Re: [Flightgear-devel] NaN-reports and possible cause

2009-06-23 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi,


 I got a similar crash after observing wildly jumping AI Aircraft. I'm pretty 
 sure the AI Traffic system is the culprit, but haven't really an idea why 
 it's misbehaving. 

Also, considering the fact that the AI Traffic system is considered to be 
depricated, I'm not sure how mich time I'm willing to invest in fixing this 
proble, as opposed to disabling it all together and start to move it's 
remaining functionality into the AI Traffic Manager system.
As I wrote- I guess the error is somewhere in the ground code, the AI Ballistic 
Objects like the wingmen.demo shows the same behaviour- aircrafts are jumping. 
But it sounds like a good idea to move AI Traffic into Manager system! 
Regards
HHS
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[Flightgear-devel] NaN-reports and possible cause

2009-06-22 Thread Heiko Schulz

Hi,

I tried to follow the bughunting of the NaN-reports which freezes FGFS time to 
time.
With a fresh setup of flightgear using Frederic's binaries and the datas of 
05/12/2009 I had again the NaN-reports.
The interesting thing was that it occured only at spots around the world with 
lat 50.0: KSFO, KLAX, EDDS, LSZH and others. All places more north I hadn't 
see anything like that.
The next thing I tried was to disable AI-Interactive traffic (traffic manager) 
- I had still the reports.
But disabling AI-Traffic in preferences.xml helped!
 As I already mentioned here on the list was that those AI-Traffic (not 
AI-Interactive traffic) is jumping- it seems to me that this broken code behind 
is the cause of those NaN-reports.
Maybe already known, but I hope this is helpfull to get rid of it!
Kind Regards
HHSstill in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html
But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html



  

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] NaN-reports and possible cause

2009-06-22 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Heiko,

On Monday 22 June 2009 14:46:22 Heiko Schulz wrote:
 Hi,

 I tried to follow the bughunting of the NaN-reports which freezes FGFS time
 to time. With a fresh setup of flightgear using Frederic's binaries and the
 datas of 05/12/2009 I had again the NaN-reports. The interesting thing was
 that it occured only at spots around the world with lat 50.0: KSFO, KLAX,
 EDDS, LSZH and others. All places more north I hadn't see anything like
 that. The next thing I tried was to disable AI-Interactive traffic (traffic
 manager) - I had still the reports. But disabling AI-Traffic in
 preferences.xml helped!
  As I already mentioned here on the list was that those AI-Traffic (not
 AI-Interactive traffic) is jumping- it seems to me that this broken code
 behind is the cause of those NaN-reports. Maybe already known, but I hope
 this is helpfull to get rid of it! 

I've just gotten to the same conclusion, except for the lat  50 deg north. 
Last week, after a short trip between EHAM and EHGG (lat =52 30 or 
thereabouts), I got a similar crash after observing wildly jumping AI 
Aircraft. I'm pretty sure the AI Traffic system is the culprit, but haven't 
really an idea why it's misbehaving. 

Also, considering the fact that the AI Traffic system is considered to be 
depricated, I'm not sure how mich time I'm willing to invest in fixing this 
proble, as opposed to disabling it all together and start to move it's 
remaining functionality into the AI Traffic Manager system.

Cheers,
Durk

 Kind Regards
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 But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html





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