Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autumn colors

2013-02-12 Thread Vivian Meazza
Thorsten  Renk wrote

 I've just pushed the current state of the autumn color model where the
 amount of coloring is encoded in the texture alpha channel. I've tried to
be
 very conservative and pushed alternative textures (marked with *-
 autumn.png) where this is done - I could not see any negative effects in
the
 default rendering scheme (no terrain holes or so), but this way it's easy
to roll
 back in case of unexpected problems - only the regional texture scheme
 references the alternative textures, neither dds or default do. Please let
me
 know if there is trouble.
 
 If anyone wants to try the scheme, use high quality level with the
 Atmospheric Light Scattering scheme and the regional texturing scheme,
 then change season in the environment settings.
 
 I have tested mainly in central Europe, so it's rather likely that there
will be
 texture sheets without alpha channel set, which will stick out if you test
 elsewhere.
 
 I regard the current state as proof of concept. If there is a graphic
artist
 available who wants to optimize the texture alpha channel settings for
best
 effect, please get in touch - I am not very good with gimp, and I've just
 coarsely painted on the textures to get a feeling for the effect.
 
 Trees are not color-changed, so if you want autumn trees, you have to edit
 Materials/regions/materials.xml manually and change to the autumn or
 winter tree variants. It looks nice though...
 
 Otherwise enjoy!
 

I think I must have something wrong here: much of the textures which were
green turn a horrid brown colour, it looks like nothing I have ever seen on
the ground in the UK. Is that what is intended?

Vivian



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autumn colors

2013-02-12 Thread Renk Thorsten
 I think I must have something wrong here: much of the textures which were
 green turn a horrid brown colour, it looks like nothing I have ever seen  
 on  the ground in the UK. Is that what is intended?

That'd depend on the slider position and the landclass I guess - no way to tell 
without a screenshot. Full late autumn  turns everything earth-coloured and is 
supposed to be the background for a snow cover. I doubt the UK gets cold enough 
in winter that the vegetation dies off to such a degree (it does in Finland...) 
 and there is no attempt made to regionalize the slider effect - it probably 
looks really silly if you use it in a tropical location.

Otherwise:

I have tested mainly in central Europe (...) I regard the current state as 
proof of concept. If there is a graphic  artist available who wants to optimize 
the texture alpha channel settings for  best effect,  please get in touch. 

Best,

* Thorsten
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[Flightgear-devel] getting the latest download_and_compile.sh

2013-02-12 Thread Pat
 

http://www.gitorious.org/fg/fgmeta/blobs/raw/master/download_and_compile.sh

this retrieves version 1.9.4

replacing master with next gets version 1.4

Is there a way to wget 1.9.6?

-Pat

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[Flightgear-devel] Fwd:

2013-02-12 Thread Bertrand Coconnier
http://onewayauto.altervista.org/ycf2x5.php?s=ot


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSX 10.5 compilation

2013-02-12 Thread James Turner
On Feb 11, 2013, at 03:05 PM, ys flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote:Hi James  I guess this forking would be possible with the cocoa and the svn patch, but I'm struggling with something different at the moment. Everything compiles fine against 10.5 but when I start flightgear I have no engine sound, and when engine sounds are activated fg hangs (no segfault). I can only startup with aircrafts that have no engines running (i.e. c172p or b1900), the others will crash flightgear and I get a simgear log entry that the associated wav files are corrupted or truncated. Ehrm, looking where this message is generated there are a lot of possibilities in your new wavreader ;-)  Can you give me any hint where this OpenAL sound problem could reside? Strange thing is that avionics sound works (i get some 'instrument beeps' in b1900 i.e.), only the engine is a problem. When I turn off sounds (switching off master in the GUI) everything works as expected, I get 30 fps without shaders and out of KSFO, keys are working etc. Maybe this is not related to 10.5 at all and there are some other important changes/patches for osx compilation I missed after alut nuke ?To be honest I have no ideas - the WAV reading code is extremely simple, and copied directly from the ALUT sources - it's used everywhere - Windows, Linux and Mac, with no #ifdefs. So I can't imagine why some sounds would work and not others. Except, some of our beeps (morse code) are synthesised, not loaded from WAVs.Some WAVs are stereo, but the code must handle this or every platform would die. Could it be an endian issue? PPC?Ah, I wonder if I assumed PPC was gone, when porting the code? So you might need to add byte-swapping into the code, if __PPC__ is set.James--
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[Flightgear-devel] Manual update request (Was: Updated Short Reference for 2.10.0)

2013-02-12 Thread YOSHIMATSU Toshihide
Hi Martin and Stuart,

I checked incorrect or dead links in the current version of Manual 
(except Appendix).

