Slightly OT 'bursting' a book for online delivery

2007-03-29 Thread Steve Rickaby
I am ruminating over a problem that I'd like to throw before the gurus here. It 
is a FrameMaker issue only in that the source is in FrameMaker.

We want to modularize a book for online delivery, which will be in the form of 
PDFs of book chunks. In a full-book online PDF, cross-references would appear 
and work as hyperlinks, as would the TOC, index and bookmarks. This is not 
possible cross-chunk if a book is split into chunks, although per-chunk 
bookmarks will still work.

I am wondering if a workaround would be to encode a whole-book PDF with some 
sort of DRM software such that access is restricted to the portions for which 
keys have been purchased. This would allow hyperlinks to be kept intact. I do 
not know whether commercial software exists to implement such a solution. 

Or is there some other way by which cross-references can still work?

-- 
Steve
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Re: Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-29 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

Then you need to move the TEXT so that it is the first option. I would
move FILE to last.

Bodvar

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I want to change the default Edit  Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?


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Adobe Support Package for Framemaker

2007-03-29 Thread Rebecca . L . Frasure
Our IT dept has suggested we get an Adobe support package for problems 
with Framemaker. I personally always use this group instead and will 
continue to do so. Will a support package help the rest of them with their 
problems? And I don't know what kind of problems. We had a problem with 
dropped fonts for awhile, but I found the Dov Isaacs email about PDF 
settings and fixed mine, at least. 

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Re: Adobe Support Package for Framemaker

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Quatro

Hi Rebecca,

Compared to the Adobe.com knowledge bases and the Framer lists, I doubt 
whether Adobe technical support will add much value for you. In my opinion, 
a support package would likely be a waste of money. Tell them you want a 
couple of automation FrameScript scripts instead :-).


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
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Our IT dept has suggested we get an Adobe support package for problems
with Framemaker. I personally always use this group instead and will
continue to do so. Will a support package help the rest of them with their
problems? And I don't know what kind of problems. We had a problem with
dropped fonts for awhile, but I found the Dov Isaacs email about PDF
settings and fixed mine, at least.


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Re: Adobe Support Package for Framemaker

2007-03-29 Thread Peter Gold

Hi, Rebecca:

The most serious problem with becoming becoming known among your 
colleagues for your FrameMaker expertise, it makes you a key resource 
whose own productivity is reduced every time you are interrupted to 
provide support to a co-worker.


Even if you only support one other worker, support reduces your 
productivity; it obviously becomes worse with larger numbers of workers 
to support.


If your work situation permits it (some don't permit subscribing to 
resources like frameusers.com, and Adobe's user-to-user FrameMaker 
forums) it could be more effective to invest in training those who might 
need support, to subscribe, read, search, post, and receive responses on 
these resource lists. In other words, teach them to fish, instead of 
catching the fish for them.


It would be expensive for each user have a support contract. If one or 
several users have support contracts with the expectation that they'd 
channel the support requests, then the original problem is only 
distributed among them - the skilled users reduce their productivity 
when supporting others.


Do the math first, build a model, then evaluate.

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our IT dept has suggested we get an Adobe support package for problems 
with Framemaker. I personally always use this group instead and will 
continue to do so. Will a support package help the rest of them with their 
problems? And I don't know what kind of problems. We had a problem with 
dropped fonts for awhile, but I found the Dov Isaacs email about PDF 
settings and fixed mine, at least. 
  


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Re: Anything new about when the next release of Framemaker will be launched?

2007-03-29 Thread William Gaffga
Adobe was at the WritersUA conference this week in Long Beach, CA.  
They were saying FM 8 is due this summer. They didn't have much to  
say except we will should be happy with what it has. It looks like  
they're trying to do some integration with FM, Captivate and Acrobat  
in a manner similar to CS.


They, as with several other vendors had a demo session on Tuesday  
after the seminars. I tried to find someone who attended but never  
had any luck - I was FAR more interested in what MadCap had to show .  
Perhaps someone on this list was there?


As for Blaze, I like it. After talking to Mike Hamilton (head of  
MadCap) I got a more clear sense of what Blaze is. MadCap sees a huge  
opportunity in the space between Word and FM. Basically, they see a  
lot of TWers who have maxed out on Word and see its shortcomings who  
would benefit from moving to something more like FM (TOC, cross ref,  
variables, conditions, etc..) They they see a lot of FM users who do  
not need everything in FM who want a new product with most of the  
features in FM without some of the esoteric stuff. It appears  
promising and I am certainly in that range of users they see.


I was going to keep this to myself but now, what the heck. On Monday  
I was talking to one of the FM guys in their booth, I don't recall  
for sure but I think it was RJ Jacquez. After getting an answer about  
something, DITA support I think, I jokingly said, So, if I told you  
that we still have some Macs in our production and use FM on them  
everyday, I suppose I should just turn around and walk away? He  
started talking about how FM runs quite nicely on Parallels and that  
Adobe has several systems set up that way and he uses Macs himself.  
Then he implied that there may be, at some point, a Mactel version of  
FM. I didn't believe that one bit and I wanted to say Yeah, sure.  
In fact, I was taken aback that he was even talking about Parallels  
and couldn't stick with him in the conversation. I'd like to see that  
but really don't expect it.


