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Title: RE: Any real-life business use ? OK, A lot of thanks Rabi. We have the database in ADABAS (it's our problem) We want to use some graphical tool, if you know something more later i am grateful if you tell me. We are going to have to design a lot of model of reports (about one hundred or two hundred) and the use of graphical tool help us.We have find a tool like XSLFast allow "draw" the report and it generate the source code XSL needed to apply for XML data. Thanks Again Antonio M. Marín FernándezSADIEL, S.A.c/ Isaac Newton s/n Edificio Sadiel - Sodean, Isla de la Cartuja41092 SEVILLATel. 955064712 Tel. 955043600 Fax 955043601http://www.sadiel.es e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rabi Shankar To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:48 AM Subject: RE: Any real-life business use ? hi Antonio, we had a oracle database. some of the data were taken from the database and other from the forms of the web pages(jsp pages) and with these values the xml files were generated. this is how we made pdf reports. we didnt use any graphic tools. actually the client had provided us with the format of the report they wanted using their reporting tool. so all we had to do was make the report in the same way. rgds, Rabi. -Original Message- From: Antonio Marín Fernández [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 5:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Any real-life business use ? Hi Rabi. I want develop a project what generate some reports. I'd like know how have you make it. What tools have you use to develop your project, for example if you have use some graphics tools to design the reports like XSLFast. etc... Thanks. File: sinttu1.jpg Antonio M. Marín FernándezSADIEL, S.A.c/ Isaac Newton s/n Edificio Sadiel - Sodean, Isla de la Cartuja41092 SEVILLATel. 955064712Tel. 955043600 Fax 955043601http://www.sadiel.es e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rabi Shankar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: Any real-life business use ? hi everybody, i had used fop to generate reports (nearly 25 of them) for a project for an insurance compay.rgds,rabi.
RE: Any real-life business use ?
Hi, In a previous project we had to build around 350 reports in HTML, all from XML generated bij JPSs. We decided to write an XSL library that had a number of templates to build several parts of the report (ie. HTML and XSL code). Worked like a charm and all the specific reports consisted of were some specific details, the rest was pretty generic parameter driven. Adding a new type of report was easy and could be done in a jiffy. My best advice would be: use a good old plain text editor and do something like the above because all graphical tools in the world do not produce code as good as a programmer does. I've seen some horrible results from things like XML Spy XSL designer etc. Yikes! Just my $0.02, Michiel -Original Message- From: Antonio Marín Fernández [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: dinsdag 22 januari 2002 8:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Any real-life business use ? OK, A lot of thanks Rabi. We have the database in ADABAS (it's our problem) We want to use some graphical tool, if you know something more later i am grateful if you tell me. We are going to have to design a lot of model of reports (about one hundred or two hundred) and the use of graphical tool help us.We have find a tool like XSLFast allow draw the report and it generate the source code XSL needed to apply for XML data. Thanks Again Antonio M. Marín Fernández SADIEL, S.A. c/ Isaac Newton s/n Edificio Sadiel - Sodean, Isla de la Cartuja 41092 SEVILLA Tel. 955064712 Tel. 955043600 Fax 955043601 http://www.sadiel.es e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rabi Shankar To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:48 AM Subject: RE: Any real-life business use ? hi Antonio, we had a oracle database. some of the data were taken from the database and other from the forms of the web pages(jsp pages) and with these values the xml files were generated. this is how we made pdf reports. we didnt use any graphic tools. actually the client had provided us with the format of the report they wanted using their reporting tool. so all we had to do was make the report in the same way. rgds, Rabi. -Original Message- From: Antonio Marín Fernández [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 5:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Any real-life business use ? Hi Rabi. I want develop a project what generate some reports. I'd like know how have you make it. What tools have you use to develop your project, for example if you have use some graphics tools to design the reports like XSLFast. etc... Thanks. File: sinttu1.jpg Antonio M. Marín Fernández SADIEL, S.A. c/ Isaac Newton s/n Edificio Sadiel - Sodean, Isla de la Cartuja 41092 SEVILLA Tel. 955064712 Tel. 955043600 Fax 955043601 http://www.sadiel.es e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rabi Shankar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: Any real-life business use ? hi everybody, i had used fop to generate reports (nearly 25 of them) for a project for an insurance compay. rgds, rabi. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any real-life business use ?
Title: Any real-life business use ? hi everybody, i had used fop to generate reports (nearly 25 of them) for a project for an insurance compay. rgds, rabi.
