[Flightgear-devel] Possible Scenery bug
I noticed as some other have also that flying from KSFO to KSFO via vor VTU results in a crash. After Pigeon looking at it it he noticed that setting --vor=VTU at the command line will result in the following error message ebing repeated serveral hundred times. This applies for KSFO, fgfs loads fine at KOAK. radius = 0 ! Finally, yasim find a soltion: ... radius = 0 ! Trim Results: Altitude AGL: 15.00 wdot: nan Tolerance: 1e-03 Failed Pitch Angle: 0.03 qdot: nan Tolerance: 1e-04 Failed Trim Statistics: Total Iterations: 61 Sub-iterations: wdot: 0 average: 0.00 successful: 0 stability: 99.47 qdot: 0 average: 0.00 successful: 0 stability: 100.00 Run Count: 36702 altitude = 0 sea level radius = 5.30322e-316 latitude = 2.31779e-310 longitude= 5.30323e-316 altitude = 7.83713e-317 sea level radius = 2.31779e-310 But then shows the following warnings (also repeats): altitude = 2.23531e-317 sea level radius = nan latitude = 2.31779e-310 longitude= 0 altitude = 7.83713e-317 sea level radius = 2.31779e-310 latitude = 2.31779e-310 longitude= 6.95336e-310 altitude = 7.83713e-317 The menu bar does load but are slow to respond. The terrain outside is doesn't show up. I spoke to Pigeon on irc who commented that it could be a scenery issue problem near that Vor. Regards George --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mirror for CD-image ?
On Saturday 29 April 2006 22:20, Rob Oates wrote: > On 4/29/06, Robicd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd suggest you use a BitTorrent tracker too. You will only need to make > > a seeder host stay online for the time you like and download/upload > > bandwidth will be shared among clients. Big files like .iso images are > > well distributed inside such p2p networks. > > > > Roberto > > Bittorrent is pretty good distribution method, for instance I downloaded > the iso from the bittorrent tracker, and it only took 2:01:30 seconds to > download 532 MB ...and that was with just 2 seeds. > > -Rob Two good seeds. :) BitTorrent works really well if there are enough people who will carry on seeding after they have finished downloading. In small releases like ours people tend to grab and then disconnect which doesn't help much. Paul --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mirror for CD-image ?
On 4/29/06, Robicd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd suggest you use a BitTorrent tracker too. You will only need to makea seeder host stay online for the time you like and download/upload bandwidth will be shared among clients. Big files like .iso images arewell distributed inside such p2p networks.Roberto Bittorrent is pretty good distribution method, for instance I downloaded the iso from the bittorrent tracker, and it only took 2:01:30 seconds to download 532 MB ...and that was with just 2 seeds. -Rob
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mirror for CD-image ?
Martin Spott wrote: Hello, Pigeon is preparing to have a "LinuxTag edition" of his FGLive FlightGear live CD. As we don't have the monetary ressources to produce a noticeable amount of CD's to give away, we intend to place the ISO image on as many servers as possible and would like to put striking announcements on the FlightGear and Custom-Scenery web pages - you see, we are trying to fill the gap that is left open my the missing FlightGear public relations departement :-) Who is capable of providing a HTTP or FTP mirror for the ISO image ? Curt, would you consider to add a round-robin dispatcher for such an ISO image in case we get enough mirrors - like you already do for the downloads section ? Martin, I could probably do some sort of round robin dispatcher, sure. Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mirror for CD-image ?
