Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
* Mathias Fröhlich -- Thursday 17 August 2006 07:48: From my point of view this is a total misfeature. And from my point of view it is a misfeature to bolt the pilot's head on the fuselage, which is what it looks and feels like with the old static view -- on a helicopter more so than on a fixed wing. That's why this feature will remain active by default. BTW: if someone wants to test it on other aircraft, here's a first stab at a generalized version: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/flightgear/dynamic_view.nas [4.2 kB] Put it into $FG_ROOT/Nasal/ and start fgfs like so: $ fgfs --aircraft=OV10_USAFE --airport=KNUQ --prop:sim/view/dynamic=1 This needs to be enabled from the beginning, as it can't currently be turned on at runtime. (JSBSim is a bit problematic on ground due to excessive y acceleration. Which is what *I* call a misfeature. :-) We could use some more helicopters. What about you?! Any contribution around the corner? Don't mix up independent things Mechior ... It was too tempting. It's OK for non-developers to lurk on a development list, it's also OK for them to criticize developers, but demanding justification from those who do the work is a bit too much. Or was too much yesterday late in the evening. No, if you want to present flightgear in an environment where this stuff does not make sense at all and where people expect a somehow well done and working presentation, you don't want to additionally fiddle with that stuff. Then I take the apology back. You honestly think that's a valid reason? FlightGear should be perfectly preconfigured for retarded booth staff? And the other 100 users should fiddle instead? Now, this is funny. And a very innovative view, indeed. One would think that someone who presents FlightGear to the public should know about configuration options, but that's just me. But anyway can we have a maser switch to get rid of that once for ever in every aircraft? It's only in the bo105 and the seahawk. Yes, if there's demand for this to be available in more/all aircraft, then there will certainly be a common menu entry for all aircraft. m. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] [OT] RL Microlight Trial Flight
Hi All, In the tradition of FGers mentioning their RL flying experience, I thought I'd mention the microlight trial flight I took yesterday. I'd already had a couple of hours in GA aircraft while on business in the USA, but here in the UK the very high cost of lessons, hire etc. is a big barrier for entry, and I haven't pursued flying seriously. I was at an airshow at my local museum of flight (http://www.nms.ac.uk/flight/home/index.asp) and got chatting to some microlighters, so signed up for a trial flight at the local microlight school (right next to the museum - http://www.sites.ecosse.net/graeme.ritchie/eosm/home.asp). They have about 50 microlights at the airstrip, all of the trike kind - see the picture on the website for an idea of what they are like. The views over East Lothian were stunning - and matched very closely the scenery in FG! (Try flying East from Edinburgh Airport EGPH). With almost no body-work and a high wing, your view is only limited by the rotation of your head, which was quite a change from the restricted view in a C172. The controls are reversed in comparison with a normal yoke, but because you are moving the wing directly using a control-bar, and can see the effects of your control inputs, it's pretty intuitive. Because you are moving the wing directly, it requires more force than a yoke, and you feel turbulence more. While practising turns we encountered our own wake turbulence, which was quite noticable! However, it is incredibly stable - from full deflection of the wing, it returns to straight-and-levelish flight almost immediately, with a couple fo oscillations. No need for an auto-pilot - you can happily fly it hands-off Instrumentation is minimal, as this is a pure VFR aircraft. Altimeter, ASI, VSI, EGT, Fuel, and compass. We didn't even have a radio for the flight, though the airfield is manned and has a published frequency. The aircraft we were using was quite an old model, so we were cruising at 52mph, and getting 900fpm rate of ascent. While it was very pleasant cruising at this speed, when we dove to 70mph, the wind buffet was quite chilling. The newest microlights cruise at 90mph and apparently have much better fairings - a bit like touring motorcycles I guess. The aircraft takes-off and landing very little space - certainly way less than a c172, and it seems there are quite a few airstrips in Scotland that only microlights can use. In comparison with GA aircraft, everything is way simpler, lighter and (most importantly) cheaper. MTOW for microlights in the UK is 450kg, but the aircraft I was in had a MTOW of 406kg. Empty, the aircraft weighed about 200kg. Brand new aircraft are around £20k, and used aircraft start from £2k. Owners are allowed to do their own maintenance, the aircraft run on petrol and use about £10 per hour in fuel. The NPPL license is minimum 25 hours, as opposed to 40 for a GA aircraft. I've signed up for some more lessons, so maybe this time next year I'll be posting that I've got my license! I'd highly recommend a trial lesson as a way to get into the air for real, mine was £55 for 30 minutes, which is about the cost of MSFS and some scenery, which we get for free from FG! -Stuart PS: £1 is about $1.8 for those wishing to do a conversion. ___ All new Yahoo! Mail The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use. - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Debugging MultiPlayer
