVN
> 2075 or Ver 1.10.  I think that's when I was using it a year ago august
> when
> I used it drive my LT6S 6M and DB6NT 222MHz split transverters. 
> Perhaps the
> recent PowerSDR is broke
> 
> I know its obvious, and Im not trying to be a smarty here, but I have
> mixed
> both ports up before...   XVTX/COM - connects to the drive input of the
> transverter.  XVRX connects to the RX output on the transverter. 
> 
> 73 and GL
> 
> Mike - KM0T
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:35 AM
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> 
> Tim
> I download the new version 1.18.0.  The latest firewire_driver and also
> firmware 1.3.0.0.  My LT 2 S MK transverter is set up to run split.  I
> have used it for years for receive only and works fine.  Now I want to
> use
> it to transmit also to use for my main system.  I do not have RX only
> checked or the PTT checked.  When I check the Split RF box in XVTR
> Setup.
> The Panadaptor drops 10 DB.  The SDR radio and the transverter keys up
> when I click tune.  If I turn the SDR radio drive to 100 %.  I get .2
> watts out of the transverter.  That is not normal.  Now if I put a 3 DB
> pad on the HF port and set the radio to 1 watt.  The transverter will
> put
> out full power.  The transverter has a pot to control the input of the
> RF.  I have to turn it so I don't over drive the transverter.  This is
> the
> same transverter that Dave, W5UN also uses.  I use to transmit with it
> using the SDR-1000 and it worked fine then.  Any help would be
> appreciated.
> 
> KB8RQ, Gary
> 24X13 element horizontal
> 24X9 element vertical
> http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
> kb...@spasalon.com
> kb...@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ellison 
> To: "kb...@spasalon.com" , Flex Radio
> 
> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:03:39 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> 
> > The output from the transverter port is very low 1.0 mW.
> > 
> > Also make sure that PowerSDR isn't configured for RX only (or PTT
> > disabled).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Tim
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
> > [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
> > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:24 PM
> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> > 
> > 
> > Tim I have used the SDR-5000 only for receive until today.  I also
> > wanted to use it for transmit.  I show no rf coming out of the RVXR
> > port.  It may be because when I set the transverter up in XVTR for
> > Split RF.  The Panadapter drops from -130 to -140.  It should do
> > nothing.  Need to get this working before Dayton Ham Convention if we
> > can.  I just download the new 1.18. and it does the same thing.
> >   
> > KB8RQ, Gary
> > 24X13 element horizontal
> > 24X9 element vertical
> > http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
> > kb...@spasalon.com
> > kb...@yahoo.com
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Ellison 
> > To: W5UN , "flexradio@flex-radio.biz"
> > 
> > Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:56:54 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> > 
> > >  
> > > What is the version of PowerSDR both of you are using? 
> > > 
> > > Also, the first rule of PowerSDR 1.x troubleshooting is to create a
> > > new database and use the latest release of PowerSDR (nothing from
> the
> > > SVN except maybe the

Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

[Tim Ellison]

The XVTX output on the FLEX-5000 is rated to a max of 0 dBm (1.0 Mw) which 
could explain the low RF output from the transverter. 

I am by no means the transverter expert.  Others on this list may have more 
practical real world experience than I.  Or, drop Dudley a line 
(sup...@flex-radio.com) and see what he has to say about it.

-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:42 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

The book says .5 watts max.

KB8RQ, Gary
24X13 element horizontal
24X9 element vertical
http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
kb...@spasalon.com
kb...@yahoo.com


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ellison 
To: "kb...@spasalon.com" 
Cc: "flexradio@flex-radio.biz" 
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:38:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

> What RF drive level is the transverter expecting? 
> 
> 
> 
> -Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:35 AM
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> 
> Tim
> I download the new version 1.18.0.  The latest firewire_driver and 
> also firmware 1.3.0.0.  My LT 2 S MK transverter is set up to run 
> split.  I have used it for years for receive only and works fine.  Now 
> I want to use it to transmit also to use for my main system.  I do not 
> have RX only checked or the PTT checked.  When I check the Split RF 
> box in XVTR Setup.
> The Panadaptor drops 10 DB.  The SDR radio and the transverter keys up 
> when I click tune.  If I turn the SDR radio drive to 100 %.  I get .2 
> watts out of the transverter.  That is not normal.  Now if I put a 3 
> DB pad on the HF port and set the radio to 1 watt.  The transverter 
> will put out full power.  The transverter has a pot to control the 
> input of the RF.  I have to turn it so I don't over drive the 
> transverter.  This is the same transverter that Dave, W5UN also uses.  
> I use to transmit with it using the SDR-1000 and it worked fine then.  
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> KB8RQ, Gary
> 24X13 element horizontal
> 24X9 element vertical
> http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
> kb...@spasalon.com
> kb...@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ellison 
> To: "kb...@spasalon.com" , Flex Radio 
> 
> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:03:39 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> 
> > The output from the transverter port is very low 1.0 mW.
> > 
> > Also make sure that PowerSDR isn't configured for RX only (or PTT 
> > disabled).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Tim
> > 
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
> > [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
> > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:24 PM
> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> > 
> > 
> > Tim I have used the SDR-5000 only for receive until today.  I also 
> > wanted to use it for transmit.  I show no rf coming out of the RVXR 
> > port.  It may be because when I set the transverter up in XVTR for 
> > Split RF.  The Panadapter drops from -130 to -140.  It should do 
> > nothing.  Need to get this working before Dayton Ham Convention if 
> > we can.  I just download the new 1.18. and it does the same thing.
> >   
> > KB8RQ, Gary
> > 24X13 element horizontal
> > 24X9 element vertical
> > http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
> > kb...@spasalon.com
> > kb...@yahoo.com
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Ellison 
> > To: W5UN , "flexradio@flex-radio.biz"
> > 
> > Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:56:54 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> > 
> > >  
> > > What is the version of PowerSDR both of you are using? 
> > > 
> > > Also, the first rule of PowerSDR 1.x troubleshooting is to create 
> > > a new database and use the latest release of PowerSDR (nothing 
> > > from the SVN except maybe the TRUNK) if something quirky is happening.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Tim
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
> > > [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of W5UN
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:23 PM
> > > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > > Subject: [Flexradio] transverter q

Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

[Gary Crabtree]

The book says .5 watts max.

KB8RQ, Gary
24X13 element horizontal
24X9 element vertical
http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
kb...@spasalon.com
kb...@yahoo.com


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ellison 
To: "kb...@spasalon.com" 
Cc: "flexradio@flex-radio.biz" 
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:38:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

> What RF drive level is the transverter expecting? 
> 
> 
> 
> -Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:35 AM
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> 
> Tim
> I download the new version 1.18.0.  The latest firewire_driver and also
> firmware 1.3.0.0.  My LT 2 S MK transverter is set up to run split.  I
> have used it for years for receive only and works fine.  Now I want to
> use it to transmit also to use for my main system.  I do not have RX
> only checked or the PTT checked.  When I check the Split RF box in XVTR
> Setup.
> The Panadaptor drops 10 DB.  The SDR radio and the transverter keys up
> when I click tune.  If I turn the SDR radio drive to 100 %.  I get .2
> watts out of the transverter.  That is not normal.  Now if I put a 3 DB
> pad on the HF port and set the radio to 1 watt.  The transverter will
> put out full power.  The transverter has a pot to control the input of
> the RF.  I have to turn it so I don't over drive the transverter.  This
> is the same transverter that Dave, W5UN also uses.  I use to transmit
> with it using the SDR-1000 and it worked fine then.  Any help would be
> appreciated.
> 
> KB8RQ, Gary
> 24X13 element horizontal
> 24X9 element vertical
> http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
> kb...@spasalon.com
> kb...@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ellison 
> To: "kb...@spasalon.com" , Flex Radio
> 
> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:03:39 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> 
> > The output from the transverter port is very low 1.0 mW.
> > 
> > Also make sure that PowerSDR isn't configured for RX only (or PTT 
> > disabled).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Tim
> > 
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
> > [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
> > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:24 PM
> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> > 
> > 
> > Tim I have used the SDR-5000 only for receive until today.  I also 
> > wanted to use it for transmit.  I show no rf coming out of the RVXR 
> > port.  It may be because when I set the transverter up in XVTR for 
> > Split RF.  The Panadapter drops from -130 to -140.  It should do 
> > nothing.  Need to get this working before Dayton Ham Convention if we
> > can.  I just download the new 1.18. and it does the same thing.
> >   
> > KB8RQ, Gary
> > 24X13 element horizontal
> > 24X9 element vertical
> > http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
> > kb...@spasalon.com
> > kb...@yahoo.com
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Ellison 
> > To: W5UN , "flexradio@flex-radio.biz"
> > 
> > Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:56:54 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> > 
> > >  
> > > What is the version of PowerSDR both of you are using? 
> > > 
> > > Also, the first rule of PowerSDR 1.x troubleshooting is to create a
> > > new database and use the latest release of PowerSDR (nothing from 
> > > the SVN except maybe the TRUNK) if something quirky is happening.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Tim
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
> > > [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of W5UN
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:23 PM
> > > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > > Subject: [Flexradio] transverter question
> > > 
> > > I am attempting to help KB8RQ get his LT2S transverter working with
> > > Flex-5000. Here is the issue: When he enables Split RX on the XVTR 
> > > setup screen, his panadaptor baseline disappears on PowerSDR and it
> > > stops receiving, even though PowerSDR does not show that it has 
> > > switched to TX mode or MOX. I have all the same settings for my 
> > > system, and this does not occur here. We checked and compared all 
> > > setup settings in PowerSDR, and Gary's appear to be the same as
&

Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

[Tim Ellison]

What RF drive level is the transverter expecting? 



-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:35 AM
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

Tim
I download the new version 1.18.0.  The latest firewire_driver and also 
firmware 1.3.0.0.  My LT 2 S MK transverter is set up to run split.  I have 
used it for years for receive only and works fine.  Now I want to use it to 
transmit also to use for my main system.  I do not have RX only checked or the 
PTT checked.  When I check the Split RF box in XVTR Setup.
The Panadaptor drops 10 DB.  The SDR radio and the transverter keys up when I 
click tune.  If I turn the SDR radio drive to 100 %.  I get .2 watts out of the 
transverter.  That is not normal.  Now if I put a 3 DB pad on the HF port and 
set the radio to 1 watt.  The transverter will put out full power.  The 
transverter has a pot to control the input of the RF.  I have to turn it so I 
don't over drive the transverter.  This is the same transverter that Dave, W5UN 
also uses.  I use to transmit with it using the SDR-1000 and it worked fine 
then.  Any help would be appreciated.

