Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with 'V' (backwards view) on Mac os X

2005-10-19 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 20 Oct 2005 03:31, Ima Sudonim wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 Oct 2005 01:10, Ima Sudonim wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Someone else had mentioned something similar recently, but
> > > I can't find the post in flightgear-devel.
> > >
> > > I noticed that with latest CVS on mac os x, I can scroll
> > > thru views (forward) with 'v' as many times as I like, but
> > > that 'V' (reverse) only works 1-3 times until I reach the
> > > view that has a name ending in 'w/o yaw'.
> > >
> > > 'V' will no longer work, until I move forward in the views
> > > with 'v' at least once. Then the 'V' cycle works (or fails
> > > to work) as mentioned above.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Ima

> > Have you found this with several different aircraft or have
> > you only tried a single type so far?  If it only happens
> > with a specific aircraft, which one is it?
> >
> > LeeE
>
>
> I was using the default cessna (didn't give --aircraft=
> option) (it's the chase view w/o yaw option, where the problem
> occurs in all instances with reverse view).
>
> DOES happen with default cessna, sopwithCamel, spitfireIIa,
> 747-100, ufo, Citation-II, A380, shuttle (gave a 'failed to
> load aircraft from, falling back to glider.ac' message,
> ornithopter (BTW, the ornithopter is already moving forward
> when fg starts, unlike the other airplane models), bell206
>
> DOESN'T happen with A-10cl (my personal favorite) 8-) or
> A-10fl (there is no chase view w/o yaw option)
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ima

Heh ;)  I don't mind top or bottom replies but sticking them in 
the middle throws me a bit.

Anyway...  I can't find any problems here - cvs a day or two old 
- I tried just calling fgfs with no params, to get the C-172, 
and could scroll backwards and forwards through the views ok.  
Cycled forward to chase w/o yaw, cycled backwards from it - no 
problems.

Then tried both the A-10s, because you mention that they had no 
chase view w/o view and had no problems there either, including 
the chase view w/o yaw.

Do you get a 'Drop View' with the A-10s?  The Drop view should be 
the 'last' view on the A-10s, before you end up back in the 
Cockpit and should come after the chase view w/o yaw.  Do you 
get both the chase view w/o yaw and drop view on the A-10s?

LeeE


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[Flightgear-devel] Problems with 'V' (backwards view) on Mac os X

2005-10-19 Thread Ima Sudonim

On Thursday 20 Oct 2005 01:10, Ima Sudonim wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Someone else had mentioned something similar recently, but I
> can't find the post in flightgear-devel.
>
> I noticed that with latest CVS on mac os x, I can scroll thru
> views (forward) with 'v' as many times as I like, but that 'V'
> (reverse) only works 1-3 times until I reach the view that has
> a name ending in 'w/o yaw'.
>
> 'V' will no longer work, until I move forward in the views
> with 'v' at least once. Then the 'V' cycle works (or fails to
> work) as mentioned above.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ima



I was using the default cessna (didn't give --aircraft= option) (it's  
the chase view w/o yaw option, where the problem occurs in all  
instances with reverse view).


DOES happen with default cessna, sopwithCamel, spitfireIIa, 747-100,  
ufo, Citation-II, A380, shuttle (gave a 'failed to load aircraft  
from, falling back to glider.ac' message, ornithopter (BTW, the  
ornithopter is already moving forward when fg starts, unlike the  
other airplane models), bell206


DOESN'T happen with A-10cl (my personal favorite) 8-) or A-10fl  
(there is no chase view w/o yaw option)


Hope this helps!

Thanks!

Ima


Have you found this with several different aircraft or have you
only tried a single type so far?  If it only happens with a
specific aircraft, which one is it?