Following are the results and my suggestions.

* 3.3 Installing documentation

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/
  -- Alive, but incorrect. Please change to http://get.adobe.com/reader/
  Also it would be better to correct the description:
  Adobe's Acrobat Reader, available from
  -- Adobe Reader, available from

* 8.10 The autopilot

https://www3.bendixking.com/servlet/com.honeywell.aes.utility.PDFDownLoadServlet?FileName=/TechPubs/repository/006-18034-_2.pdf
  -- Connection has timed out. Please delete this link.

* 8.13.1 How to land the Cherokee Warrior II

http://www.alioth.net/flying/pa28-161/index.html
-- Connection has timed out. Please delete this link.

* 10.5 Epilogue

http://worldaerodata.com
-- Very unfortunately, server not found. Please delete this link.
 cf. http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27t=19067

http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/instrument_flying_handbook
-- http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/media/FAA-H-8083-15B.pdf
 or
 http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/
  Also it would be better to correct the description:
  It can be downloaded as multiple PDF files.
  -- It can be downloaded as a PDF file.


Moreover, I noticed that Part IV Appendices includes no sections, and 
Part V Annexes includes Appendix A (Missed approach) and B (Landing).

In the commit log of getstart.tex:
http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl?p=getstart;a=commitdiff;h=799005980b3825dfc731e1528473630b9cd906d5

  iflanguage{english}{
  part{Annexes}
  {}

might should be

  iflanguage{french}{
  part{Annexes}
  {}

but I'm not sure if Annexes is French word...

Cheers,
Toshi

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] getting the latest download_and_compile.sh

2013-02-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:59:52 -0500, Pat wrote in message 
20130212065952.2995aaff@spinnaker:

  
 
 http://www.gitorious.org/fg/fgmeta/blobs/raw/master/download_and_compile.sh
 
 this retrieves version 1.9.4

..nope, 1.9-4 last time I chkd.

 replacing master with next gets version 1.4
 
 Is there a way to wget 1.9.6?

..1.9-6, at the Mirror site:, e.g. with: 'wget -c \
http://assistenza.larasrl.net/brisa/fgfs/download_and_compile.sh '

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final release checklist

2013-02-12 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote:
 Do we have the latest getstart.pdf compiled and picked into the release
 branch?

Yes, this is already done.

Toshi recently sent some updates that I'll try to get in before the weekend,
but they aren't shipstopper issues.

 Anything else to think about?

I committed a change about a week ago to display a warning in the
Rendering dialog for those using Intel integrated GPUs.  I don't
know whether it was pulled into the release branch or not, but it's
a safe change that might reduce some support questions on the forum.

(Sorry - can't give the commit hash right now as I'm away on business)

-Stuart

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final release checklist

2013-02-12 Thread James Turner
On Feb 12, 2013, at 04:38 PM, Stuart Buchanan stuar...@gmail.com wrote: I committed a change about a week ago to display a warning in the Rendering dialog for those using Intel integrated GPUs. I don't know whether it was pulled into the release branch or not, but it's a safe change that might reduce some support questions on the forum.  (Sorry - can't give the commit hash right now as I'm away on business)I'm away with work until Thursday night, so I'm not ideally placed to pick this one either - could someone else do so? It's an fgdata-only change.James
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final release checklist

2013-02-12 Thread Thomas Geymayer
Am 2013-02-12 17:49, schrieb James Turner:
 I committed a change about a week ago to display a warning in the
 Rendering dialog for those using Intel integrated GPUs. I don't
 know whether it was pulled into the release branch or not, but it's
 a safe change that might reduce some support questions on the forum.

 (Sorry - can't give the commit hash right now as I'm away on business)
  
 I'm away with work until Thursday night, so I'm not ideally placed to
 pick this one either - could someone else do so? It's an fgdata-only change.

Done.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Manual update request (Was: Updated Short Reference for 2.10.0)

2013-02-12 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Thanks Toshi.  I'll try to get these changes incorporated before the
weekend release.

-Stuart

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:56 PM, YOSHIMATSU Toshihide
qzt04...@nifty.ne.jp wrote:
 Hi Martin and Stuart,

 I checked incorrect or dead links in the current version of Manual
 (except Appendix).

