Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus, luxus, box...

[Kathy Forer]

Well, thanks Patricia. That helps me get through the next slog.

Though I'm cowed, sheepish and reluctant to say anything at all now, 
I'll plunge ahead recklessly if only because thank goodness that is 
an option. I know I'm not a flux artist, but I'm fairy sincere; and 
even if it comes off lacking in individuality at times, or chatty at 
others, my transient points of view, as well as all others' here are 
worth while for the most part.

Oh that my alter ego were on line and ready to go on ebay! like Zoe, 
then I'd really know how to answer.
Or apparently my soft friend: The Confession of a Godless Renegade 

http://www.interlog.com/~halpen/reviews/confession-of-a-godless-renegade-02-17-97.html

At the risk of making enemies, I venture to say that as you, Dave, 
may have certain people whose posts you never both with, why don't 
you just add me to that list. Personally, I've always appreciated and 
enjoyed ddyment's posts, but find his repetitive passive/aggressive 
self-abasement/put downs a bit irksome.

Now is that a flame or a flame put out? If fighting fire with fire is 
useless, I mean to more throw water on it. Though I could just while 
away back in hiding and let the cool air snuff it out. The godless 
confessions are just too hot to pass up though, heck I just make 
elephants, and necessitates my risking maximum overexposure. Go tell 
Rod, Patricia, Sol, Terrence, Allen, Ann, Best Poet, Carol, Reed, 
Roger, Heiko, Myke, narvis & ...pez, what you told me. Obviously it's 
not the square inch quantity that bothers you. Perhaps it's because 
Steve Allen DID do a biography of me, years ago, long ago and far 
away, and besides the wrench is dead, or gone.

The computer box photos would also be unearthings of who we are, 
showing what we do with this particular continuum.

Kathy
That's it for a few days, bye...

Re: FLUXLIST: Six sides, six numbers

[Patricia]

I just can't help but say...

your die was unsixed.

PK

Ken Friedman wrote:

> Dear Alan,
>
> The die should have had six numbers,
> one for each side.
>
> If there was only one number, well ...
> I'm tempted to say that
> your die was "unfixed."
>
> Ken
>
> --

FLUXLIST: Six sides, six numbers

[Ken Friedman]

Dear Alan,

The die should have had six numbers,
one for each side.

If there was only one number, well ...
I'm tempted to say that
your die was "unfixed."

Ken

--

FLUXLIST: Fwd: Cyber Art Bank in Korea....

[allen bukoff]

in the email recently

>From: "mthong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Cyber Art Bank in Korea
>Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:11:01 KST
>
>In South Korea,Cyber Art Bank brings you the pleasure and satisfaction of 
>having, in your home, copies of the most beautiful paintings of the Great 
>Masters of the world.
>
>In South Korea,Cyber Art Bank has15 years experience more in fine art 
>reproduction on canvas, hand-maded retouch. 1200 subjects immediately 
>available 1-300 copies either with or without ready-made frame. No minimum 
>order, catalogue on request.
>
>Size of the Canvas   , Price
>
>(80  X 140cm = 90.48 US $)
>(60  X 100cm = 57.14 US $)
>(50  X  70 cm = 33.33 US $)
>(40  X  50 cm = 23.80 US $)
>(30  X  40 cm = 19.05 US $)
>(18  X  24 cm =  9.52 US $)
>
>Welcome OME order.
>On consfruction on Homepage.
>
>Tel: 82. 02. 538. 2862
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tae Hong ,Min)
>Homepage: www.cyberartbank.co.kr
>
>Coming Soon our English Version.!
>==
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>Áö±¸ÃÌ ÇÑ±Û °Ë»ö¼­ºñ½º Daum FIREBALL
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Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus, luxus, box...

[Patricia]

Kathy:

I believe Don Boyd's is the wonderful, small clay fluxus smile - he sent
one to me to scan for a stamp.

BTW, write on, please.  You're very good at it, very eloquent at your
spontaneity , and I'm enjoying reading you catch up from your soujourn
away, whilst I go back and forth at stuff that ain't play.