Will.
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In Charge of All Things Documentation
Gibbs and Associates
Not Far Enough From L.A.

On Mar 20, 2007, at 4:51 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote:


Have you heard anything yet?

My Danish vendor told me (guessed) a couple of month ago that it  
would be in March this year, but I don't trust this information  
anylonger.
I am VERY curious about the new features and a bit impatient. The  
only rumour I have heard is that Framemaker will support Unicode.


Maybe MadCap Software will be the first to launch their Blaze which  
sounds very interesting, and probably will be a real competitor to  
Framemaker.


Regards,

Verner Andersen
Technical Writer

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RE: Adobe Support Package for FrameMaker

2007-03-29 Thread Gillian Flato
On the other hand, if you are the Frame guru in your department, it
makes you more valuable as a Tech Writer. If layoffs come and they have
to cut someone, the value you add may help save your job. 


-Gillian
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Subject: Re: Adobe Support Package for Framemaker

Hi, Rebecca:

The most serious problem with becoming becoming known among your 
colleagues for your FrameMaker expertise, it makes you a key resource 
whose own productivity is reduced every time you are interrupted to 
provide support to a co-worker.

Even if you only support one other worker, support reduces your 
productivity; it obviously becomes worse with larger numbers of workers 
to support.

If your work situation permits it (some don't permit subscribing to 
resources like frameusers.com, and Adobe's user-to-user FrameMaker 
forums) it could be more effective to invest in training those who might

need support, to subscribe, read, search, post, and receive responses on

these resource lists. In other words, teach them to fish, instead of 
catching the fish for them.

It would be expensive for each user have a support contract. If one or 
several users have support contracts with the expectation that they'd 
channel the support requests, then the original problem is only 
distributed among them - the skilled users reduce their productivity 
when supporting others.

Do the math first, build a model, then evaluate.

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Our IT dept has suggested we get an Adobe support package for problems

 with Framemaker. I personally always use this group instead and will 
 continue to do so. Will a support package help the rest of them with
their 
 problems? And I don't know what kind of problems. We had a problem
with 
 dropped fonts for awhile, but I found the Dov Isaacs email about PDF 
 settings and fixed mine, at least. 
   

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Chapter Numbering Issue

2007-03-29 Thread Sam Beard
Hello All,

 

   I'm using Frame 7.2b144 on Windows XP.

 

   We had some serious network issues starting sometime last Thursday or
so, continuing up until late last night/this morning. They seem to be
resolved for now, but we've had some strange issues come up since then.
For example, I have a book with several chapters in it. A couple of
these chapters were corrupted in some manner and two of them showed this
same numbering issue. I resolved it in one, but I'm not quite sure how,
so I don't know how to resolve it in the other. Instead of the chapter
and page numbering continuing as it should from chapter file to chapter
file, the book shows only one page in the chapter, even though there ARE
several more pages. For example, Chapter 8 is pages 309 to 316, Chapter
9 is 317 (with 42 pages actually in the file), and Chapter 10 is pages
318 to 337. A previous file did the same thing, but I don't remember
what I did to resolve it. I tried a number of things and finally just
stumbled upon the answer. But, nothing seems to be working this time. 

 

   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated it!

 

Samuel I. Beard, Jr.

Technical Writer

OI Analytical

979 690-1711 Ext. 222

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RE: converting Frame to Word

2007-03-29 Thread Cermak, Bob
Hear!! Hear!! Avoid the master document at all costs. You are much
better off with a very long Word document even if those do get a little
squishy at times.

Bob Cermak

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Subject: Re: converting Frame to Word

 I was leaning toward using Mif2go to get RTF, and then using Word's
 master document to build the book.

Do a Web search and you'll see that the experts say that there are only
two 
kinds of master documents in Word: those that are corrupt, and those
that 
are about to become corrupted. Absolutely stay away from the master
document 
feature in Word. It has never worked right.

The last time I tried master documents was with Word 2000. It couldn't
even 
handle straight text files (with an occasional italics) without bombing
out. 
And saving the master document file itself never worked. Every time I 
reopened it, it was empty and all the files had to be repopulated
manually.

Mike Wickham


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RE: Anything new about when the next release of Framemaker will belaunched?

2007-03-29 Thread Dov Isaacs
 

 -Original Message-
 From: William Gaffga
 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:41 AM
 To: Framers
 Subject: Re: Anything new about when the next release of 
 Framemaker will belaunched?
 ... After getting an answer about  
 something, DITA support I think, I jokingly said, So, if I told you  
 that we still have some Macs in our production and use FM on them  
 everyday, I suppose I should just turn around and walk away? He  
 started talking about how FM runs quite nicely on Parallels and that  
 Adobe has several systems set up that way and he uses Macs himself.  
 Then he implied that there may be, at some point, a Mactel 
 version of  
 FM. I didn't believe that one bit and I wanted to say Yeah, sure.  
 In fact, I was taken aback that he was even talking about Parallels  
 and couldn't stick with him in the conversation. I'd like to 
 see that but really don't expect it.
 