KB8RQ, Gary
24X13 element horizontal
24X9 element vertical
http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
kb...@spasalon.com
kb...@yahoo.com


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ellison 
To: "kb...@spasalon.com" , Flex Radio 

Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:03:39 -0400
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

> The output from the transverter port is very low 1.0 mW.
> 
> Also make sure that PowerSDR isn't configured for RX only (or PTT 
> disabled).
> 
> 
> 
> -Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:24 PM
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> 
> 
> Tim I have used the SDR-5000 only for receive until today.  I also 
> wanted to use it for transmit.  I show no rf coming out of the RVXR 
> port.  It may be because when I set the transverter up in XVTR for 
> Split RF.  The Panadapter drops from -130 to -140.  It should do 
> nothing.  Need to get this working before Dayton Ham Convention if we 
> can.  I just download the new 1.18. and it does the same thing.
>   
> KB8RQ, Gary
> 24X13 element horizontal
> 24X9 element vertical
> http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
> kb...@spasalon.com
> kb...@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ellison 
> To: W5UN , "flexradio@flex-radio.biz"
> 
> Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:56:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> 
> >  
> > What is the version of PowerSDR both of you are using? 
> > 
> > Also, the first rule of PowerSDR 1.x troubleshooting is to create a 
> > new database and use the latest release of PowerSDR (nothing from 
> > the SVN except maybe the TRUNK) if something quirky is happening.
> > 
> > 
> > -Tim
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
> > [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of W5UN
> > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:23 PM
> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: [Flexradio] transverter question
> > 
> > I am attempting to help KB8RQ get his LT2S transverter working with 
> > Flex-5000. Here is the issue: When he enables Split RX on the XVTR 
> > setup screen, his panadaptor baseline disappears on PowerSDR and it 
> > stops receiving, even though PowerSDR does not show that it has 
> > switched to TX mode or MOX. I have all the same settings for my 
> > system, and this does not occur here. We checked and compared all 
> > setup settings in PowerSDR, and Gary's appear to be the same as mine.
> > 
> > Does anyone know what may be causing this? Is there some setting we 
> > are overlooking?
> > 
> > 
> > 73, Dave, W5UN
> > 
> > www.w5un.net
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

[Gary Crabtree]

Tim
I download the new version 1.18.0.  The latest firewire_driver and also
firmware 1.3.0.0.  My LT 2 S MK transverter is set up to run split.  I
have used it for years for receive only and works fine.  Now I want to use
it to transmit also to use for my main system.  I do not have RX only
checked or the PTT checked.  When I check the Split RF box in XVTR Setup.
The Panadaptor drops 10 DB.  The SDR radio and the transverter keys up
when I click tune.  If I turn the SDR radio drive to 100 %.  I get .2
watts out of the transverter.  That is not normal.  Now if I put a 3 DB
pad on the HF port and set the radio to 1 watt.  The transverter will put
out full power.  The transverter has a pot to control the input of the
RF.  I have to turn it so I don't over drive the transverter.  This is the
same transverter that Dave, W5UN also uses.  I use to transmit with it
using the SDR-1000 and it worked fine then.  Any help would be appreciated.

KB8RQ, Gary
24X13 element horizontal
24X9 element vertical
http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/
kb...@spasalon.com
kb...@yahoo.com


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ellison 
To: "kb...@spasalon.com" , Flex Radio

Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:03:39 -0400
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

> The output from the transverter port is very low 1.0 mW.
> 
> Also make sure that PowerSDR isn't configured for RX only (or PTT
> disabled).
> 
> 
> 
> -Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:24 PM
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> 
> 
> Tim I have used the SDR-5000 only for receive until today.  I also
> wanted to use it for transmit.  I show no rf coming out of the RVXR
> port.  It may be because when I set the transverter up in XVTR for
> Split RF.  The Panadapter drops from -130 to -140.  It should do
> nothing.  Need to get this working before Dayton Ham Convention if we
> can.  I just download the new 1.18. and it does the same thing.
>   
> KB8RQ, Gary
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> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ellison 
> To: W5UN , "flexradio@flex-radio.biz"
> 
> Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:56:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question
> 
> >  
> > What is the version of PowerSDR both of you are using? 
> > 
> > Also, the first rule of PowerSDR 1.x troubleshooting is to create a 
> > new database and use the latest release of PowerSDR (nothing from the
> > SVN except maybe the TRUNK) if something quirky is happening.
> > 
> > 
> > -Tim
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
> > [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of W5UN
> > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:23 PM
> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: [Flexradio] transverter question
> > 
> > I am attempting to help KB8RQ get his LT2S transverter working with 
> > Flex-5000. Here is the issue: When he enables Split RX on the XVTR 
> > setup screen, his panadaptor baseline disappears on PowerSDR and it 
> > stops receiving, even though PowerSDR does not show that it has 
> > switched to TX mode or MOX. I have all the same settings for my 
> > system, and this does not occur here. We checked and compared all 
> > setup settings in PowerSDR, and Gary's appear to be the same as mine.
> > 
> > Does anyone know what may be causing this? Is there some setting we 
> > are overlooking?
> > 
> > 
> > 73, Dave, W5UN
> > 
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Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

[Tim Ellison]

The output from the transverter port is very low 1.0 mW.