Best,
Patricia




Kathy Forer wrote:

> >And what is fluxish with them, most fluxish piece
>
> I  return still to the fluxbox home page
> . It's really well
> done in every way. More rare spices from the east for Owen and Sol.
> What a lot of work to do, but all well worth it. I've moved the box
> to my computer table, next to the rocks.
>
> Bernice Kew's Flash animation is extraordinary! worth going back to,
> freshly new each time.
>
> Is there such a thing as the fluxus smile? I can't find Don Boyd's in
> the fluxbox, --is it in there?-- but it's related to Bernice's aztec
> FLUX.

Re: FLUXLIST: a soft suggestion

[Kathy Forer]

At 12:38 AM -0400 6/14/00, ddyment wrote:
>not trying to be an asshole, honestly.

You missed it, I just posted two more!
gsys

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus, luxus, box...

[Kathy Forer]

>And what is fluxish with them, most fluxish piece

I  return still to the fluxbox home page 
. It's really well 
done in every way. More rare spices from the east for Owen and Sol. 
What a lot of work to do, but all well worth it. I've moved the box 
to my computer table, next to the rocks.

Bernice Kew's Flash animation is extraordinary! worth going back to, 
freshly new each time.

Is there such a thing as the fluxus smile? I can't find Don Boyd's in 
the fluxbox, --is it in there?-- but it's related to Bernice's aztec 
FLUX.

Re: FLUXLIST: BOX

[Kathy Forer]

At 7:56 PM +0200 6/8/00, alan bowman wrote:
>Did I get the biggest elephant?
>12.8 cm X 8.2 cm X 2cm

That's the mammoth. ..))

>Kathy is it ok to drop it in water or will it dissolve like syd barrets
>effervescing elephant?
>___

Do you have a picture?

They probably won't dissolve, but they do break really well. If you 
put one on a mantelpiece, you can just swipe your arm across the top 
and down the elephant will crash, to be lost with the lions and 
others. But if you save the pieces I'll glue them together. Unless 
you do a really good job and they're dust. it's all in the motion; 
like carving stone, they have to ping just right.

The elephants are kiln fired and can stand water for a good long 
while, though as they're only bisque, not vitreous, they may not 
survive under seawater without olive oil.

I looked up syd barret, there's survey about him/his music. I just 
don't know much about either, though recall neighbors breaking 
up/making up to Pink Floyd one winter, all winter, at the top of the 
volume control. But though I don't have their records, I'll be happy 
to listen to them courtesy the Internet, when otherwise I probably 
would not at all.

I propose that instead of further considering this "Forer elephant*" 
survey that  be 
substituted. I can't see how a survey like this can be taken as 
anything but a parody, yet feel that you, Alan, surrounded by 
children as you were, didn't mean it that way. Though i went so far 
as to photograph the elephants wholesale, en masse and individually, 
in B&W Tri-X pushed 1/2 or a full stop, I quite forget which, so the 
film sits undeveloped. I never thought to measure or weigh them; had 
I done that I might have obviated the need to wrap and mail them!

It's difficult enough when I continue to make things which remain 
essentially tchotchkes even when they're considerably larger in size. 
"The quest for immateriality of substance is often mistaken for 
anti-sensualism and thus disregarded."

And I'll happily continue to drift quietly into the elephantine and 
hairy ozone. Kathy

>Freeformfreakoutorganisation FluxlistboxelephantbyK.Forer Survey
>
>Name
>___
>
>Address (approximate) 
>___
>
>Dimensions of elephant
>(L:, B + H at furthest points in cm) 
>___
>
>Capacity in ml   (if appropriate)
>
>Weight in g.
>
>___
>
>best wishes
>
>happy al
>
>Could be the new F.F.F.O publication if there's enough responses

FLUXLIST: a soft suggestion

[ddyment]

perhaps a new forum is required when one person posts more than five
messages in a day (or, as the case may be, an hour).

get a room, as they say (a chat room).

not trying to be an asshole, honestly.

d

FLUXLIST: INFORMATION FOR THE OTHER SIDES OF HERE

[mint77]

Title: INFORMATION FOR THE OTHER SIDES OF HERE




USE EBAY.COM FOR PHYSICAL AS WELL AS PSYCHIC ADMISSION TO
A PARTICIPATORY EXPOSURE #0001:
"INFORMATION FOR THE OTHER SIDES OF HERE"

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=357792708

BID FOR 1 OF 12 PASSWORDS THAT WILL ALLOW ACCESS TO A SPECIFIED WEBPAGE
WHERE YOU WILL FIND A POSTCARD TO BE PRINTED OUT AND USED FOR ENTRANCE TO THIS
EXPOSURE.