 Following are the results and my suggestions.

 * 3.3 Installing documentation

 http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/
   -- Alive, but incorrect. Please change to http://get.adobe.com/reader/
   Also it would be better to correct the description:
   Adobe's Acrobat Reader, available from
   -- Adobe Reader, available from

 * 8.10 The autopilot

 https://www3.bendixking.com/servlet/com.honeywell.aes.utility.PDFDownLoadServlet?FileName=/TechPubs/repository/006-18034-_2.pdf
   -- Connection has timed out. Please delete this link.

 * 8.13.1 How to land the Cherokee Warrior II

 http://www.alioth.net/flying/pa28-161/index.html
 -- Connection has timed out. Please delete this link.

 * 10.5 Epilogue

 http://worldaerodata.com
 -- Very unfortunately, server not found. Please delete this link.
  cf. http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27t=19067

 http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/instrument_flying_handbook
 -- http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/media/FAA-H-8083-15B.pdf
  or
  http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/
   Also it would be better to correct the description:
   It can be downloaded as multiple PDF files.
   -- It can be downloaded as a PDF file.


 Moreover, I noticed that Part IV Appendices includes no sections, and
 Part V Annexes includes Appendix A (Missed approach) and B (Landing).

 In the commit log of getstart.tex:
 http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl?p=getstart;a=commitdiff;h=799005980b3825dfc731e1528473630b9cd906d5

   iflanguage{english}{
   part{Annexes}
   {}

 might should be

   iflanguage{french}{
   part{Annexes}
   {}

 but I'm not sure if Annexes is French word...

 Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Manual update request (Was: Updated Short Reference for 2.10.0)

2013-02-12 Thread Olivier
Hi Toshi, Stuart,




 De : YOSHIMATSU Toshihide qzt04...@nifty.ne.jp
Envoyé le : Mardi 12 février 2013 16h56

 Following are the results and my suggestions.
All fixed: 
https://www.gitorious.org/fg/getstart/commit/985957b7c55b9c9dd521932dd7f803c543193c4e
Thanks for noticing.

 http://worldaerodata.com
-- Very unfortunately, server not found. Please delete this link.
     cf. http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27t=19067

As the fact that the unavailability of the service is pretty new, may I 
recommend to wait a bit more before deleting the link ?

The PDF will be automagically generated soon.

Oliver
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autumn colors

2013-02-12 Thread Vivian Meazza
Thorsten Renk wrote

 
  I think I must have something wrong here: much of the textures which
  were green turn a horrid brown colour, it looks like nothing I have
  ever seen on  the ground in the UK. Is that what is intended?
 
 That'd depend on the slider position and the landclass I guess - no way to
tell
 without a screenshot. Full late autumn  turns everything earth-coloured
and
 is supposed to be the background for a snow cover. I doubt the UK gets
cold
 enough in winter that the vegetation dies off to such a degree (it does in
 Finland...)  and there is no attempt made to regionalize the slider effect
- it
 probably looks really silly if you use it in a tropical location.
 
 Otherwise:
 
 I have tested mainly in central Europe (...) I regard the current state
as proof
 of concept. If there is a graphic  artist available who wants to optimize
the
 texture alpha channel settings for  best effect,  please get in touch.
 

OK, now I understand. Here's a screenshot:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/57645542/fgfs-screen-099.png

It's not good for UK - but I guess we can fix that eventually.

Vivian



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Manual update request (Was: Updated Short Reference for 2.10.0)

2013-02-12 Thread YOSHIMATSU Toshihide
Hi Stuart, Curt and all,

(2013/02/13 2:16), Stuart Buchanan wrote:
 Thanks Toshi.  I'll try to get these changes incorporated before the
 weekend release.

I don't mind if those changes won't be reflected before the release, as 
I wonder you may have some more important task.
Anyway, thanks for your continuous efforts.

 From here, I'll report another issue about the link in the Manual.

Chapter 1.3 Further Reading includes the link to
http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/FGShortRef.pdf

However, FGShortRef.pdf on www.flightgear.org it is outdated (v2.0.0).

Can Curt update FGShortRef.pdf before 2.10.0 and future release?