 Will.
 --


Don't expect the next major version of FrameMaker to have
any Macintosh support!

- Dov

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RE: Chapter Numbering Issue

2007-03-29 Thread Combs, Richard
Sam Beard wrote:
 
 For example, I have a book with several chapters in it. A 
 couple of these chapters were corrupted in some manner and 
 two of them showed this same numbering issue. I resolved it 
 in one, but I'm not quite sure how, so I don't know how to 
 resolve it in the other. Instead of the chapter and page 
 numbering continuing as it should from chapter file to 
 chapter file, the book shows only one page in the chapter, 
 even though there ARE several more pages. For example, 
 Chapter 8 is pages 309 to 316, Chapter
 9 is 317 (with 42 pages actually in the file), and Chapter 10 is pages
 318 to 337. A previous file did the same thing, but I don't 
 remember what I did to resolve it. I tried a number of things 
 and finally just stumbled upon the answer. But, nothing seems 
 to be working this time. 

I assume you've opened the chapter files in question and confirmed
they're OK and all the pages are there. 

1) In the book window, select all the files after the first chapter
(i.e., chapters 2 through whatever, plus appendices, index, and anything
else that has continued page numbered). 

2) Right-click the selection and click Numbering. 

3) In the Numbering Properties dialog, click the Page tab. 

4) On the Page tab, select Continue Numbering from Previous Page in
Book, and click Set. 

5) In the book window, click the Update/Generate button and update the
book and all generated lists.

HTH!
Richard


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deleting extra pages

2007-03-29 Thread Kelley West
Hello,
I am new FrameMaker and have ended up with an extra page on a five
page document. I have tried pagination where it asks to if I want to
delete extra pages and that doesn't seem to make a difference. It is
a single sided document.
Thanks for any advice.
Kelley


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Re: deleting extra pages

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Quatro

Hi Kelley,

Three things to check:

1) Make sure there are no empty paragraphs on the last page.
2) Make sure that a custom master page is not applied to the last page.
3) Make sure that there are no graphics on the last page.

If that doesn't work, zip and send me the file and I will tell you what the 
problem is. Thanks.


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



Hello,
I am new FrameMaker and have ended up with an extra page on a five
page document. I have tried pagination where it asks to if I want to
delete extra pages and that doesn't seem to make a difference. It is
a single sided document.
Thanks for any advice.
Kelley


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RE: deleting extra pages

2007-03-29 Thread Fred Ridder

1) Have you saved the file?  FrameMaker only deletes empty pages
at the end of a file when you do a Save.

2) Are you sure the page is really empty? Do you have the View
Text Symbols option turned on? If not, turn it on and see where
the silicet character (the end-of-flow character that looks like
two intertwined S'es) is. If it's on page 6, there's your problem.

3) Is it possible that there is a graphic frame (even an empty one)
on page 6? Use EditSelect All in Flow (Ctrl+A) to select everything
in the document an see if anything is selected on the last page.

4) Are you using one or more custom master pages? If so, is page
6 assigned to a custom page or is it a default page? If you have
assigned a custom master page, the page is no longer considered
empty because you've applied formatting.

5) Have you tried explicitly deleting the page (SpecialDelete Pages)?






From: Kelley West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: deleting extra pages
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:37:39 -0600

Hello,
I am new FrameMaker and have ended up with an extra page on a five
page document. I have tried pagination where it asks to if I want to
delete extra pages and that doesn't seem to make a difference. It is
a single sided document.
Thanks for any advice.
Kelley


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RE: converting Frame to Word

2007-03-29 Thread Brad Simmons
Yvonne asked:
 
I was recently asked to convert our FrameMaker template into a MS Word 

template. Yes, I know this is backwards (and we all know the benefits of

Frame over Word).

Yvonne, I was recently faced with the very same situation. Like you, I
understand that telling other departments just to go out and purchase
Framemaker may not be a workable option.
 
Thus, after trying several different workarounds, we hit upon one that
worked quite well: I first used FrameMaker to create a PDF. Then, I used
a program called PDF to Word which is manufactured by a company called
Very PDF. (http://www.verypdf.com/pdf2word/index.html).
 
This program took my PDF and created a Microsoft Word document much
smaller than my previous attempts. And at $39.95, this is a much cheaper
solution than telling others to buy another copy of FM!
 
(And no, I don't work for Very PDF. I'm hyping their product free of
charge! :)
 
-Brad Simmons
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Re: Anything new about when the next release of Framemaker will belaunched?

2007-03-29 Thread William Gaffga

I don't. Like I said in my head at the show, yeah, sure.

On Mar 29, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Dov Isaacs wrote:





-Original Message-
From: William Gaffga
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:41 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Re: Anything new about when the next release of
Framemaker will belaunched?
... After getting an answer about
something, DITA support I think, I jokingly said, So, if I told you
that we still have some Macs in our production and use FM on them
everyday, I suppose I should just turn around and walk away? He
started talking about how FM runs quite nicely on Parallels and that
Adobe has several systems set up that way and he uses Macs himself.
Then he implied that there may be, at some point, a Mactel
version of
FM. I didn't believe that one bit and I wanted to say Yeah, sure.
In fact, I was taken aback that he was even talking about Parallels
and couldn't stick with him in the conversation. I'd like to
see that but really don't expect it.

