[fpc-pascal] fpGUI documentation
Hi Graeme I am really impressed with fpGUI. Judging from the examples and the comments of others, this is exactly what I need. The examples will go a long way in helping me understand it but I seem to be hitting a number of roadblocks with the documentation. The class index on the site appears to be a dead link: http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/apidocs/index.html In the documentation folder this file is German only: layouting_de.html (I can try Google translate or Learn German!) I don't seem to be able to figure out how to generate the documentation in the folder, I tried running all three build scripts: :bash build_html.sh FPDoc - Free Pascal Documentation Tool Version 2.6.2 [2013/03/17] (c) 2000 - 2003 Areca Systems GmbH / Sebastian Guenther, s...@freepascal.org exception at 00483246: Unable to open file xml/corelib/fpg_cmdlineparams.xml. bash build_ipf.sh FPDoc - Free Pascal Documentation Tool Version 2.6.2 [2013/03/17] (c) 2000 - 2003 Areca Systems GmbH / Sebastian Guenther, s...@freepascal.org exception at 00483246: Unable to open file xml/corelib/fpg_cmdlineparams.xml. bash build_rtf.sh FPDoc - Free Pascal Documentation Tool Version 2.6.2 [2013/03/17] (c) 2000 - 2003 Areca Systems GmbH / Sebastian Guenther, s...@freepascal.org exception at 00483246: Unable to open file xml/corelib/fpg_cmdlineparams.xml. I found this PDF online: http://geldenhuys.co.uk/articles/fpgui.pdf It's from 2008 and it sound like you have done a lot of work since then, is this document still valid? Once I know what I am doing maybe I can help with the documentation a bit? Have a great day-Patrick ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] GUI confusion
Hi Fred Yes ! I am evaluating both Lazarus and fpGUI. At the moment I am steering towards fpGUI. I like FLTK but I don't like C++ and the FLTK bindings are not so great. Understanding GTK or QT under the hood is a massive undertaking. So far fpGUI reminds me of FLTK(but it prettier) I can imagine, without heroic effort, that people would be able to look inside it and see what's going on. It looks to be 173K lines, while FLTK is about 100K(I forgot the exact number). However I am betting it will be much easier to read then C++ and of course I don't even have to read the source to understand it! It's just nice to know that it is possible for me. Being able to fix bugs yourself is important to me. A small readable codebase means autonomy, projects do get abandoned and/or people can get sick and are unable to maintain them. fpGUI seems like a really good project. Nice work Graeme. -Patrick On 09/30/2013 03:33 PM, Fred van Stappen wrote: Have you try fpGUI ? https://github.com/graemeg/fpGUI/tree/develop Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 01:07:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] GUI confusion From: michal.wall...@gmail.com To: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org On Sep 29, 2013 8:24 AM, Patrick patr...@spellingbeewinnars.org mailto:patr...@spellingbeewinnars.org wrote: I don't really like IDEs. I used gvim and I suppose it could almost be called an IDE as well but I mean I would rather use the shellr then clicking on a build button. For what its worth, I use free pascal practically every day, but rarely open Lazarus. I write most of my code in emacs, running inside a tmux session: http://tangentstorm.imgur.com/all/ But if I were going to make a GUI app, it would be crazy of me to ignore Lazarus. :) I also use it when I want to browse and navigate through other people's source code. You can ctrl-click on identifiers as id they were hyperlinks. Also if part of what bothers you is all the floating panels, you can enable the anchor docking extension and put everything into one window. That made a tremendous difference for me. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
[fpc-pascal] fpGUI documentation
Apologies if this is a double post, I sent this, this morning but it does not seem to have made it to the list: Hi Graeme I am really impressed with fpGUI. Judging from the examples and the comments of others, this is exactly what I need. The examples will go a long way in helping me understand it but I seem to be hitting a number of roadblocks with the documentation. The class index on the site appears to be a dead link: http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/apidocs/index.html In the documentation folder this file is German only: layouting_de.html (I can try Google translate or Learn German!) I don't seem to be able to figure out how to generate the documentation in the folder, I tried running all three build scripts: :bash build_html.sh FPDoc - Free Pascal Documentation Tool Version 2.6.2 [2013/03/17] (c) 2000 - 2003 Areca Systems GmbH / Sebastian Guenther, s...