I'd suggest you use a BitTorrent tracker too. You will only need to make a seeder host stay online for the time you like and download/upload bandwidth will be shared among clients. Big files like .iso images are well distributed inside such p2p networks. Roberto --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
On Saturday 29 April 2006 10:09, flying.toaster wrote: > Just one question before I get started ... > > What is the "reasonnable" polygon count (in triangles or quads) that can > be accepted by most platforms without turning into a slideshow ? > > For strike fighters this is somewhere in the 10,000 range (with a damage > model). > > I have come to realise that an iBook with a power PC G4 at 1GHz (the thing > I am using to write this mail) is rather slower (understatement) than my > other box (Linux box Radeon 9600Pro and 2 GHz Athlon). > > I can make something quite pretty with 7000 to 8000 polygons (given that > the tomcat has quite complex shapes) With 15,000 polygons it can be really > great... > > Enrique Polygons aren't the issue; textures are. So, feel free to go ahead with 15,000 polygons. :) Ampere --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747 autopilot xml
On Friday 28 April 2006 17:36, Justin Smithies wrote: > Hi all, >I'm trying to model a 777-200 and i've borrowed the > autopilot from the 747 model. > I've started making changes to the file so it reacts with the > 777-200 model e.g 2 engines not 4 etc. > One issue which i'm not sure about is when i take the aircraft > to 4000 at 300 kts and put the autopilot on altitude hold of > 4000 it holds fine around 4000 but starts to wave up and down > a few hundred feet non stop so it is flying up and down not > totally level 'ish. ( Not good for passenger comfort ;) ) > What settings in the 747-autuopilot.xml file can i adjust to > try and take this effect out ? > > Any help would be very much appreciated. > > Justin Smithies If you have a look at 747-autopilot.xml you'll see that for each autopilot mode/function there'll be one, or more, pid-controllers. These need to be tuned to match the flight characteristics for each specific aircraft. LeeE --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
On Saturday 29 April 2006 16:09, flying.toaster wrote: > Just one question before I get started ... > > What is the "reasonnable" polygon count (in triangles or quads) that can > be accepted by most platforms without turning into a slideshow ? > > For strike fighters this is somewhere in the 10,000 range (with a damage > model). > > I have come to realise that an iBook with a power PC G4 at 1GHz (the thing > I am using to write this mail) is rather slower (understatement) than my > other box (Linux box Radeon 9600Pro and 2 GHz Athlon). > > I can make something quite pretty with 7000 to 8000 polygons (given that > the tomcat has quite complex shapes) With 15,000 polygons it can be really > great... > > Enrique The poly count isn't that critical for a single object. Even the 2+ poly Concorde will have little effect on an old Geforce2. It's when you try to place 1 of those high poly count objects in a small area of scenery that you run into problems. Paul --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mirror for CD-image ?
I could post your iso file on my ftp site (ftp://kingmont.com). Flightgear is already "mirrored" there, and Curt has the ability to upload to that location. I'll create a "fglive" directory there. jj - Original Message - From: "Martin Spott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: list.flightgear-devel To: Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 6:42 AM Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Mirror for CD-image ? > Hello, > Pigeon is preparing to have a "LinuxTag edition" of his FGLive > FlightGear live CD. As we don't have the monetary ressources to produce > a noticeable amount of CD's to give away, we intend to place the ISO > image on as many servers as possible and would like to put striking > announcements on the FlightGear and Custom-Scenery web pages - you see, > we are trying to fill the gap that is left open my the missing > FlightGear public relations departement :-) > > Who is capable of providing a HTTP or FTP mirror for the ISO image ? > Curt, would you consider to add a round-robin dispatcher for such an > ISO image in case we get enough mirrors - like you already do for the > downloads section ? > > Cheers, > Martin. > -- > Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! > -- > > > --- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > __ > This email was pre-scanned by Spam Guardian > A Service Provided by http://www.foothill.net > --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
"flying.toaster" wrote: > For strike fighters this is somewhere in the 10,000 range (with a > damage model). The F-14 has a rather complex geometry so I'd say you are supposed to exceed the usual average, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 flying.toaster schrieb: > Just one question before I get started ... > > What is the "reasonnable" polygon count (in triangles or quads) that can be > accepted by most platforms without turning into a slideshow ? > > For strike fighters this is somewhere in the 10,000 range (with a damage > model). > > I have come to realise that an iBook with a power PC G4 at 1GHz (the thing I > am using to write this mail) is rather > slower (understatement) than my other box (Linux box Radeon 9600Pro and 2 GHz > Athlon). > > I can make something quite pretty with 7000 to 8000 polygons (given that the > tomcat has quite complex shapes) > With 15,000 polygons it can be really great... I can't give you numbers, but the fewer the better. Especially with a fighter plane that you might see during a dog fight it's crucial that the frame rate stays up. So I sugesst that you use LOD heavily. Having a high poly model for looking at it on the runway is great. But a low poly model that you'll see from a short distance (i.e. the dog fight) is also important. CU, Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEU3kclhWtxOxWNFcRAmLIAKCrdHJk2GWS5YEIf40sZhDCzpOECgCePigd gzESlzH0ZrYS4Ak/RwloKmE= =PLXf -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
Just one question before I get started ... What is the "reasonnable" polygon count (in triangles or quads) that can be accepted by most platforms without turning into a slideshow ? For strike fighters this is somewhere in the 10,000 range (with a damage model). I have come to realise that an iBook with a power PC G4 at 1GHz (the thing I am using to write this mail) is rather slower (understatement) than my other box (Linux box Radeon 9600Pro and 2 GHz Athlon). I can make something quite pretty with 7000 to 8000 polygons (given that the tomcat has quite complex shapes) With 15,000 polygons it can be really great... Enrique --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Mirror for CD-image ?