Hi together, I'd like to get the MultiPlayer setup on my wife's PeeCee up and running before I recommend use of this feature in The Manual. After spending a couple of hours with researching the interna of my NAT gateway last night, I decided to make a simpler setup for testing purpose and took two computers on the local network today. Actually it doesn't work as expected, I'm a bit lost and desperately seeking for suggestions on how to debug. There are two computers, equipped with FlightGear binary and base package from the most recent I could get from CVS today: 192.168.48.4, sirius.mgras.de, IRIX N32 binary 192.168.48.5, jive.mgras.de, Linux AMD x86-64 binary This is how I start FlightGear on 'sirius' (which takes a bit longer to load ;-) fgfs --airport=EDWJ --runway=08 \ --multiplay=out,10,jive.mgras.de,5001 \ --multiplay=in,10,192.168.48.4,5002 --callsign=D-ECLL and afterwards on 'jive': fgfs --airport=EDWJ --runway=26 \ --multiplay=out,10,sirius.mgras.de,5002 \ --multiplay=in,10,192.168.48.5,5001 --callsign=D-EEQA Now I would expect at least one, better each of the two pilots to see the other aircraft idling at the opposite end of the runway - but nbody's there. The output of 'tcpdump' on 'jive' looks quite reasonable: 12:02:37.083910 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:37.177510 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:37.282107 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:37.295894 IP sirius.mgras.de.rfe jive.mgras.de.5001: UDP, length: 384 12:02:37.375389 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:37.483616 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:37.577118 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:37.681702 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:37.684980 IP sirius.mgras.de.rfe jive.mgras.de.5001: UDP, length: 384 12:02:37.775424 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:37.883775 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:37.977856 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:38.077058 IP sirius.mgras.de.rfe jive.mgras.de.5001: UDP, length: 384 12:02:38.077807 arp who-has sirius.mgras.de tell jive.mgras.de 12:02:38.079701 arp reply sirius.mgras.de is-at 00:20:48:08:cb:7c 12:02:38.083308 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:38.177063 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:38.283802 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:38.377333 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:38.467070 IP sirius.mgras.de.rfe jive.mgras.de.5001: UDP, length: 384 12:02:38.483136 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:38.576977 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:38.683704 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:38.776826 IP jive.mgras.de.5001 sirius.mgras.de.rfe: UDP, length: 384 12:02:38.857072 IP sirius.mgras.de.rfe jive.mgras.de.5001: UDP, length: 384 Any hint where I should start investigating ? Thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Debugging MultiPlayer
--- Martin Spott wrote: I'd like to get the MultiPlayer setup on my wife's PeeCee up and running before I recommend use of this feature in The Manual. I thought I wrote a chapter for the Features section of the manual already? Or were you going to include it in the main installation section? After spending a couple of hours with researching the interna of my NAT gateway last night, I decided to make a simpler setup for testing purpose and took two computers on the local network today. Actually it doesn't work as expected, I'm a bit lost and desperately seeking for suggestions on how to debug. So, presumably you are unable to connect to the normal MP servers? There are two computers, equipped with FlightGear binary and base package from the most recent I could get from CVS today: 192.168.48.4, sirius.mgras.de, IRIX N32 binary 192.168.48.5, jive.mgras.de, Linux AMD x86-64 binary This is how I start FlightGear on 'sirius' (which takes a bit longer to load ;-) fgfs --airport=EDWJ --runway=08 \ --multiplay=out,10,jive.mgras.de,5001 \ --multiplay=in,10,192.168.48.4,5002 --callsign=D-ECLL and afterwards on 'jive': fgfs --airport=EDWJ --runway=26 \ --multiplay=out,10,sirius.mgras.de,5002 \ --multiplay=in,10,192.168.48.5,5001 --callsign=D-EEQA As I recall, the current MP code ignores one of these settings and does something else, but I can't recall what. You may therefore need to run the MP server as well and connect to that. I don't think you can run both the server and FG on the same machine without some effort - they end up having port contention. of course, it then difficult to tell if things are working if you only have one MP client! -Stuart ___ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. The New Version is radically easier to use The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Debugging MultiPlayer
Hi, Martin Spott wrote: Now I would expect at least one, better each of the two pilots to see the other aircraft idling at the opposite end of the runway - but nbody's there. [SNIP] Any hint where I should start investigating ? Are you sure you enabled AI-objects? Cheers, Ralf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