@freepascal.org exception at 00483246: Unable to open file xml/corelib/fpg_cmdlineparams.xml. bash build_ipf.sh FPDoc - Free Pascal Documentation Tool Version 2.6.2 [2013/03/17] (c) 2000 - 2003 Areca Systems GmbH / Sebastian Guenther, s...@freepascal.org exception at 00483246: Unable to open file xml/corelib/fpg_cmdlineparams.xml. bash build_rtf.sh FPDoc - Free Pascal Documentation Tool Version 2.6.2 [2013/03/17] (c) 2000 - 2003 Areca Systems GmbH / Sebastian Guenther, s...@freepascal.org exception at 00483246: Unable to open file xml/corelib/fpg_cmdlineparams.xml. I found this PDF online: http://geldenhuys.co.uk/articles/fpgui.pdf It's from 2008 and it sound like you have done a lot of work since then, is this document still valid? Once I know what I am doing maybe I can help with the documentation a bit? Have a great day-Patrick ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] GUI confusion
I am new. I use multiple monitors so, all of the panels could stay on one screen and the form widget on another, docking might be handy to move all the panels at once. On 09/30/2013 09:57 AM, m...@rpzdesign.com wrote: But how do you enable the anchor docking extension for Lazarus 1.0.12 and get some control of all the floating panels. I personally would want all the panels to come to the front when I click on any panel instead of having to click a couple of times to bring console or messages panel to the fore. md On 9/30/2013 2:07 AM, Michal Wallace wrote: On Sep 29, 2013 8:24 AM, Patrick patr...@spellingbeewinnars.org mailto:patr...@spellingbeewinnars.org wrote: I don't really like IDEs. I used gvim and I suppose it could almost be called an IDE as well but I mean I would rather use the shellr then clicking on a build button. For what its worth, I use free pascal practically every day, but rarely open Lazarus. I write most of my code in emacs, running inside a tmux session: http://tangentstorm.imgur.com/all/ But if I were going to make a GUI app, it would be crazy of me to ignore Lazarus. :) I also use it when I want to browse and navigate through other people's source code. You can ctrl-click on identifiers as id they were hyperlinks. Also if part of what bothers you is all the floating panels, you can enable the anchor docking extension and put everything into one window. That made a tremendous difference for me. ___ fpc-pascal maillist -fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
[fpc-pascal] GUI confusion
Hi Everyone I really like the pascal code I have looked at and I am very excited about FPC. I hope this email won't upset anyone, it is a bit negative. I don't really like IDEs. I used gvim and I suppose it could almost be called an IDE as well but I mean I would rather use the shellr then clicking on a build button. I am trying to learn what Lazarus is all about but I am still clueless. There are screen shots of it being used to develop GTK and QT applications but I have also read that GTK 2 is new and buggy and then there is this line: The FPC Qt4 Binding is not meant to create Qt applications in FPC. But it should allow the Lazarus LCL developers to create a Qt Widget set for Lazarus Can I build GTK 2 (or 3) and QT applications in this? Could anyone point me to resources on how to build GUI applications without Lazarus? Please don't RTFM me, I am trying, there just seems to be a lot of conflicting information and I am confused-Patrick ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] GUI confusion
Thanks again to Reinier and Sven I just bought Getting Started with Lazarus IDE. I actually tried to get started with FPC back In January. I felt that the language was too tied to Lazarus and that I didn't want to use an IDE so I gave up. I will report back when I am a little further along this time. It is possible that the language is not being presented exactly as is intended or that there is too much room for people to misinterpret how the programming environment works. -Patrick On 09/29/2013 12:50 PM, Sven Barth wrote: On 29.09.2013 15:24, Patrick wrote: Hi Everyone I really like the pascal code I have looked at and I am very excited about FPC. I hope this email won't upset anyone, it is a bit negative. I don't really like IDEs. I used gvim and I suppose it could almost be called an IDE as well but I mean I would rather use the shellr then clicking on a build button. IDEs are less about build buttons, but about the additional features they provide: - integrated debugging - error location highlighting - code completion - code refactoring tools I am trying to learn what Lazarus is all about but I am still clueless. There are screen shots of it being used to develop GTK and QT applications but I have also read that GTK 2 is new and buggy and then there is this line: It seems that this wasn't updated for quite some time...GTK2 is no problem today and is the standard GUI interface for Lazarus on Linux The FPC Qt4 Binding is not meant to create Qt applications in FPC. But it should allow the Lazarus LCL developers to create a Qt Widget set for Lazarus I would say scratch that sentence. The first part can be more or less considered nonsense... Can I build GTK 2 (or 3) and QT applications in this? GTK 3 is not yet supported, but GTK 2 and QT are. Could anyone point me to resources on how to build GUI applications without Lazarus? You could take a look at the packages/gtk2/examples directory of a FPC source distribution. Regards, Sven ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] GUI confusion
There are alternatives, but first a distinction needs to me made. When you say Lazarus, do you mean simply the IDE, or do you mean the LCL (Lazarus Component Library)? From your earlier remard about IDE's I assume you simply don't like IDE, but you might not mind building LCL-based applications. Obviously you can create LCL-based GUI applications without using Lazarus IDE. It is a bit more work though. Just in case you didn't know, LCL uses other underlying widgetset's. So LCL can target GTK1, GTK2, Win32, fpGUI and Carbon toolkits. Another alternatives is to use fpGUI, which is a 100% custom drawn GUI toolkit, that doesn't rely on any other underlying toolkits. fpGUI talks directly to X11 or GDI. fpGUI isn't tied to any specific editor or IDE, so you are free to code with Notepad or VI if you wanted to. fpGUI does come with its own tools to help you with some tasks, but in is still not a requirement to use them. For example, fpGUI includes a stand-alone GUI Designer for visually designing forms. All that the GUI Designer does, is generated Object Pascal source code, just like you would have done by had. It doesn't use external files like the *.lfm files which Lazarus IDE produces - which ain't Object Pascal source files. Yet another alternative is MSEide+MSEgui, but as the name says, it is recommended to use the MSEide to write code. Regards, Graeme Thanks again Sven. Hi Graeme This was a very helpful post. I will definitely give fpGUI a try, along with Lazarus. I don't really know anything about using LCL outside of Lazarus yet. Your point about LCL is super helpful. I hope no one minds the constructive criticism but my lack of understanding of this was the tipping point that sent me away last time. I tried Lazarus but it did not seem to be creating GTK code or QT, it was just some sort of weirdo Lazarus only stuff and then in tandem with the QT binding statement I mentioned earlier, it wasn't even obvious whether or not it could generate GUI code outside of the IDE. The FUD circling around Pascal is that it is for teaching only. It would be painful to learn an IDE to only find out later that it is for teaching purposes. I have family members with urgent care needs and I don't have too much time. However I would really like to start posting on the net about my experiences, maybe I can help to clear away the FUD. BTW, Would it be correct to compare LCL to WxWidgets ? In the sense that it is a meta-widget toolkit? Thanks ! -Patrick ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
[fpc-pascal] Favourite Pascal books
Hi Everyone I am just putting together an order for abebooks. They have a million and one Pascal books. I can't decide on which ones to buy. Could you let me know what your favourite Pascal books are? -Patrick ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Favourite Pascal books
Thanks to Leonardo, Ewald and Graeme I am off to a great start-Patrick ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Basically on the right track?
On 12-12-29 12:10 PM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: From: Patrick patr...@spellingbeewinnars.org To: FPC-Pascal users discussions fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org Cc: Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Basically on the right track? I was able to compile helloworld2 and run it without errors. Sorry for the long email ! thanks for reading it-Patrick Patrick, btw, do you know you can create GTK2 (and QT, Win32, etc) apps with FreePascal without bothering with low level GTK2 libraries?, please take a look at the Lazarus Project (http://lazarus.freepascal.org), it'll make your life much, much easier. Regards, -- Leonardo M. Ramé http://leonardorame.blogspot.com ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal Hi Leonardo Thanks for your post. Actually I want to do some wacky stuff mixing Pascal, Ada and Lua. I think I will need to learn the lower level stuff. Happy new year :) ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Basically on the right track?