Also make sure that PowerSDR isn't configured for RX only (or PTT disabled).



-Tim

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Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:24 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question


Tim I have used the SDR-5000 only for receive until today.  I also wanted to 
use it for transmit.  I show no rf coming out of the RVXR port.  It may be 
because when I set the transverter up in XVTR for Split RF.  The Panadapter 
drops from -130 to -140.  It should do nothing.  Need to get this working 
before Dayton Ham Convention if we can.  I just download the new 1.18. and it 
does the same thing.
  
KB8RQ, Gary
24X13 element horizontal
24X9 element vertical
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kb...@spasalon.com
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-Original Message-
From: Tim Ellison 
To: W5UN , "flexradio@flex-radio.biz" 
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:56:54 -0400
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

>  
> What is the version of PowerSDR both of you are using? 
> 
> Also, the first rule of PowerSDR 1.x troubleshooting is to create a 
> new database and use the latest release of PowerSDR (nothing from the 
> SVN except maybe the TRUNK) if something quirky is happening.
> 
> 
> -Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of W5UN
> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:23 PM
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: [Flexradio] transverter question
> 
> I am attempting to help KB8RQ get his LT2S transverter working with 
> Flex-5000. Here is the issue: When he enables Split RX on the XVTR 
> setup screen, his panadaptor baseline disappears on PowerSDR and it 
> stops receiving, even though PowerSDR does not show that it has 
> switched to TX mode or MOX. I have all the same settings for my 
> system, and this does not occur here. We checked and compared all 
> setup settings in PowerSDR, and Gary's appear to be the same as mine.
> 
> Does anyone know what may be causing this? Is there some setting we 
> are overlooking?
> 
> 
> 73, Dave, W5UN
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

[Gary Crabtree]

Tim I have used the SDR-5000 only for receive until today.  I also wanted
to use it for transmit.  I show no rf coming out of the RVXR port.  It may
be because when I set the transverter up in XVTR for Split RF.  The
Panadapter drops from -130 to -140.  It should do nothing.  Need to get
this working before Dayton Ham Convention if we can.  I just download the
new 1.18. and it does the same thing.
  
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-Original Message-
From: Tim Ellison 
To: W5UN , "flexradio@flex-radio.biz" 
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:56:54 -0400
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

>  
> What is the version of PowerSDR both of you are using? 
> 
> Also, the first rule of PowerSDR 1.x troubleshooting is to create a new
> database and use the latest release of PowerSDR (nothing from the SVN
> except maybe the TRUNK) if something quirky is happening.
> 
> 
> -Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of W5UN
> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:23 PM
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: [Flexradio] transverter question
> 
> I am attempting to help KB8RQ get his LT2S transverter working with
> Flex-5000. Here is the issue: When he enables Split RX on the XVTR
> setup screen, his panadaptor baseline disappears on PowerSDR and it
> stops receiving, even though PowerSDR does not show that it has
> switched to TX mode or MOX. I have all the same settings for my system,
> and this does not occur here. We checked and compared all setup
> settings in PowerSDR, and Gary's appear to be the same as mine.
> 
> Does anyone know what may be causing this? Is there some setting we are
> overlooking?
> 
> 
> 73, Dave, W5UN
> 
> www.w5un.net
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Re: [Flexradio] transverter question

[Tim Ellison]

 
What is the version of PowerSDR both of you are using? 

Also, the first rule of PowerSDR 1.x troubleshooting is to create a new 
database and use the latest release of PowerSDR (nothing from the SVN except 
maybe the TRUNK) if something quirky is happening.


-Tim

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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of W5UN
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:23 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] transverter question

I am attempting to help KB8RQ get his LT2S transverter working with Flex-5000. 
Here is the issue: When he enables Split RX on the XVTR setup screen, his 
panadaptor baseline disappears on PowerSDR and it stops receiving, even though 
PowerSDR does not show that it has switched to TX mode or MOX. I have all the 
same settings for my system, and this does not occur here. We checked and 
compared all setup settings in PowerSDR, and Gary's appear to be the same as 
mine.

Does anyone know what may be causing this? Is there some setting we are 
overlooking?


73, Dave, W5UN

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[Flexradio] transverter question

[W5UN]

I am attempting to help KB8RQ get his LT2S transverter working with 
Flex-5000. Here is the issue: When he enables Split RX on the XVTR 
setup screen, his panadaptor baseline disappears on PowerSDR and it 
stops receiving, even though PowerSDR does not show that it has 
switched to TX mode or MOX. I have all the same settings for my 
system, and this does not occur here. We checked and compared all 
setup settings in PowerSDR, and Gary's appear to be the same as mine.


Does anyone know what may be causing this? Is there some setting we 
are overlooking?



73, Dave, W5UN

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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter question

[kb5my]

> Hi Gang:
> This question is for the people using the FLEX-5000A with transverters.
> What are you using to switch the REC and XMT (28 MHz) to each
> transverter? I know Mike is using a multi SMA relay one in and several
> feed outputs.
> What I plan on doing is using separate REC and XMT out of the 5000A to
> some coax switches (2) to the input REC and XMT of the transverters.
> Where can I locate two switches to do the job?