* Martin Spott -- Thursday 17 August 2006 12:33: I find it very irritating to have someone else moving my view direction in the simulator. You're right, this somehow resembles real live, Bingo. If we walk, or drive, or fly, or jump from branch to branch in a tree -- we don't experience ourselves as static in a jumping, drifting world. We experience the terrain as static. Our brain, eyes and equilibrium organs do a great job in stabilizing the surrounding world. The dynamic view in the bo stabilizes the terrain in very slow flight, just as our *automatic* view head movements would. This effect becomes less as speed increases. but there's a significant difference: In real live you have a feeling of the forces that correspond to the movement of your head, which lack in the simulator. Exactly. And because this sensation is missing, we need additional visual cue. In the bo's dynamic view this is achieved by the helicopter parts having the freedom to move indepent from terrain (obviously :-) and pilot. This gives a feeling of movements and acceleration -- much like your butt would tell you. You, well I at least, almost *feel* the G when the ground plate comes up in slow flight when I pull back. And much like in real life on my helicopter flights. I can concentrate on the *stable* helipad -- rolling doesn't move the helipad, and not my view, but just the helicopter frame. And in real life it's *very* painless to keep the interesting region in the view. Just move your head. It's automatic, you don't have to think about it. In FlightGear you have to do a distracting operation to get the region of interest in the view (moving the mouse), especially if you need your right hand on the stick and the left hand on the collective. (I'd say that 99.9% of fgfs users don't have panaroama screen or head-tracker.) The dynamic view makes keeping the interesting region in the view as automatic as in Real Life. Sure, it may move the panel out of view when you want to look, but who want's to read the ASI in a sharp turn?! And in the few cases when you want to, you can still use the mouse. Just like before. (BTW: I have bound the left flap button to instantly move to panel view, and I want to make the other flap button look in drift direction for sideways slipping.) Therefore I consider the 'managed-view' still an interesting feature, but inappropriate for the given case. I'm turning it off when sitting in the BO, That's OK. Doesn't come as a surprise that there are different views and preferences. That's why it is configurable, always was thought to be configurable, and will always be configurable. I'd be surprised, though, if the majoriy agreed with your preference. :-) m. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Debugging MultiPlayer
Martin Spott wrote: Partially, yesterday evening I got registered as [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I see, the part behind @ points to the MP server, not to the IP from which the client connects. Yes, finally I just managed to see some people around KSFO - strange things happen with Solaris IPFilter Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Inconsistent MP state after reset; Was: Debugging MultiPlayer
Martin Spott wrote: [...] I decided to make a simpler setup for testing purpose and took two computers on the local network today. While playing with this setup, I encountered something that looks pretty funny, but (I guess) should not occur. Let me explain: I start FG on 'A' with some irrelevant aircraft and point the tower view look at to the opposite end of the runway - the effect actually is completely unrelated to the view, it's just easier to reproduce the effect. On this opposite end of the runway I start FG on 'B' with the BO. I crash the BO by touching the ground with the wrong end and chose reset from the menu. While the BO on 'B' resets in a sane state (as expected), the display on 'A' still shows the helicopter in the crashed state with the wrong side up. After restarting the whole sim on 'B', the helicopter gets re-displayed on 'A' at the correct location with the skids on the ground - but still with magled rotor blades and tail. Apparently the recovery from the crash animation does not get transmitted over the MP protocol - neither after reset nor after a restart of the sim. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Model adding/download/rating system
Long time since this thread was active :PAnyway, thinking back to this project and hoping to do something for FlightGear (taking a look at the current CVS source it all looks a little over my head).Anyway, i'll happily work on this project and host it myself, question is - is this a good idea, and can i make use of the flightgear logo (with/without some colour scheme mods?). I'd really appreciate everyones input :)On 05/01/06, Ampere K. Hardraade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On January 4, 2006 12:26 pm, Martin Spott wrote: Karsten Krispin wrote: But it would be great to have such a database and acutally also the object db (but that's another story) on one site. - Users doesn't have to crawl on hundreds of sites to find some nice aircrafts but looking on fg-site and get happy. I'd say this is already the case _now_, but this: [...] Additionally, you don't have to keep track of the latest version of one aircraft, the author himself can update his aircraft on his own. really makes sense. Cheers, Martin.Agreed!Ampere---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___Flightgear-devel mailing listFlightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel-- http://www.benbread.co.uk - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