Hello, Pigeon is preparing to have a "LinuxTag edition" of his FGLive FlightGear live CD. As we don't have the monetary ressources to produce a noticeable amount of CD's to give away, we intend to place the ISO image on as many servers as possible and would like to put striking announcements on the FlightGear and Custom-Scenery web pages - you see, we are trying to fill the gap that is left open my the missing FlightGear public relations departement :-) Who is capable of providing a HTTP or FTP mirror for the ISO image ? Curt, would you consider to add a round-robin dispatcher for such an ISO image in case we get enough mirrors - like you already do for the downloads section ? Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: New FG tracker features
> Though seriously, excellent work. I hope you are/will be caching the > generated images, rather than generating them every view. It's Google Map. Images are from google fetched on the fly from your browser, nothing much is generated or cached at the FG tracker server side. Pigeon. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Douglass A-4
On Saturday 29 April 2006 07:57 am, Jon S. Berndt wrote: > It seems that in the pitch channel for the A-4 the pilot commands normal > acceleration. The Az error is computed, and that is differenced with pitch > rate. That error drives the elevator. See the A-4 section here: Yes, I just now found the link page at the JSBSim site :( I guess I haven't been paying attention. Anyway, yes it looks like there was some extra damping. I just used aeromatic to generate an A-4 model, then went through and changed the pitch stability derivatives to match those in the Teper paper. I'll work more on it later, but right now I just wanted a model that puts Teper's "official" numbers into the pitch calcs. A short test flight shows an airplane with very light pitch damping, as one would expect. Dave --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Douglass A-4
> Anyone here know if the A-4 had a pitch SAS? > > Dave Dave: It seems that in the pitch channel for the A-4 the pilot commands normal acceleration. The Az error is computed, and that is differenced with pitch rate. That error drives the elevator. See the A-4 section here: http://www.jsbsim.org/NASA_CR-96008.pdf I've wanted to use this data for the longest time to create a JSBSim model... Jon --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] A4F - AAR Capability
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 09:01 +0100, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Ron > > > > > I have > > > also taken the opportunity to adjust the panel to make it more nearly > > like > > > that of an A4F, rather than an A4C, although a couple of the instruments > > are > > > not correct, principally the ASI should be replaced with a combined > > ASI/Mach > > > instrument. > > > > Take a look at my F-4's ASI/Mach meter. > > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/f4e-progress03.jpg > > model at http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/F4E.tgz > > > > This meter is close to the A-4 instrument from my limited research. It > > reads 0-800 KIAS, while I think the A-4 instrument is 0-600 KIAS. Your > > welcome to drop the F4 instrument into the A4, its GPL. > > > > Thanks, it seems like a standard US instrument of the time, with slightly > different ranges. I've downloaded it. I just have to work out how to rotate > the mach dial, or rather, what would be the appropriate input. > > The mach dial rotates based on pressure altitude using the property /instrumentation/altimeter/indicated-altitude-ft see https://ewhdbks.mugu.navy.mil/mach-as.htm . The scale is calibrated so once the dial is set for a given pressure altitude it doesn't need to move until the altitude changes. See the file Models/asi.xml its already set up. Ron --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Generic Protocol (generic.cxx etc) - Binary Mode
Hugo Vincent wrote: Thanks Erik, Here is the patch. Let me know what needs to be changed, fixed, or refactored before it can go into CVS. Note that at this point, the binary protocol is output only. I've made some small changes (mainly changing printf to SG_LOG, etc) and committed it to CVS. Nice work Hugo. Erik -- http://www.ehtw.info (Dutch)Future of Enschede Airport Twente http://www.ehofman.com/fgfs FlightGear Flight Simulator --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robicd schrieb: >> The usual way (the only one?) to create mirrors is to render the scenery >> (at least) twice. > > I wonder if it's easy to implement, I don't know how SimGear/Plib handle > that (if it's even possible). That should not be a real drop down in > performance since the mirror has a very small area to render. The handling of PLIB/SSG should be very easy. Just cull and draw the scenegraph from the "virtual eyepoint" first and then do the normal cull and draw that we are doing now. The bigger problem is the render to texture part - but IIRC that's already solved. >> Rendering once with a wide angle to a texture can >> probably be enough to fake the pictures on the 3 concave mirrors. > > Are those mirrors concave at all? AFAIK yes. This gives the pilot a much greater area he can look at. CU, Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEU10alhWtxOxWNFcRAgKrAJ0fsSaKq67ys/yb5veVOlh+96AeAQCfd+AX y+GbNm2hFIaNy1oEzxNUsCU= =059d -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Douglass A-4