Will.
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Don't expect the next major version of FrameMaker to have
any Macintosh support!

- Dov


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Re: Anything new about when the next release of Framemaker will belaunched?

2007-03-29 Thread Chris Borokowski
I'm fairly excited by the thought of an updated and
newly more competitive Framemaker. With luck, Adobe
will leave the field strewn with the broken bodies of
Frame's competitors.

--- William Gaffga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't.

User Interface design blog
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Code::Design::UI::Consulting
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RE: Chapter Numbering Issue

2007-03-29 Thread Sam Beard
Fred and Richard,

   Thanks much for the help! I did update the book and that, apparently,
was what I had done on the previous chapter that was messed up. It
worked on the second chapter and all is right with my numbering once
again. 

Thanks much, again!

Samuel I. Beard, Jr.
Technical Writer
OI Analytical
979 690-1711 Ext. 222
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To: Sam Beard
Subject: RE: Chapter Numbering Issue

Use the Update Book command, and all should be fine again. 

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Subject: Chapter Numbering Issue

Hello All,

 

   I'm using Frame 7.2b144 on Windows XP.

 

   We had some serious network issues starting sometime last Thursday or
so, continuing up until late last night/this morning. They seem to be
resolved for now, but we've had some strange issues come up since then.
For example, I have a book with several chapters in it. A couple of
these chapters were corrupted in some manner and two of them showed this
same numbering issue. I resolved it in one, but I'm not quite sure how,
so I don't know how to resolve it in the other. Instead of the chapter
and page numbering continuing as it should from chapter file to chapter
file, the book shows only one page in the chapter, even though there ARE
several more pages. For example, Chapter 8 is pages 309 to 316, Chapter
9 is 317 (with 42 pages actually in the file), and Chapter 10 is pages
318 to 337. A previous file did the same thing, but I don't remember
what I did to resolve it. I tried a number of things and finally just
stumbled upon the answer. But, nothing seems to be working this time. 

 

   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated it!

 

Samuel I. Beard, Jr.

Technical Writer

OI Analytical

979 690-1711 Ext. 222

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RE: converting Frame to Word

2007-03-29 Thread Eason, David
Brad Simons wrote:

 

Then, I used a program called PDF to Word which is manufactured by a
company called Very PDF. (http://www.verypdf.com/pdf2word/index.html)

 

I tried that program one time, and it worked very well. However, it is
one-dimensional. My program of choice is PDF Converter. It not only
converts both ways, pdf to Word and Word, but to Excel also. And the
professional version is way more versatile. The Web site is
http://www.nuance.com/pdfconverter/standard/

 

 

Regards,

 

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LSI Logic

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Cell: 303-941-3512

 

 

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Subject: RE: converting Frame to Word 

 

Yvonne asked:

 

I was recently asked to convert our FrameMaker template into a MS Word 

 

template. Yes, I know this is backwards (and we all know the benefits of

 

Frame over Word).

 

Yvonne, I was recently faced with the very same situation. Like you, I

understand that telling other departments just to go out and purchase

Framemaker may not be a workable option.

 

Thus, after trying several different workarounds, we hit upon one that

worked quite well: I first used FrameMaker to create a PDF. Then, I used

a program called PDF to Word which is manufactured by a company called

Very PDF. (http://www.verypdf.com/pdf2word/index.html).

 

This program took my PDF and created a Microsoft Word document much

smaller than my previous attempts. And at $39.95, this is a much cheaper

solution than telling others to buy another copy of FM!

 

(And no, I don't work for Very PDF. I'm hyping their product free of

charge! :)

 

-Brad Simmons

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RE: Adobe Support Package for Framemaker

2007-03-29 Thread Diane Gaskill
Rebecca,

I agree with Rick.  I've been on this list since 1992 and have found the
expertise here to be more than sufficient for almost any question I've ever
posted.  The only reason that I can think of to buy an Adobe support package
is that it might be cheaper to upgrade if you have multiple users.  I'd
expect that you can get the costs on the Adobe web site and then do the
math.

Diane Gaskill
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Hi Rebecca,

Compared to the Adobe.com knowledge bases and the Framer lists, I doubt
whether Adobe technical support will add much value for you. In my opinion,
a support package would likely be a waste of money. Tell them you want a
couple of automation FrameScript scripts instead :-).

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

 Our IT dept has suggested we get an Adobe support package for problems
 with Framemaker. I personally always use this group instead and will
 continue to do so. Will a support package help the rest of them with their
 problems? And I don't know what kind of problems. We had a problem with
 dropped fonts for awhile, but I found the Dov Isaacs email about PDF
 settings and fixed mine, at least.



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NagGram

2007-03-29 Thread Whites
From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only  
conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual.  
At all.
My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom --  
or bathroom -- reading.

And don't forget the Quick Reference Card.
It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for  
reference and elucidation.

It's amazing what you can learn.

will white
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Slightly OT" 'bursting' a book for online delivery

2007-03-29 Thread Steve Rickaby
I am ruminating over a problem that I'd like to throw before the gurus here. It 
is a FrameMaker issue only in that the source is in FrameMaker.