EBay is a good place to look, for lack of anything better - that's where I
got my 8-port SMA switch for less than $50 (and I know that some folks
will cry foul and say I paid too much, but I got exactly what I wanted,
when I wanted it, for a price I could live with - after all, they're about
$1300 or more new these days).  You just need to keep looking until you
find what you want at a price you're willing to live with.

> How are you controlling the switching network?

Working on it (back-of-the-napkin phase):

I plan to adapt most of the elements of K8ISK's "MOASU" transverter
switching unit from "The World Above 50 MHz" column by W3ZZ in the March &
April '08 QSTs.  To that design will be added additional non-RF relays to
accommodate integration with VE2ZAZ's 6-step 'The "At Last!" Radio TR
Sequencer' from March 2007 QST (the MOASU uses a 4-step sequencer).

It will be controlled via the PC parallel port by way of K5FR's "DDUtil"
(Data Decoder Utility) - assuming that I'm interpreting how DDUtil ties in
with PowerSDR correctly.  I'll also add a manual bandswitch for the odd
occasion when I want to try the lashup with something other than the
5000A.

If all goes like I think it should, things should mimic what Mike, KM0T,
has done with his SDR-1000 plus UCB setup.

73,
Dan  KB5MY/6  DM13nc


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[Flexradio] Transverter question

[Edward J White]

Hi Gang:
This question is for the people using the FLEX-5000A with transverters.
What are you using to switch the REC and XMT (28 MHz) to each 
transverter? I know Mike is using a multi SMA relay one in and several 
feed outputs.
What I plan on doing is using separate REC and XMT out of the 5000A to 
some coax switches (2) to the input REC and XMT of the transverters. 
Where can I locate two switches to do the job?
How are you controlling the switching network?
Ed
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter Problems

[Alfred Green]

Bill Bailey wrote:
> After defining a fourth transverter some weird things happen.  Every time I
> click on the fourth transverter button, the third transverter button is
> highlighted in YELLOW.  I expect the fourth transverter button to be
> highlighted in YELLOW instead.  It is unclear if the 4th or the 3rd
> transverter is really selected when trying to select transverter 4.
> 
>  
> 
> I believe this behavior exists in both PowerSDR 1.10.3 AND 1.10.4.
> 
>  
> 
> Has anyone seen this problem?
> 
>  
Now that you mention it, yes I do.
I have been using v1.8.0 with the first 6 transverter slots defined. 
They all work fine, using a K3TUF UCB to drive the external selections. 
When I enabled a 7th button, selecting it always goes to button 1 
instead. Looking at the UCB lights it looks just like my #1 
configuration. The UCB works on all selections for HF, and as a test 
I've set the UCB addresses to match on the transverter setup, so I doubt 
that is the problem.

I just tried this with v1.10.3, and now I can only define two 
transverter slots.

I have playing mostly HF recently, so didn't notice this issue, but it 
looks like I'll have to drop back to 1.8 if I want to go VHF+.

I'll be interested to see what the response may be.

GL & 73,  Alf  NU8I
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[Flexradio] Transverter Problems

[Bill Bailey]

After defining a fourth transverter some weird things happen.  Every time I
click on the fourth transverter button, the third transverter button is
highlighted in YELLOW.  I expect the fourth transverter button to be
highlighted in YELLOW instead.  It is unclear if the 4th or the 3rd
transverter is really selected when trying to select transverter 4.

 

I believe this behavior exists in both PowerSDR 1.10.3 AND 1.10.4.

 

Has anyone seen this problem?

 

Best Regards,

 

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Re: [Flexradio] transverter keying with 5000

[Edwin Marzan]

Hello Ray,
 
If you're using WinXP or higher you should try to go back to an earlier restore 
point. If the restore point works then the hardware should be fine. If not then 
you my have a hardware problem (or firmware). Try that first and then report 
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-0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz> Subject: 
[Flexradio] transverter keying with 5000> > I am running a flex 5000 and was 
using a external > transverter it was working a few weeks ago but this> weekend 
I was not able to get it to key from the 5k> I am using SDR 1.10.3> Ray K5azu> 
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[Flexradio] transverter keying with 5000

[ray may]

   I am running a flex 5000 and was using a external 
transverter it was working a few weeks ago but this
weekend I was not able to get it to key from the 5k
   I am using SDR 1.10.3
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[Flexradio] transverter keying

[ray may]

   I have the 5000a the lattes version not svn need to
know how to key the transverter. none of the 3 key
lines go low on transmit.
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter Keying

[Ken N0GZ]

Hi Roger,

Thanks for the reply.  I am using "Antenna Selection" expert mode and 
have set the "Switch Relay with TR" options for TX2 on all HF bands to 
key my HF linear;  TX3 for 50M to key my 50 MHz linear; and would like 
to use TX1 to key the transverters. My transverter page is set up 
correctly.  There does not seem to be any way to associate the 
transverters specified in expert mode with a particular TX(n) selection. 

I suspect the difference from what you are doing is my use of "expert 
mode".  What mode are you using?