USE MP3.COM AS SERVER TO HEAR AUDIO FROM EXPOSURE #0001:
http://www.mp3.com/hvc


LOCATION:
HARLEM VISION CENTER - NYC
JUNE 24, 2000 7-10PM 
DIRECTIONS GIVEN TO 12 LUCKY BIDDERS

SYNOPSIS:
8-12 participants stand on a blue plastic canvas in a semi-darkened room.
Floodlights turn on, bright as hell and synchronous with Techno-music
generated from an Apple I-Book. The participants dance, kick balloons around
and swig beer. The music stops intermittently along with a return to
semi-darkness whereupon the participants "fix" themselves perfectly still,
caught in mid-motion. A photographer then engages the participants with a
Polaroid camera and meticulously documents the situation as if it is a crime
scene. Polaroids fall out of the camera and onto the floor whereupon the
whole sequence of events repeats itself. Participants dance upon the
increasing accumulation of their own images.

NOTE:
On every third completion of the above sequence a selected participant is
given instructions via a CD-Walkman that must be followed outside the
boundaries of the blue plastic canvas.

MORE INFO:
http://www.restlessculture.net/hvc
http://www.restlessculture.net/hvc
http://www.restlessculture.net/hvc
http://www.restlessculture.net/hvc
http://www.restlessculture.net/hvc



 

FLUXLIST: 1 fluxlist project

[Kathy Forer]

It's been done before --so what! you say--  but snapshots or other 
effigies/images of one's computer/shrine/altar/workplace would 
_compile_ nicely.

http://kforer.com/cgi-bin/dbman/db.cgi?db=default&uid=default&view_records=1&ID=*&nh=15&mh=1
George, how did you take this photograph so you got the screen without flicker?



It's midnight!!!  Kathy (I _finally_ figured out why lovely music's 
been wafting through my house for the past few days for about 5 
minutes, it seemed, then off. When the storm knocked out the 
electricity --first flicker's a warning, perhaps a branch or squirrel 
:.( on a power line, second flicker means there's a problem and the 
third time takes the electricity down finally as it's rerouted around 
the problem spot-- it reset my batteryless clock radio.)

Re: FLUXLIST: Trading art....

[Kathy Forer]

*"Forer elephant" is scary, sounds like cart before the horse. White 
elephant, stylishly outmoded: though perhaps that was one of my other 
reasons for picking this unknown animal. Also I once carved an Ivory 
soap elephant for my godmother, the first 'sculpture' I ever gave 
away to anyone. It was in her bathroom cabinet for ages. I haven't 
seen it for a while though and must ask why her hand appears so clean.


Heiko Recktenwald wrote:
>Maybe this is indeed listish. Like trading Miles tapes over the net.
>I like this Forer elephant, allreadya mentioned.
>
>Same technic like Anns hazard game..is this a popular game in the US ?
>Putting things into clay ? Or was it Anns or Karens invention ?
>
>History..
>
>H.

Re: FLUXLIST: the fluxsilence/fluxmonster

[Kathy Forer]

You can run, but you cannot hide: my cable modem was offline for 3 
days so I tried to take the time as well, virtual vacation. 
Unfortunately something happened that wasn't supposed to, or 
something didn't happen which would have been nice if it did happen, 
and I spent the weekend chez moi, the heat and the rain. So I'm 
finally back to mediating with all this stuff.

Missed you all, wasabi and syrup.

Re: FLUXLIST: journal of mundane behavior

[Kathy Forer]

At 11:30 AM -0400 6/13/00, allen bukoff wrote:
>The Mundane Seeks Equal Time With the Weird and the Deviant
>New York Times, Saturday, May 20, 2000
>"Thank Tank" column in Arts & Ideas section, page A19
>by Emily Eakin

>Rather than studying pornography stars or doomsday cults, they say, 
>why not examine office workers or a suburban Sunday school?

>Imagine a Martian anthropologist coming to Earth, reading the 
>tabloids, watching a couple of talk shows and taking in a few 
>movies. He might well return to his planet persuaded that humans 
>beings are a freak race beset by murder, rape, incest, kinky sex and 
>the like.