We want to modularize a book for online delivery, which will be in the form of 
PDFs of book chunks. In a full-book online PDF, cross-references would appear 
and work as hyperlinks, as would the TOC, index and bookmarks. This is not 
possible cross-chunk if a book is split into chunks, although per-chunk 
bookmarks will still work.

I am wondering if a workaround would be to encode a whole-book PDF with some 
sort of DRM software such that access is restricted to the portions for which 
keys have been purchased. This would allow hyperlinks to be kept intact. I do 
not know whether commercial software exists to implement such a solution. 

Or is there some other way by which cross-references can still work?

-- 
Steve



Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-29 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Then you need to move the TEXT so that it is the first option. I would
move FILE to last.

Bodvar

On 3/22/07, David Shaked (Wernick)  wrote:
> I want to change the default Edit > Paste format to Text. Per the
> instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
> file. I changed
>
> ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT
>
> to
>
> ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF
>
> and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
> both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?
>



Adobe Support Package for Framemaker

2007-03-29 Thread rebecca.l.fras...@aphis.usda.gov
Our IT dept has suggested we get an Adobe support package for problems 
with Framemaker. I personally always use this group instead and will 
continue to do so. Will a support package help the rest of them with their 
problems? And I don't know what kind of problems. We had a problem with 
dropped fonts for awhile, but I found the Dov Isaacs email about PDF 
settings and fixed mine, at least. 




Adobe Support Package for Framemaker

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Rebecca,

Compared to the Adobe.com knowledge bases and the Framer lists, I doubt 
whether Adobe technical support will add much value for you. In my opinion, 
a support package would likely be a waste of money. Tell them you want a 
couple of automation FrameScript scripts instead :-).

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

> Our IT dept has suggested we get an Adobe support package for problems
> with Framemaker. I personally always use this group instead and will
> continue to do so. Will a support package help the rest of them with their
> problems? And I don't know what kind of problems. We had a problem with
> dropped fonts for awhile, but I found the Dov Isaacs email about PDF
> settings and fixed mine, at least.




Adobe Support Package for Framemaker

2007-03-29 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Rebecca:

The most serious problem with becoming becoming known among your 
colleagues for your FrameMaker expertise, it makes you a key resource 
whose own productivity is reduced every time you are interrupted to 
provide support to a co-worker.

Even if you only support one other worker, support reduces your 
productivity; it obviously becomes worse with larger numbers of workers 
to support.

If your work situation permits it (some don't permit subscribing to 
resources like frameusers.com, and Adobe's user-to-user FrameMaker 
forums) it could be more effective to invest in training those who might 
need support, to subscribe, read, search, post, and receive responses on 
these resource lists. In other words, "teach them to fish, instead of 
catching the fish for them."

It would be expensive for each user have a support contract. If one or 
several users have support contracts with the expectation that they'd 
channel the support requests, then the original problem is only 
distributed among them - the skilled users reduce their productivity 
when supporting others.

Do the math first, build a model, then evaluate.

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Rebecca.L.Frasure at aphis.usda.gov wrote:
> Our IT dept has suggested we get an Adobe support package for problems 
> with Framemaker. I personally always use this group instead and will 
> continue to do so. Will a support package help the rest of them with their 
> problems? And I don't know what kind of problems. We had a problem with 
> dropped fonts for awhile, but I found the Dov Isaacs email about PDF 
> settings and fixed mine, at least. 
>   




Anything new about when the next release of Framemaker will be launched?

2007-03-29 Thread William Gaffga
Adobe was at the WritersUA conference this week in Long Beach, CA.  
They were saying FM 8 is due this summer. They didn't have much to  
say except we will should be happy with what it has. It looks like  
they're trying to do some integration with FM, Captivate and Acrobat  
in a manner similar to CS.

They, as with several other vendors had a demo session on Tuesday  
after the seminars. I tried to find someone who attended but never  
had any luck - I was FAR more interested in what MadCap had to show .  
Perhaps someone on this list was there?

As for Blaze, I like it. After talking to Mike Hamilton (head of  
MadCap) I got a more clear sense of what Blaze is. MadCap sees a huge  
opportunity in the space between Word and FM. Basically, they see a  
lot of TWers who have maxed out on Word and see its shortcomings who  
would benefit from moving to something more like FM (TOC, cross ref,  
variables, conditions, etc..) They they see a lot of FM users who do  
not need everything in FM who want a new product with most of the  
features in FM without some of the esoteric stuff. It appears  
promising and I am certainly in that range of users they see.

I was going to keep this to myself but now, what the heck. On Monday  
I was talking to one of the FM guys in their booth, I don't recall  
for sure but I think it was RJ Jacquez. After getting an answer about  
something, DITA support I think, I jokingly said, "So, if I told you  
that we still have some Macs in our production and use FM on them  
everyday, I suppose I should just turn around and walk away?" He  
started talking about how FM runs quite nicely on Parallels and that  
Adobe has several systems set up that way and he uses Macs himself.  
Then he implied that there may be, at some point, a Mactel version of  
FM. I didn't believe that one bit and I wanted to say "Yeah, sure."  
In fact, I was taken aback that he was even talking about Parallels  
and couldn't stick with him in the conversation. I'd like to see that  
but really don't expect it.