Thanks and 73,

Ken Kaplan
N0GZ




Roger Rehr wrote:
> Ken,
>
> This worked for me just using the AMP RLY TX1/TX2/TX3 ports.  I set up 
> the tranverter page for transverters for 50 MHz thru 24 GHz and it 
> worked on all of those bands.
>
> You do need to make sure you have the "Switch Relay with TR" box for 
> the appropriate relay selected on the ANTENNA menu.
>
> See pages 7 and 34-34 of the Flex-5000 Owner's Manual.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> 73,
>
> W3SZ
> Roger Rehr
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>
>
> Quoting Ken N0GZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Has anybody figured out to to configure the Flex 5000 for keying one or
>> more transverters connected through the VXTX/VXRX connectors?  I have
>> not found anything in the PowerSDR documentation, and tech support has
>> not been able to help so far.  None of the AMP RLY outputs seem to
>> activate (pull down) when a transverter is selected.  I can receive OK
>> through the XVRX port, though.
>>
>> Thanks and 73,
>>
>> Ken
>> N0GZ
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter Keying

[Larry Johnston]

Hi Ken,
I have the same problem. I just replaced the RFIO board in the Flex5000
and I can now see output power from the XVTX/COM port, just on VHF 1
only, nothing from VHF 2. If you find out something, let me know also. I
believe W3SZ got his T/R to work.

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On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 15:18 -0600, Ken N0GZ wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Has anybody figured out to to configure the Flex 5000 for keying one or 
> more transverters connected through the VXTX/VXRX connectors?  I have 
> not found anything in the PowerSDR documentation, and tech support has 
> not been able to help so far.  None of the AMP RLY outputs seem to 
> activate (pull down) when a transverter is selected.  I can receive OK 
> through the XVRX port, though.
> 
> Thanks and 73,
> 
> Ken
> N0GZ
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[Flexradio] Transverter Keying

[Ken N0GZ]

Hi All,

Has anybody figured out to to configure the Flex 5000 for keying one or 
more transverters connected through the VXTX/VXRX connectors?  I have 
not found anything in the PowerSDR documentation, and tech support has 
not been able to help so far.  None of the AMP RLY outputs seem to 
activate (pull down) when a transverter is selected.  I can receive OK 
through the XVRX port, though.

Thanks and 73,

Ken
N0GZ

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Re: [Flexradio] transverter operation question

[Philip M. Lanese]

As the saying goes "Seek (i.e. call or e-mail Eric W.) and ye shall find"


- Original Message -
From: "Lee Mushel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Philip M. Lanese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Roger Rehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter operation question


> And What did Eric Say about the transverter operation?   And my Dentron
> transverter for use on the 500KHz stuff arrived yesterday.   So hopefully
> Gerald will take note that the next generation of radios should cover at
> least DC to infrared.
>
> Lee   K9WRU
> - Original Message -
> From: "Philip M. Lanese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Roger Rehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter operation question
>
>
> > Roger
> >
> > Been there - done that.  E-mail Eric W. directly and get the solution by
> return
> > e-mail.
> >
> > Phil, K3IB
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Roger Rehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:35 PM
> > Subject: [Flexradio] transverter operation question
> >
> >
> > > Hello, All,
> > >
> > > I have been using my SDR-1000 for weak signal VHF-and-up work.
> > >
> > > I want to use it also in the FM Simplex portions of some of the
> > > VHF-and-up bands.  Because of the LO frequencies of my transverters,
> > > this will require that the SDR-1000 operate slightly out of the 28-30
> > > MHz band.
> > >
> > > For example, for 146.58 MHz FM Simplex I will need to operate the
> > > SDR-1000 at 30.58 MHz.
> > >
> > > Will PowerSDR and the SDR1000 allow both transmit and receive on this
> > > frequency as long as I properly fill in the XVTR Setup Form to include
> > > LO offset 116 MHz and Begin Freq 144 and End Freq 148?
> > >
> > > I am asking this question on the list rather than just 'trying it'
> > > because my SDR-1000 and transverters are at a remote site and I may not
> > > be able to get out there for several weeks.  Knowing the answer now
> > > will help my planning, so that I can be more productive when I actually
> > > DO get out to the remote site.
> > >
> > > Also, I will be interested in what the answer is for this question for
> > > the Flex-5000, as that should be arriving soon ;)
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance, and
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > W3SZ
> > > Roger Rehr
> > > http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz
> > > Roger Rehr
> > > W3SZ
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Re: [Flexradio] transverter operation question

[stoskopf]

> For hams building their own equipment, there's no real requirement to
> prevent out of band transmissions by automatic means.

Different post

> Interestingly, hams just have to use good engineering practice, and
> aren't required to demonstrate compliance, so, while it's nice to
> have test equipment with traceable calibration, it's not legally
> required.  You can't be careless and cavalier, so if you want to try
> and skate close to the edge, a note to Riley Hollingsworth to explore
> the enforcement standards for "good engineering practice" might be useful.

Please, NO!  We've already gone the route of blocking of cell phone
frequencies on scanners:  a change from 'you can listen to anything, just
can't tell anyone';  blocking 10M on linears for fear of CB use; the RIAA
wanting to ban sales of A/D converters, FCC conferences on SDR-lucklily
defended by Bob and Flex.  Our nearby town had an open policy on towers
until someone's atty. suggested a clarification of the policy before
putting up a new one:  now the limit is 35 ft.