Hi Again Sven I don't know how I could have compiled the wrong file, I will stick to the Makefiles from now on to keep this simpler. I switched over to Mint (I almost lost 2.5 TBs of data! but all is well now). I installed 2.6 from the repository. I have not installed a source based fpc. I am still getting gtk related errors. If you could help me just a little more that would be great. I wanted to see how far the problem spreads so I took the package folder from the source folder I downloaded and made a shell script that looks like this: make ./aspell make ./bfd make ./bzip2 and so on... the results from calling make on each individual folder in the packages folder was not so bad: :bash Pat_Make.sh aaa_results /usr/bin/ld: warning: ./link.res contains output sections; did you forget -T? /usr/bin/ld: warning: ./link.res contains output sections; did you forget -T? make[1]: *** [all] Error 1 make: *** [fastcgi] Error 2 make[1]: *** [all] Error 1 make: *** [fcl-web] Error 2 /usr/bin/ld: warning: ./link.res contains output sections; did you forget -T? fastcgi and fcl-web seemed to give errors but that was all. when I called make from inside gtk2 I got this: :make /usr/bin/ppcx64 -Fusrc -Fusrc/glib -Fusrc/atk -Fusrc/pango -Fusrc/pangocairo -Fusrc/gtk+/gdk-pixbuf -Fusrc/gtk+/gdk -Fusrc/gtk+/gtk -Fusrc/libglade -Fusrc/gtkglext -Fusrc/gtkext -Fusrc/gtk2x11 -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/rtl -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/pasjpeg -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/hash -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/paszlib -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/fcl-base -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/fcl-image -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/x11 -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/cairo -Fisrc/gtk2x11/include -FE. -FUunits/x86_64-linux -Cg -Fl/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7 -Flinclude -Fl/etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf -dx86_64 src/buildgtk2.pp Free Pascal Compiler version 2.6.0-6 [2012/10/05] for x86_64 Copyright (c) 1993-2011 by Florian Klaempfl and others Target OS: Linux for x86-64 Compiling src/buildgtk2.pp Compiling ./src/gtk+/gtk/gtk2.pas Compiling ./src/glib/glib2.pas goption.inc(67,1) Warning: Possible library conflict: symbol g_cclosure_marshal_BOOLEAN__FLAGS from library libglib-2.0.so also found in library libgobject-2.0.so glib2.pas(1692,54) Warning: Converting pointers to signed integers may result in wrong comparison results and range errors, use an unsigned type instead. glib2.pas(1719,17) Warning: Converting pointers to signed integers may result in wrong comparison results and range errors, use an unsigned type instead. Compiling ./src/atk/atk.pas Compiling ./src/pango/pango.pas Compiling ./src/gtk+/gdk-pixbuf/gdk2pixbuf.pas Compiling ./src/gtk+/gdk/gdk2.pas gdktypes.inc(156,33) Warning: Converting pointers to signed integers may result in wrong comparison results and range errors, use an unsigned type instead. gdktypes.inc(161,28) Warning: Converting pointers to signed integers may result in wrong comparison results and range errors, use an unsigned type instead. Compiling ./src/libglade/libglade2.pas Compiling ./src/gtkglext/gdkglext.pas Compiling ./src/gtkglext/gtkglext.pas Compiling ./src/gtkext/gtk2ext.pp Compiling ./src/gtk2x11/gdk2x.pas Compiling ./src/pangocairo/pangocairo.pas 180750 lines compiled, 0.7 sec 5 warning(s) issued when I called make from inside the gtk2 examples I got: :make make -C helloworld all make[1]: Entering directory `/home/patrick/modified_since_dec29_2012/programming/pascal_small_folder/packages2.6/gtk2/examples/helloworld' /usr/bin/ppcx64 -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/rtl -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/pasjpeg -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/hash -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/paszlib -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/fcl-base -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/fcl-image -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/x11 -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/cairo -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/gtk2 -FE. -FUunits/x86_64-linux -Cg -Fl/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7 -Flinclude -Fl/etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf -dx86_64 helloworld.pas Free Pascal Compiler version 2.6.0-6 [2012/10/05] for x86_64 Copyright (c) 1993-2011 by Florian Klaempfl and others Target OS: Linux for x86-64 Compiling helloworld.pas helloworld.pas(28,11) Error: Incompatible types: got Boolean32 expected LongInt helloworld.pas(96) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping Fatal: Compilation aborted make[1]: *** [helloworld] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/patrick/modified_since_dec29_2012/programming/pascal_small_folder/packages2.6/gtk2/examples/helloworld' make: *** [helloworld_all] Error 2 : I also had similar errors inside the scribblin example: /bin/mkdir -p units/x86_64-linux /usr/bin/ppcx64 -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/rtl -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.6.0/units/x86_64-linux/pasjpeg -Fu/usr
Re: [fpc-pascal] Basically on the right track?