Anyone here know if the A-4 had a pitch SAS? Dave --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
The usual way (the only one?) to create mirrors is to render the scenery (at least) twice. I wonder if it's easy to implement, I don't know how SimGear/Plib handle that (if it's even possible). That should not be a real drop down in performance since the mirror has a very small area to render. > Rendering once with a wide angle to a texture can > probably be enough to fake the pictures on the 3 concave mirrors. Are those mirrors concave at all? Roberto --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robicd schrieb: > There are mirrors inside, for the pilots (look at > http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-cp-canopy-01l.jpg); I wonder if > there's a way with FGFS to create those mirrors, some kind of > picture-in-picture technique :-) The usual way (the only one?) to create mirrors is to render the scenery (at least) twice. Rendering once with a wide angle to a texture can probably be enough to fake the pictures on the 3 concave mirrors. CU, Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEU1QvlhWtxOxWNFcRAg3MAJ4qqedL8wKssn7vR2gX/XGxq5a1rACfcu27 jz/2VvzNVZImB6oCyD7M4R4= =4ttK -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
Robicd wrote: > Are such mirrors used in Civil Aviation A/C too? The "Remorqueur", the Robin DR400/180R typically has a mirror that allows the pilot to look at the glider behind while towing. This is one flavour, althogh the mirrors I have seen on such an aircraft typically look a bit more 'elegant': http://www.dorotheen.de/fly/DR400.htm Even a simple C150 has a small mirror, but this is mounted into the panel, Martin. Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
> Are such mirrors used in Civil Aviation A/C too? Yep, those that are towing sailplanes sometimes have a mirror. That should be an interesting thing for multiplayer: one pilot flying the towing plane and one is in the sailplane. Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
There are mirrors inside, for the pilots (look at http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-cp-canopy-01l.jpg); I wonder if there's a way with FGFS to create those mirrors, some kind of picture-in-picture technique :-) Or should that be implemented in the code? Are such mirrors used in Civil Aviation A/C too? Roberto --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
> http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-dimensions.htm > > in case you need some more info :-) Excellent source. Jon --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-dimensions.htm in case you need some more info :-) --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New FG tracker features
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 10:15 -0400, Julien Pierru wrote: > Hey guys > > Some a you have already taken advantage of the tracker capability of > the online multiplay. Here is an example of what is coming: > http://fgfs.i-net.hu/modules/fgtracker/?FUNCT=FLIGHT&FLIGHTID=411 > > No i wasn't drunk when i made the flight, i was just trying to close > the hood of the cockpit so i wasn't paying attention of where i was > flying > Hi Julien, You mean you took off without closing the hood first? :-P Though seriously, excellent work. I hope you are/will be caching the generated images, rather than generating them every view. Regards George -- George Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New FG tracker features
> To me this page is empty !? He must have been changing things. Try this: http://fgfs.i-net.hu/modules/fgtracker/?FUNCT=FLIGHT&FLIGHTID=418 Pigeon. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New FG tracker features
interesting the link got corrupted, this should work: http://fgfs.i-net.hu/modules/fgtracker/?FUNCT=FLIGHT&FLIGHTID=411
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New FG tracker features
"Julien Pierru" wrote: > Some a you have already taken advantage of the tracker capability of the > online multiplay. Here is an example of what is coming: > http://fgfs.i-net.hu/modules/fgtracker/?FUNCT=3DFLIGHT&FLIGHTID=3D411 To me this page is empty !? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