>  "Although there are many deviance journals to explicitly analyze 
>socially unusual behavior," he lamented, "there is no Journal of 
>Mundane Behavior to explicitly analyze conformity."

This sounds like the thoughts of my college art professor, Norman 
Daly, creator of the Civilization of Llhuros.
Daly, Norman and Beauvais Lyons. "The Civilization of 
Llhuros: The First Multimedia Exhibition in the Genre of 
Archaeological Fiction." Leonardo. 24.3 (1991): 265-271.
(Does anyone have this??)
A man way before, or just plain out of his time, Norman created 
artifacts of this imaginary civilization, then asked us to somehow 
put them in context. He also talked of the mundane nature of some of 
the best art, saying to aspire to be good was better than to want to 
be great. To be as good as can be. But part of the mundane, not to 
push it in contorted ways; in support he cited Matisse and Cezanne. 
Norman, the most good teacher there was, ...though spooky at times.

Oh no. Maybe it was Friedl Dzubas who spoke of the mundane. Or 
perhaps they both did. Does anyone else know this? I'd say nothing at 
this point but I think it was Norman, but am just hedging my bets.

Anyway, my point is that the mundane does not necessarily embrace 
conformity. And in accord with a brilliant statement by ann klefstad 
5/21/00:
>What force is causing people--kids and
>adults--to be bored with the infinite range of sensory and abstract experience
>that their embodiment offers? The world is large, large as it's ever 
>been. Only
>the obedient, I think, are ever bored

One can be everyday (ah the existential connection at last) without 
being obedient.

Kathy F.

Re: FLUXLIST: help needed

[Kathy Forer]

At 10:21 PM +0200 6/13/00, alan bowman wrote:
>why do the animated gifs get lost or mixed up on my site?
>they either don't appear or as in the case of the most recent addition cause
>the one that seems to be lost, to appear where the new ones are!!!

Send a URL and we?/I/U! can check out the source for you.

>sorry for the unfluxness of this post but i thought that amongst the wealth
>of intelligence plugged into the list, some one might have the clue that i
>haven't got!

but it is fluxlistness. Probably many are involved in just this sort 
of thing. Why else would you sit tethered to a box all day? okay, 
there are many other computer related jobs or practices, but given 
the nature of visual and aural art and the nature of technology, 2+2<5

I've been struggling with a perl/javascript problem for nigh on 2 
weeks now.

How do I get the js generated submit button to work from another frame?
I get a little closer all the time, but still haven't solved it.

Re: FLUXLIST: Funny ads

[Patricia]

At 05:06 PM 06/13/2000 -0500, you wrote:
The syrup ads were a hoot.
I downloaded one of my favorite commericals - "Herding Cats"
and killed a few minutes laughing hysterically.

It's about a 7 mb .mpg download

http://www.e-d-s.com/about_eds/homepage/superbowl.shtml

Yep, it's been a dull day and far too nice out to be inside.

Best,
PK

>Click on the below link if you want to read a very silly series of ads for
>fictious brands of maple syrup. 
>
>http://www.timmybighands.com/ads/ad_1.asp
>
>I laughed so much that I cried (it's been a dull day).
>
>-Josh Ronsen
>http://www.nd.org/jronsen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

FLUXLIST: Funny syrup

[Ronsen, Josh]

Click on the below link if you want to read a very silly series of ads for
fictious brands of maple syrup. 

http://www.timmybighands.com/ads/ad_1.asp

I laughed so much that I cried (it's been a dull day).

-Josh Ronsen
http://www.nd.org/jronsen

Re: FLUXLIST: the fluxsilence/fluxmonster

[allen bukoff]

Yes.  FLUXLIST went through some sort of warp over the weekend (see note 
from Jon Van Oast, our courageous and generous list hoster).  Aftermath is 
not clear.  I reposted a couple of emails today that I had sent over the 
weekend but that have failed to show up.  Those original emails may be out 
there still, still waiting to get through, and if they do then we will have 
to see them, again.  To repost or wait...that is the question.


