Re: [Flightgear-devel] Modeling VOR/DME stations
On 05/10/2007, Bohnert Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doe any body have a picture of the VOR at KSFO? I have not been able to > find one. Here it is from the top: http://maps.google.com/?q=37.619,-122.375&ie=UTF8&ll=37.619494,-122.373772&spn=0.000935,0.002103&t=k&z=19&om=1 All the best, David - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Modeling VOR/DME stations
All, I submitted an new VOR/DME model to the FlightGear Scenery Object Database. It is based on an on-field VOR in the US. http://pics.ww.com/v/coulee182/fgfs-vordme-025.jpg.html FlightGear only has one VOR model. There are many different VOR stations around the world. Would a developer be interested in adding a way to selected different models for each VOR. Any VOR that does not have a model selected should fall back to a default model. If a VOR selects a model that can't be found, it should fall back to the default model. That way people that don't care about VOR models wouldn't have to download them. That also brings up the question. What should the default VOR model look like? Considering most FlightGear users start at KSFO. I suggest the VOR station at KSFO be used as the default. This would help make a good first impression with new users. Doe any body have a picture of the VOR at KSFO? I have not been able to find one. Best Regard, Paul B - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] piston aircraft pre-flight engine runup
Thank you Jon and Torsten, I've been very impressed with the c172p and the c150. Simulating the mags makes an already excellent model just about perfect! Regards, Drew On Saturday 06 October 2007 07:10:14 Jon S. Berndt wrote: > > Hi Drew > > > > I just posted a patch on the JSBSim list to model this. I've been > > missing this > > for a long time. So at least aircraft that use the JSBSim FDM should > > see this > > feature soon ;-) > > > > Greetings, Torsten > > Well, I don't know what happened. I can't find any hint that we ever added > this feature. So, I'll take a look at your changes and maybe add this to > JSBSim in CVS. > > Thanks! > > Jon > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] piston aircraft pre-flight engine runup
Thanks Detlef, Yes, indeed, they both do. These are two very nice models I haven't flown much. Regards, Drew On Saturday 06 October 2007 03:08:58 Detlef Faber wrote: > Hellop drew, > > Am Freitag, den 05.10.2007, 22:20 +1000 schrieb drew: > > In "real life" flying of the Cessna 172/152/150, you run the engine up to > > 1700 rpm then check the health of each ignition system by switching off > > the left then right magnetos in turn and watch for a corresponding drop > > in rpm (typically 50-75 rpm). This drop in revs does not seem to be > > simulated in FG in any piston engined aircraft that I have tried. > > This is not a complaint, just an observation. Can this be simulated in FG > > (or am I just a silly old pedant). > > Try the pa24, pa28 or any other yasim aircraft. they will do a noticable > rpm drop on one magneto. > > Greetings > > Detlef > > http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear > > > Kind regards, > > Drew > > > > - > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > ___ > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] piston aircraft pre-flight engine runup
> Hi Drew > > I just posted a patch on the JSBSim list to model this. I've been > missing this > for a long time. So at least aircraft that use the JSBSim FDM should > see this > feature soon ;-) > > Greetings, Torsten Well, I don't know what happened. I can't find any hint that we ever added this feature. So, I'll take a look at your changes and maybe add this to JSBSim in CVS. Thanks! Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] piston aircraft pre-flight engine runup
Hellop drew, Am Freitag, den 05.10.2007, 22:20 +1000 schrieb drew: > In "real life" flying of the Cessna 172/152/150, you run the engine up to > 1700 > rpm then check the health of each ignition system by switching off the left > then right magnetos in turn and watch for a corresponding drop in rpm > (typically 50-75 rpm). This drop in revs does not seem to be simulated in FG > in any piston engined aircraft that I have tried. > This is not a complaint, just an observation. Can this be simulated in FG (or > am I just a silly old pedant). > Try the pa24, pa28 or any other yasim aircraft. they will do a noticable rpm drop on one magneto. Greetings Detlef http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear > Kind regards, > Drew > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] piston aircraft pre-flight engine runup
Hi Drew I just posted a patch on the JSBSim list to model this. I've been missing this for a long time. So at least aircraft that use the JSBSim FDM should see this feature soon ;-) Greetings, Torsten > In "real life" flying of the Cessna 172/152/150, you run the engine up to > 1700 rpm then check the health of each ignition system by switching off the > left then right magnetos in turn and watch for a corresponding drop in rpm > (typically 50-75 rpm). This drop in revs does not seem to be simulated in > FG in any piston engined aircraft that I have tried. > This is not a complaint, just an observation. Can this be simulated in FG > (or am I just a silly old pedant). > > Kind regards, > Drew - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] oil platform...