Detlef Faber wrote: > The hardest part will be the Flight Model, sweep wings, a pair of > retractable trim wings and a supersonic flight envelope. But it would be > a great addition to FG. ( I loved playing Microprose's F14 Fleet > Defender). The IRIX operating system contains a simple but terribly fast flight simulator, including shadows, which features a F-14D; it's not that bad but the panel looks totally artificial. This was my first 'experience' with a simulation of an F-14 - in my eyes probably the most thrilling military aircraft ever since - and I would love to see such an aircraft in FlightGear, Martin. P.S.: I should say: This was almosty my first experience with flight simulation at all and I didn't use any other aircraft but the F-14D :-) P.P.S.: There was a Windows program that was told to be a port of the SGI Flight Simulator; look for 'sgflight' - it might not run on current Windows systems - or pick it from here: ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/sgflight.zip -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
Am Freitag, den 28.04.2006, 20:42 +0200 schrieb flying.toaster: > If a 3D exterior model is needed I will contribute (blender) > I have an Aerofax on the tomcat with lots of pictures. > I'm interested in the B (A+) make since the nozzles are the > smooth F110 ones and the avionics still are a little crude (easier to model). > I would need somebody to help with the textures and animations though... > > Enrique > I would like to do the texture and/or animation job. If I get the model I'll do the mapping too. The hardest part will be the Flight Model, sweep wings, a pair of retractable trim wings and a supersonic flight envelope. But it would be a great addition to FG. ( I loved playing Microprose's F14 Fleet Defender). Greetings Detlef --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: statistics: usage of texture memory (shocking!)
Selon Melchior FRANZ : > * Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 29 April 2006 06:28: > > * Frederic Bouvier -- Saturday 29 April 2006 00:00: > > > Perhaps you already noticed, but I checked a change to model.cxx that > > > allow PLIB, with its own mecanism, to reuse textures from models to > models. > > > > Yes, this was hard to miss. With it all my aircraft were untextured > > (red/white), and I reverted this patch locally. Didn't look into it yet, > > maybe it's only a problem on my side. > > Oh, yes, it is. My clean tree (no local modifications) doesn't have that > problem. > I'll find out what causes it. Sorry for the false alarm, then. Thanks for > this > very clean solution for the texture problem. :-) There was a texture problem (actually a texture path problem) :-( I overlooked it using the ufo. Maybe you still have the sticky tag. Loaders are changing the default global options even when an alternate one is given, so the first ssgTexturePath was lost. This is unfortunate. Now I set up our own as the default one. It is fixed now. Thanks for this report. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] A4F - AAR Capability
Dave > > I committed a new facility for the A4F yesterday. It now has a > functioning > > AAR capability with YASim, like the one already available for JSBSim. > ... > > Great. I can't wait to try it out. BTW, now I can stop using the T-38 as > a > refueling demonstrator :) It's still a radar demonstrator though, unless > someone else has added radar to his model? > > Will the KA-6 be part of the carrier AI scenario? > That is the plan, but it's turning out to be a little more protracted than I first thought (no surprise eh!). Weeks rather than days I now estimate. Vivian --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] A4F - AAR Capability
Ron > > I have > > also taken the opportunity to adjust the panel to make it more nearly > like > > that of an A4F, rather than an A4C, although a couple of the instruments > are > > not correct, principally the ASI should be replaced with a combined > ASI/Mach > > instrument. > > Take a look at my F-4's ASI/Mach meter. > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/f4e-progress03.jpg > model at http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/F4E.tgz > > This meter is close to the A-4 instrument from my limited research. It > reads 0-800 KIAS, while I think the A-4 instrument is 0-600 KIAS. Your > welcome to drop the F4 instrument into the A4, its GPL. > Thanks, it seems like a standard US instrument of the time, with slightly different ranges. I've downloaded it. I just have to work out how to rotate the mach dial, or rather, what would be the appropriate input. > > > PS Yes, the A4 has a probe while the KC135 is a boom refueller. I'm > working > > on a KA6-D right now. > > http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/kc135/kc1351.html > http://www.af.mil/photos/index.asp?galleryID=38&page=2 > KC-135s have drogue refueling equipment available, so its not totally > inappropriate, but for carrier ops a KA6-D is more realistic. :) Yes - the KC135 has the option of attaching a hose to the boom (and ours hasn't), but I have read that there is a program to put hose pods under the wings. Vivian --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