>From: jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: FLUXLIST erratic
>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:29:43 -0700 (PDT)
>Organization: UnderWorld Industries
>X-URL: http://scribble.com/jon.html
>
>the network scribble is on was down all weekend.  in fact, *all* of
>uswest dsl in the city was.  not a pretty sight.  think things are good
>now.  email should start flowing.  was getting held, but shouldnt have
>bounced, since most servers default to 5 days before they bounce.
>
>gak.
>_
>NOW USE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Y2Lame. http://scribble.com/jon.html
> "Daylight savings?!  Wow, 25 hours of Taco Bell!"  -- 6rady



>Alan,
>I believe George Free was checking into this, as I sent a rather
>HUGE belabored factfinding post on the fluxstamp project TWICE on
>Sunday, and there was a monster lurking somewhere who dipped my
>message in wasabi and ate it fiendishly, so it never got posted -
>only to the parties I cc'd.I decided that we had been voted
>unfluxuslike from the ebay box performance vote that Allen did
>and had ceased to exist, and  perhaps when I emailed Allen via
>fluxlist inquiring about this matter this a.m. he himself had
>been eaten by the green fluxwasabi monster.  Roger had the same
>problem, I believe only his fluxmonster was dipping his messages
>in salsa verde and washing them down with winkles.
>
>I have no idea.  I did receive Don's post and a couple today, so
>I was assuming
>
>But all of a sudden I have a huge craving for sushiand it's
>all so confusingI think it's some sort of fluxwithdrawals,
>this sushi craving..
>
>Beware the fluxmonster,
>Be very, very afraid,
>; <>
>PK

Re: FLUXLIST: Trading art....

[ann klefstad]

no it's not a popular game here--I made it up. I think. It could have been
,however, impressed into my malleable brain by some large experiential
thumb. Could've happened.

AK

Heiko Recktenwald wrote:

> Maybe this is indeed listish. Like trading Miles tapes over the net.
> I like this Forer elephant, allreadya mentioned.
>
> Same technic like Anns hazard game..is this a popular game in the US ?
> Putting things into clay ? Or was it Anns or Karens invention ?
>
> History..
>
> H.

FLUXLIST: the fluxsilence/fluxmonster

[Patricia]

Alan,

I believe George Free was checking into this, as I sent a rather
HUGE belabored factfinding post on the fluxstamp project TWICE on
Sunday, and there was a monster lurking somewhere who dipped my
message in wasabi and ate it fiendishly, so it never got posted -
only to the parties I cc'd.I decided that we had been voted
unfluxuslike from the ebay box performance vote that Allen did
and had ceased to exist, and  perhaps when I emailed Allen via
fluxlist inquiring about this matter this a.m. he himself had
been eaten by the green fluxwasabi monster.  Roger had the same
problem, I believe only his fluxmonster was dipping his messages
in salsa verde and washing them down with winkles.

I have no idea.  I did receive Don's post and a couple today, so
I was assuming

But all of a sudden I have a huge craving for sushiand it's
all so confusingI think it's some sort of fluxwithdrawals,
this sushi craving..

Beware the fluxmonster,
Be very, very afraid,
; <>
PK

FLUXLIST: (email alterations, help needed, new web page, confusion over josh, josh and robert, FLUXLIST BOX i and ii)

[alan bowman]

this is a repost of stuff ive (obviously) already sent, but ubsure if it
reached the list.  i certainly didn't see it.

in reverse order:  (email alterations, help needed,  new web page,
confusion over josh, josh and robert, FLUXLIST BOX i and ii)

dear all,

i've just finished the "electronic mail alterations" documentation second
edition.

due to me forgetting to put a deadline on the original mail, pieces are
slowly drifting in still.

due to one of my usual spectacular shows of ineptitude, a printer (ahem!
person using the printer, rather) error, the second edition has some "bonus
pages" on which i've stuck some of my texts and a few odds and sods chosen
more or less at random from my files, as well as a few scribblings and
perhaps a bit of collage.

it will of course be the usual badly produced and photocopied nonsense but
if anyone wants a copy,
send a postal address and a good reason to me

al




why do the animated gifs get lost or mixed up on my site?
they either don't appear or as in the case of the most recent addition cause
the one that seems to be lost, to appear where the new ones are!!!

sorry for the unfluxness of this post but i thought that amongst the wealth
of intelligence plugged into the list, some one might have the clue that i
haven't got!

alan
there's some new images on my rather shambolic attempt at a web site

there based on a scan of the little "put your rubbish in the bin" symbol you
get on food packets etc.