LeeE


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with 'V' (backwards view) on Mac os X

2005-10-19 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 20 Oct 2005 01:10, Ima Sudonim wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Someone else had mentioned something similar recently, but I
> can't find the post in flightgear-devel.
>
> I noticed that with latest CVS on mac os x, I can scroll thru
> views (forward) with 'v' as many times as I like, but that 'V'
> (reverse) only works 1-3 times until I reach the view that has
> a name ending in 'w/o yaw'.
>
> 'V' will no longer work, until I move forward in the views
> with 'v' at least once. Then the 'V' cycle works (or fails to
> work) as mentioned above.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ima

Have you found this with several different aircraft or have you 
only tried a single type so far?  If it only happens with a 
specific aircraft, which one is it?

LeeE


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[Flightgear-devel] Problems with 'V' (backwards view) on Mac os X

2005-10-19 Thread Ima Sudonim

Hi,

Someone else had mentioned something similar recently, but I can't  
find the post in flightgear-devel.


I noticed that with latest CVS on mac os x, I can scroll thru views  
(forward) with 'v' as many times as I like, but that 'V' (reverse)  
only works 1-3 times until I reach the view that has a name ending in  
'w/o yaw'.


'V' will no longer work, until I move forward in the views with 'v'  
at least once. Then the 'V' cycle works (or fails to work) as  
mentioned above.


Thanks!

Ima

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[Flightgear-devel] PLIB version for building from CVS

2005-10-19 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
Hi All,

Which version of PLib is required to build the current
FG CVS?

I'm getting a build error (output below), which I
assume is due to an incorrect PLIB version. I'm using 
v1.8.4

Thanks

-Stuart

g++  -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT  -L/usr/local/lib -o
js_demo.exe  js_demo.o -lplibjs  -
lwinmm -lplibul
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.3/../../../libplibjs.a(jsWindows.o):
In func
tion `_ZN10jsJoystick4openEv':
/home/Stuart/plib-1.8.4/src/js/jsWindows.cxx:107:
undefined reference to `_joyGe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.3/../../../libplibjs.a(jsWindows.o):
In func
tion `_ZN10jsJoystick7rawReadEPiPf':
/home/Stuart/plib-1.8.4/src/js/jsWindows.cxx:191:
undefined reference to `_joyGe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [js_demo.exe] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/Stuart/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Input'





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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Major slowdown since yesterday

2005-10-19 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Durk,

Durk Talsma wrote:

> Please let me know if the traffic-manager is enabled, and then I hope I can 
> give you some more assistance in getting your system up to speed again.

Thanks for your kind and detailed reply. I'll keep you posted as soon
as I had the chance to check for the mentioned criteria.

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-19 Thread Georg Vollnhals

David Luff schrieb:

 


Cygwin doesn't have HUGE, so change HUGE to HUGE_VAL and -HUGE to -HUGE_VAL
and I suspect this should compile.

 


Changing HUGE to HUGE_VAL in simple.cxx solved the problem!
Thank you, thank you :-) Have just made a testflight with the new FG 
version!



I guess that we could do something in compiler.h along the lines of

#ifdef __CYGWIN__
 #define HUGE HUGE_VAL
 #define -HUGE -HUGE_VAL
#endif

 

I tried this *before* I did the "huge-change". I put it between two 
other #ifdef .. (Microsoft and Borland, as far as I remember) but it 
caused some other strange errors. May be it was my fault to put it the 
wrong place or the wrong file (there are two compiler.h files in my 
Cygwin folder, I changed the one in the SimGear-0.3 .. folder.




BTW, Georg, CVS SimGear should compile on Cygwin 3.4.4 now, and CVS
FlightGear will probably compile on it if you add

#ifdef HAVE_CONFIG_H
#  include 
#endif

as the first include for every source (cxx or cpp) file where you get the
strange error message you reported a while ago.

Then send the output of "cvs diff -u" from the FlightGear directory to
Erik, and the 3.4.4 problem should be sorted :-)
 

Ok, this has to be done when I have a little more time than this 
evening, but I will go for it within the next days and report so that 
you have some feedback.