On 12/28/2012 08:39 AM, Juha Manninen wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Patrickpatr...@spellingbeewinnars.org wrote: I am also finding the site confusing. If I click on AMD64/x86_64 on the binary download page and then choose sourceforge, I end up being offered a package that says fpc-2.6.0.i386-linux.tar. I did find another link and installed the compiler. The AMD64/x86_64 link is for a crosscompiler of some sort. It does not work when you install it to your 64-bit computer. I have tested that many times because I always forget it. It is so extremely misleading! Could someone from the FPC team please fix it. Also the FPC sources can be found only behind many clicks. It could be more straightforward. ... and the Debian packages are divided to 44 (or some) pieces which should be downloaded one by one. Fortunately Mattias Gärtner has made easy Debian packages for FPC. They can be found in Lazarus downloads page. (!) This is bad. The first impression is always important and installation should be as simple as possible. It bothers me even though I am not a newbie any more. Lazarus pages are a bit messy, too, but not as bad. Juha ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal Hi Juha Thanks for your post :) Could you send me the link for the right 64 bit binary ? Thanks Marco and Sven for your posts too, let me make sure my set up is correct first though before I trouble you more with helloworld.pas -Patrick ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Basically on the right track?
Hope I am not wearing out the warm welcome I have received I installed the 64 bit .deb package from the website. I am still getting a lot of errors. I am starting to wonder if I have borked my install. I am on Debian stable right now. I can move to Mint Mate desktop... At the end of the email are the errors when compiling a simple gtk2 app However I am delighted to see a lua package in there. I have more experience with lua. Make is running without errors but I expected to see a liblua.a archive file after and did not see it, there were more warnings. (I have them at the end of the email) Any advice or do you think I should start with a fresh install? Thanks! helloworld2.pas(99,1) Error: Error while linking helloworld2.pas(99,1) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping Fatal: Compilation aborted make: *** [helloworld2] Error :make /usr/bin/ppcx64 -Fu../../rtl/units/x86_64-linux -Fisrc -FE. -FUunits/x86_64-linux -Cg -dx86_64 src/lua.pas Free Pascal Compiler version 2.6.0 [2012/08/24] for x86_64 Copyright (c) 1993-2011 by Florian Klaempfl and others Target OS: Linux for x86-64 Compiling src/lua.pas 575 lines compiled, 0.0 sec /usr/bin/ppcx64 -Fu../../rtl/units/x86_64-linux -Fisrc -FE. -FUunits/x86_64-linux -Cg -dx86_64 src/lualib.pas Free Pascal Compiler version 2.6.0 [2012/08/24] for x86_64 Copyright (c) 1993-2011 by Florian Klaempfl and others Target OS: Linux for x86-64 Compiling src/lualib.pas 104 lines compiled, 0.0 sec /usr/bin/ppcx64 -Fu../../rtl/units/x86_64-linux -Fisrc -FE. -FUunits/x86_64-linux -Cg -dx86_64 src/lauxlib.pas Free Pascal Compiler version 2.6.0 [2012/08/24] for x86_64 Copyright (c) 1993-2011 by Florian Klaempfl and others Target OS: Linux for x86-64 Compiling src/lauxlib.pas lauxlib.pas(292,6) Warning: Conversion between ordinals and pointers is not portable lauxlib.pas(292,27) Warning: Conversion between ordinals and pointers is not portable 380 lines compiled, 0.0 sec 2 warning(s) issued ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Basically on the right track?