they're at

http://space.tin.it/clubnet/abowman/freeformfreakoutorganisation11.htm


i thought they were nice, meaningless, but nice   /\
OO
   °
   -

i've said it before and i'll say it again

josh ronsen!  share some more stuff with us all(all)

(thanks for the latest additions to my little j.r. archive!))

i am a buffoon!!!


it was robert fontenot who sent me the stuff.

i apologise to robert for getting him confused with josh


i apologise with josh for getting him confused with robert

i have not met either.

robert !

thanks for the stuff!!  again, quite wonderful!!!

josh - i'm busy working on the 2nd edition of the "please alter this e-mail"
thing - thanks for your bit which am putting into the book at this moment
('bout f***ing time was the cry)

josh thorp - i haven't forgotten you - it's the end of term here and im busy
getting kids through exams, writing reports, sweating like a gissie and
being bitten to death by mosquitoes - you will get it- i promise :-)

sorry

alan

i've said it before and i'll say it again

josh ronsen!  share some more stuff with us all(all)

(thanks for the latest additions to my little j.r. archive!)
i think that a many of the pieces show fluxus sensibilities, and they are
from "notFluxus" people

i like the apparent 'simplicity' of the stuff i recieved
there are things that are obvious in what they are, things that sort of,
after a while, you can work out, and things that are
beautiful/interesting/confusing in their own right and that sort of defy
banal "explanation"

i know that i will probably be scorned for this, but, a lot of the time i
dont study works or take a great deal of interest in the academic dissection
of ideas; there are works that i see and think "so?", those that make me go
"oh!" and those that make me go "Hmmm"

all of which i gain from in some way

i don't think that there is much to be gained from discussing the
"fluxusness"  of the contents of the box, it is not after all a "FluXuS"
box, it is a co(o)lection of works by people with a  similar interest, and a
relatively successful one at that.

let's discuss this



p.s.  sol, as one who has a severe weakness for the grape and the grain, i
think you'll find it's "Flurrsstiitishz"

(hee hee "hic" oO°)

sol!  sol! the wine's still cheap!  you still coming?


alan


oh also,

ken is my dice supposed to only have one number on it?  (sorry if i'm being
a bit dim here)

are some of the bits on the online version digital only, is there a disk or
summink?
bernice', eryk etc.
i bet this has all been discussed and resolved hasn't it?

and i was my usual dozy self

yours, last to catch on..

alan
I got it today,
Yippee ay aye,
That box of mine.
Man I feel fine!


And was only a little  bit broken, a miracle really.

I opened it with the kids at school, when I was supposed to be making books
with the 5th class.  I was impressed with how much they got out of it.

My compliments to all.

Did I get the biggest elephant?
12.8 cm X 8.2 cm X 2cm


Kathy is it ok to drop it in water or will it dissolve like syd barrets
effervescing elephant?

__

Freeformfreakoutorganisation FluxlistboxelephantbyK.Forer Survey

Name
_

FLUXLIST: eh!!??

[alan bowman]

with many apologies for this ,hopefully, unecessary mail,
in the past few days i've recieved only one Fluxlist post, i have not
recieved the ones i sent to the list, via the list.
is the fluxlist functioning ok? has anyone recieved my posts? is the problem
at my end?

i recieved only don boyd's
"Patricia. I am saying goodbye to my computer
here at Muskingum College today. I have a temporary..."
post.

yours confused (sempre)

alan

FLUXLIST: Trading art....

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Maybe this is indeed listish. Like trading Miles tapes over the net.
I like this Forer elephant, allreadya mentioned.

Same technic like Anns hazard game..is this a popular game in the US ?
Putting things into clay ? Or was it Anns or Karens invention ? 

History..

H.

FLUXLIST: fluxus box performance

[Patricia]

Allen,

What ever happened to the box at ebay?  I've been fearing, due to
the deafening silence of the past couple of days that fluxlist
was declared to be a non movement and simply ceased to exist.

I did bid on it, under the name of my alterego, Zoe Ennui, but
was slammed out of the race at $25.

I'd love to hear about the contents and the winning bid.

