Re: [Flexradio] griffin power mate install
Dale, Exact same. 73, Dudley WA5QPZ Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2015, at 2:57 PM, w...@reagan.com wrote: > > I used a power mate years back on my sdr-1000. Now a 5000a with 2.7.2 is the > install the same as it was with the old version of power sdr? > thanks > dale wt4t > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > To opt out of the Reflector: > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate
Brian, Yes, the fine tuning is done by ear. However, I use the mouse wheel for that. When operating SSB, I can click on a signal, quickly right-click to turn off the crosshairs, and then use the mouse wheel for fine adjustment of the frequency. In CW or digital modes, I expand the Panadapter to 4x magnification (or greater). At that magnification, there is never any need for fine-tuning. I find that the mouse wheel gives the same hand-eye coordination feel as the knob without having to move from the mouse to the PowerMate & back. As for using the knob to move quickly from one part of the band to another as well as for fine tuning, you can always program the push-turn functions of the PowerMate to make large frequency changes. If you REALLY want to use the PowerMate for tuning that is. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate
I think the Griffin is very handy. Use it for tuning sometimes, but it is nice for adjusting the AGC. Easy to program. 73 Wayne K4ELO ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 2:57 PM, John Hansen wrote: > I agree with Ray on this. I bought the Griffin before I bought my > first Flex (largely in anticipation of getting a radio to use with > it). When I finally did get a Flex, I found my whole way of looking > at radio operating changed. With a conventional radio you tune with a > knob in your hand and detect signals solely by ear. With a flex, you > identify signals both with your ear and (even more so) with your eyes. Only one comment on this. Yes you identify the signals by eye but the final tuning is done by ear. Also, when trying to tune spot-on, you will find that from an ergonomics point-of-view, it is easier to rotate your hand for fine control than any other motion. So a knob is well suited for final tuning. Also, from a strictly ergonomic point-of-view, having one control is better than having two. > So the days of continuously tuning up the band to get a feel how many > stations are on are largely gone. Yes, but you assume that because that has changed, the advantage of the knob has changed as well. I find the knob offers a wonderful hand-eye coordination. There is a natural feel for how much you turn the knob and how much the frequency changes. No other control I have tried seems to fit that quite as well. > I tend to click on interesting portions of the spectrum with > my mouse and then then use the wheel on the mouse to tune around. That is certainly what I do too. > If > you use the Griffen, that requires that you move your hand back and > forth between the mouse to the Griffen. It seems more awkward. It is more awkward and I agree with you there as well. But if the knob made it easy to move rapidly from one part of the spectrum to another AND then do the fine tuning when there, that eliminates the need to switch your hand on input devices for tuning. I think everyone who has the Griffin PowerMate has discovered the same thing: the way that it is implemented and interfaced to PowerSDR, it does not work well. I don't use mine for tuning anymore either. OTOH, if it was interfaced directly to PowerSDR such that focus never changed, and if it supported acceleration, i.e. turning it rapidly increased the step size for rapid motion, it would be an outstanding input device for tuning PowerSDR. So, IMHO, the fault is not with the Griffin PowerMate but rather in the way that we are forced to use it currently. > Having said that, it does make a wonderful volume control. In > addition, the pulsing blue is really nice. So if you are getting one > for free or cheap, don't just shelve it, try it in both applications > and see what you think. I think you are right. 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate
I fall into the same class as most. I purchased the PowerMate at the same time I bought my SDR-1000. I set it up, used it for a few days and then stopped using it once I realized that the Flex is really a visually interactive radio and the mouse, with its planer multiple degrees of freedom, is much better suited than a left/right tuning knob. The tuning knob did little to enhance the SDR experience, matter of fact, IMHO, it distracted from the whole experience by having to grab another pointing device to use the radio. I have one positive thing to say. It makes a nice neon blue LED night light as well as a volume control :-) -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of y...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:43 PM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate A friend gave me a Griffin yesterday. I was thinking of adding it to my 5000a setup. Iam happy with the mouse and the way it works for me,Is the griffin worth the effort? Was just wondering what anyone else thought of the power mate and it use with power sdr. thanks dale wt4t ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to telli...@itsco.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate
I agree with Ray on this. I bought the Griffin before I bought my first Flex (largely in anticipation of getting a radio to use with it). When I finally did get a Flex, I found my whole way of looking at radio operating changed. With a conventional radio you tune with a knob in your hand and detect signals solely by ear. With a flex, you identify signals both with your ear and (even more so) with your eyes. So the days of continuously tuning up the band to get a feel how many stations are on are largely gone. You can see that without all the tuning. I tend to click on interesting portions of the spectrum with my mouse and then then use the wheel on the mouse to tune around. If you use the Griffen, that requires that you move your hand back and forth between the mouse to the Griffen. It seems more awkward. Having said that, it does make a wonderful volume control. In addition, the pulsing blue is really nice. So if you are getting one for free or cheap, don't just shelve it, try it in both applications and see what you think. John W2FS On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Ray Andrews, K9DUR wrote: > Dale, > > I bought a Griffin PowerMate with my SDR-1000 in January 2006. I quickly > disconnected it & put it in a drawer. Actually, I have it hooked up now > with its default settings. I feed the FLEX-5000A audio output back into the > PC soundcard. The PowerMate makes a really good volume control -- lousy as > a VFO, but a good volume control. Just my opinion. > > 73, Ray, K9DUR > http://k9dur.info > > > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > Message delivered to j...@coastalchip.com > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate
Dale, I bought a Griffin PowerMate with my SDR-1000 in January 2006. I quickly disconnected it & put it in a drawer. Actually, I have it hooked up now with its default settings. I feed the FLEX-5000A audio output back into the PC soundcard. The PowerMate makes a really good volume control -- lousy as a VFO, but a good volume control. Just my opinion. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate
I used mine for a short period of time on my 3K. I noticed that if you spun the knob too fast, the software would freeze until it caught up. Other than that, it worked ok. I too prefer the mouse. 73, Jim / K4ECP - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:42 PM Subject: [Flexradio] Griffin power mate >A friend gave me a Griffin yesterday. I was thinking of adding it to my >5000a setup. Iam happy with the mouse and the way it works for me,Is the >griffin worth the effort? Was just wondering what anyone else thought of >the power mate and it use with power sdr. > thanks > dale wt4t > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > Message delivered to k4e...@verizon.net > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4278 (20090725) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4278 (20090725) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Griffin Power Mate Latency Issue
The Space Pilot solves this to an extent when using the W2RF console. It keeps focus regardless of what window has focus. But for the programable buttons to work correctly PowerSDR does need to have the focus. But the knob is great. You can tune, pan left/right, zoom in and out and change the filter width...all with the knob. I am selling my Flex5K and have one of these for sale for $225 shipped. They're $350 new. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Mon Aug 25 3:30 , "FireBrick" sent: >Joel >I experience the very same anomaly when using the Griffin >and also with the ShuttlePro > >Very erratic response. and if you move either too fast the panadaptor >freezes till it catches up. >As the 'Focus' problem rears it's head in contest of dxing, >I've 'hoped' for a hardware direct to the flex 5K option. >such as shuttle to the flexwire connector. > >- Original Message - >From: "Joel Harrison" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz> >Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 12:50 AM >Subject: [Flexradio] Griffin Power Mate Latency Issue > > >> Hooked up the Griffin PowerMater tonight so I could have a "fine tune" >> control for my left hand while I'm sending CW with my right hand. >> >> The PowerMate is working OK, but it seems to be experiencing some latency >> issues. I do not have that with my mouse wheel. >> >> The computer is a Dell with an Intel Quad Core processor and the CPU usage >> does not spike up when this happens. CPU usage stays around 12-15%. The >> sensitivity >> slider in the PowerMate configuration window is set to max and the latency >> issue does get worse if I lower the slider sensitivity setting. >> >> If I turn the PowerMate wheel fast it freezes up the display for just a >> bit >> until it "catches up". Again, I don't have this problem with the mouse >> wheel >> and if I turn the mouse wheel fast PowerSDR just keeps on its smooth >> operation. >> >> Is there a hardware setting I'm missing to improve/correct the PowerMate >> condition??? >> >> Any help on the Griffin PowerMate condition is appreciated. >> >> Also, while I have the "floor", thanks to everyone that dropped me a note >> about CW Skimmer. It is working VERY well now on my 5000A! >> >> 73 Joel W5ZN >> ___ >> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >> Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: >> http://www.flex-radio.com/ >> > > >___ >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Griffin Power Mate Latency Issue
Joel I experience the very same anomaly when using the Griffin and also with the ShuttlePro Very erratic response. and if you move either too fast the panadaptor freezes till it catches up. As the 'Focus' problem rears it's head in contest of dxing, I've 'hoped' for a hardware direct to the flex 5K option. such as shuttle to the flexwire connector. - Original Message - From: "Joel Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 12:50 AM Subject: [Flexradio] Griffin Power Mate Latency Issue > Hooked up the Griffin PowerMater tonight so I could have a "fine tune" > control for my left hand while I'm sending CW with my right hand. > > The PowerMate is working OK, but it seems to be experiencing some latency > issues. I do not have that with my mouse wheel. > > The computer is a Dell with an Intel Quad Core processor and the CPU usage > does not spike up when this happens. CPU usage stays around 12-15%. The > sensitivity > slider in the PowerMate configuration window is set to max and the latency > issue does get worse if I lower the slider sensitivity setting. > > If I turn the PowerMate wheel fast it freezes up the display for just a > bit > until it "catches up". Again, I don't have this problem with the mouse > wheel > and if I turn the mouse wheel fast PowerSDR just keeps on its smooth > operation. > > Is there a hardware setting I'm missing to improve/correct the PowerMate > condition??? > > Any help on the Griffin PowerMate condition is appreciated. > > Also, while I have the "floor", thanks to everyone that dropped me a note > about CW Skimmer. It is working VERY well now on my 5000A! > > 73 Joel W5ZN > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Griffin Power Mate
I should have provided more detail in my original post. I found that the manual way of installing the device and its device driver (as per the instructions on the Griffin Technology page) was the only way I could get it to work correctly. One of the "challenges" with the PowerMate is that when it is recognized by Windows, it does not find it as a USB controller; it finds it and installs drivers for it as a Human Interface Device (HID). Then you have to "fool" Windows by force feeding it an INF file that places it in its correct hardware category. Not very pretty, but it works. I agree with Bill. I don't like things that "fix" themselves. But then again, Windowz breaks itself spontaneously too. Now if Griffin Technology would just provide a device driver that would allow you to assign the PowerMate to a specific application rather than associating itself the app that is currently in focus, that would be nice. -Tim --- Tim Ellison ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Integrated Technical Services ( http://www.itsco.com ) -Original Message- From: Bill Guyger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 2:51 PM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Ellison Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Griffen Power Mate I also had issues with this. I reloaded the driver (the current one on the Griffin website) several times and unplugged and reseated the USB connector several times. I was beginning to think in terms of a bad connector when the thing finally started working one way or the other. I hate problems that fix themselves without any clear reason to point to at a later date. Bill >>> "Tim Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/07/06 08:22PM >>> I had the same problem until I followed the driver install procedure to the letter. -Tim --- Integrated Technical Services "You can't close the door when the walls cave in" --Robert Hunter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n5ba Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 9:11 PM To: Flex Subject: [Flexradio] Griffen Power Mate What's the secret to get the Power Mate to come up working every time? I seem to have to disconnect and reconnect a few times for it to be found. Brian N5BA ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com