On Thursday 17 August 2006 00:51, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Matthias Boerner -- Thursday 17 August 2006 00:15: On Wednesday 16 August 2006 22:30, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Matthias Boerner -- Wednesday 16 August 2006 22:27: Shouldn't the old style of view the default property and the new managed-view the one which is selectable? No. Ok, why? Because I like it and think it should be active by default. FlightGear aircraft are property of their creators -- they decide (as long as no sacred rules are violated). Everyone is free to modify his/her copy, to fork it, or even to create their own, better aircraft. We could use some more helicopters. What about you?! Any contribution around the corner? Yes, actually, I am working on a helicopter. I posted that already a while ago. Anyway... If there was a poll (which is not the case), then I would have to say: 5 people welcomed it. *Nobody* has complained about it so far. You didn't argue at all, just imply a sacred rule that doesn't exist. Mathias had the most ridiculous argument: the 100 rich guys with panorama or multi-screen setup, or head-trackers shouldn't have to turn it off. I'm very depressed and sad to cause this pain to that 0.0001% minority, and you can call me old-fashioned, but somehow I think that doing what I consider desirable for 99.% of users is right. m. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
On Thursday 17 August 2006 08:35, Melchior FRANZ wrote: ---snip It was too tempting. It's OK for non-developers to lurk on a development list, it's also OK for them to criticize developers, but demanding justification from those who do the work is a bit too much. Or was too much yesterday late in the evening. Oh, if you mean me I am sorry that I made you losing your temper. I can remember myself that I asked you only two questions without any judgment or criticism. No, if you want to present flightgear in an environment where this stuff does not make sense at all and where people expect a somehow well done and working presentation, you don't want to additionally fiddle with that stuff. Then I take the apology back. You honestly think that's a valid reason? FlightGear should be perfectly preconfigured for retarded booth staff? And the other 100 users should fiddle instead? Now, this is funny. And a very innovative view, indeed. One would think that someone who presents FlightGear to the public should know about configuration options, but that's just me. Well, here is the point: retarded booth staff is not very nice. Did you ever organize a booth and helped? Probably not, otherwise you wouldn't have said that. For your information, I was at the Linux Tag in Wiesbaden and a member of the FlightGear booth staff. But I will stop this here. ---snip Matthias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
Hi, And from my point of view it is a misfeature to bolt the pilot's head on the fuselage, which is what it looks and feels like with For my point of view it is an error to end up in a constantly rotating view. This is what I get if I restart the bo105 after a crash. Olaf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] mpdummy ?; Was: Debugging MultiPlayer
May I kindly ask the MP server guys to add the same mpdummy aircraft to the port 5002 unstable scene like it's already present for the stable scene ? Done :) Pigeon. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Request for Linux-Info-Tag Dresden, Germany early October
Dear Readers! Since I am pretty new to this FlightGearproject (approx 2 week) I'm in the mood larger than my productivity. Anyways: in about 7 weeks from now there will be Dresden's annual Linux Infotag (framed into Informatikwoche), a good background in order to present open source-projects. (Some links to grab at German page: http://www.wh10.tu-dresden.de/~lego/neu/latex.php?index=2 encountering and authoriasationrequest use LOGIN: go and PASSWORD: spammer) I heard about some Linuxtag realisations (Stuttgart?). So I really like to contact ppl with experience in that. Furthermore I have to point out, that I will not be able to setup a presentation alone, due to the fact, that I neither owe the sufficent hardware nor am able to provide the necessary details in this project and its core programmcode. But maybe there is already a group organized in my town or ppl are willing to come here? Kindly requesting an information on (and rating of) possible support in this idea! Yours, Carsten Vogel TU Dresden, Germany (english, deutsch, francais) - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
* Jon S. Berndt -- Thursday 17 August 2006 15:12: I've adjusted the landing gear values a bit. Can you explain what you mean by excessive Y acceleration? Is this while sittings till on the runway? Is it something that happens as you accelerate? Yes, on the runway and when accelerating. And excessive is relative. It's excessive for my purpose and compared with yasim. :-) But the fact that it's not there when the brakes are applied could also be because I multiply with a function of velocity, so it's zeroed there. I'll try to make the script more robust for jsbsim. m. Interesting. I ran a test earlier today with the OV-10 sitting on the runway in JSBSim standalone. It's just sitting there. So, I wonder if there is a problem in the interaction with FlightGear, somehow? Does anyone else see this? Did you say something about a script? Which version of FlightGear are you using? Can you tell me what command line you use to start FlightGear so I can try and duplicate the problem? I'll have to swap my silly video card... Jon - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] managed view option....
Hi all , I find the managed view very distracting... only because , since I dont have rudder pedals , I cant get off the ground without spinning like crazy until I get some forward momentum.(Yes , with auto coordination enabled ).I do like the effect during stable flight so , wouldn't a simpler solution be to add a 7th view, the standard cockpit view (same idea as the chase / helicopter view)? Ive had a similar effect attached to my aircraft for quite a while now , but just movement along the Z axis. Thats my thoughts anyway, it would be nice to switch modes on the fly. Cheers, Syd - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