RE: Any real-life business use ?
Title: Any real-life business use ? Hi Rabi. I want develop a project what generate some reports. I'd like know how have you make it. What tools have you use to develop your project, for example if you have use some graphics tools to design the reports like XSLFast. etc... Thanks. Antonio M. Marín FernándezSADIEL, S.A.c/ Isaac Newton s/n Edificio Sadiel - Sodean, Isla de la Cartuja41092 SEVILLATel. 955064712 Tel. 955043600 Fax 955043601http://www.sadiel.es e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rabi Shankar To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: Any real-life business use ? hi everybody, i had used fop to generate reports (nearly 25 of them) for a project for an insurance compay. rgds, rabi.
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Hello I´m using fop in a real java application. This application manages customer orders, invoices, articles and stock, to help the user in his shoes fabrication bussines. All the reports (invoices, orders, fabrication order and many list reports) are made using fop. The length of this report goes from 1 to 30 pages ~. All the report formats are pdf. The application generate XML files and my report system passes this xml file and a xsl file throw fop. The speed is good and also the final result for the user (my bosses). They use these reports in their real bussines (invoice, order, etc). Bye. José Mª - Original Message - From: Patrick Andries [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:31 PM Subject: Any real-life business use ? Hello everyone, I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. Patrick Andries - ° - ° - ° - ° Tout sur Unicode 3.1 en français : http://hapax.iquebec.com Traduction complète, mise à jour, texte en ligne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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All in all, we're making good experience in using FOP+Cocoon2 for the production of technical documentation. Speed is no problem, even with many images, but requires certain precautions. Cocoon2 is not always at the hight of FOP, documentation on FOP is insufficient. We haven't succeeded yet in embedding fonts (FOP description seems not to work) and Unicode. Matthias -Original Message- From: Patrick Andries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Any real-life business use ? Hello everyone, I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. Patrick Andries - ° - ° - ° - ° Tout sur Unicode 3.1 en français : http://hapax.iquebec.com Traduction complète, mise à jour, texte en ligne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello (world :)! Patrick Andries wrote: I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. We use FOP in commercial projects, e.g. for generating documents for life insurance (proposals, policies, change requests, claims, payment orders, ...) in front-end application (servlet based). We integrated (a little patched) FOP into HyperQbs (http://www.hyperqbs.org) as an alternative parser and we use it that way. We (and our clients too) are satisfied with quality of documents generated by FOP except of problems with keep-with-next attribute which is not implemented correctly yet. This is the only complaint we have. Best regards, J.Ch. -- Ing. Jozef Chocholacek Qbizm Technologies, Inc. Chief Project Analyst ... the art of internet. Kralovopolska 139 tel: +420 5 4124 2414 601 12 Brno, CZ http://www.qbizm.com fax: +420 5 4121 2696 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Matthias, what's your problem with embedding fonts and unicode. It works for me. I embed the ArialMSUnicode in my pdf-files. Have a look at http://publications.uu.se/theses/ Best regards Uwe Klosa -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Matthias Fischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Skickat: den 14 januari 2002 09:26 Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ämne: RE: Any real-life business use ? All in all, we're making good experience in using FOP+Cocoon2 for the production of technical documentation. Speed is no problem, even with many images, but requires certain precautions. Cocoon2 is not always at the hight of FOP, documentation on FOP is insufficient. We haven't succeeded yet in embedding fonts (FOP description seems not to work) and Unicode. Matthias -Original Message- From: Patrick Andries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Any real-life business use ? Hello everyone, I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. Patrick Andries - ° - ° - ° - ° Tout sur Unicode 3.1 en français : http://hapax.iquebec.com Traduction complète, mise à jour, texte en ligne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hallo, i used fop for printing postcards with the internet. you can see it under www.lovelycard.de thomas kübler - Original Message - From: Patrick Andries [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:31 PM Subject: Any real-life business use ? Hello everyone, I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. Patrick Andries - ° - ° - ° - ° Tout sur Unicode 3.1 en français : http://hapax.iquebec.com Traduction complète, mise à jour, texte en ligne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I implemented a small class, that analyses the jpg header, extracts the dpi value and then sets the width and/or height of that image. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Stefan Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Montag, 14. Januar 2002 10:09 An: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Betreff: RE: Any real-life business use ? what kind workaround for Images are you using? Stefan -Original Message- From: Beer, Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:02 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: AW: Any real-life business use ? Hi! We use FOP in a project for our customer. Our applications create letters and postcards. The count of pages differ from 1 to 5 pages. The speed is good. We only had a few problems in the beginning, because some points in the XSL-spec are not or not good enough implemented. I'm looking forward to see what the new design brings for fop (speed and functionality). The only point is, that the image processing is not perfect. The dpi of an image is not processed. But we found a workaround. Christian DIRON Wirtschaftsinformatik GmbH Co. KG Christian Beer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Daimlerweg 39-41Tel. : +49(251)979-200 48163 Muenster Fax : +49(251)979-2020 Germany Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Patrick Andries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. Januar 2002 23:31 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Any real-life business use ? Hello everyone, I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. Patrick Andries - ° - ° - ° - ° Tout sur Unicode 3.1 en français : http://hapax.iquebec.com Traduction complète, mise à jour, texte en ligne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sitewaerts GmbH Hebelstraße 15 D-76133 Karlsruhe Tel: +49 (721) 920 918 0 Fax: +49 (721) 920 918 29 http://www.sitewaerts.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You manage to specify the heigth and the width of an image !!! I don't succeed ! How do you set these parameters ? In which FOP version ? Solange Desseignes -Message d'origine- De : Beer, Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : lundi 14 janvier 2002 10:15 À : '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Objet : AW: Any real-life business use ? I implemented a small class, that analyses the jpg header, extracts the dpi value and then sets the width and/or height of that image. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Stefan Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Montag, 14. Januar 2002 10:09 An: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Betreff: RE: Any real-life business use ? what kind workaround for Images are you using? Stefan -Original Message- From: Beer, Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:02 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: AW: Any real-life business use ? Hi! We use FOP in a project for our customer. Our applications create letters and postcards. The count of pages differ from 1 to 5 pages. The speed is good. We only had a few problems in the beginning, because some points in the XSL-spec are not or not good enough implemented. I'm looking forward to see what the new design brings for fop (speed and functionality). The only point is, that the image processing is not perfect. The dpi of an image is not processed. But we found a workaround. Christian DIRON Wirtschaftsinformatik GmbH Co. KG Christian Beer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Daimlerweg 39-41Tel. : +49(251)979-200 48163 Muenster Fax : +49(251)979-2020 Germany Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Patrick Andries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. Januar 2002 23:31 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Any real-life business use ? Hello everyone, I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. Patrick Andries - ° - ° - ° - ° Tout sur Unicode 3.1 en français : http://hapax.iquebec.com Traduction complète, mise à jour, texte en ligne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sitewaerts GmbH Hebelstraße 15 D-76133 Karlsruhe Tel: +49 (721) 920 918 0 Fax: +49 (721) 920 918 29 http://www.sitewaerts.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any real-life business use ?
Am Sonntag, 13. Januar 2002 23:31 schrieben Sie: Hello everyone, I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. I have a client who is happily using Fop to produce pretty printable versions of web tables (lots of financial figures) and charts. They are a very demanding user and wouldn't accept the system if it didn't do what they wanted. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Tables of Figures and graphical charts. Low volume indeed (but very powerful machines) Embedded in servlets but due to IE bugs we sometimes had to save the whole pdf to disk and then redirect the browser to the saved pdf file. This is *bad* for a high volume site. The speed is acceptible. Most of the time we actually email the pdf to the user so speed is not an issue. My contact in the client company didn't need to specify what tools he used to his superior: he just needed to produce good printouts from the website. London Business? I am looking at providing some free Open Source consultancy to London businesses so if you run Fop in London please visit http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ and fill in the questionnaire. Alex McLintock = Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ --- SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/ Get Your XML T-Shirt t-shirt/ at http://www.inversity.co.uk/ COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255 __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We use it for generating shipping reports in our software and it has now become our main reporting tool.. Volume can be from several to several hundred report requests per day. Page counts are usually in the double digits, but can get into the triple digits depending on the client using our software. No sevlets here (yet) and we are still coping with the speed issues. Justification was that it worked and did not lock us into a proprietary format. -Lou Patrick Andries [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/13/2002 05:31:25 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Any real-life business use ? Hello everyone, I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. Patrick Andries - ° - ° - ° - ° Tout sur Unicode 3.1 en français : http://hapax.iquebec.com Traduction complète, mise à jour, texte en ligne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, I have got the width and height in pixels and the dpi of the image. Then I set the width and height paramters in XSL-FO to the calculated values (pixels - inch). I am using the newest release version. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Solange Desseignes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Montag, 14. Januar 2002 11:44 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: Any real-life business use ? You manage to specify the heigth and the width of an image !!! I don't succeed ! How do you set these parameters ? In which FOP version ? Solange Desseignes -Message d'origine- De : Beer, Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : lundi 14 janvier 2002 10:15 À : '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Objet : AW: Any real-life business use ? I implemented a small class, that analyses the jpg header, extracts the dpi value and then sets the width and/or height of that image. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Stefan Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Montag, 14. Januar 2002 10:09 An: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Betreff: RE: Any real-life business use ? what kind workaround for Images are you using? Stefan -Original Message- From: Beer, Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:02 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: AW: Any real-life business use ? Hi! We use FOP in a project for our customer. Our applications create letters and postcards. The count of pages differ from 1 to 5 pages. The speed is good. We only had a few problems in the beginning, because some points in the XSL-spec are not or not good enough implemented. I'm looking forward to see what the new design brings for fop (speed and functionality). The only point is, that the image processing is not perfect. The dpi of an image is not processed. But we found a workaround. Christian DIRON Wirtschaftsinformatik GmbH Co. KG Christian Beer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Daimlerweg 39-41Tel. : +49(251)979-200 48163 Muenster Fax : +49(251)979-2020 Germany Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Patrick Andries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. Januar 2002 23:31 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Any real-life business use ? Hello everyone, I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. Patrick Andries - ° - ° - ° - ° Tout sur Unicode 3.1 en français : http://hapax.iquebec.com Traduction complète, mise à jour, texte en ligne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sitewaerts GmbH Hebelstraße 15 D-76133 Karlsruhe Tel: +49 (721) 920 918 0 Fax: +49 (721) 920 918 29 http://www.sitewaerts.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thank you very much to all that have answered, the messages as well as support one seems to get from the list are indeed encouraging. I still have one general question and a specific one : 1) Volume and speed I have written a small report: a five-column table, a page footer (simple text), a page header with a largish colour logo. I embedded the FOP generation (XSLT + FOP) in a servlet using the supplied standard code (viz. using XSLTInputHandler as parser). I use Jboss 2.4.4 with Catalina. My development machine is a Pentium 700 Mhz machine with 254 Meg of memory running Windows NT 2000 Professional. And I don't seem to get much more than 1-2 pages generated per second (even when the servlet has already been called). Is this also your experience? I must say that I have attempted no optimisation. Any that you might suggest? How do handle load when several users are requesting reports simultaneously? Only accept patient users? 2) IE Bug Alex Mc Lintock wrote that, due to a bug in IE, he had to save the whole PDF file on disk. I think I have seen this: is this when the PDF file is interpreted as text and displayed as gibberish in the main navigation window? Has this not been resolved in later versions of IE? Has the bug been reported to the MSIE team? Patrick Andries -° - ° - ° - ° Tout sur Unicode 3.1 en français http://hapax.iquebec.com Texte complet de la norme mise à jour, annotations - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We're using FOP to generate our monthly billing statements. We generate 70,000 statements+ a month in about a 4 hour period of time. Statements range from 1-10 pages. We set up OMR marks for our print shop and OCR fonts for the bank return slips. One way we increased speed was to fire the SAX events directly, instead of through a stylesheet. This also gave us a little more control over the content, whithout having to code FOP extensions. We sold it to our company in several ways. It's verry low cost (donation to apache.org), gave us control over look of statements and allowed our billing question department to view the exact bill the client recieved. It also runs on AS/400's. JohnPT fop-dev-return-12526-jthaemlitz=oreillyauto.com@XML. APACHE.ORG To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 01/13/02 04:31 PM Subject: Any real-life business use ? Please respond to fop-dev Hello everyone, I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. Patrick Andries - ° - ° - ° - ° Tout sur Unicode 3.1 en français : http://hapax.iquebec.com Traduction complète, mise à jour, texte en ligne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Title: RE: Any real-life business use ? Patrick Andries wrote: I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. We are starting to figure out how to use it for printing technical manuals (8 manuals, totaling about 3000 pages, lots of JPG, webCGM, and SVG graphics) for our customers who still want paper (more than you'd think). We're just starting out and still fine tuning the style sheets converting from xml to xsl-fo and then to PDF. Kevin
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- Original Message - From: Patrick Andries [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Any real-life business use ? Alex Mc Lintock wrote that, due to a bug in IE, he had to save the whole PDF file on disk. I think I have seen this: is this when the PDF file is interpreted as text and displayed as gibberish in the main navigation window? Has this not been resolved in later versions of IE? Has the bug been reported to the MSIE team? I've been using FOP in Cocoon , and AFAIK, IE fails to understand that the file is a PDF if it doesn't have a .pdf extension. IE is not to clean when it comes to MIME type VS extensions. As a workaround you can also do IIRC document?hackattr=dummyvalue.pdf . IE knows of this, and AFAIK it's not resolved in IE5.5 . -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] These are the days of miracle and wonder... ...so don't cry baby, don't cry... Paul Simon smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
Re: [FOP] Re: Any real-life business use ?