My second rig was built without help in 1953 on 1X2 wood rails from the
ARRL handbook.  Entire metering available consisted of panel bulbs in
series with the plate circuits and open wire antenna leads, if you don't
count the #2 pencil I drew arcs off with to see if there really was RF
there.  The first was a model A coil and a Lionel train transformer built
from a Tom Swift book, but we won't go there.

This is a case of: "It easier to get forgiveness than permission".  Let's
continue to stay out of trouble and under the radar with present policy.
Or we will swiftly have problems.

N0UU



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Re: [Flexradio] transverter operation question

[Jim Lux]

At 06:52 AM 7/22/2007, Philip M. Lanese wrote:
>Mark,
>
>No, I am NOT using the DEMI transverter and I can not legally provide such
>information.
>
>In fact, I have so highly modified my SDR to be an IF system for my 
>transverters
>ONLY, that it can no longer operate with anything except my home brew
>transverters.
>
>I have designed circuits into my system that restrict out-of-intended-band
>emissions to less than that allowed for "Unlicensed" type equipment (including
>the FM portion of 2M) and I am fortunate to have the equipment and facilities
>here to LEGALLY VERIFY compliance with FCC regulations 24/7.

For hams building their own equipment, there's no real requirement to 
prevent out of band transmissions by automatic means.  The FCC trusts 
licensed hams to only turn the knob where they should. Likewise, 
bona-fide R&D work can radiate incidentally (but you DO have to be 
careful.. no experimenting with 1kW output amplifiers into antennas 
without the appropriate Part 5 license)

The non-trivially-modifiable-hardware/firmware kinds of requirements 
apply to equipment offered for sale.

This puts folks like Flex-radio in the position of providing a means 
to restrict certain kinds of operation (out of band transmit, 
scanning on receive), but there's no reason why someone can't freely 
modify the widget to do this.  In the case of PowerSDR, I presume 
that it would simply require modification of some configuration 
tables (since the band limits are different in various parts of the 
world, they can't be embedded in the "code" which is the same for 
all).  I suggest then, that a bit of tinkering with MS Access would 
reveal all and let you configure the system as needed for your 
particular transverters.

It's a bit trickier for the 5K (given that there's a closed firmware 
component) but I suspect that there are ways to do it. Flex can 
probably supply the needed information if you can show a legitimate 
need.  Or, it might be embedded in PowerSDR.

Interestingly, hams just have to use good engineering practice, and 
aren't required to demonstrate compliance, so, while it's nice to 
have test equipment with traceable calibration, it's not legally 
required.  You can't be careless and cavalier, so if you want to try 
and skate close to the edge, a note to Riley Hollingsworth to explore 
the enforcement standards for "good engineering practice" might be useful.

(But, my cat's whisker and galena crystal didn't indicate any out of 
band emissions.. Why did I receive a citation? )

>This was a concern of mine with my early production 1K because of 
>the EIRP I can
>produce on VHF/UHF/MW.  It is ALSO a major concern of the FCC 
>regarding Software
>Defined radios in general, as has been discussed on this reflector in the past
>few weeks.
>
>Having been in Flex's position in the past, I understand the 
>predicament.  But,
>as the saying goes, if you don't ask

Jim, W6RMK 



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Re: [Flexradio] transverter operation question

[Philip M. Lanese]

Mark,

No, I am NOT using the DEMI transverter and I can not legally provide such
information.

In fact, I have so highly modified my SDR to be an IF system for my transverters
ONLY, that it can no longer operate with anything except my home brew
transverters.

I have designed circuits into my system that restrict out-of-intended-band
emissions to less than that allowed for "Unlicensed" type equipment (including
the FM portion of 2M) and I am fortunate to have the equipment and facilities
here to LEGALLY VERIFY compliance with FCC regulations 24/7.

This was a concern of mine with my early production 1K because of the EIRP I can
produce on VHF/UHF/MW.  It is ALSO a major concern of the FCC regarding Software
Defined radios in general, as has been discussed on this reflector in the past
few weeks.

Having been in Flex's position in the past, I understand the predicament.  But,
as the saying goes, if you don't ask

Phil, K3IB


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Amos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Philip M. Lanese'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] transverter operation question


> Phil,
>
> Are you using a DEMI transverter to work above 146 MHz with the method
> mentioned below?
>
> I've sent Eric a note off-list, but if he isn't able to help, for legal or
> other reasons, can you provide this info?
>
> Mark
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Re: [Flexradio] transverter operation question

[Lee Mushel]

And What did Eric Say about the transverter operation?   And my Dentron
transverter for use on the 500KHz stuff arrived yesterday.   So hopefully
Gerald will take note that the next generation of radios should cover at
least DC to infrared.