Thank you once again, David, your help saved the day for me!
Regards
Georg


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[Flightgear-devel] Re: Major slowdown since yesterday

2005-10-19 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Wednesday 19 October 2005 19:39:
> It does seem that there was another update yesterday, related to a fix in 
> ssg. 
> (See the email conversation between Matthias Frolich and Melchior Franz, 
> yesterday evening).  While I have not tested this, it might be possible that 
> this is causing some slowdown, 

No, that's not possible.

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] TU114-set.xml help/spelling in comments

2005-10-19 Thread Lee Elliott
On Wednesday 19 Oct 2005 02:13, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:
> Index: ../data/Aircraft/TU-114/TU-114-set.xml
> ==
>= RCS file:
> /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/TU-114/TU-114-set.xml,v
> retrieving revision 1.1
> diff -u -r1.1 TU-114-set.xml
> --- ../data/Aircraft/TU-114/TU-114-set.xml5 Oct 2005 15:59:17
> - 1.1 +++ ../data/Aircraft/TU-114/TU-114-set.xml  19 Oct
> 2005 01:11:34 - @@ -9,6 +9,16 @@
>
>  
>
> +   
> + 
> +   K
> +   Toggle trajectory markers
> + 
> + 
> +L/U
> +Update Tower/Drop View position
> + 
> +   
>  
> +
>
>  
>
> @@ -181,7 +191,7 @@
>
>  
> 
> -U
> +L
>  Update Tower View position
>  
>nasal

Hello Vassilii,

there are some fundamental problems with the TU-114 props and 
engines and it's really only in cvs so that other people can 
have a look into it.

This doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't (try) to fly it or fix 
bits that you notice are wrong but you should bear in mind that 
in it's present state it's incomplete and badly flawed.

The problems with the props & engines concern controlling the 
prop pitch and I don't have a clear/good enough understanding of 
how it should work to fix it.

LeeE


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Major slowdown since yesterday

2005-10-19 Thread Durk Talsma
On Wednesday 19 October 2005 14:54, Martin Spott wrote:
> Hello,
> I experience a significant slowdown in the frame rate since my last
> build yesterday. As the only significant change in CVS is the AI
> traffic on EHAM I assume the slowdown is related to that.
> Do I have the ability to disable this feature by command line ?
> I already apply "--prop:/sim/ai-traffic/enabled=false" and
> "--disable-ai-models" but this does not appear to affect the recent
> changes.
>
> Not that I dislike the new feature, it's quite an interesting add-on.
> It's just that the PeeCee I run test on is incapable to keep up with
> the work load.
>

Hi Martin,

Have you checked whether in preferences.xml you have the following


 true
  

  
   true
   
   
  

if so, you should set traffic-manager/enabled to false. 

Next, you could also check using the property browser if any aircraft are 
listed in /ai/models. 

However, I do have to add that, while I cannot rule out a performance decrease 
from the new traffic features, I would consider it unlikely, for a number of 
reasons, that this is what's troubling you. First, and formost, the new 
taxiway follow code only works at EHAM, but there is no traffic yet for this 
airport (unless the KLM schedules are uncommented data/Traffic/fgtraffic.xml, 
(you might want to check). Secondly, even when you are flying within a 
relatively small distance of EHAM, currently set at 150 km.  Thirdly, the 
traffic manager is still disabled by default, so the new code shouldn't run, 
unless you specifically activate it. Fourth and final, the new code doesn't 
run on a frame to frame basis, but mainly only when a new taxiroute is 
requested. So while I can imagine that this would result in an occasional 
pause on slower machines, it should not result in  a continuous performance 
decrease. 

Unless all three conditions above are satisfied, the new code doesn't run.

It does seem that there was another update yesterday, related to a fix in ssg. 
(See the email conversation between Matthias Frolich and Melchior Franz, 
yesterday evening).  While I have not tested this, it might be possible that 
this is causing some slowdown, because this patch seems to run on a frame to 
frame basis.  