Will.
--
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In Charge of All Things Documentation
Gibbs and Associates
Not Far Enough From L.A.

On Mar 20, 2007, at 4:51 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote:

> Have you heard anything yet?
>
> My Danish vendor told me (guessed) a couple of month ago that it  
> would be in March this year, but I don't trust this information  
> anylonger.
> I am VERY curious about the new features and a bit impatient. The  
> only rumour I have heard is that Framemaker will support Unicode.
>
> Maybe MadCap Software will be the first to launch their Blaze which  
> sounds very interesting, and probably will be a real competitor to  
> Framemaker.
>
> Regards,
>
> Verner Andersen
> Technical Writer



Adobe Support Package for FrameMaker

2007-03-29 Thread Gillian Flato
On the other hand, if you are the Frame guru in your department, it
makes you more valuable as a Tech Writer. If layoffs come and they have
to cut someone, the value you add may help save your job. 


-Gillian
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From: framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:59 AM
To: Rebecca.L.Frasure at aphis.usda.gov
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Adobe Support Package for Framemaker

Hi, Rebecca:

The most serious problem with becoming becoming known among your 
colleagues for your FrameMaker expertise, it makes you a key resource 
whose own productivity is reduced every time you are interrupted to 
provide support to a co-worker.

Even if you only support one other worker, support reduces your 
productivity; it obviously becomes worse with larger numbers of workers 
to support.

If your work situation permits it (some don't permit subscribing to 
resources like frameusers.com, and Adobe's user-to-user FrameMaker 
forums) it could be more effective to invest in training those who might

need support, to subscribe, read, search, post, and receive responses on

these resource lists. In other words, "teach them to fish, instead of 
catching the fish for them."

It would be expensive for each user have a support contract. If one or 
several users have support contracts with the expectation that they'd 
channel the support requests, then the original problem is only 
distributed among them - the skilled users reduce their productivity 
when supporting others.

Do the math first, build a model, then evaluate.

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Rebecca.L.Frasure at aphis.usda.gov wrote:
> Our IT dept has suggested we get an Adobe support package for problems

> with Framemaker. I personally always use this group instead and will 
> continue to do so. Will a support package help the rest of them with
their 
> problems? And I don't know what kind of problems. We had a problem
with 
> dropped fonts for awhile, but I found the Dov Isaacs email about PDF 
> settings and fixed mine, at least. 
>   

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Anything new about when the next release of Framemaker will be launched?

2007-03-29 Thread Bill Swallow
> As for Blaze, I like it. After talking to Mike Hamilton (head of
> MadCap)

Mike's actually the VP of Product Management, but I'm sure he
appreciates the virtual promotion! ;-)

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Anything new about when the next release of Framemaker will belaunched?

2007-03-29 Thread Dov Isaacs


> -Original Message-
> From: William Gaffga
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:41 AM
> To: Framers
> Subject: Re: Anything new about when the next release of 
> Framemaker will belaunched?
> ... After getting an answer about  
> something, DITA support I think, I jokingly said, "So, if I told you  
> that we still have some Macs in our production and use FM on them  
> everyday, I suppose I should just turn around and walk away?" He  
> started talking about how FM runs quite nicely on Parallels and that  
> Adobe has several systems set up that way and he uses Macs himself.  
> Then he implied that there may be, at some point, a Mactel 
> version of  
> FM. I didn't believe that one bit and I wanted to say "Yeah, sure."  
> In fact, I was taken aback that he was even talking about Parallels  
> and couldn't stick with him in the conversation. I'd like to 
> see that but really don't expect it.
> 
> Will.
> --


Don't expect the next major version of FrameMaker to have
any Macintosh support!

- Dov




Chapter Numbering Issue

2007-03-29 Thread Combs, Richard
Sam Beard wrote:

> For example, I have a book with several chapters in it. A 
> couple of these chapters were corrupted in some manner and 
> two of them showed this same numbering issue. I resolved it 
> in one, but I'm not quite sure how, so I don't know how to 
> resolve it in the other. Instead of the chapter and page 
> numbering continuing as it should from chapter file to 
> chapter file, the book shows only one page in the chapter, 
> even though there ARE several more pages. For example, 
> Chapter 8 is pages 309 to 316, Chapter
> 9 is 317 (with 42 pages actually in the file), and Chapter 10 is pages
> 318 to 337. A previous file did the same thing, but I don't 
> remember what I did to resolve it. I tried a number of things 
> and finally just stumbled upon the answer. But, nothing seems 
> to be working this time. 

I assume you've opened the chapter files in question and confirmed
they're OK and all the pages are there. 

1) In the book window, select all the files after the first chapter
(i.e., chapters 2 through whatever, plus appendices, index, and anything
else that has continued page numbered). 

2) Right-click the selection and click Numbering. 

3) In the Numbering Properties dialog, click the Page tab. 

4) On the Page tab, select Continue Numbering from Previous Page in
Book, and click Set. 

5) In the book window, click the Update/Generate button and update the
book and all generated lists.