Lee   K9WRU
- Original Message -
From: "Philip M. Lanese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Roger Rehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] transverter operation question


> Roger
>
> Been there - done that.  E-mail Eric W. directly and get the solution by
return
> e-mail.
>
> Phil, K3IB
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Roger Rehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:35 PM
> Subject: [Flexradio] transverter operation question
>
>
> > Hello, All,
> >
> > I have been using my SDR-1000 for weak signal VHF-and-up work.
> >
> > I want to use it also in the FM Simplex portions of some of the
> > VHF-and-up bands.  Because of the LO frequencies of my transverters,
> > this will require that the SDR-1000 operate slightly out of the 28-30
> > MHz band.
> >
> > For example, for 146.58 MHz FM Simplex I will need to operate the
> > SDR-1000 at 30.58 MHz.
> >
> > Will PowerSDR and the SDR1000 allow both transmit and receive on this
> > frequency as long as I properly fill in the XVTR Setup Form to include
> > LO offset 116 MHz and Begin Freq 144 and End Freq 148?
> >
> > I am asking this question on the list rather than just 'trying it'
> > because my SDR-1000 and transverters are at a remote site and I may not
> > be able to get out there for several weeks.  Knowing the answer now
> > will help my planning, so that I can be more productive when I actually
> > DO get out to the remote site.
> >
> > Also, I will be interested in what the answer is for this question for
> > the Flex-5000, as that should be arriving soon ;)
> >
> > Thanks in advance, and
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > W3SZ
> > Roger Rehr
> > http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz
> > Roger Rehr
> > W3SZ
> > http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz
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Re: [Flexradio] transverter operation question

[Philip M. Lanese]

Roger

Been there - done that.  E-mail Eric W. directly and get the solution by return
e-mail.

Phil, K3IB

- Original Message -
From: "Roger Rehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:35 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] transverter operation question


> Hello, All,
>
> I have been using my SDR-1000 for weak signal VHF-and-up work.
>
> I want to use it also in the FM Simplex portions of some of the
> VHF-and-up bands.  Because of the LO frequencies of my transverters,
> this will require that the SDR-1000 operate slightly out of the 28-30
> MHz band.
>
> For example, for 146.58 MHz FM Simplex I will need to operate the
> SDR-1000 at 30.58 MHz.
>
> Will PowerSDR and the SDR1000 allow both transmit and receive on this
> frequency as long as I properly fill in the XVTR Setup Form to include
> LO offset 116 MHz and Begin Freq 144 and End Freq 148?
>
> I am asking this question on the list rather than just 'trying it'
> because my SDR-1000 and transverters are at a remote site and I may not
> be able to get out there for several weeks.  Knowing the answer now
> will help my planning, so that I can be more productive when I actually
> DO get out to the remote site.
>
> Also, I will be interested in what the answer is for this question for
> the Flex-5000, as that should be arriving soon ;)
>
> Thanks in advance, and
>
> 73,
>
> W3SZ
> Roger Rehr
> http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz
> Roger Rehr
> W3SZ
> http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz
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[Flexradio] transverter operation question

[Roger Rehr]

Hello, All,

I have been using my SDR-1000 for weak signal VHF-and-up work.

I want to use it also in the FM Simplex portions of some of the 
VHF-and-up bands.  Because of the LO frequencies of my transverters, 
this will require that the SDR-1000 operate slightly out of the 28-30 
MHz band.

For example, for 146.58 MHz FM Simplex I will need to operate the 
SDR-1000 at 30.58 MHz.

Will PowerSDR and the SDR1000 allow both transmit and receive on this 
frequency as long as I properly fill in the XVTR Setup Form to include 
LO offset 116 MHz and Begin Freq 144 and End Freq 148?

I am asking this question on the list rather than just 'trying it' 
because my SDR-1000 and transverters are at a remote site and I may not 
be able to get out there for several weeks.  Knowing the answer now 
will help my planning, so that I can be more productive when I actually 
DO get out to the remote site.

Also, I will be interested in what the answer is for this question for 
the Flex-5000, as that should be arriving soon ;)

Thanks in advance, and

73,

W3SZ
Roger Rehr
http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz
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Re: [Flexradio] Transverter offset

[Lawrence Stoskopf]

Not sure how Ham Radio Deluxe does it, but you just enter the offset for 
whatever frequency you dial to (after setting up the offset bands) and then 
whenever you "tune to that frequency, it applies that offset.  So you can 
use one of the various signal sources to find the error for that band, a 
quick calculation and you plug that offset in.  That automatically takes 
care of whatever error the system has (until you drift!) 

Easier than my remarks.  Should be easy to implement. 


N0UU

[Flexradio] TRANSVERTER LLOCAL OSCILLATOR/SDR1000 CALIBRATION

[Philip M. Lanese]

FWIW, I first calibrate my SDR1000 at 28.150.000 with my HP 8640B locked to my
Ru source.  Then I calibrate the 2 Meter to 28 MHz transverter/SDR1000
combination by injecting a signal at 144,150,000.00 with the 8640B and
re-adjusting the /GENERAL/Calibration/Frequency = 28.150.000, Clock Offset
value, if necessary, to place the signal peak exactly on the center vertical
line using AM or DSB, SPECTRUM display and 100, 50 then 25 Hz band width.

The caveat is that the 116 MHz oscillator I use (6 yr. old prototype) is my own
TCXO design, heavily subsidized by an employer from a former life, and has not
had to be adjusted for the last two years, drifting only +/- 2-3 cycles short
term after warm-up.

This method takes care of Jim's steps 1 and 2 but not 3.

Phil, K3IB