Please let me know if the traffic-manager is enabled, and then I hope I can 
give you some more assistance in getting your system up to speed again.

Cheers,
Durk

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: fgfs on AMD64 status?

2005-10-19 Thread Alex Perry
> I'm secure enough now that I'm shopping to build a new machine.  I'm looking
> at AMD64 motherboards and one of the newer nvidia cards.  And what I'm
> wondering is whether any fgfs developers can speak to building and running
> fgfs, on linux, on an AMD64 box, and/or with the nv 6600's/6800's etc.
> I've seen some threads that people are running it on AMD64 OK; but I'm
> wondering if there are any suggestions, recommendations, or warnings that
> are worth hearing before I start shelling out the big $ (e.g. mobos you're
> happy with or had nothing but trouble with).  I wanna get back to this stuff.

FGFS runs fine under AMD64 in both 32 bit and 64 bit architectures
and has done so for 18 months.  Debian i386 Testing and AMD64 Unstable,
as they were called at the time (AMD64 Testing didn't exist initially).
USB joysticks are unaffected by transitioning between 32 bit and 64 bit.

You seem to be going for desktop chassis; in which case the motherboard
chipset is a minor issue (compared to the nightmare that laptops can be)
and not one I can help with.  All my non-server AMD64 systems are laptops.

Your only real remaining issue is whether your video chipset will run
accelerated with the 32 bit and/or the 64 bit kernel.  If you use a
card that's old enough to have open source drivers, this is trivial.

Both NV and ATI provide 32 and 64 bit versions of their binary drivers,
supporting both X.org and xfree86, so there is no availability problem.
People have had various levels of luck with installation gremlins though.
Therefore, I suggest checking the mailing list for your specific chipset.
Once that is taken care of, I'd just install and start flying around.

Hope that helps.

PS.  If you're going to be dual boot for both 32 and 64 bit architectures,
don't forget to have the disk space containing FGFS's data (and scenery)
be shared.  You don't want to install (eg) Alaska on one filesystem,
then later reboot, then realize you have to do that installation again.


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[Flightgear-devel] Major slowdown since yesterday

2005-10-19 Thread Martin Spott
Hello,
I experience a significant slowdown in the frame rate since my last
build yesterday. As the only significant change in CVS is the AI
traffic on EHAM I assume the slowdown is related to that.
Do I have the ability to disable this feature by command line ?
I already apply "--prop:/sim/ai-traffic/enabled=false" and
"--disable-ai-models" but this does not appear to affect the recent
changes.

Not that I dislike the new feature, it's quite an interesting add-on.
It's just that the PeeCee I run test on is incapable to keep up with
the work load.

Thanks,
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[Flightgear-devel] Re: contacting tower

2005-10-19 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frank Olaf -- Wednesday 19 October 2005 10:55:
> I don't think that is the problem.  Pressing 'v' works several times, 
> but 'V' works only once.  The entries in keyboard.xml are similar..

Which interface have you compiled fgfs with? (non-free) glut, freeglut,
or SDL (./configure --enable-sdl)?

Which version thereof?

Whatever interface, I'd try a newer version, maybe even CVS/HEAD.

Also, if you are using glut, try SDL instead, or the other way around.

Is the fgfs source really CVS/HEAD (as after doing a  $ cvs up -AC)?


This looks too strange to suspect a FlightGear bug, but you can also
try to apply the attached patch to src/Input/input.cxx. It reverses
the only relevant change in keyboard handling since a while. It's not
acceptable for cvs, but it would help to falsify it as possible cause.

m.
? SConscript
Index: input.cxx
===
RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Input/input.cxx,v
retrieving revision 1.67
diff -u -p -r1.67 input.cxx
--- input.cxx	30 Jun 2005 19:26:29 -	1.67
+++ input.cxx	19 Oct 2005 11:27:23 -
@@ -243,15 +243,18 @@ FGInput::doKey (int k, int modifiers, in
   button &b = _key_bindings[k];
 