Could you try to compile the example using -st and then run the generated ppas.sh script and report it's output here? I hope to get more error information from the linker this way... Regards, Sven ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal Hi again Sven I am going to switch over to Mint right now. If I don't respond it's because I screwed my email ! Ah ! the liblua.a file was there at the start and then after make clean, make it was not. Thanks ! I tried the -st switch but a script was not generated. I have the results below but don't worry too much about it, I am going to start fresh again Thanks-Patrick :fpc -st helloworld.pas Free Pascal Compiler version 2.6.0 [2012/08/24] for x86_64 Copyright (c) 1993-2011 by Florian Klaempfl and others Target OS: Linux for x86-64 Compiling helloworld.pas helloworld.pas(28,11) Error: Incompatible types: got Boolean32 expected LongInt helloworld.pas(96) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping Fatal: Compilation aborted Error: /usr/bin/ppcx64 returned an error exitcode (normal if you did not specify a source file to be compiled) ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
[fpc-pascal] Basically on the right track?
Hi Everyone This is my first post here. I have NOT read all the documentation, please forgive this but I was hoping to ask a couple of questions to make sure I am on the right track before diving into Pascal. I fell in love with Ada about 14 months ago. Including the cardboard box, i now have 53lbs of Ada books(A few still to read), I am planning on diving into Pascal in this way too and I want to mix Ada and Pascal. I found an example on the web last night and it looks easy. The only thing is the example used the gnu pascal compiler, Question 1: Can fpc create gcc compatible object code ? or Question 2: alternatively can gpc be used to compile the gtk binding? I am having some trouble compiling gtk pascal examples, the linker can't find -lgtk etc. It looks like it is a naming issue and I can create links to get myself out of trouble however, Question 3: Is it possible to specify the libraries to use to fpc ? In Ada we have .gpr files that can list where things are to be found. Thanks for reading Merry Christmas to the list members celebrating the holiday-Patrick ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Basically on the right track?
Wow ! I was really surprised to see all these emails when I woke up
today! Thanks everyone.
So my message was held in the moderator queue for a while and I have
been reading more.
Sorry for not reading through the man pages of fpc. I found the -Fu switch.
I have also read more about gpc and it seems abandoned, sorry for
mentioning it here.
At the end of the email I have the hello world gtk program I tried to
compile, the compiler error and an apt-get message from debian stable
showing gtk dev installed.
I have been able to compile gtk c examples and other languages.
Is it possible to specify the libraries to use to fpc ? In Ada we have
.gpr files that can list where things are to be found.
What do you mean with this question ?
This was an odd question to ask, sorry. With Ada we have .gpr files that
can be used in place of Makefiles(for the most part). With fpc switches
I will be fine now, sorry for the noise.
I am enjoying my holidays, I hope you guys are too !
-Patrick
:fpc hello_gtk.pas
Free Pascal Compiler version 2.4.0-2 [2010/02/20] for x86_64
Copyright (c) 1993-2009 by Florian Klaempfl
Target OS: Linux for x86-64
Compiling hello_gtk.pas
Linking hello_gtk
/usr/bin/ld: warning: link.res contains output sections; did you forget -T?
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgtk
hello_gtk.pas(70,1) Error: Error while linking
hello_gtk.pas(70,1) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping
Fatal: Compilation aborted
Error: /usr/bin/ppcx64 returned an error exitcode (normal if you did not
specify a source file to be compiled)
root@foo:/# apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
libgtk2.0-dev is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded.