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Patrick Andries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? I am keeping an eye on FOP for a documentation project I'm working on. However, it doesn't yet meet the needs of the project. Project characteristics are delivery of a PDF version of a programming manual. Software is a commerical API with some 400 functions. each function has a man page to itself. There's also tutorial material (estimated at 200 pages or so) plus man pages for internal data structures. This is all marked up according to the DocBook DTD and (for contractual reasons) will be processed using the associated style sheets created by Norm Walsh. At the moment this is looking like we have to use the DSSSL stylesheets to create an RTF intermediary file and then distill from that. Personally I'd rather use FOP than go via Distiller. The SVG capabilities of FOP would be useful to have. Sadly the tests we've done show that 0.20 isn't ready for such a task, either in terms of resources or support for the latest DocBook XSLT scripts. If the only problem were the time to process the document then I could live with that; the production of the PDF will only be undertaken every six months. Regards, Trevor British Sign Language is not inarticulate handwaving; it's a living language. Support the campaign for formal recognition by the British government now! Details at http://www.fdp.org.uk/ or http://www.bsl-march.co.uk/ -- Re: deemed! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Our app is in live beta testing right now. We use FOP to generate printable versions of a lab report and 5 canned mgmt. reports. (I've included a demo copy of the lab report, just to show some of what FOP can do.) So far the only limitations we've found are: 1) Memory. Fop runs out of memory on large reports (from 40+ pages), moreso when several are being run concurrently. (It also happens more often on our $20,000 HP-UX production machines vs. my PIII-NT4 dev box. I have all the settings to HP recommendations. I don't think the HP-UX JVM, even with Hotspot, is tuned very well for garbage collection.) I understand that they way around this is to implement new page sequences every x pages or so. The problem is some of our reports don't have natural page breaks, so I guess I will have to insert some in odd places. 2) Table-header flexibility. We sometimes have a desire to alter the table header for every instance after the first (like inserting the word 'Continued'). I'm gearing up to write a FOP extension to accomplish this. 3) Keep-with-next endless looping problem. Apparently this will be addressed very soon. 4) Complex page numbering. We have a need to display a subsection page number separately within the document. (IE - document page 4 of 9 is subsection page 1 of 3.) Haven't figured out a way to do this. Maybe another extension? 5) On the attached lab report, I can't figure out a way to get the table (or it could be cell) border to extend to the bottom of the page. Note that the report is broken into 4 sections, all of which can span multiple pages. Any ideas on this one would be greatly appreciated. I posted a message about it awhile back (subj: min table or table-cell height?) but no one got back to me. Maybe the visual of the actual lab report will help. All in all, we're very pleased with FOP. I know I surprised some people who didn't think it was possible to work the voodoo of dynamic PDF generation w/o shelling out for a $$$ product, and probably consultants on top of that. thx, Matt Savino -Original Message- From: Patrick Andries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Any real-life business use ? Hello everyone, I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. Patrick Andries - ° - ° - ° - ° Tout sur Unicode 3.1 en français : http://hapax.iquebec.com Traduction complète, mise à jour, texte en ligne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SampleLabReport.pdf Description: Binary data - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any real-life business use ?
Hello everyone, I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from people that are using it for real-life business needs. What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding it in servlets ? How do they cope with the speed ? How do they justify using FO to their bosses ? Anybody with both 3B2 and FO or Compuset and FO experience ? I would love to hear your story. Patrick Andries - ° - ° - ° - ° Tout sur Unicode 3.1 en français : http://hapax.iquebec.com Traduction complète, mise à jour, texte en ligne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