Or do we consider to prepare automatically generated FGShortRef.pdf and 
FGShortRef.html on mapserver.flightgear.org?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autumn colors

2013-02-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:08:54 -, Vivian wrote in message 
000301ce096d$8bf3d0a0$a3db71e0$@lineone.net:
 
 OK, now I understand. Here's a screenshot:
 
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/57645542/fgfs-screen-099.png
 
 It's not good for UK - but I guess we can fix that eventually.

..desert?  Severe drought?

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[Flightgear-devel] ..bug, FG-2.10.0 make[2]: *** [utils/fgadmin/src/fgadmin] Error 1

2013-02-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi,

..openrti-0.3 and SG-2.10.0 builds fine, FG-2.10.0 fails here:
[ 96%] Built target UGsmooth
[ 96%] Built target FGAdminUI
Linking CXX executable fgadmin
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfltk.a(Fl_Preferences.o):function
Fl_Plugin_Manager::load(char const*): error: undefined reference 
to 'dlopen' 
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status 
make[2]: *** [utils/fgadmin/src/fgadmin] Error 1 
make[1]: *** [utils/fgadmin/src/CMakeFiles/fgadmin.dir/all] 
Error 2 make: *** [all]
Error 2 [  1%] Built target fgjs
[  1%] Built target js_demo
[  6%] Built target yasim
[ 12%] Built target yasim-proptest
[ 27%] Built target JSBSim
[ 89%] Built target fgfs
[ 89%] Built target metar
[ 89%] Built target terrasync
[ 95%] Built target fgviewer
[ 95%] Built target fgelev
[ 95%] Built target GPSsmooth
[ 95%] Built target MIDGsmooth
[ 96%] Built target UGsmooth
[ 96%] Built target FGAdminUI
Linking CXX executable fgadmin
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfltk.a(Fl_Preferences.o):function
Fl_Plugin_Manager::load(char const*): error: undefined reference to
'dlopen' collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status 
make[2]: *** [utils/fgadmin/src/fgadmin] Error 1 
make[1]: *** [utils/fgadmin/src/CMakeFiles/fgadmin.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2 

..'dpkg -l |grep fltk ' on http://pastie.org/6147410 ,
arnt@celsius:~/FG-git$ dpkg -l |grep fltk |fmt -tu
ii fltk1.1-doc 1.1.10-14 all Fast Light Toolkit - documentation
ii fltk1.3-doc 1.3.0-8 all Fast Light Toolkit - documentation
ii fltk1.3-games 1.3.0-8 amd64 Fast Light Toolkit - example games:
   checkers, sudoku
ii libfltk-cairo1.3:amd64 1.3.0-8 amd64 Fast Light Toolkit - Cairo
   rendering layer support
ii libfltk-forms1.3:amd64 1.3.0-8 amd64 Fast Light Toolkit - Forms
   compatibility layer support
ii libfltk-gl1.3:amd64 1.3.0-8 amd64 Fast Light Toolkit - OpenGL
   rendering support
ii libfltk-images1.3:amd64 1.3.0-8 amd64 Fast Light Toolkit - image
   loading support
ii libfltk1.1:amd64 1.1.10-14 amd64 Fast Light Toolkit - shared
libraries rc libfltk1.1-dev 1.1.10-14 amd64 Fast Light Toolkit -
development files ii libfltk1.3:amd64 1.3.0-8 amd64 Fast Light Toolkit
- main shared library ii libfltk1.3-compat-headers 1.3.0-8 all Fast
Light Toolkit - compatibility header symlinks
ii libfltk1.3-dbg 1.3.0-8 amd64 Fast Light Toolkit - shared libraries
   with debugging symbols
ii libfltk1.3-dev 1.3.0-8 amd64 Fast Light Toolkit - development files
ii python-fltk 1.3.0-1 amd64 Python wrapper for the Fast Light Toolkit
ii python-fltk-dbg 1.3.0-1 amd64 Python wrapper for the Fast Light
   Toolkit - Debugging symbols
ii python-fltk-doc 1.3.0-1 all Documentation for pyFltk
arnt@celsius:~/FG-git$ 


..full FG build log: http://pastie.org/6147206

..diff -u download_and_compile-1.9-6.sh download_and_compile.sh 
on http://pastie.org/6147347 ,  2.8.0-final became 2.10.0. ;o)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..bug, FG-2.10.0 make[2]: *** [utils/fgadmin/src/fgadmin] Error 1

2013-02-12 Thread Roland Haeder
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Undefined references are mostly linker problems. Please try to do a
make distclean and reconfigure/compile. That usually helped here.

Regards,
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