 // Key pressed.
-  if (!(modifiers & KEYMOD_RELEASED)) {
+  if (modifiers&KEYMOD_RELEASED == 0) {
 SG_LOG( SG_INPUT, SG_DEBUG, "User pressed key " << k
 << " with modifiers " << modifiers );
 if (!b.last_state || b.is_repeatable) {
-  const binding_list_t &bindings = _find_key_bindings(k, modifiers);
-
-  for (unsigned int i = 0; i < bindings.size(); i++)
-bindings[i]->fire();
-  b.last_state = 1;
+  const binding_list_t &bindings =
+_find_key_bindings(k, modifiers);
+  int max = bindings.size();
+  if (max > 0) {
+for (int i = 0; i < max; i++)
+  bindings[i]->fire();
+return;
+  }
 }
   }
 // Key released.
@@ -259,10 +262,14 @@ FGInput::doKey (int k, int modifiers, in
 SG_LOG(SG_INPUT, SG_DEBUG, "User released key " << k
<< " with modifiers " << modifiers);
 if (b.last_state) {
-  const binding_list_t &bindings = _find_key_bindings(k, modifiers);
-  for (unsigned int i = 0; i < bindings.size(); i++)
-bindings[i]->fire();
-  b.last_state = 0;
+  const binding_list_t &bindings =
+_find_key_bindings(k, modifiers);
+  int max = bindings.size();
+  if (max > 0) {
+for (int i = 0; i < max; i++)
+  bindings[i]->fire();
+return;
+  }
 }
   }
 }
@@ -388,7 +395,6 @@ FGInput::_init_keyboard ()
 
 _key_bindings[index].bindings->clear();
 _key_bindings[index].is_repeatable = keys[i]->getBoolValue("repeatable");
-_key_bindings[index].last_state = 0;
 _read_bindings(keys[i], _key_bindings[index].bindings, KEYMOD_NONE);
   }
 }
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-19 Thread Georg Vollnhals

Thank you David,
now off to work, I'll try it this evening!
Regards
Georg

David Luff schrieb:

 



BTW, Georg, CVS SimGear should compile on Cygwin 3.4.4 now, and CVS
FlightGear will probably compile on it if you add

..
Then send the output of "cvs diff -u" from the FlightGear directory to
Erik, and the 3.4.4 problem should be sorted :-)


 




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-19 Thread David Luff


On 19/10/2005 at 12:05 Georg Vollnhals wrote:

>Hi Erik/Durk?
>Since your update of simple.cxx/hxx on the 18.10.05 the newest CVS 
>version does not compile anymore :-(
>
>Error:
>simple.cxx: In member function `int 
>FGGroundNetwork::findNearestNode(double,
>   double)':
>simple.cxx:1331: error: `HUGE' undeclared (first use this function)
>simple.cxx:1331: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only 
>once for
>   each function it appears in.)
>make[2]: *** [simple.o] Fehler 1
>make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1
>make: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1
>
>Any solution?

Cygwin doesn't have HUGE, so change HUGE to HUGE_VAL and -HUGE to -HUGE_VAL
and I suspect this should compile.

I guess that we could do something in compiler.h along the lines of

#ifdef __CYGWIN__
  #define HUGE HUGE_VAL
  #define -HUGE -HUGE_VAL
#endif

or something like that.  Erik?  There is already an instance of this
problem in TerraGear.

BTW, Georg, CVS SimGear should compile on Cygwin 3.4.4 now, and CVS
FlightGear will probably compile on it if you add

#ifdef HAVE_CONFIG_H
#  include 
#endif

as the first include for every source (cxx or cpp) file where you get the
strange error message you reported a while ago.