N: Ignoring file 'squeeze-backports.list.save' in directory
'/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
root@foo:/#
PROGRAM hello_world;
USES gtk, gdk, glib;
{ -hello }
PROCEDURE hello( widget : pGtkWidget ; data : gpointer ); cdecl;
{ This is a callback function. The data arguments are ignored in this
example. More on callbacks later }
BEGIN
writeln('Hello World!');
END; { --hello-- }
{ delete_event }
FUNCTION delete_event( widget : pGtkWidget ; event : pGdkEvent ; data :
gpointer ) :
gint; cdecl;
{ If you return FALSE from the --delete_event-- signal handler, GTK will
emit the --destroy-- signal. Returning TRUE means you don't want
the window to be destroyed. This is useful for popping up 'are you sure
you want to quit?' type dialogs. }
BEGIN
writeln('delete event occurred');
{ Returning FALSE from the function, as we do here, causes the
--destroy-- signal to be emitted. }
delete_event := 0; { i.e. FALSE }
END; { -delete_event-- }
{ -destroy }
PROCEDURE destroy( widget : pGtkWidget ; data : gpointer ); cdecl;
{ Another callback - this one will kill the app }
BEGIN
gtk_main_quit();
END; {
---destroy--- }
{ ---Global Variables }
VAR
window, button : pGtkWidget; { GtkWidget is the storage type for widgets }
{ --Main Program-- }
BEGIN
{ This is called in all GTK applications. Arguments are parsed from the
command line and are returned to the application. }
gtk_init(@argc, @argv);
window := gtk_window_new(GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL); { Create a new window }
{ When the window is given the --delete_event-- signal (this is given by
the window manager, usually by the --close-- option,
or on the titlebar), we ask it to call the delete_event() function as
defined above. The data passed to the callback function
is NIL and is ignored in the callback function. }
gtk_signal_connect(GTK_OBJECT(window), 'delete_event',
GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC(@delete_event), NIL);
{ Here we connect the --destroy-- event to a signal handler. This event
occurs when we call gtk_widget_destroy() on the window,
or if we return FALSE in the --delete_event-- callback. }
gtk_signal_connect(GTK_OBJECT(window), 'destroy',
GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC(@destroy), NIL);
{ Creates a new button with the label 'Hello World'. }
button := gtk_button_new_with_label('Hello World');
{ When the button receives the --clicked-- signal, it will call the
procedure hello() -defined above- passing it NIL as its argument. }
gtk_signal_connect(GTK_OBJECT(button), 'clicked',
GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC(@hello), NIL);
{ This packs the button into the window (a gtk container). }
gtk_container_add(GTK_CONTAINER(window), button);
{ The final step is to display this newly created widget. }
gtk_widget_show(button);
{ and the window
Re: [fpc-pascal] Basically on the right track?
This is exactly what I thought. You are trying to use the GTK1 unit. The unit for GTK+ is called gtk2. Take a look into packages/gtk and packages/gtk2 of a Free Pascal source folder to see the differences in the units (just look at the *.pas/*.pp files and ignore the *.inc files for now). Also you could try whether you can compile the examples listed in packages/gtk2/examples. Regards, Sven Thanks Sven I am sure you are right about this. Do you happen to know if there is a way to specify the install directory? I don't blame you guys for not using autotools but I often use a flag --prefex=/pat with configure to install into a directory not in my PATH. I then call my source built programs using their full path names instead. I installed 2.4 by mistake from source(in /usr) and seem to be having trouble removing it. Thanks again for all your time-Patrick ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Basically on the right track?
Sorry to bug everyone again. I am still mixed up. I was having trouble with both source compiled builds and Debian stable packages on a 64 bit machine so I switched computers and used an atom based netbook. I still ended up with errors related to number types. I switched back to the 64 bit computer and installed a binary from the site. I am still getting errors I have included one at the end of this email. I am also finding the site confusing. If I click on AMD64/x86_64 on the binary download page and then choose sourceforge, I end up being offered a package that says fpc-2.6.0.i386-linux.tar. I did find another link and installed the compiler. I appreciate all the time everyone has already put in-Patrick Free Pascal Compiler version 2.6.0 [2011/12/23] for x86_64 Copyright (c) 1993-2011 by Florian Klaempfl and others Target OS: Linux for x86-64 Compiling helloworld.pas helloworld.pas(28,11) Error: Incompatible types: got Boolean32 expected LongInt helloworld.pas(97) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping Fatal: Compilation aborted Error: /usr/bin/ppcx64 returned an error exitcode (normal if you did not specify a source file to be compiled) ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Cross compiling: from linux to Darwin or Mac OS X
I try and give up. What I use now is a Mac virtual machine running on my Linux x64. It's too bad you have to turn to the dark side of the Internet for instruction on how to do that. Patrick ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Cross-compiling from 64-bit Linux to 32-bit Linux