Best,
Zoe
(the artist formerly known as PK)

FLUXLIST: journal of mundane behavior

[allen bukoff]

The Mundane Seeks Equal Time With the Weird and the Deviant
New York Times, Saturday, May 20, 2000
"Thank Tank" column in Arts & Ideas section, page A19
by Emily Eakin

Imagine a Martian anthropologist coming to Earth, reading the tabloids, 
watching a couple of talk shows and taking in a few movies. He might well 
return to his planet persuaded that humans beings are a freak race beset by 
murder, rape, incest, kinky sex and the like.

This is the scenario proposed by Scott Schaffer, a sociologist at 
California State University at Fullerton, as a rationale for his Journal of 
Mundane Behavior, a new scholarly periodical devoted to the banal aspects 
of everyday life. Mr. Schaffer and a coeditor started the journal in 
February to counter not only the trend toward sensational news stories but 
also what they call an unhealthy fixation on the deviant in the social 
sciences. Rather than studying pornography stars or doomsday cults, they 
say, why not examine office workers or a suburban Sunday school?

Sound boring? Perhaps. But if the abnormal can have its own library shelf 
(The Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology and The Journal of Abnormal 
Psychology and Deviant Behavior, to name two), then why not the normal?

The idea for the journal came from an essay two years ago in Sociological 
Theory by Wayne Brekhus, a sociologist at the University of Missouri at 
Columbia. Though the humdrum characterizes the bulk of our social 
experience, Mr. Brekhus wrote, sociologists disproportionately favor the 
outlandish. The result, he argued, is group stereotyping: a tendency to 
equate, say, gang life with poor urban African-Americans, punk rockers with 
youth culture, or drag queens with homosexual culture generally. "Although 
there are many deviance journals to explicitly analyze socially unusual 
behavior," he lamented, "there is no Journal of Mundane Behavior to 
explicitly analyze conformity."

After reading Mr. Brekhus's essay, Mr. Schaffer and his Fullerton colleague 
Myron Orleans decided there should be such a journal.

Available only online at www.mundanebehavior.org, the journal's inaugural 
issue (a second issue is planned next month) features articles on the 
social implications of male facial hair, the function of casual 
conversation ("plain talk") in Israeli culture and Japanese elevator 
etiquette. In this last, Terry Caesar, a professor at Mukogawa Women's 
University, ponders why Japanese are uncharacteristically friendly in 
elevators. His conclusion: the close quarters and fleeting duration of the 
ride encourage passengers to deviate from the rigid social scripts that 
govern Japanese public life.

"Most of us don't live Jerry Springer lives," Mr. Schaffer observes in the 
journal's introductory essay. "The editors here think that this vast amount 
of energy, effort and in some cases sheer drudgery deserves some attention."

Yet even the journal's creators admit that the study of the everyday is not 
that abnormal after all. "There is a long-term foundation for studying 
everyday life," Mr. Orleans concedes. He cites the groundbreaking work of 
Erving Goffmann, whose "Presentation of Self in Everyday Life" (1959) 
encouraged researchers to use natural settings and observational research. 
While Goffmann's own study of life in an insane asylum did not take the I 
normal" as a subject, his naturalistic approach ended up destigmatizing 
madness by portraying the institution from the inmates' point of view. More 
recently, sociologists have applied some of Goffmann's techniques to 
investigate the largely unconscious verbal and nonverbal conventions of 
everyday social interactions. Even seemingly banal exchanges - with the 
grocery store cashier, the postman or a passing stranger - yield valuable 
insights into how human social life is organized, they say. "The attention 
to everyday life in American sociology has surely increased over the past 
decade," says Mitchell Duneier, an associate professor of sociology at the 
University of Wisconsin at Madison and the University of California at 
Santa Barbara, who has studied conversations between panhandlers and 
passers-by in Greenwich Village. "What has emerged is a concern with 
looking at how large social systems shape and are constituted by the social 
interactions we engage in daily."

When Duneier and a colleague analyzed encounters between black panhandlers 
and middle-class white female pedestrians, they learned something about 
what causes mistrust in social situations. The women were not only upset by 
the words the panhandlers used ("Hey pretty" or "I love you, baby") but 
also by the silences between words, speech patterns that disregarded the 
tacit conventions of small talk.

Despite this surge of interest in conversational minutiae, however, the 
editors of the Journal of Mundane Behavior insist that the sociology of 
everyday life remains a minor current in the field. "Students are drawn 
more to study problem areas so they 

FLUXLIST: Art Books

[allen bukoff]

in the email today...