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:18:25 +0100 "Vivian Meazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Syd&Sandy > > > Sent: 05 October 2007 01:04 > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] oil platform... > > > > > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:23:26 +0100 > > "Vivian Meazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hmm. I have some difficulty with putting oil rigs in > > locations where > > > they aren't in RL. Realism is our watchword. > > > > Yes , I've tried Santa and the Ogel :) > > Santa isn't real? Who brings my prezzies at Xmas then? > > Ogel, don't you just love that trampling all over the palce in Multiplayer > :-). > > > > > After all, there are hundreds, if > > > not thousands of the darned things all over the shallow > > oceans for you > > > to put one in the right place. > > > > > > Vivian > > > > > > > OK ...consider it gone ... > > Now you see it ... Now you don't :-) > > Regards > > Vivian > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel My apologies , dont know what came over me ! Yes Santa is real :) -- Syd&Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] piston aircraft pre-flight engine runup
On 05/10/2007, drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. I've actually had the "pleasure" of pushing a crate with a shonky donk > back to the hanger. There is an alternative, sometimes. If the plug isn't completely dead but just misfiring a lot, you can often clear the lead by doing a high-power, lean ground run for about 5 minutes. Rental planes are especially prone to lead fouling, because a lot of people taxi them around with the mixture set to full rich. All the best, David - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] piston aircraft pre-flight engine runup
Thanks David, Yes. I've actually had the "pleasure" of pushing a crate with a shonky donk back to the hanger. :) Drew On Friday 05 October 2007 22:34:26 David Megginson wrote: > On 05/10/2007, drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In "real life" flying of the Cessna 172/152/150, you run the engine up to > > 1700 rpm then check the health of each ignition system by switching off > > the left then right magnetos in turn and watch for a corresponding drop > > in rpm (typically 50-75 rpm). This drop in revs does not seem to be > > simulated in FG in any piston engined aircraft that I have tried. > > This is not a complaint, just an observation. Can this be simulated in FG > > (or am I just a silly old pedant). > > To make things more interesting, the drop is much more dramatic when > you do the check with the mixture heavily leaned, so you don't just > want to hardcode a 50rpm drop when there's just one magneto selected. > > For the non air-heads, each cylinder has two spark plugs, one > connected to each magneto (e.g. two independent ignition systems); > when you select only a single magneto, one of the spark plugs in each > cylinder doesn't fire, and the overall power output drops very > slightly. If there's a problem, however -- say, one of the plugs is > lead-fouled -- the engine will start running *very* rough, since it's > dragging a dead cylinder. > > > All the best, > > > DAvid > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] piston aircraft pre-flight engine runup
On 05/10/2007, drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In "real life" flying of the Cessna 172/152/150, you run the engine up to 1700 > rpm then check the health of each ignition system by switching off the left > then right magnetos in turn and watch for a corresponding drop in rpm > (typically 50-75 rpm). This drop in revs does not seem to be simulated in FG > in any piston engined aircraft that I have tried. > This is not a complaint, just an observation. Can this be simulated in FG (or > am I just a silly old pedant). To make things more interesting, the drop is much more dramatic when you do the check with the mixture heavily leaned, so you don't just want to hardcode a 50rpm drop when there's just one magneto selected. For the non air-heads, each cylinder has two spark plugs, one connected to each magneto (e.g. two independent ignition systems); when you select only a single magneto, one of the spark plugs in each cylinder doesn't fire, and the overall power output drops very slightly. If there's a problem, however -- say, one of the plugs is lead-fouled -- the engine will start running *very* rough, since it's dragging a dead cylinder. All the best, DAvid - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] piston aircraft pre-flight engine runup
In "real life" flying of the Cessna 172/152/150, you run the engine up to 1700 rpm then check the health of each ignition system by switching off the left then right magnetos in turn and watch for a corresponding drop in rpm (typically 50-75 rpm). This drop in revs does not seem to be simulated in FG in any piston engined aircraft that I have tried. This is not a complaint, just an observation. Can this be simulated in FG (or am I just a silly old pedant). Kind regards, Drew - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Recording and playback
Hi all, I need to know what is the source file that handling the recording of the simulation. I have searched in the doxygen documentation, but I cannot find it. Could you help me, please? Luca - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] oil platform...
Syd&Sandy > Sent: 05 October 2007 01:04 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] oil platform... > > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:23:26 +0100 > "Vivian Meazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hmm. I have some difficulty with putting oil rigs in > locations where > > they aren't in RL. Realism is our watchword. > > Yes , I've tried Santa and the Ogel :) Santa isn't real? Who brings my prezzies at Xmas then? Ogel, don't you just love that trampling all over the palce in Multiplayer :-). > > After all, there are hundreds, if > > not thousands of the darned things all over the shallow > oceans for you > > to put one in the right place. > > > > Vivian > > > > OK ...consider it gone ... Now you see it ... Now you don't :-) Regards Vivian - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