I use Ubuntu 9.10 64bit and I can confirm this link are present with this release. To search for the package that contain a file I find apt-file handy: sudo apt-get install apt-file sudo apt-file update and then apt-file search libX11 ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Cross-compiling from 64-bit Linux to 32-bit Linux
Install the ia32-libs package. also check if your fpc.cfg contain the following lines, I not remember if I add them: #ifdef cpui386 -Fl/usr/lib32 -Xd #endif Patrick ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Get Timestamp since 1970 (linux)
Hello, You can do that with ? MilliSecondsBetweenhttp://lazarus-ccr.sourceforge.net/fpcdoc/rtl/dateutils/millisecondsbetween.html Calculate the number of whole milliseconds between two DateTime values. between encodedatetime(1970,1,1,0,0,0,0) and Present I don't test, but it's probably ok. bye 2007/6/4, TOUZEAU DAVID [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Is there a function that help me to calculate seconds since 1970 year ? exactly the same of this command : /bin/date +%s -d 20070103 best regards -- David Touzeau -- Linux Ubuntu Dapper 6.0.6 FreePascal-Lazarus,perl,delphi,php icq:160018849 ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Windows CE emulator and console
Hello, When you run your emulateur, you give the repertorie witch is shared between lazarus (compile exe) and the emulator. ex : C:\Program Files\Microsoft Device Emulator\1.0\DeviceEmulator.exe pocketpc.nb0 /skin Pocket_PC.xml /memsize 128 /sharedfolder C:\LzProjet\man\ Here i lunch the emulator with image Os Wince : pocketpc.nb0 (same directorie as exe of emulator) Picture of the pocket Pc model : /skin pocket_pc.xml (one in the emulator install) size of Ram : /memsize 128 (for exemple 128 meg) directorie share : /sharefolder C:\LzProjet\man\ ( my lazarus project is, and for exemple with an test.exe You compile under lazarus to have a test.exe Under the emulator, you lunch file explorator (programs), and you go to Sd card, your Sd Card is the shared directorie. You click on test.exe. You had to stop the run each time before recompile, or the file will be busy (test.exe used by emulator). The (X) on the rigth of the windows don't stop the run on pocket pc, you must stop the run by a button witch close the main window. (or you stop the process under system / memory / stop process. I also access to the web under the emulator, test that in a first time. bye. Patrick from France, excuse me for my english.. 2007/5/26, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 5/25/07, patrick feillant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Microsoft Device emulator standalone, which emule pocket Pc , it is very easy. How do you run your apps on the emulator? But is not a new emulator ? Yes, it' s the same emulator as before, but what I ment is that they updated the operating system, and on the new one the consoles don' t work. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Windows CE emulator and console
Hello, I use Microsoft Device emulator standalone, which emule pocket Pc , it is very easy. But is not a new emulator ? I test with this one on windows xp. But all the controls don't work correctly on Wince. 2007/5/25, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Is anyone using the new emulator? And if so, how do you test your apps? thanks, -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
RE: [fpc-pascal](no subject)
From: "Lee, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [fpc-pascal](no subject) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:21:36 - This question isn't very easy to answer - there is no information in it. Please try to be more precise! We can help you if you give us some information eg what operating system are you using, what are you trying to do compile run, or debug? What did you download? What were the error messages? What did you use before? Regards John -Original Message- From: Patrick Zerafa [mailto:] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 16:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [fpc-pascal](no subject) Dear sir, Hi, I installed Pascal but the Interface is not the right one and it is not as fast as it was once downloaded. Please can you tell me how to get the right Pascal Interface and working properly? your sincerely Patrick Zerafa. _ MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you. Dear Sir, This computer is Pantium 3, Windows 98, I am trying to make use of Pascal fora school project and to have the program to try some programs like calculator(addition, subtraction...), I downloaded Pascal from the site www.freepascal.org and choosed theWin32 -thedownload which consisted of the biggest size (18KB) or something like that, thenIdownloaded it and installed it and got this program. I may be asked more questionsabout my computer system and program downloaded in this e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope to recieving backfrom you. Patrick Zerafa The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* ___ fpc-pascal maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
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