Then send the output of "cvs diff -u" from the FlightGear directory to
Erik, and the 3.4.4 problem should be sorted :-)

Cheers - Dave


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[Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-19 Thread Georg Vollnhals

Hi Erik/Durk?
Since your update of simple.cxx/hxx on the 18.10.05 the newest CVS 
version does not compile anymore :-(


Error:
simple.cxx: In member function `int 
FGGroundNetwork::findNearestNode(double,

  double)':
simple.cxx:1331: error: `HUGE' undeclared (first use this function)
simple.cxx:1331: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only 
once for

  each function it appears in.)
make[2]: *** [simple.o] Fehler 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1
make: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1

Any solution?
Thank you
Georg

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] contacting tower

2005-10-19 Thread Frank Olaf

Frederic Bouvier wrote:


Quoting Frank Olaf :

 


I just tried the latest compiled snapshot at
ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/ and everything work
normally, so its only my own compilation that suffers from the problem
:(  They seemd to rely on different pthreadVC-nd.dlls.  It has allways
work for me with pthreadVC-nd.dll, but the snapshot required
pthreadVC2-nd.dll, could this be the problem?
   



I doubt it is related. I just migrate my own projects to a more recent pthread
snapshot that induced the change in library name.

The problem with non-repeating keys is certainly a problem with not current
keyboard.xml. There was a change by Melchior after I reported a bug and the
repeat behavior must be explicit now. Perhaps Melchior can comment as my memory
is a bit short on this topic.

-Fred
 

I don't think that is the problem.  Pressing 'v' works several times, 
but 'V' works only once.  The entries in keyboard.xml are similar..


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RE: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs on AMD64 status? Mobo suggestions/warnings?

2005-10-19 Thread Richard Bytheway


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> Subject: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs on AMD64 status? Mobo
> suggestions/warnings?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've been out of the fgfs development loop for an annoyingly 
> long time.  At
> first, I had to adjust to a big drop in free time after 
> (thankfully) finally
> getting employed.  Then I had a video card failure that 
> forced me back to an
> old card I had lying around which had no 3D acceleration.  
> And then, at the
> end of July, problems with my motherboard started, and 
> worsened through the
> month until it became basically unusable by September.
> 
> I'm secure enough now that I'm shopping to build a new 
> machine.  I'm looking
> at AMD64 motherboards and one of the newer nvidia cards.  And what I'm
> wondering is whether any fgfs developers can speak to 
> building and running
> fgfs, on linux, on an AMD64 box, and/or with the nv 6600's/6800's etc.
> I've seen some threads that people are running it on AMD64 OK; but I'm
> wondering if there are any suggestions, recommendations, or 
> warnings that
> are worth hearing before I start shelling out the big $ (e.g. 
> mobos you're
> happy with or had nothing but trouble with).  I wanna get 
> back to this stuff.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -c
> 

I build and run FG on an AMD64 3000, on a Gigabyte motherboard (GA-K8VNXP 
maybe?) in W2K and Linux (FC3, 32 bit). 

HD is on the SATA port which works seamlessly.

Video is an NVidia 5200 (I think) and that is no problem in either OS.

I am using the onboard sound, which I now cannot get working with OpenAL under 
Windows, although it has worked in the past. It works fine in Linux though, and 
I am moving that way, so I have stopped worrying about that :-)

Saitek USB joystick works fine in both OSs (once I had it plugged in while 
kudzu ran) but the axis numbers are different in Linux and Windows. I will post 
a patch to the joystick file at some point to fix that one properly.

Welcome back.

Richard


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs on AMD64 status? Mobo suggestions/warnings?

2005-10-19 Thread George Patterson
On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 01:04 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've been out of the fgfs development loop for an annoyingly long time.  At
> first, I had to adjust to a big drop in free time after (thankfully) finally
> getting employed.  Then I had a video card failure that forced me back to an
> old card I had lying around which had no 3D acceleration.  And then, at the
> end of July, problems with my motherboard started, and worsened through the
> month until it became basically unusable by September.
> 
> I'm secure enough now that I'm shopping to build a new machine.  I'm looking
> at AMD64 motherboards and one of the newer nvidia cards.  And what I'm
> wondering is whether any fgfs developers can speak to building and running
> fgfs, on linux, on an AMD64 box, and/or with the nv 6600's/6800's etc.
> I've seen some threads that people are running it on AMD64 OK; but I'm
> wondering if there are any suggestions, recommendations, or warnings that
> are worth hearing before I start shelling out the big $ (e.g. mobos you're
> happy with or had nothing but trouble with).  I wanna get back to this stuff.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -c

