Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error checking out CVS version of OpenSceneGraph
Csaba, I am the one who posted the original question and I want to say that you did help me and I'm just mighty glad that I have all of you on this mailing list to answer my questions. I would have gotten nowhere without it. :) I would rather get a reply with a little chastising than to get no response at all. Randy Green - Original Message - From: Csaba Halász Date: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:15 pm Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error checking out CVS version of OpenSceneGraph To: FlightGear developers discussions > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:21 PM, leee > wrote:> > > Sure, people can be lazy _and_ stupid, but I can't see that > > attacking them for being so is the best way to do anything about > > it. > > In case you missed it, I *have* provided the relevant > information first. > I don't think I can be rightly accused of being unhelpful, although > people do try from time to time :) > > Anyway, if I have offended him, I apologize as it was not my intent. > > -- > Csaba/Jester > > - > - > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports > 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - > and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new > with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error checking out CVS version of OpenSceneGraph
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Csaba Halász wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:21 PM, leee wrote: > > > > Sure, people can be lazy _and_ stupid, but I can't see that > > attacking them for being so is the best way to do anything about > > it. > > In case you missed it, I *have* provided the relevant information first. > I don't think I can be rightly accused of being unhelpful, although > people do try from time to time :) > > Anyway, if I have offended him, I apologize as it was not my intent. > Yeah, I think we are dicing words pretty finely here with large reactions to small bumps. Generally if you want to download and install some software "XYZ", it works best to find the main web page for "XYZ" and follow the instructions there. But with goofy search engines sometimes spewing unpredictable results and archiving the entire history of the internet, I could see a person stumbling onto old info and getting confused if they haven't done much of this software building stuff. If you are running a linux distribution, often you can find a prepackaged version of whatever you are looking for and that will save you a ton of time. But be a little careful, because the packaged version of XYZ often can be dated and not the very latest version. Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error checking out CVS version of OpenSceneGraph
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:21 PM, leee wrote: > > Sure, people can be lazy _and_ stupid, but I can't see that > attacking them for being so is the best way to do anything about > it. In case you missed it, I *have* provided the relevant information first. I don't think I can be rightly accused of being unhelpful, although people do try from time to time :) Anyway, if I have offended him, I apologize as it was not my intent. -- Csaba/Jester -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error checking out CVS version of OpenSceneGraph
I just want to make sure if we (flightgear) have some outdated documentation that gets identified and fixed. If someone managed to dredge up some really old information from some other site, there's not much we can do about that. Curt. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:21 AM, leee wrote: > Although getting osg from cvs rang a bell with me, I'm not sure if > those commands were ever on one of the FG sites: they relate back > to when OSG was still hosted on sourceforge, as the link below > shows... > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/openscenegraph/develop > > However, OSG moved from sourceforge to its own site in 2003. OSG > was first discussed here during early August 2003, but I'm not sure > if that was before or after OSG had moved from sourceforge to > openscenegraph.org. > > In any case, Mathias Fröhlich didn't announce his work in porting it > until late October 2006, so it's difficult to imagine why there > would have been instructions on the FG sites for getting the 2003 > sourceforge osg vintage when it would have already been hosted at > openscenegraph.org for more than three years. > > I should apologise for suggesting that FG was providing faulty > instructions, but I still think that the 'note' was unnecessary as > all it achieved was to aggressively suggest that the poster was > lazy or stupid. > > Sure, people can be lazy _and_ stupid, but I can't see that > attacking them for being so is the best way to do anything about > it. > > LeeE > > > On Friday 11 Sep 2009, Curtis Olson wrote: > > Where are the misleading instructions located? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Curt. > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:39 AM, leee wrote: > > > On Thursday 10 Sep 2009, Csaba Halász wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Randall Green > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > These are the instructions for checking out CVS OSG that > > > > > are given: > > > > > > > > > > cvs > > > > > -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cv > > > > >sroo t/openscenegraph login > > > > > > > > > > cvs -z3 > > > > > -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cv > > > > >sroo t/openscenegraph co -P modulename > > > > > > > > > > What is the modulename? I tried different things but > > > > > nothing works. > > > > > > > > OSG has moved to SVN. Use this command: > > > > svn co > > > > http://www.openscenegraph.org/svn/osg/OpenSceneGraph/trunk > > > > OpenSceneGraph > > > > > > > > Note: it would have taken just a minute to go to the OSG web > > > > site and find this information for yourself. > > > > > > I think your 'note' is a little unfair: we should not provide > > > instructions that don't work and then tell people who try to > > > follow those instructions that they should have figured out the > > > correct instructions for themselves. > > > > > > LeeE > > > -- > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error checking out CVS version of OpenSceneGraph