HTH!
Richard


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deleting extra pages

2007-03-29 Thread Kelley West
Hello,
I am new FrameMaker and have ended up with an extra page on a five
page document. I have tried pagination where it asks to if I want to
delete extra pages and that doesn't seem to make a difference. It is
a single sided document.
Thanks for any advice.
Kelley





deleting extra pages

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Kelley,

Three things to check:

1) Make sure there are no empty paragraphs on the last page.
2) Make sure that a custom master page is not applied to the last page.
3) Make sure that there are no graphics on the last page.

If that doesn't work, zip and send me the file and I will tell you what the 
problem is. Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Hello,
> I am new FrameMaker and have ended up with an extra page on a five
> page document. I have tried pagination where it asks to if I want to
> delete extra pages and that doesn't seem to make a difference. It is
> a single sided document.
> Thanks for any advice.
> Kelley




deleting extra pages

2007-03-29 Thread Fred Ridder
1) Have you saved the file?  FrameMaker only deletes empty pages
at the end of a file when you do a Save.

2) Are you sure the page is really empty? Do you have the View>
Text Symbols option turned on? If not, turn it on and see where
the "silicet" character (the end-of-flow character that looks like
two intertwined S'es) is. If it's on page 6, there's your problem.

3) Is it possible that there is a graphic frame (even an empty one)
on page 6? Use Edit>Select All in Flow (Ctrl+A) to select everything
in the document an see if anything is selected on the last page.

4) Are you using one or more custom master pages? If so, is page
6 assigned to a custom page or is it a default page? If you have
assigned a custom master page, the page is no longer considered
empty because you've applied formatting.

5) Have you tried explicitly deleting the page (Special>Delete Pages)?





>From: Kelley West 
>To: 
>Subject: deleting extra pages
>Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:37:39 -0600
>
>Hello,
>I am new FrameMaker and have ended up with an extra page on a five
>page document. I have tried pagination where it asks to if I want to
>delete extra pages and that doesn't seem to make a difference. It is
>a single sided document.
>Thanks for any advice.
>Kelley
>
>
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converting Frame to Word

2007-03-29 Thread Brad Simmons
Yvonne asked:

"I was recently asked to convert our FrameMaker template into a MS Word 

template. Yes, I know this is backwards (and we all know the benefits of

Frame over Word)."

Yvonne, I was recently faced with the very same situation. Like you, I
understand that telling other departments "just to go out and purchase
Framemaker" may not be a workable option.

Thus, after trying several different workarounds, we hit upon one that
worked quite well: I first used FrameMaker to create a PDF. Then, I used
a program called "PDF to Word" which is manufactured by a company called
Very PDF. (http://www.verypdf.com/pdf2word/index.html).

This program took my PDF and created a Microsoft Word document much
smaller than my previous attempts. And at $39.95, this is a much cheaper
solution than telling others to buy another copy of FM!

(And no, I don't work for "Very PDF". I'm hyping their product free of
charge! :)

-Brad Simmons



deleting extra pages

2007-03-29 Thread Kelley West
Thanks guys!
I'm taking a class and there is so much to learn.
The special>delete page did the trick.
I didn't realize the option was there.
Kelley


On 3/29/07 1:59 PM, "Fred Ridder"  wrote:

> 1) Have you saved the file?  FrameMaker only deletes empty pages
> at the end of a file when you do a Save.
> 
> 2) Are you sure the page is really empty? Do you have the View>
> Text Symbols option turned on? If not, turn it on and see where
> the "silicet" character (the end-of-flow character that looks like
> two intertwined S'es) is. If it's on page 6, there's your problem.
> 
> 3) Is it possible that there is a graphic frame (even an empty one)
> on page 6? Use Edit>Select All in Flow (Ctrl+A) to select everything
> in the document an see if anything is selected on the last page.
> 
> 4) Are you using one or more custom master pages? If so, is page
> 6 assigned to a custom page or is it a default page? If you have
> assigned a custom master page, the page is no longer considered
> empty because you've applied formatting.
> 
> 5) Have you tried explicitly deleting the page (Special>Delete Pages)?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Kelley West 
>> To: 
>> Subject: deleting extra pages
>> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:37:39 -0600
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am new FrameMaker and have ended up with an extra page on a five
>> page document. I have tried pagination where it asks to if I want to
>> delete extra pages and that doesn't seem to make a difference. It is
>> a single sided document.
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Kelley
>> 
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Anything new about when the next release of Framemaker will belaunched?

2007-03-29 Thread William Gaffga
I don't. Like I said in my head at the show, "yeah, sure."

On Mar 29, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Dov Isaacs wrote:

>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: William Gaffga
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:41 AM
>> To: Framers
>> Subject: Re: Anything new about when the next release of
>> Framemaker will belaunched?
>> ... After getting an answer about
>> something, DITA support I think, I jokingly said, "So, if I told you
>> that we still have some Macs in our production and use FM on them
>> everyday, I suppose I should just turn around and walk away?" He
>> started talking about how FM runs quite nicely on Parallels and that
>> Adobe has several systems set up that way and he uses Macs himself.
>> Then he implied that there may be, at some point, a Mactel
>> version of
>> FM. I didn't believe that one bit and I wanted to say "Yeah, sure."
>> In fact, I was taken aback that he was even talking about Parallels
>> and couldn't stick with him in the conversation. I'd like to
>> see that but really don't expect it.
>>
>> Will.
>> --
>
>
> Don't expect the next major version of FrameMaker to have
> any Macintosh support!
>
>   - Dov




Anything new about when the next release of Framemaker will belaunched?