I am running a AMD64 based system

Specifications:

Gigabyte GA-K8NS Utlra Sock 939 nForce 3 Dual Bios
Corsair DDR Ram 1 gig (matched pair)
SATA Hard drive
NV 6600GT AGP 128MB (You might want to consider PCI-E these days
though.)

That's the guts of it...

Montherboard has dual network interfaces on board. (More about that one
later)

You didn't say what OS you are considering but It works a treat With
Ubuntu Hoary (5.04) and Windows2000 (not interested in XP at this stage)

Problems:
After installing windows, the Gigabit network interface driver wasn't
happy with it. plugged the network cable into the other socket and
downloaded the up to date driver. Problem solved.

On Linux, I had a sound problem with Warty (4.10) with the sound not
intialising. apt-get update & apt-get upgrade fixed that one. Also
install the offical nvidia driver (7667 or higher) as the the version
that is packaged for Hoary doesn't work with the AGP version of the NV
6600GT.

I'd give the above combination the thumbs up. It is stable and I'm
getting about 66fps at 800x600 when sitting on runway 28R at KSFO. The
frame rate doesn't change when enlarging to full screen.

One thing I didn't notice that --enabled-specular-highlights does kill
the frame rate so i disabled that but the new 3D clouds doesn't present
a problem.


Overall, I'm happy with the purchase :-)

George


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] contacting tower

2005-10-19 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Frank Olaf :

> I just tried the latest compiled snapshot at
> ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/ and everything work
> normally, so its only my own compilation that suffers from the problem
> :(  They seemd to rely on different pthreadVC-nd.dlls.  It has allways
> work for me with pthreadVC-nd.dll, but the snapshot required
> pthreadVC2-nd.dll, could this be the problem?

I doubt it is related. I just migrate my own projects to a more recent pthread
snapshot that induced the change in library name.

The problem with non-repeating keys is certainly a problem with not current
keyboard.xml. There was a change by Melchior after I reported a bug and the
repeat behavior must be explicit now. Perhaps Melchior can comment as my memory
is a bit short on this topic.

-Fred

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs on AMD64 status? Mobo suggestions/warnings?

2005-10-19 Thread Martin Spott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm secure enough now that I'm shopping to build a new machine.  I'm looking
> at AMD64 motherboards and one of the newer nvidia cards.

You could aim at being a pioneer and go for an ATI X800 type board.
I've already had FlightGear displayed on such a board using the
OpenSource r300 driver and it somehow works - but not stable at that
time.
In any case I have the impression that the newer ATI boards are
definitely a good choice, they have closed source drivers in case you
don't want to fiddle with DRI/Mesa/XOrg sources.

Cheers,
Martin.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] contacting tower

2005-10-19 Thread Frank Olaf
I just tried the latest compiled snapshot at 
ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/ and everything work 
normally, so its only my own compilation that suffers from the problem 
:(  They seemd to rely on different pthreadVC-nd.dlls.  It has allways 
work for me with pthreadVC-nd.dll, but the snapshot required 
pthreadVC2-nd.dll, could this be the problem?


Frank Olaf wrote:


Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:


On October 18, 2005 05:51 am, Frank Olaf wrote:
 

> >>Another point is that I am not always able to contact the tower 
when

> >>pressing the ' key, even though I am on the correct radiofrequency.
> >
  



Er... try flying out of the ATC's control area before you attempt to 
contact the tower.


Ampere
 

It's not the tower that is the problem, it is that the key-press is 
not recognised more than once, several keys and key combinations are 
recognised only once in CVS versions I compile.





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