Although getting osg from cvs rang a bell with me, I'm not sure if those commands were ever on one of the FG sites: they relate back to when OSG was still hosted on sourceforge, as the link below shows... http://sourceforge.net/projects/openscenegraph/develop However, OSG moved from sourceforge to its own site in 2003. OSG was first discussed here during early August 2003, but I'm not sure if that was before or after OSG had moved from sourceforge to openscenegraph.org. In any case, Mathias Fröhlich didn't announce his work in porting it until late October 2006, so it's difficult to imagine why there would have been instructions on the FG sites for getting the 2003 sourceforge osg vintage when it would have already been hosted at openscenegraph.org for more than three years. I should apologise for suggesting that FG was providing faulty instructions, but I still think that the 'note' was unnecessary as all it achieved was to aggressively suggest that the poster was lazy or stupid. Sure, people can be lazy _and_ stupid, but I can't see that attacking them for being so is the best way to do anything about it. LeeE On Friday 11 Sep 2009, Curtis Olson wrote: > Where are the misleading instructions located? > > Thanks, > > Curt. > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:39 AM, leee wrote: > > On Thursday 10 Sep 2009, Csaba Halász wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Randall Green > > > > wrote: > > > > These are the instructions for checking out CVS OSG that > > > > are given: > > > > > > > > cvs > > > > -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cv > > > >sroo t/openscenegraph login > > > > > > > > cvs -z3 > > > > -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cv > > > >sroo t/openscenegraph co -P modulename > > > > > > > > What is the modulename? I tried different things but > > > > nothing works. > > > > > > OSG has moved to SVN. Use this command: > > > svn co > > > http://www.openscenegraph.org/svn/osg/OpenSceneGraph/trunk > > > OpenSceneGraph > > > > > > Note: it would have taken just a minute to go to the OSG web > > > site and find this information for yourself. > > > > I think your 'note' is a little unfair: we should not provide > > instructions that don't work and then tell people who try to > > follow those instructions that they should have figured out the > > correct instructions for themselves. > > > > LeeE -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error checking out CVS version of OpenSceneGraph
Where are the misleading instructions located? Thanks, Curt. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:39 AM, leee wrote: > On Thursday 10 Sep 2009, Csaba Halász wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Randall Green > wrote: > > > These are the instructions for checking out CVS OSG that are > > > given: > > > > > > cvs > > > -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroo > > >t/openscenegraph login > > > > > > cvs -z3 > > > -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroo > > >t/openscenegraph co -P modulename > > > > > > What is the modulename? I tried different things but nothing > > > works. > > > > OSG has moved to SVN. Use this command: > > svn co http://www.openscenegraph.org/svn/osg/OpenSceneGraph/trunk > > OpenSceneGraph > > > > Note: it would have taken just a minute to go to the OSG web site > > and find this information for yourself. > > I think your 'note' is a little unfair: we should not provide > instructions that don't work and then tell people who try to follow > those instructions that they should have figured out the correct > instructions for themselves. > > LeeE > > > -- > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error checking out CVS version of OpenSceneGraph
On Thursday 10 Sep 2009, Csaba Halász wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Randall Green wrote: > > These are the instructions for checking out CVS OSG that are > > given: > > > > cvs > > -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroo > >t/openscenegraph login > > > > cvs -z3 > > -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroo > >t/openscenegraph co -P modulename > > > > What is the modulename? I tried different things but nothing > > works. > > OSG has moved to SVN. Use this command: > svn co http://www.openscenegraph.org/svn/osg/OpenSceneGraph/trunk > OpenSceneGraph > > Note: it would have taken just a minute to go to the OSG web site > and find this information for yourself. I think your 'note' is a little unfair: we should not provide instructions that don't work and then tell people who try to follow those instructions that they should have figured out the correct instructions for themselves. LeeE -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error checking out CVS version of OpenSceneGraph
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Randall Green wrote: > These are the instructions for checking out CVS OSG that are given: > > cvs > -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/openscenegraph > login > > cvs -z3 > -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/openscenegraph > co -P modulename > > What is the modulename? I tried different things but nothing works. OSG has moved to SVN. Use this command: svn co http://www.openscenegraph.org/svn/osg/OpenSceneGraph/trunk OpenSceneGraph Note: it would have taken just a minute to go to the OSG web site and find this information for yourself. -- Csaba/Jester -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Error checking out CVS version of OpenSceneGraph
These are the instructions for checking out CVS OSG that are given: cvs -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/openscenegraph login cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/openscenegraph co -P modulename What is the modulename? I tried different things but nothing works. Thanks, Randy Green -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