2007-03-29 Thread Chris Borokowski
I'm fairly excited by the thought of an updated and
newly more competitive Framemaker. With luck, Adobe
will leave the field strewn with the broken bodies of
Frame's competitors.

--- William Gaffga  wrote:

> I don't.

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Chapter Numbering Issue

2007-03-29 Thread Sam Beard
Fred and Richard,

   Thanks much for the help! I did update the book and that, apparently,
was what I had done on the previous chapter that was messed up. It
worked on the second chapter and all is right with my numbering once
again. 

Thanks much, again!

Samuel I. Beard, Jr.
Technical Writer
OI Analytical
979 690-1711 Ext. 222
sbeard at oico.com


-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:40 AM
To: Sam Beard
Subject: RE: Chapter Numbering Issue

Use the Update Book command, and all should be fine again. 

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Sam Beard
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:28 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Chapter Numbering Issue

Hello All,



   I'm using Frame 7.2b144 on Windows XP.



   We had some serious network issues starting sometime last Thursday or
so, continuing up until late last night/this morning. They seem to be
resolved for now, but we've had some strange issues come up since then.
For example, I have a book with several chapters in it. A couple of
these chapters were corrupted in some manner and two of them showed this
same numbering issue. I resolved it in one, but I'm not quite sure how,
so I don't know how to resolve it in the other. Instead of the chapter
and page numbering continuing as it should from chapter file to chapter
file, the book shows only one page in the chapter, even though there ARE
several more pages. For example, Chapter 8 is pages 309 to 316, Chapter
9 is 317 (with 42 pages actually in the file), and Chapter 10 is pages
318 to 337. A previous file did the same thing, but I don't remember
what I did to resolve it. I tried a number of things and finally just
stumbled upon the answer. But, nothing seems to be working this time. 



   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated it!



Samuel I. Beard, Jr.

Technical Writer

OI Analytical

979 690-1711 Ext. 222

sbeard at oico.com





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converting Frame to Word

2007-03-29 Thread Eason, David
Brad Simons wrote:



"Then, I used a program called "PDF to Word" which is manufactured by a
company called Very PDF. (http://www.verypdf.com/pdf2word/index.html)"



I tried that program one time, and it worked very well. However, it is
one-dimensional. My program of choice is PDF Converter. It not only
converts both ways, pdf to Word and Word, but to Excel also. And the
professional version is way more versatile. The Web site is
http://www.nuance.com/pdfconverter/standard/





Regards,



David Eason

LSI Logic

Contract Technical Writer

David.eason at lsi.com

Phone: 303-544-5433

Cell: 303-941-3512





-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+david.eason=lsi@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+david.eason=lsi.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brad Simmons
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 2:22 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Yvonne.Mills at jdsu.com
Subject: RE: converting Frame to Word 



Yvonne asked:



"I was recently asked to convert our FrameMaker template into a MS Word 



template. Yes, I know this is backwards (and we all know the benefits of



Frame over Word)."



Yvonne, I was recently faced with the very same situation. Like you, I

understand that telling other departments "just to go out and purchase

Framemaker" may not be a workable option.



Thus, after trying several different workarounds, we hit upon one that

worked quite well: I first used FrameMaker to create a PDF. Then, I used

a program called "PDF to Word" which is manufactured by a company called

Very PDF. (http://www.verypdf.com/pdf2word/index.html).



This program took my PDF and created a Microsoft Word document much

smaller than my previous attempts. And at $39.95, this is a much cheaper

solution than telling others to buy another copy of FM!



(And no, I don't work for "Very PDF". I'm hyping their product free of

charge! :)



-Brad Simmons

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Adobe Support Package for Framemaker

2007-03-29 Thread Diane Gaskill
Rebecca,

I agree with Rick.  I've been on this list since 1992 and have found the
expertise here to be more than sufficient for almost any question I've ever
posted.  The only reason that I can think of to buy an Adobe support package
is that it might be cheaper to upgrade if you have multiple users.  I'd
expect that you can get the costs on the Adobe web site and then do the
math.

Diane Gaskill
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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:51 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Rebecca.L.Frasure at aphis.usda.gov
Subject: Re: Adobe Support Package for Framemaker


Hi Rebecca,

Compared to the Adobe.com knowledge bases and the Framer lists, I doubt
whether Adobe technical support will add much value for you. In my opinion,
a support package would likely be a waste of money. Tell them you want a
couple of automation FrameScript scripts instead :-).

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

> Our IT dept has suggested we get an Adobe support package for problems
> with Framemaker. I personally always use this group instead and will
> continue to do so. Will a support package help the rest of them with their
> problems? And I don't know what kind of problems. We had a problem with
> dropped fonts for awhile, but I found the Dov Isaacs email about PDF
> settings and fixed mine, at least.