From: "Artbase"
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Subject: Art Books
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 16:09:13 +0200

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FLUXLIST: fluxus physics?

[allen bukoff]

The Physicist and the Wrapper
by James Glanz
New York Times
Sunday, June 4, 2000
Week in Review (Section 4, page 2)

Like poets who find inspiration on the kitchen table or back porch, 
physicists are rediscovering the world they can see with the unaided eye. 
The trend began at least a decade ago when they began pondering why Brazil 
nuts, the largest and heaviest nuggets in a can of mixed nuts, always end 
up on top after being jostled during shipping.

The movement may have found its Ferlinghetti in Dr. Eric Kramer, a 
physicist at Simon's Rock College in Massachusetts, who presented 
experiments to explain that plague upon opera, theater and serious music: 
the maddening, inescapable crackling of candy wrappers.

After analyzing the sound, Dr. Kramer and a colleague discovered that it 
was not a continuous rustle but a series of brief, unpredictable bursts 
just thousandths of a second long. As theatergoers may already suspect, 
opening a wrapper slowly does not quiet those bursts but only slows down 
the rate at which they go off. Each snap, Dr. Kramer found, is the product 
of a tiny rearrangement of one of the creases in the wrapper.

The dynamics of those innumerable little rearrangements is complex enough 
to keep any physicist happy. But like the Brazil nut phenomenon, which was 
found to be caused by a subtle circulation in the can, the candy wrapper 
research may be most interesting as another step in the journey of 
physicists back from the minuscule scale of the atom and the gigantic scale 
of the cosmos. Like Ferlinghetti, they are rediscovering the mysteries of 
the here and now.

FLUXLIST: Roshini Kempadoo - Virtual Exiles

[Chris Byrne]

New Media Scotland and Street Level Photoworks present:

Roshini Kempadoo   -   Virtual Exiles

20 June to 22 July 2000, Street Level Photoworks, Glasgow

http://www.mediascot.org/exiles

'Virtual Exiles becomes a collective way of telling stories, of digitally
contributing our own version of what it means to step between two spaces at
once. Two cultures, two senses of belonging, two countries we are familiar
with. To visually describe this difference becomes an important inscription
to everyday encounters and our writing of the past ..' David Dabydeen:
Author, poet, and lecturer in Caribbean Studies.

Roshini Kempadoo's digital images and web site explore the experiences of
individuals who have left their country of origin and who are now at 'home'
in another. The reason and experience of having left a homeland always
varies, but what doesn't is the relation to the host country - those who
have migrated are nearly always considered to be 'outsiders' or
'foreigners'. The work was created by Kempadoo while investigating her own
status as refugee/exile/expatriate/emigre in relation to her own country of
birth England and her country of origin and upbringing, Guyana.

The interactive website is an ongoing curated internet show where
individuals and groups are encouraged to contribute their own artwork,
whether sound, video, images or text. Visitors are invited to relate their
own experiences of being 'settled' and 'rooted' within one culture and yet
having a deep sense of belonging with another. The exhibition prints are
digitally manipulated images produced using a combination of Kempadoo's
contemporary material, and specific historical collections from the Pitt
Rivers Museum, Oxford; Royal Anthropological Institute, London; Museum voor
Volkenkunde, Rotterdam; material drawn from private and official archives
in Guyana.

Virtual Exiles is a partnership between New Media Scotland, Street Level
Photoworks, ARTEC, Watermans Arts Centre, Impressions Gallery, Napier
University and Lighthouse Media Centre. Additional funding from the Arts
Council of England's New Media Projects Fund and the Scottish Arts Council
National Lottery Fund.

Workshops with young people

As part of the exhibition at Street Level a group of young people from
across Glasgow will be working with digital artist Lindsay Perth in a
series of workshops with a multi-cultural focus. Drawing upon and
describing the participants own experiences and family histories, they will
create interactive web pages related to the theme of the exhibition. The
results will remain on both the 'Virtual Exiles' web site:

http://www.mediascot.org/exiles

For further information, please contact:

New Media Scotland  Street Level Photoworks
P.O. Box 25065  26 King Street
Glasgow G1 5YP  Glasgow G1 5QP

Tel: 0141 564 3010  Tel: 0141 552 2151
Fax: 0141 564 3011  Fax: 0141 552 2323

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